"Dogs notorious have a hard time operating... these are also called dogs..." I knew that was coming, and it still caught me by surprise. Well done! :)

This is one more example of this channel giving me information that I didn't even realize I wanted to know, but did. And also, as soon as that doggie door was opened, I knew Ryan had to crawl through it. It just had to happen.

@ferventheat

Жыл бұрын

That door is one curator wide ☺️

@gorillaau

Жыл бұрын

It may have been one of those things, okay we will try filming it bit edit it out if it looks silly or awkward.

@ZGryphon

Жыл бұрын

"Oh bugger, the Victory ship is on fire."

Every merchant ship I worked on (20yrs ago now) had some interior doors that had a section that was lightly held in place so it could be kicked/bashed/removed in a pinch. It was usually spaces that only had one way in/out like staterooms. Had to use it once to get into a stateroom when a crew member suffered a medical emergency in their room and the door was locked!

@alexeypose4150

Жыл бұрын

Came down here to say this. Still true today, and like you, the only time I've ever seen it used was to break into a stateroom for a medical situation.

@notsoberoveranalyzer8264

Жыл бұрын

Question for both you guys: During the medical situation, was it pretty instinctual to bash through? Or were there a few seconds trying the door and thinking how to get through? Probably a pretty dumb question. I just have no idea if you’d go through some sort of practice/training exercise per new ship, similar to life raft exercises.

I heard about the torpedo thing. British merchant seamen would go to sea with coconut fiber mats which they would drape over the cabin doorstep before going to bed so they wouldn't be trapped if the ship was hit. The strange thing is, many of them continued to do this long after the war was over. I spoke to a guy who was a kid on board a ship in the 1950s. He couldn't understand what was going on with the old guys and their coconut mats. (They only talked about it when they got drunk, and he found out later when he was old enough to drink with them.)

This triggered a memory... from the WW 2 movie Mr Roberts. Officers stateroom doors had "kick out panel" stencilled on them.

Interesting. I honestly didn't expect that to be reason, but it makes perfect sense. The door frame can bend, and lock the door shut, but that wouldn't happen to the smaller hatch, which is not part of the structure. In architecture there's similar things like that where you isolate certain features for similar reasons, but for earthquakes. Neat stuff.

If you get a chance to watch "Mister Roberts"' the non-watertight doors in the officers staterooms have these kick-out panels on the bottom.

@cburgess5294

Жыл бұрын

And is also a fantastic movie 😊

The "doggie doors" and "kick out" panels were located low because smoke rises and sailors would be crawling anyway.

@Minecraftian2345432

Жыл бұрын

Also, it's easier to crawl through something low rather than try to jump through something located at chest height and fall onto the ground on the other side.

@Hephera

Жыл бұрын

their position has nothing to do with smoke. that might be a coincidental benefit but how on earth would you kick out a "kick-out" panel much less climb through it unless it was located low? its not called a "headbutt-out panel"

@GremlinSciences

Жыл бұрын

The bigger question would be why make them so small, but the answer to that much the same, it keeps sailors from needing to stand up into the smoke to unfasten dogs on the top of the door, and minimizes how much smoke would follow the sailers through.

@Hephera

Жыл бұрын

​@@GremlinSciences if they were larger the door would lose rigidity and could warp along with the doorframe and jam the doggie door. which is the entire problem the doggie door is there to solve. and the larger the doggie door is the further it has to swing in order to open, making it more likely to be blocked by something in the way. they dont need to be any bigger than they are because theyre already large enough for a person to fit through easily.

@GremlinSciences

Жыл бұрын

@@Hephera It's not actually an issue of bulkhead integrity. There's plenty of space available for them to thicken and reinforce the door panels before they start hitting the flange during operation, so they could easily reinforce the doors to make the emergency hatch wider, and making the hatch taller wouldn't need much of any reinforcement until they almost double its height. No, the bigger issues are with safety and survivability. Making the hatch larger means more airflow while hatch is open, not only feeding the flames more but also letting more smoke through into the rest of the ship and increasing the chance that embers make it through to spread the fire into other compartments. In the event of flooding the issue is even worse, the larger hatch means more weight that needs to be lifted to reseal the bulkhead and the larger the volume of water that can pass through if the hatch remains open.

Now I understand the labels stenciled on the officers’ stateroom door in the move “Mr. Roberts”! Thank you!

"These are also called..." Is Ryan going to say "dogs?" YES! steve

@davidwillmore

Жыл бұрын

My favorite moment as well.

@cburgess5294

Жыл бұрын

I saw it coming and actually started laughing when he realized how he had trapped himself in that sentence.

@terminalblue

Жыл бұрын

That was such an easy layup for an actual joke that I'm a little worried. Ryan, you okay buddy?

@dickJohnsonpeter

Жыл бұрын

Why do people write their name at the bottom of a comment? Its isn't a letter, it's strange. First, I don't know why anyone is using their real name unless they are a public figure or aspiring to be or want every stranger in the world to know who they are and be able to find out everything about them. Second, Why is a comment being signed like a formal email or letter?

@RustOnWheels

Жыл бұрын

@@dickJohnsonpeterno clue. Rusty

Gave me a smile to see the restroom sign at the same level as the “doggy” door in door

@matthewalker

Жыл бұрын

Someone might need to use the restroom in an emergency!

Good for you, Ryan, for never fearing to demonstrate what you are talking about. 😉

on modern merchant ships, we don't have those on the exteriour doors anymore, but we do have them on the interiour doors. usually disguised as ventilation grills for the circulation of the AC air. but they can be popped out to be used as emergency escape hatch to get out of your cabin incase the door is jammed or blocked or what ever.

Merchant ship: Survivability Naval ship: Survivability > Cargo capacity _(more WT bulkheads)_

Snafu is a fantastic name for a dog. I'm actually looking for a new dog, I may need to keep that in mind

@Backroad_Junkie

Жыл бұрын

I wonder how many dogs in the armed services were named Snafu or Fubar. I'll bet it's quite high, lol...

@cmelton6796

Жыл бұрын

Situation Normal, All Fetched Up

I like how the restroom sign's pointing right at the doggie door. Just pop it open and deliver your business! 🤣👍

The moment I saw that door open, I knew Ryan had to crawl through it. Curator habits?!

Interesting! I will be visiting the New Jersey soon and will definitely be making a donation.

Mann !!! Its just hard to fathom, the hard times in the past ! God bless you

I really appreciate all you and everyone else do on this channel. While I'm too far away from Battleship New Jersey to stop by at the moment, some of your videos were interesting enough to my wife that we both went up to Battleship Cove to see the ships there.

funny i just watched Mr. Roberts, and his door had a kick panel labeled.

More than one sailor has died, though, because he had to be locked into a quickly flooding compartment on a warship in extremis. Escape, though obviously desirable, can be rendered impossible if it jeopardizes ship watertight integrity. Then it becomes a matter of saving the many at the cost of the few.

@nathanfisher6925

Жыл бұрын

and that's why those dogs are on the *outside* side of the door only, with no matching dog handles on the inside.

Ryan painting himself into a corner of seriousness but making a joke will never get old ‘’… these are called dogs too"

Another great one Rtan, I learn so much from your videos.

Thanks for the video.

So the doggy doors are 1 curator wide

@zekiah2

Жыл бұрын

I square curator of area

I think escape trunks/doggy doors are necessary because in a combat zone, and sometimes even in training, the most unexpected things can happen. Especially considering the basic goal of modern militaries is to “kill people and break stuff” as one of my mentors used to phrase it.

Spruance Class Destroyers like mine had small doors in large hatches below water level. They would allow you to maintain high levels of water tightness and still allow you to get to lower levels. The large hatches would closed when all the time in unfriendly waters. The small door would be a scuttle hatch. Again all over modern ships.

I would have never know that. Very interesting. Awsome channel.

This is something I’ve always noticed when I watch the movie Mr Roberts. The door to Henry Fonda’s and Jack Lemon’s quarters has a doggy door

Very interesting and cool!

So Wise , Thank You . Having an Emergency Exit is Always a good idea

I also think it has something to do with fire safety as well. Smoke Rises and being able to get under it as much as you can to a safety area would or a safe exit I should say. Probably not such a bad idea.

I appreciate the solution!

I'd donate a dollar if Ryan would slightly open a doggy door, press his face up to the opening and say, with an insane look, "Heeeeeere's _Ryan_ !"

its exceptionally good design to have a way to make an opening u can open by pushing in the lower part of a door. Not just for evacuation, it also makes fire fighting much easier and inhibits the spreading of smoke. Modern ships might not have them because other firefighting measures than firefighters in a ship have come into fashion (for good reason). So while i can see getting trapped sailors out as the main reason, in a modern ship with automatic fire suppression a trapped sailor is in a lot less danger than in times past. Im also pretty sure than most areas that are crewed at all times in modern ships have some sort of fire hatch as well.

These videos are so informative.

Reminds me of 9/11 where the same problem was encountered in both the towers where doors either couldn't be opened or wouldn't properly close. Warping also caused problems for the elevators and the hvac systems as well.

They stored reefer man! Cool! LOL Great video!

If I’m not mistaken, in the movie Mister Roberts, in the stateroom scenes, the door has a “emergency escape - kick panel” sign on the stateroom door.

On the first door. Shouldn't the dogs be on the inside?

@masterdynamo6457

Жыл бұрын

They're double-sided.

I served on a Knox class frigate and we had metal doors that had kick panels in them, the doors into the crews lounge was one example.

Interesting, nice!

Doggy door appears to double as a urinal.

On. Lightly built ships for sure need ex doors on them . They need them more than a battle ship like new jersey

Learned something new. Thanks. (fyi- in case u were unaware, as your head turns side to side the volume is low/loud/low/loud…. Rinse and repeat……

I do think there should be a backup escape system when possible.

My brother helped with some restoration work on the Red Oak before taking a job in Kings Bay. He use to have some radios from Liberty Ships... Not sure if he took them, they were pretty huge.

I don't know why, but that bathroom sign pointing to the doggy door cracked me up.

You can get hose through them too for de flooding or fire too

They are useful , especially if you end up locked into a compartment . Major bulkheads don't have them of course . New Jersey is pretty robust and probably built before the idea took hold .

@JoshuaTootell

Жыл бұрын

Later ships don't have them either. More likely that Liberty/Victory ships are disposable, whereas combat vessels are not.

My dogs are pleased that they could escape a sinking ship, They vote 4 paws up,

"We heard you like watertight doors dawg, so we dogged your doors with dogs, dawg"

kick out panels are common on interior doors on most commercial ships today.

Makes sense for the battleship not to have them. If it got hit with something powerful enough to both penetrate the armor and warp the bulkheads, the sailors are probably dead already.

Frames on watertight doors in warships are very strong and made of steel as is the rest of the ship which has many compartments adding to the total robustness of the ship. Warships also have very strong round escape hatches in the deck head just big enough for normal weight crew to go through, or at least they did during my time at sea. In the 70s and 80s a lot of warships were built with aluminium superstructure to reduce top weight but sanity has since prevailed and they reverted to steel which is much harder to bend. Though bending was not the reason they reverted to steel. It was because during the Falkland war the RN had a lot of problems extinguishing fires on ships with aluminium superstructure.

Older cruise ships that I've been on such as premier Cruise lines oceanic (sadly both the cruise line and the ship are both no more) Had the kickout panels in many of the doors

As a Navy Retiree, I have too many Sea Stories... but one, getting woken up by people franticly trying to escape the space and finding the main hatch and emergency scuttle both locked with padlocks on the outside and the OOD ordering ALL hatches to below the waterline being closed, dogged and locked .... because some idiot shot off a War Shot Torpedo and the only ship it had to lock onto was ours... I got one damn rule, if I'm asleep and we're all about to die? Let me sleep thru that experience .... so far, I have given that rule numerous times, no one honors it. So I got woke up by a bunch of jibbering idiots "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIEEEEeee! They shot off a War Shot and its locked onto the ship!" and all you could hear was the torpedo seeker head locked on and then.... ZZZZZTTTTTT *THUNK* ZZZzzzzzzz *CLICK*. It wasn't a War Shot, it was a RexTorp Runner, an exercise torpedo with a seeker head and an operating engine. I am still P***ED about that. They had screwed up the paperwork on the torpedos and had loaded my RexTorp in their tubes and given me a 'RexTorp LOG' (no seeker, no motor, just a sea dye marker and enough buoyancy for it to bob) and the scored Trop Drop for my Det's Torp Drop was scored a ZERO.... so, a ZERO score after working nonstop for nearly 20 hours to get the helo up to drop it, finally get some sleep only to be woken up by stupid..... OHP Class Frigate escape trunk from the lower berthing is actually nicer than the berthing.

with the sign for restrooms right next to the doggie door, I was initially a bit worried ...

In the WWII movie Action in the North Atlantic there is a scene early movie where one of the crew tells another of the crew to not close the door to the berthing room for the reason that they could be trapped. Later when the ship is torpedoed one of the crew is trapped.

Once again BNJ teaching about some little tiny fact we never knew we wanted to know. Never change, y'all :)

Definitely! Put doggy doors back on Navy ships. I think damage control details would like the idea.

Should emergency escape doors be included in ships today? I think the answer must necessarily be "that depends on the ship type." Ships that might sustain or experience deformation of bulkheads that could jam doors closed YES. LCS types come to mind as well as naval auxiliaries built to commercial vessel standards.

My thought had been it would be because of the potential of water pressure pinning the large door closed versus the smaller one in the case of a flooded section, rather than frame warping.

I think most people would assume it's for airing out or passing toilet paper to the bathroom with that sign placed there lol!

Fast sinking ships go vertical and the main hatches can be hundreds of pounds, escape scuttles are lighter and easier to open if the ship is vertical. Most modern ships have a main hatch and an escape hatch somewhere in the space.

At Pearl Harbor, hundreds of men died when the ships capsized As long as the doors are watertight when they need to be, they should have them

@alphax4785

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The problem is there are just so many compartments on most modern warships, period, let alone a mammoth like the NJ, as vs seven on the ROV. Building an emergency hatch into hundreds of doors would add a huge amount of weight, add a point of failure that could compromise the watertight integrity of that door and be a PITA to inspect since it's so low down on the door. I'd argue the risk of a hatch failing and possibly dooming a ship with thousands of crew far outweighs its utility.

@dragonweyr44

Жыл бұрын

@@alphax4785 This is true But the prospect of condemning hundreds of men and women to die is just as bad I understand the necessity of sacrificing some crew to save the rest but shouldn't some of them be given a fighting chance to survive if possible?

@alphax4785

Жыл бұрын

@@dragonweyr44 Again though, the considerations for a merchant marine ship with splinter and small arms protection around the important spaces for armor at most, a crew of around 99 men and massive cargo holds where a torpedo hit is probably a death sentence for the ship at least is utterly different from an Iowa class BB with a crew compliment of over 2000 men in WW2 in a ship that is a beehive of compartments. I've visited the NJ and trying to count the number of doors would be a several day job... now add a hundred pounds or more for a warship grade (the doors on the NJ are far more solid than the ones on the ROV since ROV is not supposed to be in combat while combat is what the NJ's made for) 'escape hatch' for each one... you'd probably have to sacrifice an inch of armor off the main belt to compensate for the weight gain... not a good trade off.

1:10 dogs have notoriously hard time operating. Well these are also called dogs had me dying.

You gotta do something with that belt.

Always knew about kick out panels but I never heard the term doggie door. . . .

Those are handles. The dogs are on the other side holding the hatch closed ;)

HI RYAN,, VERY INTERESTING ,,!!!! THIS ISNT THE FIRST TIME I SAW THESE DOORS.. ON THE MOVIE ,,, POSIDON ADVENTURE THEY SHOWED THESE DOORS ... TRYING TO GET TO ONE COMPARMENT FLOOR TO ANOTHER ,, GOING TO SHAFT ALLEY.. BUT WITH THE SHIP UPSIDE DOWN ,, BEATING THE SHIP BEFORE IT SANK GETTING TO THE ENGINE ROOM TO THE 1 INCH STEEL DRIVE SHAFT ROOM PEPPLER ROOM TO GET OUT,,, ,, CHECK IT OUT!!! YOUR NEVER TO OLD TO GET THREW THEM RYAN.. THANK YOU RYAN!!!! LET ME KNOW ,, WHAT YOU THINK,, VERY COOL....

I think compromises are in order here. All watertight doors on lightly-built ships (supply ships, corvettes, destroyers, light cruisers) should have an escape trunk or doggy door while on heavier ships (heavy cruisers, battlecruisers, battleships, aircraft carriers) they're unnecessary.

When I was in the Navy. We would do blindfold egress from our berthing and work spaces.

Hey Ryan, your videos are great, but I see you're not using the mic correctly, you can hear at the end of the video when you turn your head towards the microphone how the sound gets better. You need to point the microphone towards your mouth, bot away from it. If it has a wire, that will usually mean that the wire is hanging downwards. Also try to move the microphone closer to the neck V-line.

@kevinhoober1863

Жыл бұрын

Not sure the exact model mic that Ryan is using (looks like the DJI wireless)...but many of those type mics are omni-directional (does not matter where you aim it). I think the issue we are hearing is just that the mic is way off center line--this can make head turning change the sound dramatically.

@KnaufL

Жыл бұрын

@@kevinhoober1863 yes but omni mic does not really catch stuff behind it, only about 120° to each side

@vhuttyu

Жыл бұрын

@@KnaufLn this case, the (marginal) directionality of the clip on mic is vastly outweighed by the inverse square law and acoustic shadowing from his face. Given this, he actually wants to move the mic /away/ from the neck, towards the middle of his chest. Either that, or opt for a forehead, over-ear, or headset mounting (not really possible with the clip on type he has) As for omni mic directionality, it entirely depends on the size of the mic and the frequency of the sound.

@kevinhoober1863

Жыл бұрын

@@KnaufL Leon, looks like you are confused on your mic patterns, you seem to be describing a cardioid pattern

Dogs have a hard time operating uh....dogs 😂

not all watertight doors need an escape hatch, but it's just another facet of naval engineering that seems to have been forgotten.

Honestly i think the doggy doors is a good idea, wich can be even better with other safety tricks

Within the limits of needing to contain flood / fire damage, yes, secondary means of egress should be part of any design, be it a warship, submarine, aircraft, or one's own home.

ooh I see reefer stores👀

Even a heavier ship could be warped by torpedo hits. Hence the desire to entirely eliminate doors through bulkheads on lower levels.

Dogs have a hard time operating [points to dog, realizes what he is about to say].

SNAFU would have been a such fitting name for my sister's dog

The guy that's says Fire needs a coffee.

The external Doughboy Door had it's dogs on the outside.

@BattleshipNewJersey

Жыл бұрын

Most doors with dogs done by hand like that have the dogging handles on both sides.

I read "dodgy door." Thinking why are the British so worried about the Battleship doors.

I think it makes sense though it is not a door that could cause leaks harder to do condition zebra

Actually, the sign does say 'restrooms', is pointing at the hatch, and that hatch opening is about the right height? Probably just give a courtesy knock to make sure no one is standing on the other side and you're good to go. 😛

I need those on my office door. I locked my keys in the other day. It took a while to figure out how to get in to get them.

How would the trapped sailor exit when the door dogs are on the outside?

I misread it as "dodgy door", and concluded it must've been due to a dodgy builder.

Very informative video. One suggestion: don't turn your head from side to side so much while you speak, it makes the volume go up and down as you face towards and then away from your microphone

They little doors are for old sea dogs 🐕 ,🇬🇧🍺 CHEERS BIG EARS.

You could say it’s a “Dog-E-Door’

Reefer Stores? They’ll fund the restoration in no time!

How many curators wide is the doggy door?

But it can't be opened from inside the compartment. How does that work?

@BattleshipNewJersey

Жыл бұрын

The dogs are on both sides of the door so it can be opened from both sides.

Other than the shape and the dogs, is there a reason that isn't called a "scuttle"?

Well, that's just a world of horror

Ryan, I love your channel! Audio: could you please put your mic in the middle instead of off to the side? It makes it really hard to listen to, particularly with ear buds. Keep up the great work!

@misstakenot9582

Жыл бұрын

And if the video has been recorded with sub-optimal mic placement, use a limiter at the editing stage to even out the huge volume swings.