After 57 years of motorcycling (so far, that is) I have to state that my Suzuki GSXR1000 K6 was one of the best, most user friendly bikes I have ever owned. The only reason that I don’t have it now is because I do far more touring now than ever and, quite frankly, I can’t bend my 74 year old body around a sports bike anymore!

@xusiaxod6255

2 жыл бұрын

You're too old be driving anything on the road in my opinion.

@bryanduncan1640

2 жыл бұрын

@@xusiaxod6255 - how many miles on a bike have you ridden over the past three years? For me it’s 24,000. Not bad for someone who’s too old to drive!

@indigamer1889

2 жыл бұрын

@@xusiaxod6255 it's upto him to decide whether to ride or not

@seashackf1

Жыл бұрын

@@xusiaxod6255so if you live that long and are still able to drive you won’t? Everybody ages, careful what you wish for.

@xusiaxod6255

Жыл бұрын

@@seashackf1 I gave up my license at 70 for both bike and car and as an ADI, voluntarily. Otherwise as i got older, someone would end up dying.

I loved Ari and Zack's from Revzilla where a super old beat up Gixxer was faster on the track than the V4. Even with control tires

@Retr0_Blues

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe that's why this video doesn't show lap times , they're probably indistinguishable

@johnnygorena5318

3 жыл бұрын

Loved it also the euros are soo always looking down their noses at the Japanese bikes-

@chadvalliere8697

2 жыл бұрын

A 2005 GSX-R 1000 to be exact

@chadvalliere8697

2 жыл бұрын

A 2005 GSX-R 1000 to be exact

@user-360johnn

2 жыл бұрын

@@chadvalliere8697 with 55,000 miles

I love how Japanese built crazy motorcycles within the approach of many and with absolutely 0 compromises on quality and reliability. Problem with the European manufacturers are their products are pretty much suits and serve a niche market. I am a Ducati fanboy by heart but know for sure my money will be on a Japanese brand.

Both are amazing machines but at the end of the day I'll stick with the Suzuki not only for the overall cost but maintance expense also

@kris1976me

Жыл бұрын

yes but if you can afford the Ducati, the maintenance is not an issue...

I'm an R1 guy, but I've been eyeing that GSXR 1000R, for a bit...

Because people are easily manipulated by marketing. Yea, because it's "Ducati".

You could buy two gixxers with enough money left over to convert one to a dedicated track bike...and pay for some track days.

@JoshuaTootell

3 жыл бұрын

Not only COULD you do that. But also what you SHOULD do.

That Ducati looks sexy as hell, but I’ll stick with my 1000r.

Suzuki all the way, not dissing the Ducati, but GSXR is a hell of a bike for the Price.

@Lineage2ErtheiaPvP

3 жыл бұрын

no bike should be more then 10k tops. nothing. Especially not a suzuki.

@sbkarmen

3 жыл бұрын

In 2017 I raced a Superleggera and a factory kitted Suzuki gsxr1000 both bikes had its advantages but went faster with try Suzuki throughout the WERA season. Even had a chance to go heads up with Fabrice! Lol good guy, fast too! Tough part of racing those two different bikes was I had to run Pirelli tires and the Suzuki I ran Dunlop’s

@Audfile

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lineage2ErtheiaPvP crazy talk. No bike? Even with super high end components? Gtfo.

@sbkarmen

3 жыл бұрын

@@Audfile you’re smoking crack bud....

@nielskragelund

3 жыл бұрын

Its a hell of a bike.. regardless the price

It's seemingly become fashionable to rag on Suzuki's in the last few years and I thank you for not jumping on that wagon. I've owned a few and they've always been very good bikes. They build a very durable, user-friendly bike and I've always enjoyed all Zuks I've owned. Let's re-do this comparison with at least 50,000 miles on each bike. THEN compare costs. The delta will be WAY MORE than $22,000 when factoring in total cost of ownership.

@treskilion-9690

3 жыл бұрын

I am very curious as to why people hate on Suzuki's so much. They make such excellent bikes.

@Aberamentho2010

3 жыл бұрын

@@treskilion-9690 : I think people are talking about the Gixxxer Squid term. They apparently don't get that term is aimed at a stereotypical type of biker; not the bike itself. I'm amazed so many people don't understand that.

@treskilion-9690

3 жыл бұрын

@@Aberamentho2010 Yeah. I get poking fun at squids, but shaming the bike itself is a bit odd.

@TheCdubbleyoo

3 жыл бұрын

@@treskilion-9690 the brunt of the displeasure with Suzuki is that they haven't been releasing as much or as advanced items. Note the segmented LCD screen while others have moved to full-color, higher res (more expensive, harder to see in bright light at times) TFT dash, the relatively late addition of motion-based driver aids, late introduction of ride-by-wire and, therefore, electronic cruise control. Suzuki has elected to be very iterative - and that's nothing new. The tendency is to keep any new platform that proves successful for a long time. This has just been exacerbated with the downtown of the economy and industry in the 2000s. So, no, not bad bikes. But the riding press gets the newest and latest, and Suzukis simply aren't that. I'd like to see Suzuki get into more partnerships that would give it more engineering/design flexibility. I doubt most lay people realize how much smaller it is than the rest of the Big 4.

@reinhart482

3 жыл бұрын

@@treskilion-9690 because they are usually inexpensive, very accessible and therefore nothing to aspire for like an expensive European bike. Also gsxr seem to typically be kept in worse condition. I never see a ducati with spray paint and stickers or turned into a stunt bike and dropped without care.

Suzuki any day for me, only upgrade I would be Led blinkers and Akrapovič exhaust. Not to talk about reliability. When in 2 years parts will start to break on the Ducati, Suzuki would be like new, belive me I had 2 of them.

Ducati looks good and sounds good but you are sitting two red cylinder heads, like sitting on toaster. My choice would be definitely the Suzuki for practicality and reliability.

Great video I’m glad to see someone actually give kudos to Suzuki for a great bike they’ve built gsxr’s in general are very underrated and under appreciated motorcycles but yet give you a lot of bang for you 💵

Last time I checked Ducati hasn’t won a Moto America title… Last time I checked Suzuki just won MotoGP title.

The Gixxer will always be the people's Superbike, so this is great comparison.

@maximus9401

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the fireblade was the people's Superbike. Made more for the streets

@troypagan7131

3 жыл бұрын

The poor mans superbike

@troypagan7131

3 жыл бұрын

@YLKb24 You pay for “exclusivity”. When I walk up to a bike meet I don’t stop and say wow look at that GSXR. No. I walk up to the Ducati’s, Aprilia’s, MV Agusta’s, shoot even BMW’s.

There are people shitting all over the Suzuki yet plenty of folks out there would kill to get their hands on a brand new GSXR. It's all a matter perspective. When you work on the dealer side of things, you stop caring about one brand vs another, particularly the brands you sell. When I worked at a dealer that carried the Big 4 Japanese brands, customers were either already loyal to one brand or they looked to me for advice on which was the best, the fastest, the most badass. You have to find a diplomatic way to explain that even the even a Ninja 400/R3/CBR500/etc was above their skill level, so what matters most is which one you like the look/fit/feel the most.

My favorite thing to do on track is to eat Ducati v4 bikes for lunch on my 2017 gsxr1000r. That said mine has had about 6k in upgrades brakes, suspension, tune/exhaust and other little things. Slicks also make a big difference.

The law of diminishing returns exemplified.

@TroySiahaan

3 жыл бұрын

Bingo.

@deronthomas1566

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

I would pick a gsxr over anything i like simplicity

@aluisious

3 жыл бұрын

My Multistrada is starting to have problems at 30k so I'm going to agree.

@aliwaleed5288

3 жыл бұрын

aluisious suzuki is really relieble

@expatbiker6598

3 жыл бұрын

Because you're broke. Rich don't care about reliability.

@aliwaleed5288

3 жыл бұрын

Expat Biker damn that's right i never thought of that

@aliwaleed5288

3 жыл бұрын

Expat Biker but money aside i like suzuki more for some reason i feel like they kinda old with their line up of bikes i like simple kinda old school stuff

I can't even afford the GSXR, so yeah

@AniketSen

3 жыл бұрын

same here...

@brandonpittman5243

3 жыл бұрын

Buy used and keep looking you deserve it.

@brandonpittman5243

3 жыл бұрын

I bought a 1300 in 07 for 9k new I still have it I don't have a newer one because they are 14 to 19k my 07 rides just fine

@AniketSen

3 жыл бұрын

@@brandonpittman5243 you lucky bastard

@Death666wish

3 жыл бұрын

A bike is a bike.

More than enough power, simplicity, good after sale support, cheaper maintenance, looks, customization options and HALF THE PRICE. Suzuki over Ducati without a doubt.

Oh no... Suzuki boys are about to become even more emboldened after the V4S vs K5 debacle at Revzilla..

@HudsonMoto

3 жыл бұрын

Hyping up the Gixxer boys... Pretty soon they will claim their Gixxer 600rr is faster then Ducati V4S haha

@aluisious

3 жыл бұрын

@@HudsonMoto at any random track day a lot of them will be. 40k bikes tend to attract guys with more money than time who can't ride well.

@lirikos51

3 жыл бұрын

The most fake comparison i ever seen.!!!!!

@aluisious

3 жыл бұрын

The difference in the reviews here ("it's a scalpel and the Suzuki is a butterknife!") is that Motorcycle.com is full of advertising for motorcycle brands and Revzilla is not because they're already selling to you. I'm going to hazard a guess that Ducati does bigger ad buys than Suzuki.

@lazarohernandez7269

3 жыл бұрын

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Just imagine throwing that 22 grand on Yoshimura jewelry ❤

@shizi

3 жыл бұрын

Same thoughts 😅 Plus sets of gears

Could have gone with the standard Gixxer instead of the R model and dropped that price even further. Suzuki is certainly adept at hitting the bang for buck mark before you start getting rapidly diminishing returns.

@pravesh736

3 жыл бұрын

No. No sense

No denying the Suzuki and all other top manufacturers bikes out there are exceptional but its worth is relative. The V4R is the basis of a race bike. Want a cheap one, buy the V4 or the V4S. The R comes with titanium engine components and all manner of goodies that make it excel on track. Ive got a few bikes and I pick the V4R for the track everytime as it is exceptional. Worth every penny. Im not loyal to any one brand at all. I get what I like and enjoy them for what they are. I do have to say that the GSXR are a very underated bike.

@kevb8544

2 жыл бұрын

Good point on the Ti components, the R is expensive for a reason and top of the 🌳.

I drove the Ducati for two days, and what he says about the heat is absolutely correct: my motorcycle shoes had signs of melting on synthetic parts and I had red bruises on the inside of my legs for 3 days because of the heat!!!!

@JanBanJoovi-ol1qv

11 ай бұрын

It’s hotter when they just have v-twins. The v-twins are so overworked, you will feel vibrations and gets uncomfortably hot very soon. Perhaps that’s why they switched to V4, but then they the same issues haven’t been fixed significantly yet.

I have an '18 GSX-R1000R, and it's the best bike I've ever ridden at any price. That said, I think it's disingenuous to say that the electronics are the same, or even close. They aren't. The electronics package, on the track, is where the Suzuki falls short. It's certainly not a limiting factor to my meager skills, but I have experienced ABS engagement when I didn't want it. And you can't disable the ABS through the electronics interface. And after installing steel braided lines (rubber lines were standard in '18), a Brembo M/C from a Yamaha R1, and pads that suit my preferences, it stops as well as anything else I've ridden. Do I think it's as good as the Ducati? I haven't ridden one, but if it were better, it wouldn't break my heart. $22k is a massive difference.

I would have loved to see the lap times. I bet they were on par.

@normanparthiban4383

3 жыл бұрын

Watch the revzilla on this. Except they used a 2005 gsxr. Made Ducati look like idiots. But hey if I was the ceo of Ducati and people wanted to pay that much I wouldn’t stop them

@danlford

3 жыл бұрын

@Yirlani dave was not a race bike. Engine was totally stock. Had ohlinnes shock and fork rebuilt. Look up zack courts daily ride with Dave. It lists all the mods in the description. Most of them were just parts that need to be replaced on a 16 year old bike.

@BTrain-is8ch

3 жыл бұрын

​@@danlford That GSX-R's mod list reads like what a skilled track day rider/club racer would do to prepare a stock motorcycle. Add some bodywork, safety wire the important bits, and Dave is ready to go to work, competitively, in club racing. Can't overstate how big of a deal the suspension upgrades are in the hands of a quality track rider/club racer. You're literally talking about seconds on those two items alone. It would have been a more interesting comparison had they gone to the Suzuki dealer, bought OEM parts for their refresh, and ran it as the bike would have rolled off the showroom in 2005. A stock bike from 2005 beating a stock bike from 2020 would have been surprising. A stock bike from 2020 losing to a club racer class machine isn't surprising.

@danlford

3 жыл бұрын

@@BTrain-is8ch still doesn't bode well that you would have to spend 30k on the duc then sink another 5k into it just to beat a 16 year old gsxr with 55k on the odometer when it quit working. I would venture a guess that the ducs stock suspension is as good if not better than Dave's.

@BTrain-is8ch

3 жыл бұрын

@@danlford Bode well for what? 1000cc bikes are well into diminishing returns on performance. A factory WSBK costs 5-10x what the homologation bike it is based on costs and is only a couple seconds faster around a track. A GP bike is 20-30x more expensive than that factory WSBK bike and only a couple more seconds faster around a track. We're on the end of the performance curve where price tags start getting really big really fast. As for the suspension. The Ducati's shock is fine. The Ducati's fork needs attention out of the crate. Keep in mind that all of this depends on rider ability. A rider that's fifteen seconds off lap record pace isn't going to notice any of this or care. A rider that's within five seconds of lap record pace is going to notice in the first hard braking zone of a lap. A lot of these journalists are competent club racers (read: faster than 97% of their readers) In any case I don't think anyone is buying these things because they represent value for money. Superbikes are toys at best. Riding one on a public road is ridiculous and unless you have thousands of dollars worth of track day/racing/consumables budget each year you can't actually enjoy one.

Suzuki for me too...thanks Troy S! Sylvian Guintoli with a S1000RR does an amazing job with an Akro exhaust system, new Ohlins shocks and a flash to rip up track days in the UK against BSB riders and everyday riders for a lot less than the Ducati. (SG is part of the Suzuki development team & former WSKB & BSB champ) I had a 959 Ducati and my nuggets were frying and that is why I moved it on to another bike.

The gsxr makes so much power early and all through the Rev range. What a special motor. It's got that wonderful Suzuki growl. I don't know if it's the VVT or gearing but it's a torque monster

@christopheralonge7758

2 жыл бұрын

45 tooth stock rear sprocket does help Suzuki and always has. Even back in 2005

Of course it's worth it. It's 11 grand per wing.

@LS-oh8kv

3 жыл бұрын

The wings actually make a difference at high speed though, but make fun of their looks all you want. Something like 85 pounds of downforce at 168mph, and even more when going faster

@nielskragelund

3 жыл бұрын

@@LS-oh8kv yes but its outwards downforce when you are cornering...that why you dont have spoilers on motorcycles...

GSXR has been king since 2017 lets be honest!

@peterpedersen5668

3 жыл бұрын

Since K5

@drewmorg.

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterpedersen5668 truth

@SystemAdministrator1

3 жыл бұрын

Since 2005 best street engine ever made

@johnnygorena5318

3 жыл бұрын

@@SystemAdministrator1 i agree

@johnnygorena5318

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterpedersen5668 👍

Ducati are awesome but they have always been nut roasters and always will be! If you can handle the insane heat roasting you balls and legs you will love them, they ride great.

@cgrf45

3 жыл бұрын

I rode a 2020 Ducati V2 a few weeks ago. Hated it. It was a cool late afternoon and I was hot. This thing will roast your balls. It wasn't smooth at all and found it uncomfortable. I ride a Triumph Street Triple. So they are very different animals. But I expected more from the Ducati.

@aluisious

3 жыл бұрын

The superbikes maybe, but some of the other bikes are fine. I rode my Multi to Vegas in July and as far as I know my parts still function.

@justanotherhuman5293

3 жыл бұрын

aluisious yeah I meant the sportbikes :)

@ausingtv

3 жыл бұрын

They only cook your balls if you ride slow

@kugangles9860

3 жыл бұрын

@@ausingtv My ZX14r still cooked my legs going 90+ on hot summer days.

Keeping in mind, Suzuki won MotoGP last year with a standard inline 4 engine. All the hype and getting your butt cooked by a v layout bike may not be necessary. THe suzuki is just the better buy.

@bonyclifton181

2 жыл бұрын

They did win but the engine is anything but standard.

@h2o628

2 жыл бұрын

its a crossplane engine though

@ralphwarom2514

2 жыл бұрын

@@h2o628 Yup. I was pretty wrong. lol.

@lupreztryson

2 жыл бұрын

Ducati still fastest in motogp though

Lmao the 05 gsxr beats the v4r 🤣🤣 this review is so biased to the cost of the bike

@racerguy3972

3 жыл бұрын

ehheheheh

@enriquesepulveda1402

2 жыл бұрын

So true

The lack of heat mgmt at $40k is rediculous. You would hope Audi would address this. For track focused bike, my guess is you could buy many others preowned and put a little money to make something really good.

@andreipulosul1492

3 жыл бұрын

Also lack of fuel gauge...which suzuki has,even fuel used and how much is left

@ampm9771

3 жыл бұрын

Firstly Audi has fuck all to do with Ducati. Secondly, V4R is built for racing, not rev bombing and harassing the elderly.

@MattieXMoto

3 жыл бұрын

@@ampm9771 Audi owns ducati

@ampm9771

3 жыл бұрын

And? what more does Audi have to so with Ducati?

@MattieXMoto

3 жыл бұрын

@@ampm9771 look at the impact on lambo tech from audi. You are obviously ruffled by the notion of audi owning ducati. Take a read. www.reuters.com/article/us-audi-ducati-m-a/audi-ceo-drops-plan-to-sell-motorcycle-brand-ducati-idUSKBN1E60UL

Suzuki have always made fantastic engines

GSXR cannot be broken so quickly, I speak from experience, thank you 👍 # 156 👍

@ZX8X

3 жыл бұрын

You broke V4R Ljubo?

@ljuborajictt

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately many new ones have electronics problems.

@haziqariffin9866

3 жыл бұрын

Even k5 still have good condition and good sharp handling, something special thing that have in japanese machine, the reliable of engine

@ZX8X

3 жыл бұрын

@@haziqariffin9866 who told you that V4R dont have reliable engine, where are we, in '90?

@ljuborajictt

3 жыл бұрын

👍

Great comparison! I absolutely love the Ducati but I’d buy 2 great motorcycles instead of the V4R!

@silverrambo1508

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, or Great motorcycle and great car. Comparison is pointless. It's like compare Porshe with Ford RS

@King_droid4908

3 жыл бұрын

You can buy street fighter v4s and you will have fun in those bikes then a v4r with is basically made for the pro riders

Great video Troy!

*laughs in zack and ari comparison video*

@TroySiahaan

3 жыл бұрын

I did mention those two, but that footage got left on the cutting room floor. :)

Buy the GSXR, get it flashed, and ENJOY 😄👍

Good stuff, I hope to see more videos like this.

good comparison! always used to wonder this question myself! great video!

It's like comparing an IKEA to a mies van der rohe chair. You know some people appreciate the design and the way they are built even though on paper they are both chair.

@car.gems.

3 жыл бұрын

being the ducati the ikea chair right?

@franco_0347

3 жыл бұрын

@@car.gems. So you think Suzuki is a premium brand 😂 Everyone can afford a Suzuki but the fewest can afford a Ducati. Belive it or not that is what makes the difference between average and outstanding bike.

@car.gems.

3 жыл бұрын

@@franco_0347 only thing the ducati is premium is the price and design. For the price it should perform a lot better and be a lot more reliable. I don't know about you, but I'm not expecting to buy a van der Rohe chair and having it breaking.

@franco_0347

3 жыл бұрын

@J C Actually yes for example a Lambo costs twice as much as a Porsche. The performance and the interieur qualtiy is nearly the same. However the Lambo is more exclusive and rare. Now think about the bikes Ducati doesn't build bikes like that so everyone can afford them and drive them daily around...

@JunixKuizon

3 жыл бұрын

You are moron! Ducati is like a Harley, its a rubbish product backed by very good marketing.

Suzuki been getting podiums lately in moto gp. Gixxer fan for life!

great job very informative

just commenced viewing but I am pretty sure its because one is produced in the hundreds while the other is in the tens if not hundreds of thousands. Great comparo Guys :)

Great video sir funny that you did this because I have both of those bikes mine’s a 21 V4s and I truly like my Suzuki better around town as far and the comfort and it makes more usable power the Ducati just looks better it’s kind of like riding satins horse with all that heat that it produces 😄 just subscribed keep up the great work sir🙌

Italian Design with Japanese reliability.....Dream combo

I have owned 3 GSXR's..the first year 86' 1100 and 2 1000's and still love them..ultimately both of these and all the other bikes are all so fast nowadays its really who has the biggest set of balls that will take the bike(s) to their limits.

Most people even with the money, will not be at the riding level of that Ducati. That bike is to show your economic status.

@beobe99

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, but most aren't near the level of the GSXR either. Hell, most "liter" bikes are now well beyond what most of us can handle, even some pros agree the assistance these bikes have is needed as VERY few can go all out on them w/o slipping up.

@jamsxr

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly this, pure status symbol. That’s the world we live in.

@Jahmed163

3 жыл бұрын

That is the fact.. very well said. I have owned both Honda & Ducati and only big difference i found is extra attention Ducati gets.

@NBSV1

3 жыл бұрын

Not entirely. The electronics and extra stuff on the Ducati really helps someone that’s not as good a rider more than a high level pro rider. While still a large challenge it would be easier to be consistently fast on something like that over an older bike or something else that had less stuff.

@bradoneill9966

3 жыл бұрын

I have to disagree with the comments that the Ducati is just to show status, I own a v4s and I couldn’t give a damn about status. The bike flat out is superior in terms of handling and finesse to other liter bikes. You have to ride both to understand but as noted in the video the Ducati is precise in its handling. It’s so drastic that it taken me a bit to even get used to. When I get back on my Yamaha I feel like it’s a massive effort to put it where I want. I am easily 15mph faster through canyon curves on the v4 compared to my Yamaha that has a major suspension overhaul. Part of the precision is likely due to the light forged wheels compared to the cast ones on my other bike as well as a full ohlins setup. Again though, is it worth an extra 22k worth is all in the eye of beholder. If I had to repurchase it again I would, I just wish I could had got it in black lol In full disclosure I know there are Ducatista douche bags abound that can’t ride and have it for the “status”.

Where are the lap times?

These bikes used to be 11k and they still weren't any slower than they are now.

@testaccount4191

3 жыл бұрын

can get them for £3k used, given they are so reliable its a pretty safe buy.

I love how the italians claim 221hp with stock exhaust but get 186 to the rear wheel while the germans claim 205hp for the bimmer and get 196 to the rear wheel lol. Those italian dynos are very generous!

@markjones464

3 жыл бұрын

The DUCATI is 221 Hp at Crank , and Your Right I not sure if the figure are Right from certain company , DUCATI ? B.M.W German being German a fact is A fact should we say accurate , correct

little bird told me the Gixxer's faster, hmmmm.

@johnny_123b

3 жыл бұрын

I trust Ari

@Joric78

3 жыл бұрын

...but it's not the legendary K5.

@snupermoto723

3 жыл бұрын

@@Joric78 Correct. edit - little bird told me the 15 year old Gixxer's fster.

@Joric78

3 жыл бұрын

@@snupermoto723 ...and to be fair that wasn't the V4R, so if their hypothesis about the suspension was accurate it might not apply to this manual Ohlins setup.

@stevegriffith7236

3 жыл бұрын

Come on dude, they're not that hot. Especially when your moving. The heat kit that's available will help.

Could you say “Delta” more? I own both and you should take the Gsxr-R, put a pipe, filter on it and send the cpu for a flash to Moore Mafia and if you want to, add some wheels. Golden.

By the end of the day, buy the bike that makes you happy.

@TanmayChhatbar

3 жыл бұрын

So... All of 'em?

@karlo134652

3 жыл бұрын

@@TanmayChhatbar if you can buy all of them why not?

@abhikdas8464

3 жыл бұрын

konichiwa

Track times ?

Those gsxr’s respond really well to a system and mapping. I’ve seen over 15 more bhp in the mid range alone. I think you guys in the states are limited more from stock than ours in the U.K. as well so you’ll probably see even more

@viktorskarlatov8227

2 жыл бұрын

I almost found neutral a few minutes ago. It was dang close but the stoplight turned green :D

All this delta talk and you can’t even quantify it by providing us a few lap times to really see what the $22k delta gets you.

@TheCdubbleyoo

3 жыл бұрын

Read the story at motorcycle.com. He explains that.

@marcosuarez6626

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely the Ducati is faster no questions is a monster, but like I said in my comment I rather have the Gixxer because of the reliability

@dancarlos1216

3 жыл бұрын

the times are probably very very similar, its more about the feel. personally i ride a GSXR600 because i hate the low rpm torque most 1000s have, im pretty aggressive on the throttle.

Plenty of money left to tune and mod the heck out of the Suzuki.

Add a full system, ecu flash, and and some bst wheels. The price of the 1000r would still be way under the v4r and I think the 1000r would be just as precise as the Ducati make more power and still leave 15k ish in your pocket. But I do have to say the Ducati is beautiful and sounds awesome.

Suzuki rules! That bike will never break. The Duke is a ticking time bomb though..

As the owner of one, I still admire the other.

Gixxer, flash, full system, carbon parts, grippy rear sets, levers.... Kreiga,, all set...

@bloodysinner9456

3 жыл бұрын

But it will still be a GSXR. Nothing more.

@haroldscott9525

3 жыл бұрын

@@bloodysinner9456 yeah but some people care more about riding than posing and don't need the more "special" bike

@MikBan

3 жыл бұрын

@@bloodysinner9456 That's the beauty of it, it will still be faster than most bikes to reach the road legal speeds..

@zackrides265

3 жыл бұрын

@@bloodysinner9456 yep. That's the best part!

@Fedvec01

3 жыл бұрын

@@haroldscott9525 ducati for posing? guess which riders are actually challenging Jonathan Rea in SBK. Suzuki riders? oh no Suzuki doesn't even have a SBK team. The answer is Ducati riders. Despite them not being as good as Rea they have the best bike (guess what bike... yes a POSING v4r) in the championship and are able to compete. Gixxers here in the comments can't even afford the carbon fiber parts of the Ducati lol

For the price difference between the two you can upgrade the gsxr even more and still have some change left over

I own both...actually, I have a 2019 Panigale V4 S. I bought a 2020 Gixxer 1000 R because it was on sale for $2K off, and included a slip on Yosh. If I had to choose one to ride daily, it would be the Gixxer. For status and fun (while roasting your balls off) I'll ride the Ducati. It's the best of both worlds for sure. I feel in the long run, the Gixxer will last longer and be less expensive to maintain.

Because of character .. things like breaking down a lot, needing to mortgage your house everytime you need a service, burning your legs while your riding it’s all character that cost money 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 there a joke that falls apart

@MountainMetal

3 жыл бұрын

BS. Ignorant post.

@stronggeek1

3 жыл бұрын

@@MountainMetal Not ignorant at all, just a little exaggerated. Ducati sport bikes are much less reliable than Japanese super sports. That's not an arguable fact. They're also much more expensive to buy, maintain, and repair when things inevitably go wrong. Also not an arguable fact. And they run extremely hot, if you've ever ridden one you'd know that. Ducati makes amazing motorcycles but these things are simply undeniable 🤷🏾‍♂️

@MountainMetal

3 жыл бұрын

@@stronggeek1 You've never owned any Ducatis. I have. You sound ridiculous.

@stronggeek1

3 жыл бұрын

@@MountainMetal Firstly, don't presume to know what I've owned and what I haven't owned, you don't know me. And while you're actually correct in assuming that I haven't owned a Ducati, one of the guys I ride with most frequently has a 2016 Panigale 959 that I've ridden many times. And every single time it has cooked the hell out of my thighs. Also, it doesn't take owning a vehicle to know which ones are more or less reliable than others. That's a stupid notion. Research, word of mouth, and testimonials will tell you everything I've said is true. You're clearly uneducated or Ducati biased if you disagree with any of the well-known facts me or the op stated. I'm not hating on Ducati at all, I quite like them and might look into buying one someday, but these are just facts buddy. Educate yourself.

@MountainMetal

3 жыл бұрын

@@stronggeek1 You are obsessed.

*This guys low-key roasted Ducati 😂😂*

That intro was straight up fire Keep it up guys

Great content and title.

Lets say you had 40,000 dollars and you had to spend all of it on one of the bikes, would you rather build an insane gsxr or have the ducati instead.

@rahul-bx1xo

3 жыл бұрын

👍

@KimmyR3

3 жыл бұрын

even after you put a pair of ohlins and brembo kits on the gixxer, i think it wont even be close to 40k. so i'd take the gixxer, set it up nicely, and have a nice meal with the change. :)

@bloodysinner9456

3 жыл бұрын

Ducati.

@haroldscott9525

3 жыл бұрын

Can I build the GSX-R with ~$7k of parts and then save $15k for tires, maintenance and crash damage/spares? If so I'll take it over the Ducati.

@rosskrause3926

2 жыл бұрын

Suzuki all day everyday !

Panigale V4 is sexier, faster, enthusiastic machine.. But GSXR is more about friendly sophisticated machine.. Long ride , short ride, city ride, track ride.. Suzuki machine will be more friendly.. From a begineer to expert, GSRX is much worthy.

This is a proper street review unlike so many reviewers who treat their “street reviews” as if they’re slow inconvenient tracks that they have to ride to get to their fast tracks.

Anyone know what jacket that is?

Marketing 101: "Sure, the Ducati is very expensive. But...YOU're worth it!"

i just want to see more motorcycles with turbos and superchargers ! not ready to switch to electric yet

@viktorskarlatov8227

2 жыл бұрын

Can't go wrong with the 600 hp busa.

@Nekminute

2 жыл бұрын

@@viktorskarlatov8227 TTS performance from UK sells supercharger kits for all kinds of bikes new and old that give up to 200+ HP for around 2500 eur

Thanks for sharing

Great video Troy! Yep Suzuki

I don't understand the obsession with the V4s and the V4R when the base model V4 is just as good. you have the same engine spec's and is just a little over 20 g and you still get more compared to the Japanese bike's no offense.

@MrBozoleclown38

3 жыл бұрын

Sergio, be serious. You can't have an Italian name and ignore the HUGE differences between the V4 or V4S and the V4R engine...

@sergiosoto9224

3 жыл бұрын

Look I do have a base model v4, you just pushing ducati dealers narrative it may be a different but is not huge greetings

@MrBozoleclown38

3 жыл бұрын

@@sergiosoto9224 To be honest I have a V4R but only because I have another bike for my daily use. If to have only one, it would have been an S and its better torque. I have never tried another Panigale V4 but the R so I'm unable to really point the differences except that the R is a freaking barbecue, even if the Akrapovic full line allows the engine to have a better cooling. It worth any calories burning my legs.

Is that exhaust canister on Suzuki for real? 😯 Dammmmmm, it is hideous!!

@moorepower13

3 жыл бұрын

5 min its off and you've added usually 5hp. How long does it take to untangle the Ducati s plumbing?

@davidxu916

3 жыл бұрын

There's a lot of sound deadening in that huge can. That's why a slip on improves the sound hugely with the Suzuki. Again, saving money! A full Akra system for the Ducati is a price of a new bike. 😱

@cnealmartin

3 жыл бұрын

Exhaust prices for the Duc are so insane stupid plus the install cost... you can honestly buy a used Gixxer

@rosskrause3926

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidxu916 I don't know if they still make Yoshimura headers but they sounded amazing on Suzukis of years past..even the older GS model Suzukis.

So what was the lap times?

Ducatti have some fucking balls to sell motorcycles at this price, when his technology is not enough to give them moto gp championships

I bought my v4 base used with only 2800 miles on it for 17k flat. I'd take that any day over a brand new gsxr

Having owned a V4R, and have test driven a GSXR 1000RR, I'd be perfectly happy with the GSXR , especially since most of my riding is street.

Awesome comparison.

can you guys please do another full 2020/2021 street bike shootout!? haven't had a good one in years. do all the 6's and all the liter bikes like you used to do. track and streets PLEASEEEEE I love those videos

Agree!👍👍 but Ducati is much beautiful and top quality as components . At the end Ducati is a much smaller Company. Cost production is Higher for Ducati to have a Unique product. And the value is kept high a second hand. Suzuki value as second hand is Zero like all the Japan bikes

There is a spider on the Ducati did anyone else saw it ?

@rahul-bx1xo

3 жыл бұрын

Haha ha ha which time?

Was the suzuki's suspension professionally dialed in?

@TroySiahaan

3 жыл бұрын

It was the standard suspension, right as it comes off the showroom floor. Didn't really have much to complain about, but we did add a little preload on both ends and make a click or two change with both compression and rebound on both ends. Very minor things.

I’ll stick with my’09 R1. The Suzuki would be a great pick though.

SUZUKI POWER.. just have to coax it out of the restrictions.. SUZUKI all the way..

Law of demising return. The % of increased performance based on the amount of money... I have to pass.

What about the V2? I have seen a few folks trade in their bikes for a V2 and never turned back. Now two of them are from gsxr and yamaha r1. I was looking into getting a V2 my self. Opinions?

@TroySiahaan

3 жыл бұрын

I compared a V2 against the CBR100RR about six months ago. It's on the channel. Basically, you notice the smaller engine pretty quickly.

My two favorite bikes are on quite the opposite side of price range.

Because every single part is double the quality

@karunnagraj8249

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! I can't speak for the gsxr but I've seen the quality of a hayabusa and it's just pathetic, there are bikes in the 300cc range that have better quality

Brilliant video. We tend to forget how amazing the Japanese bikes are. Value for money is key here.

@TroySiahaan

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Which would be better for a first bike ?

Lol crazy difference of opinions on these 2 bikes from different publications and sites