You love the Mad Dog because your credit rating couldn't stretch to a Timberwolf.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Times are tough.

@topcatcoast2coast579

Ай бұрын

I would rather have 3 Vulture than 2 Mad Cats.

@fix0the0spade

Ай бұрын

@@topcatcoast2coast579 2 Timbys have as much armour as 3 Mad Dogs and only 12 less cooling. 3 Mad Dogs vs 2 Timberwolves gives the Mad Dogs fire superiority for the first turn, then they're overheating, they have to stop firing or stop running (hint, never stop running), then the Timbys rip one of them in half on the second turn and it all gets very messy. I don't remember ever playing that specific scenario, but anything vs a Star with 2 Timberwolves is in for an interesting time.

@JynxBlack13

Ай бұрын

It's all about style, this Dog has good bite!

@andrigorosetti8176

Ай бұрын

Sometimes it's nice to take the extra money to canopus

The Vulture is one of those mechs that just looks right

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Form and function.

@todddelevan9488

Ай бұрын

I've got questions about where the missile reloads go though, based on the size of the missiles, the launchers and the 'mech's torso in general....

@jaredragland4707

Ай бұрын

​@@todddelevan9488They're in there somewhere around the omni; it's what gives omnimechs their mystique.

@ogrehaslayers605

Ай бұрын

​@@todddelevan9488clearly, the toes

@todddelevan9488

Ай бұрын

@@ogrehaslayers605 a feature clearly borrowed from the Crusader!

just started watching, i really hope the custom MF loadout is called the Mad Frog

@milesrost6674

Ай бұрын

Solid!!

@Psychohistorian42

Ай бұрын

Well, it is able to hop around with those jumpjets, so that's fitting.

@fix0the0spade

Ай бұрын

Yes, it can even jump.

@tomcowan7695

Ай бұрын

but where is the Plasma Cannon(s) for a real MF mech

@IamHattman

Ай бұрын

The CT turret?

The Slayer of the Black Widow definitely deserves a video of her own. I like to think that in another universe, an ancient, decrepit Joanna dies after beating Malvina Hazen to death with those steel-tacked gloves for disgracing the Clan.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

If only...

@Cadiangrunt99

Ай бұрын

Bonus points in that timeline? Horse is some how mixed up in it. They are coffin mates after all!

Alright the Mesopotamian copper joke got me lol

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Glad someone other than I found it entertaining.

@harbingerx7793

Ай бұрын

I'd heard about that one too. Made me snicker.

Oh Ea-nāșir, you’ll never live it down.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Alrighty.

@marsar1775

Ай бұрын

they say you only truly die when noone speaks your name for the last time in that sense, he has achieved immortality

@LexYeen

Ай бұрын

So long as someone's name is remembered, they're still alive in some form. And may _that_ man in particular live forever.

I still have a poster of the Mad Dog/Vulture I got back in 98 it's looking ragged, but I'll never get rid of it

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Good as gold.

Joanna to everyone, including herself: You have just made an enemy for life!

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

*Bitter mechwarrior shakes fist at sky*

4:20 in... "Oh, Battletech times lines are silly sometimes..." Truer words have never been spoken.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Grain of salt and a suspension of disbelief.

@h.a.9880

Ай бұрын

In a setting so amazingly constructed, those moments when a Mech design takes more than a lifetime to be completed or it takes a successor state a hundred years to go "Hmmm... how about I replace one heatsink with a medium laser?" are like little gems of entertainment.

Smoke Jaguar opted to provide the Clans the ultimate weapon. It is their legacy. The Mad Dog.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

As far as legacies go, this is a good one.

@thil2894

Ай бұрын

Did not help them to win vs Comstar or save their clan though. I could not resist. Big Fan. It's also not an Orion,

@SpaceMarine4040

Ай бұрын

It is a fantastic smoke jaguar legacy but it is hard to say that it is their ultimate weapon. So many of their mechs did so well such as the dire wolf, warhawk, and mist lynx also props to them for not inventing it but getting it to production first like a proper asshole.

Why do I love the Mad Dog? Because from the waist down, it's a Timberwolf. (The programmers for the early iterations of the Virtual Worlds pods wanted to be able to recycle geometry when they could to save memory space. Thus the Doylest reason the Omnimech was born.)

Joanna is my favorite Jade Falcon and my favorite Battletech character in general. I would LOVE a vid giving her the attention she deserves.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

I really like her character. She's just too grumpy not to appreciate.

Joanna is a severely underrated character

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Truth.

lol, maybe Quikscell should sell a combat vehicle called the Ea-nasir-it would certainly fit them

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Hmm.

@Psychohistorian42

Ай бұрын

"I'm pretty sure the armor is copper. And no, I didn't bother to check the quality."

@h.a.9880

Ай бұрын

What would it be armed with? Rocket Launchers disguised as LRM launchers?

@scytheseven9173

Ай бұрын

@@h.a.9880 that's a good one, actually

Battletech is long-lived, but Ea-Nasir jokes are eternal!

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Truth.

Cheers for a classic clan mech overview :-) we love the vulture because of the 2 dirty clan large pulse lasers that are amongst the nastiest weapons on the battlefield :-)

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

They do tend to leave a mark.

Sure, the Timber Wolf gets all the glamor shots and glory, but the Mad Dog was the real workhorse of Clan Invasion era. It was my first choice back when I played MechWarrior 2, and it's still a rock solid platform for when I want to play with Clanner tech for a bit.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Absolutely agreed.

To quote the Martians from Invader Zim: *"Because it's cooool."*

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Form and function.

@Kepora1

Ай бұрын

@@MechanicalFrog precisely. One of my fave heavies in MWO is a Mad Dog with an ERLL, UAC10, and a battery of SRM4s. It's heat efficient and absolutely shreds up close while still being able to reach out and touch, and it's a viable build in tabletop too!

the Mad Dog is, i think, the quintessential Clan OmniMech-using its advanced technology to be fast and well-armed, but only decently armored and frequently misusing the generous pod space to fit far more weaponry than it can actually cool or supply for long on paper it has the firepower of an Inner Sphere assault and the speed of an Inner Sphere medium, but in practice it will often be degraded to having speed and firepower more akin to an Inner Sphere heavy, at many times the cost and logistical requirement thanks for the video, MF!

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Many of the variants would be better off with just one or two more heatsinks instead of that extra weapon you're not going to be able to shoot.

@scytheseven9173

Ай бұрын

@@MechanicalFrog after a few rounds of fire during the Clan Invasion, a lot of Mad Dog variants are about on par with a contemporary Warhammer 7M (similar firepower, armor, and speed when you take heat into account), which wasn't even a particularly great LosTech upgrade to the old girl

A huge YES to a Joanna video! Please!

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

It would be fun.

@ianramsey101

Ай бұрын

Considering how the Legends book treats her she definitely deserves a video.

Another Clanner mech I first saw in the Battletech cartoon. I cannot help but like this particular one other than the MadCat.

I LOVE the mad dog, such an iconic design. Plus as a lover of missiles, a mech with big missile boxes make me happy.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Hard to find much wrong with it.

Joanna just bee deserving of a video including herself and other standouts from Jade Falcon!!! Thanks for everything. Happy Fathers Day (belated)!! - Godspeed

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Thanks for coming by. Hope your Father's Day weekend was stellar.

@milesrost6674

Ай бұрын

@@MechanicalFrog TY

My favorite mech as a kid growing up in the 90s.

@Puggerton007

Ай бұрын

The art that was on reinforcements 2 boxset (and used elsewhere) went so hard, made it my instant fav in the early 90s!

I failed to mention I was recently gifted an original first run Mad Dog poster from FASA. That treasure, along with another original, still in packaging lead Wolverine mini from the 80s, were part of a Christmas package.

@louiswilkins9624

Ай бұрын

Great score 👍🏿

My absolute favorite clan mech. I loved using it in MWO because no one expects the missile boat way in the back to be packing so much teeth

@praiseHashut

20 күн бұрын

heehh lspllottt

I remember my first time jumping into a mechpod at a Jillians in Denver. The mech I picked was the "Vulture" (later learned it was called the Mad Dog).It felt satisfying when I rained down volleys and volleys of LRMs on the enemy mechs from a ridgeline. My brother was backing me up in his Hauptmann and just decimated the softened targets with an AC20.

My second favorite mech next to the Kodiak. Glad to see this one.

A personal thank you from my Clan to yours for featuring a Hell's Horse configuration in appropriate colours AND Elementals. Well met, Trothkin.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

I mean, they do need some love occasionally.

The realization that led me to loving the Prime configuration is that Clan LRMs are some of the best SRMs in the game. Instead of trying to use them to wear down enemies at range or for fire support, I save them for crit hunting after the pulse lasers have punched some holes.

Came for the video. Stayed for the humour... especially the Ea-nāṣir reference.

Most people say the Mad Cat is the most iconic clan mech and they are factually correct, but for me it was always the Vulture. For some reason images of the machine featured very heavily in magazine previews of Mech Commander (my introduction to the universe) back in the day and the design just stuck with me. Of course, it helps that it *is* a good machine, too. Also, shoutout to Ea-Nasir.

The Config C was a fun mech to use in MW3 when you had MFB's to re-arm you.

What a beautiful mech. And yes, Joanna absolutely needs her own video!

Mechwarrior 4 intro cinematic. That's why I love this mech.

Thanks for the video. The prime config of the Mad Dog always truck me as some one wanting the Timberwolf load-out on a lighter frame.

I always liked how it looked like the evolved form of an Archer

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Definitely some similarities there.

I just remember seeing the intro to MW4 all those years ago and falling in love with the Mad Dog/Vulture in all its iterations

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

It has that classic beautiful look to it.

The MadDog is the perfect example of Clan mindset during the initial invasion. Overgunned, undersinked, and without enough armor. But the shock, awe and overwhelming aggression won them great gains initialy.

never gave this mech love back in the day but seeing how it has remained useful thanks to that massive pod space......just impressive. also you gotta love the look!

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Absolutely. Hard to deny the drawing power of all that room.

When the Mad Dog barks, the Inner Sphere listens. I think I'll use the MF variant on my father tomorrow on the tabletop. Keep up the great work!

The missile racks being so close to the engine always amused me But it looks like a fighter jet with legs so you gotta love that

I always loved the cut away view of the Vulture on the cover of the one TRO book.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Plenty of great MD art.

The Mad Dog A is all kinds of fun with those SRMs.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Yeah it'll be a friendship tester. "Time to roll the damage on 30 SRMs..."

Lovin the vulture techno at the beginning

I watch these ony my TV.. but dayum.. with headphones on PC. That beat just slaps like an AC20!

I gotta hand it to the designers, j adore the variant with a ton of SRM tubes. Its like duct taping a bunch of trench sweepers onto a giant robot of death.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

It's just neat...

@dvader1293

Ай бұрын

@@MechanicalFrog it could use more srms, though... ;)

I just finished painting a Zeta Galaxy Mad Dog for Jade Falcon. And got say heck of a mech to paint. Pure hell on the table against me.

The Mad Dog was the original favorite battlemech of mine way back when I played my dad's copy of MechWarrior 2 and saw that mech on the cover of Ghost Bear's Legacy.^^ (And despite being an Inner Sphere free-birth scum myself, I call it a "Mad Dog" instead of a "Vulture" because I like dogs more than birds. Batchall me...) These days my now favorite mech is the MadCat MKII, with the Bull Shark being a close second. But based on how they look, you can kinda see a pattern as to why I like all of them so much.^^ I'm very happy to listen to a more in depth review of my OG favorite battlemech. Keep doing what you're doing Mechanical Frog, we love you for it.^^

Love the Mad Dog. Torso-mounted missile pods I just can't resist. Have one painted up for my Beta Galaxy Wolves.

The Mad Dog is one of those mechs that is living proof of the mystery of why there are not more clan 60 tonners. It fits the holy trinity of firepower, armor and speed for a heavy. We need more 60 tonners in the future. My favorite variations are the F and a custom variation of the Prime I made in MWO. I took off the cLPL's for cMPL's, upgraded the cLRM 15 racks with Artemis IV and gave it much more needed LRM ammo tonnage. Love the balance of long range support while if any lights or mediums are stupid enough to get close, they get blasted by 4 cMPL's.

@Puggerton007

Ай бұрын

60 tons is a weird spot of being a heavy but 55's get almost all the same thing where as a 75 can be generally as fast with more armor and just as many weapons.

The Mad Dog was the 2nd Clan Mech tried when I first started getting in the BT universe. It's in my Top 5 Clan Mechs.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Hope the vid did the mech justice.

@calumdeighton

Ай бұрын

​@@MechanicalFrog Yes. Yes it did.

B config is the best tabletop config for the Mad Dog IMO: The 'mech itself has too little armor for much staying power in a fight, so it needs to either be fire support, or deal so much damage so fast that longevity isn't an issue. The Mad Dog B is the latter. This is a design you play aggressively with, the heat curve is actually phenomenal - you can risk a small overheat with the streaks thrown in (don't fire one ERLL) and if they don't hit, you're actually in the clear, you only overheat when things go your way, and if you overheat from infernos or whatever, you just mixup some combination of the medium pulse lasers and the streaks to get back in the green while still dealing serious damage. The LRM20 at first glance seems bizarre - only has 6 shots, which looks really dumb at first, but not when you realize they aren't for long range fire support - Clan LRM's have no short range penalty; their best usage here comes from crit-seeking holes in an enemy 'mech's armor, in the Mad Dog B, its best in a backstab. This is a 'mech that you manuever into the rear arc of an enemy 'mech, break down the armor with the lasers and then and unleash so much missile/crit-seeking firepower that you kill or cripple a nearly pristine mech in 1 round. If I can get a Mad Dog B into a proper brawl (and Inner Sphere players always want a brawl), it will reliably remove a mech every round or three, especially if you save it in reserve sniping with the ERLL's until enemy units have a few holes in their armor - say rounds 8-12; by round 16 it'll be dead or nearly dead, just like the entire lance it brawled with. This variant exemplifies what a Clan brawler should be like - You play insanely aggressive, almost suicidal. It's a stark contrast to how most people play Clans, which is methodically maximizing movement modifiers and range brackets slowly whittling down Inner Sphere tonnage over the course of 20-30 rounds. Which is a playstyle that works, but really isn't fun. The Mad Dog B is the exact opposite of that. You get in a short range knife fight and everything starts dying. In my experience playing with people, they have a lot more fun this way, both for them and for me - rounds end faster, stuff blows up more, and everyone feels like they're doing something interesting rather than being helplessly pinpricked for 80% of the game until they finally corner a Clan 'mech and kick it to death.

You work hard , and it is appreciated .

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Thank you.

Taking the Prime config and letting the Mechtechs get their grubby hands on it, Downgrading the Large Pulse Lasers to Mediums, and using the leftover tonnage for more ammunition seems like a no-brainer.

Worth noting that even when the LRMs run dry, you're still capable of throwing PPC-level damage downrange every turn with a 5/8/0 movement profile (with improved accuracy mind you) and, if someone _dared_ to close distance you could bring both of the medium pulses into the mix. It would push you into the red by a fair bit, even standing still, but it's more damage than an Awesome and... that's terrifying from a mech that's the same weight-class as the Rifleman and the Dragon.

I've loved the maddog since I was a child, never knew it wasn't fire support 😂

MechWarrior2: Mercenaries. The Vulture/Mad Dog was my favorite. The Timberwolf was on the cover. I'm contrarian. I always end up siding with the counterpart to the main character. The play style of dropping missiles before running up and face stomping was a fun bit too. I'm still figuring out the rules and mechanics for the tabletop. Havent played that yet. Sounds like this will still be one of my favorites. And whichever one in MW3 looked like it was permanently crouched in a metal turtle shell.

Ah the Vulture a great name for this nightmare. Another clan mech that forces me to actually think about playing them instead of the only true heroes of the IS. I loved that it had a 360 rotation of the torso in Mechwarrior 4 Mercs

I love this mech. It's the first clan design I ever fielded on tabletop and it was always a consistent performer for me. Hell, in the last game I had, my Mad Dog scored the only two mech kills of the match; a Fire Moth early game and a Timberwolf later.

Should have been called the Archer IIC, and should have been a fire support mech.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

But it wants to be so much more...

@dvader1293

Ай бұрын

There is no firesupport among true clan warriors. it's a concept fit only for those unable to win a proper duel; it is a freebirth's job, and we will not let them use our shiny omnimechs for that. ;)

The A config is just SCARY to me.

Such a beautiful mech. Thanks Frog.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

My pleasure!

I can't wait to run one of these on MW5 Clans!

My favorite Clan Mech!

next to the timby the Mad dog is definitly one of my favorite mechs

@sheilaolfieway1885

Ай бұрын

@T.ELE.GRAMMechanicalFrog like where?

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

That is a scam/bot account. Don't respond.

@sheilaolfieway1885

Ай бұрын

@@MechanicalFrog i figured.

*Clanner:* "Listen closely, this is the Timber Wolf, and this is the Mad Dog." *Spheriod:* "Mad Cat and Vulture, got it." *Clanner:* "..."

4:05 Smoked Jaguar was never known to for its lower castes. The warriors had a, “the beatings will continue until moral improves”, management policy towards them. I don’t blame them for taking that long. An upset warrior probably killed the lead designer every quarter.

One of the Mechs starring in Battletech game intros nearly as much as the Mad Cat / Timberwolf

You really had me wondering what Ea Nasir had to do with the Vulture for a second there

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Well, you see... it's a bit of a long story.

I used to use a personal load out, four ER Large Lasers, two in each arm, and the side torsos (and everywhere else) packed with 12 extra Double Heat sinks (48 heat comp total). 4-4-3 firing sequence and this is the fastest moving pseudo-Awesome of the Clan Invasion era.

I will always remember that first mission in MW2 where you pilot a Mad Dog in the desert. I can't remember if it was the JF or Wolf campaign. I think the end goal was to scan the enemy dropship after eliminating all enemy mechs. Talk about nostalgia.

The Mad Dog is my favorite mech, and one of the first mechs that introduced me to the setting. Story time. Back in the early 90s there was this silly little DOS game called Megatron (not to be confused with the Decepticon leader), which featured two mechs """borrowed""" from Battletech: the Vulture and Mad Cat. It was a simple 3D maze game with the objective of finding and blowing up the opponent with lasers & missiles before they did the same to you. Of the two, I always preferred the design of the Vulture and picked that one to play as. Fast forward a couple of years and a little game comes out, called Mechwarrior 2: 31st Century Combat. Although the Timber Wolf was featured prominently on the box art, in the training mode it's the Mad Dog that greets you first (with the gruff instructor piloting it and constantly berrating you). And at the very end of training, you're given a Mad Dog yourself for your Trial of Position. So the Mad Dog is the mech that earned you the respect of your instructor, and the title of Mechwarrior. That, combined with its iconic design, pretty much cemented it as my favorite. I would always end up replacing the launchers for LRM-15s to add extra ammo and better heat management, along with some jump jets for mobility. It was dangerous at all ranges even against Assaults.

Oh baby Vulture Time!

The Vulture/MadDog was my favorite Mech to use in MechAssault 1 and it's the most successful Mech in BattleTech, in the way of how many Clans were using them during the Clan Invasion

Man I love the Vulture

This has been one of my favorite mechs since I first laid eyes on it. Easily a top 10 in terms of looks and I do enjoy many of its configurations.

Great video! Love the Madcat and Maddog. Looking forwardto moe videos.

Because it reminds us of our favorite wines of the 1980's.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

"wine"

@JohnnySmithWhite-wd4ey

Ай бұрын

@@MechanicalFrog Morgan David made many "fine wines".

As a Mechcommander enjoyer, the Mad Dog was a go to mech pretty much as soon as it was salvaged. Tons of weapon space, fast and light. A great lance mate for the Timber Wolf you spent hours trying to salvage at the beginning of the game. As a side note, heavy lasers were amazing weapons in Mechcommander 2. I would load up Blood Asps with heavy large lasers and just delete mechs.

A longtime favorite!

The Mad Dog always just... LOOKED right.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Form and function.

The Archer's less lanky cousin that I can't trust to not smash my poor mechs with way too many missiles.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

How many missiles? All the missiles.

Great video! Thanks for making. So many cool mechs. Would love another planet video also :)

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

I'm doing the groundwork for the next planet video. So... "soon"

60 tons. Enjoys the toughness of a medium, but the duties of a heavy.

The Mad Dog. AKA, the Budget Timberwolf. AKA, hell's hottest bastard when I load this thing up with ATMs, a few tons of ammo, ER Small lasers, and a prayer. You aren't everyone's favorite mech, but for a medium-speed striker lance, you're one of my first picks.

I took a Mad Dog D in one of Catalyst's GenCon tournaments. I gutted a Kodiak knocked out a Stalker II before I lost my ATM launchers...fun times

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

glad to hear that.

Mad Dog, meant to be an insult. Turns out just an accurate description.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Did you hear about the heroic Mad Dog that ran into the burning hangar to bite one more mechwarrior?

The mad dog looks as similar to the lupus as the hunchback does to the urbie.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Heh.

The Mad Dog's a superb 'mech, its iconic and its configs and various models make it a real swiss army knife of a 'mech with a weapon for every role.

Because it was in almost every video game.

One of the most basic and effective mechs of the Clan invasion. Deadly and Simple.

The cockpit placement is a bit silly but the mech just looks great. I love the narrow foward profile.

Very interesting to see the Lupus, Avatar and Bushwhacker in the story of the Vulture/Mad Dog.🤔 I must admit that when I first saw the mech in black and white images my teens I didn’t see the cockpit up on top and thought the front plate down the ‘chest’ was the canopy!😅

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

A common misconception.

So many fun variants, though for dueling, I consider the I variant unique. Using the Capacitor enhanced Clan ERPPC, you hit with an AC20 at long range and twin Clan RAC-2s (and two tons of ammo) exploit the holes the ERPPC makes. Runs cool with the 15 DHS. May not be the most powerful, but in a 1v1 it can be effective. Me, I would probably ditch the twin RAC-2s for one RAC-5 with 6 tons of ammo guarded with CASE II, a targeting computer, and the oh so important emotional support ER Small Laser. Little surprised you didn't do the cheeky mention of the Mad Dog Mk II.

The primary config is two mechs in one, it's a missile boat until they run out then it becomes an accurate sniper.

@MechanicalFrog

Ай бұрын

Good times had by all.

Favourite visual design to me is the MW4 version, vs the original. There's just this "refined" feel to it that I can't quite put a word to, and that last stand intro made it bad ass too. And that chin mount moving always reminded me of things like the AH64D EOSS on the nose that follows the pilot vision.

LOL The "S" config is an old friend of mine ... but I run it on a refit MAD-3R. 🙂

The Mad Dog is pretty much the introduction of Pulse Lasers. Its the only first-gen Clan Mech that had them in the prime configuration. Its got the usual flaws of the first-gen(not enough ammo, armor, heat sinks), but its fun. It was on the cover of Mechwarrior 2 Ghost Bear's Legacy. Its got several successors of various qualities. The Mad Mod/Vulture MK II is kind of a black sheep. It was a model redesign around the early 2000s where the medium pulse lasers were moved to a chin rack. I also remember a 75ton version in the MekTek mod for Mechwarrior 4. That version had Gauss Rifles. The Mad Dog Mk III downgrades the pulse lasers to get 80 long range missile tubes on a 60ton design, more than the LRM Carrier has. The Mad Dog Mk IV is a Dark Age design with some new technology, but its much more of a brawler, downgrading to Short Range missiles even if it has 24 tubes.

I've always liked the look of the Vulture, but MW4 really took it to another level. That intro cinematic was one of the best. The MWDA Vulture followed MW4's design with the chin lasers, and one of the things I appreciate most of the CGL refresh is the nod to that chin turret with the sensor pod thing. The Vulture is the Clan Omnimech Archer, and in turn influenced the Bushwacker's long, narrow torso with an XL, as well as the Avatar (one of Kurita's first home-built Omnimechs). IIRC the MW4/MWDA Vulture has been reclassified as a Mk II or Mk III, with the II supposedly being mostly an aesthetic change (and possibly moving the medium lasers from the Prime into the CT) and the III making a full suite of configurations based on that new design aesthetic.

@jellico1238

Ай бұрын

Have a look at the Mad Dog D. It is roughly contemporaneous to MW4. Ever since MW4 there has been a long effort to match the Mad Dog to the MW4 aesthetic. I prefer the sleeker original, but that is what we get.

@Darren_Xero

Ай бұрын

The Vulture/Mad Dog in MW4 is said to be the Vulture/Mad Dog Mk II produced by the Ghost Bear Dominion