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@GrenzRell
Жыл бұрын
Yahaha? The creators a bunch of koroks?
@rimmer62
Жыл бұрын
hello tilt love your suport idea do you think: is this posible with maokai (your e controls bushes)
@felipdn3329
Жыл бұрын
@@rimmer62 its not. sion's undead passive is what makes this possible
@Blaze-kf3ds
Жыл бұрын
the cool roblox doesnt exist you cant have enjoyment the cooler roblox:
@UszatyCDF
Жыл бұрын
you got what u deserved. play meta or get banned. period ;p Riot and their wishfull thinking my arse... These cretins have no clue what is making the game unplayablee. Idiots that dont follow 1 t eam call or people who actually try to do new stuff with champions and get destroyed by it and riot's white knights... This is disgusting from riot Tilt - i hope u will elaborate some more on the perm ban story i hope ure doing well now ;p
We need a worlds team that's willing to do different strategies like this to shake things up and make interesting games
@Rendili
Жыл бұрын
There were a few seasons where duo jungling was a developing meta, but it got hard nerfed early on.
@PurpleOkayTurtle
Жыл бұрын
Riot would never. ever. Allow deviation from standard play like that
@joefoulger3510
Жыл бұрын
@@PurpleOkayTurtle it's probably in the players' contracts that they have to play all the traditional roles with no deviation
@nathanc939
Жыл бұрын
@@PurpleOkayTurtle The current meta was created by breaking Riot's meta. It is later that Riot started to try and make it permanent...
@kevintrigg3707
Жыл бұрын
probably wouldn't work as well against a more coordinated team. If the other support rotates to leave bot a 1v1 and goes with the jg to fight the sion he loses. also if the mid or top just interfere with him
One thing that's always bugged me since they added dedicated roles, was that the game meta can't change. 2 junglers will be so hard to be accepted because people are told it is supposed to be 1 1 1 2 instead of 1 2 1 1 like this.
@atrozzorta9602
Жыл бұрын
Which always makes me laugh how much Riot is forcing the meta. Even new champions are being made as "adc" or "jungle". This is the same company years ago that said they didn't want a meta and didn't want to force people into a meta.
@roeenili3140
Жыл бұрын
@@atrozzorta9602 well they owne the game....
@clion520
Жыл бұрын
It hopefully will get there soon. There have been a few people trying out jungle support, they don't had invade like Tilt but hopefully getting a shake up as more people like FFS, Tyler1 and others try it out
@syllo137
Жыл бұрын
Even before roles people played this setup and only for a brief period it was adc mid, I remember since Ive played since S1. Or you dont remeber good old everyone typing their roles in chat asap, "mid or feed" or last person getting sup just because their client was too slow to load? Thinking its riots fault for current meta is just stupid.
@Kurisu1337
Жыл бұрын
@@syllo137 old meta: mage top, jungler, adc mid, tank and supp bot. good old days where when yorick came out everything went bonkers cause he would dominate toplane every game
It's kinda funny how games get more toxic, the more rules that are enforced.
@Bob-tq9ny
Жыл бұрын
I mean it's pretty much the same in real life, people get upset the more their liberty is restricted.
@funrique
Жыл бұрын
Your use of the English language is toxic
@EeveeRealSenpai
Жыл бұрын
@@funrique denied
@Mali8029
Жыл бұрын
Is not about the rules per say it is mostly about their expectations. People expect more so they get more easily disappointed and therefore frustrated.
@wezzyuwezzuy9338
Жыл бұрын
Its almost like meta is not fun.
I'm a bit sad how Sylas doesn't abuse your invade early by stealing her blue. And it's feels like he's lost on how to get value while you disturb their jungler. No drake, no hard camp bot, no invade. A "play by the book" jungler vibe.
@bingustavo
Жыл бұрын
there was a video where tilterella talked about it being better to take your own camps because otherwise, your side of the map has low level camps but the enemy has high level camps.
@blitzwolfer4154
Жыл бұрын
@@bingustavo While that is true, if he did invade then it would set Evelynn very far behind, due to lack of first clear camps. Later on it'd be better to focus clearing one's own jungle than prioritizing invading since Tilterella was already on it.
@jandjhroco
Жыл бұрын
@@blitzwolfer4154 There was the video before of the jungler who spent too much time trying to counter jungle that his team ended up under-leveled. It's a fine line between trying to deny the enemy jungler and speeding through your own clear. In the time it takes Sylas without boots to walk to enemy blue he could've taken a camp on his own side.
@Tilterella
Жыл бұрын
Usually it’s better that they first clear their own jungle, but in this situation because the eve has no flash and hasn’t cleared a camp yet, I knew she’d only be able to chase me around or die trying to secure lvl 2. So there was no risk for my jungled to Invade.
@Tilterella
Жыл бұрын
It worked out okay either way
"Gp thinks that both junglers are on this, and he would be kind of right, but he forgot that we have 3 roamers"
Damn, Riot really out here trying to ban off-meta strats while still saying they're allowed, at this rate you're gonna have to just turn this into the meta to keep playing it, think you can convince Damwon Gaming to use this strat at a major?
@TheRottenapples
Жыл бұрын
That would be great to see. Really see if they could adapt. A true measure of skill.
@drakefisher6317
Жыл бұрын
@Catty Well last season he placed Master's with a 56% win rate on Sion, and while a solid amount of that was most likely top, he did spend a good chunk of that time playing Sion Supp so the fact that his win rate is so good despite the "1 good game out of the many bad games" should tell you that either his OP GG account is lying or you're just wrong.
@MaxiRSPS
Жыл бұрын
it's sad really they say u can do whatever off meta u want but still ban, least in eariler seasons there wasnt a meta set in stone
@Tiagocf2
Жыл бұрын
its specially funny because the company name is Riot but they dont you to play 1% out of their rules
@drakefisher6317
Жыл бұрын
@@Tiagocf2 That's because they're the ones throwing the riot A riot against well made games
Tilterella: Unfortunately I died... but I SURVIVED!
@boredgamer7841
Жыл бұрын
"call an ambulance... but not for ME"
Never stop! Looking forward to the second time permaban video xD
11:20 'I've not been bot all game, no reason I'd come there' - support LOL, I love watching this strat so much. 14:50 gp is a man of culture coming in with the akame ga kill reference.
Bro this command and conquer music is so nostalgic
What's even more sad is that Riot most likely won't do anything to the GP who's telling you to self delete, but they'll go after you for this off meta strategy. Riot has really fallen off. Love the content! Happy New Years!
Tilterella: Everyone deserves an honor Also Tilterella: States why everyone deserves it Meanwhile Tilterella: Firoa didnt get too mad when I took his farm
Im glad Tilt has been doing this. I’ve been doing it months before he made a video, and it got me to Diamond in 3 weeks after I was hardstuck gold for a year. It’s the playstyle for me
14:33 the slow field has a cooldown, you cant just auto each person once for the slow
@khurts08
Жыл бұрын
Yes he probably knows that (i don't wanna be rude) he is just autoing to lifesteal since he's under the passive state, and hoping that the passive will last until he procs another slow
@alex2005z
Жыл бұрын
@@khurts08 he says that he slowed everyone, which is impossible giving the cooldown
@khurts08
Жыл бұрын
@@alex2005z i swear i hear him saying "i am trying to slow everyone that i can" but yeah idrc anymore anyways it's on you now not me
"Riot can't take that away from me" famous last words
When the jungler steals a buff it’s an outplay but when the support does it it’s a reportable offense
Tilt, the reason why Sylas was going to help you in your invade, is because sylas jg is supossed to get lvl 3 and start fighiting, he have a very bad jg clear, he cant power farm, the pick is just rushing lvl 3 and perma gank to get feed, should remember that, not all the jg are like Hecarim that have to full clear
Can you please upload on of these where the early strat goes wrong OR the team gets extremely behind regardless? Interested in how those can be turned around
@maxschulz6185
Жыл бұрын
there is no strat, you get banned. people are only forgiving for this shit when it works :D stale meta etc
@scotsan3857
Жыл бұрын
@@maxschulz6185 Thanks I will wait for an answer from someone who makes it out of diamond on a regular basis
@GrEEnF1Re1
Жыл бұрын
@@scotsan3857 As the other dude said, this doesnt work on higher elos because people actually know how to punish this kind of Cheese strats, if they wanted the support would roam with Even and Fight sion, he will lose every single fight, same for mid, roaming with them
@artje90
Жыл бұрын
@@GrEEnF1Re1 Ah the "high elo"arguement which he actually has a video debunking this trash arguement. cause actually the high elo guys have the most difficulty adjusting
@alexanderhamilton4258
Жыл бұрын
@@artje90 This doesn't work in challenger or silver. Everywhere else though is free game.
13:15 PLEASE look at this frame by frame XD it's hilarious how that minion radomly decided to teleport out of the Zeri's way. Gotta low Riot's spagetti code
we missed tilterella
This double jg looks fun. Also quite nice with Ivern sup if you have good carries. What other champions would be good with this? Morgana? Rammus? Nunu?
8:26 dudes playing command an conquer zero hour ost XD
I saw that tyler1 has been playing smite support ivern and it looks pretty effective from what I have seen on his youtube
"Why do they get so tilted by my playstyle?" - guy named Tilterella
Don´t know if someone metioned it already, but appriciate the C&C Generals music :D
Let me tell you, putting up all these vids with Generals' soundtrack is giving me some serious nostalgia haha
I played a game like this with a yi "sup" with me bot Jinx. The actual jg got mad and said yi was gonna do nothing but steal farm and troll. I rewatched the game and the jg basically mentally afk'd and fed 2 or 3 kills without a reason to try fighting and the freedom to run each time. The jg also never showed bot even when near and i was being dived for 15 secs. The yi farmed camps the jg wasnt near and made constant creative and successful plays the first 8 minutes and went 2/1/1. People can get so caught up in their ideas of "being a good person" and "the right thing" that they become abysmal at respecting themselves and anyone else once their beliefs are ignored by even one person. its so wild
@AgentYellowWang
Жыл бұрын
i know that why you don't try to act like you right when meet people like that. They would 100% sabotage the game to prove that they always right, the best action to do is to actually stealth their camp bring out your mastery act like you troll so they won't sabotage to ruin your game bc in their mind they want the last laugh but if you troll they don't need to prove a thing or if they actually just don't play then they won't get the last laugh either so best version of it, you will also always keep a sane mind when trying off meta stuff in this toxicity environment.
Damn i missed that, nice seeing you back in action!
Sion dark harvest jung also does a pretty mean jung too.
Lol 22 to 6 at 10 minutes. Don’t think I’ve ever seen such a gulf.
Loving the command and conquer zero hour music
'Unique playstyles' are a wildcard, and most people would rather have 50/50 than take a gamble on a strat that might not work from a complete stranger they dont know.
the fcking gererals music always gets me
Because people hate what they don't understand. It's easier than question yourself.
confort zone breaked
Ayyy i just noticed, tilterella got banned until my birthday last year
My experience playing off-meta is so terrible it's just not worth it. Even when I put effort into communicating, teammates are much more prone to mental boom and I'm automatically the scapegoat.
9:56 why does Braums silhouette look like a freezerbox on legs
on one hand I can see why an ADC would get so upset because the game largely goes from just farming for 10 minutes, to now having to play really well 2 v 1 so as not to lose the tower. Not everyone's prepared to do that, playing 2 v 1 is objectively harder... On the other hand, with the changes to XP, allowing the ADC to get solo experience is a massive win for the mid/late game. So if you can find an ADC that knows how to farm safely under turret in a 2 v 1 situation, I think this is a far more winning playstyle. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see this come out at worlds at some point. I mean they did the whole support clearing with jungle for a bit before they made whatever changes that nerfed the heck out of that. I could also see Riot doing something where they limit Smite to only the person in the jungle position, which would effectively destroy this playstyle. But Riot doesn't really like the meta playstyle being disrupted too much.
@tonysmith9905
Жыл бұрын
There is a difference in being able to "survive" or "play 2v1" and playing against a comp that is designed to turret dive. Thresh, Naught, Leona, Braum? They all would look at a solo botlaner and see nothing but cash. Against a good comp and decent players doing a 2 jung strat literally means you just made the game a 4v5.
@xerodeus2337
Жыл бұрын
@@tonysmith9905 well the argument though with the 2 jungle strat is you're eliminating their jungle as being relevant. So it basically is who can "survive" the longest, enemy jungler or your ADC. With that said though, I do wish turret diving was way more punishing than it is.
@tonysmith9905
Жыл бұрын
@@xerodeus2337 It's way more punishing for the solo botlaner though. They literally can't go any where but botlane into what is most likely going to be them feeding. The enemy jungler you're supposedly eliminating? They can still make successful ganks else where thanks to numbers being op. They have outs to get back into the game. Against a good botlane duo that solo adc has none. They shouldn't even be able to farm.
@xerodeus2337
Жыл бұрын
@@tonysmith9905 I agree I think it is way more punishing but also has a much greater reward if it works out. And I think that's what tilt is seeing. Cause it's either an absolute blowout domination, or they get shit on lol. Either way, we all know Riot will get rid of this eventually lol
@tonysmith9905
Жыл бұрын
@@xerodeus2337 There was a singed player doing this support playstyle a few years back. Him getting banned multiple times actually blew up and became a topic for a while. It's not the first time I'm seeing this.
"I'm not permanently banned anymore"
I think this playstyle uniquely tilts teammates because before queing up they have this idea in their mid that they're gonna 1v9 as draven in masters and end up not being able to play the game the way that they wanted
Its not that people don't like unique play styles, its that your 'unique playstyle' is toxic.
Because only a very select few people are able to pull it off, the amount of players who see these strats and try to replicate them with absolutely 0 understanding of what makes them work is ridiculous and frustrating to encounter.
Yea, you'll have to play normals for "experimental" picks/builds. One bad game on ranked with a weird champ or build and riot will immediately consider it griefing.
@GrEEnF1Re1
Жыл бұрын
Because this kind of shit in ranked is just fustrating, the dude gets banned for greafing games with "Experimental builds", imagine you are in your rank up game 2 wins - 2 loses...then comes the Sion mid trying to jungle...throws the game because the other team actualy knows how to play, you dont rank up not because of yourself, but because some dude that got banned wants to play in a "different" way
@HexJK
Жыл бұрын
@@GrEEnF1Re1 I agree, there's no place for "experimenting" in ranked. It's for competitive play where winning is the goal, not fun. Normals is where people should be trying new stuff out.
For a moment I thought 3 jungler in a team, with mid laner as a late get jungler after 15 min.
its ok T1 just started doing this strat in his matches....if they don't ban him and they ban you.....
It’s a really simple answer: forcing 4 other players to adapt to an unusual playstyle and having to play around it is very frustrating
What happened to the 3 smite jungle thing?
In low elo you need a duo ADC to do this strat, its impossible with a random player from the soloq.
Yeah, the guy who is innovating gets banned but the player who wishes death onto others is just fine. Riot is incompetent…
Love this. The only person salty enough to report you would be the ADC and maybe jungler if he can't farm. Overall great performance, love the new strategies :)
11:55 you have 3 snacks and 22 stacks jungle item. 12:23 you also have 22 stacks jungle item and only 1 snack. who steal 2 snacks?
5:13 did that sion line say "I do not breed"
Commenting for that sweet engagement
@Tilterella
Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated and needed rn tbh
6:28 "this guy thinks our junglers top side" what the gp is actually thinking GP: ORANGES!
Maybe because it's an extremely toxic gameplay, stealing resources from every single one of your teammates is going to annoy them, they don't give a fuck about your "crazy" gameplay, they just wanna play the game.
thanks for the commentated guide as always
When is The Spicy Noodle's next adventure?!?
People believe there's one set formula to winning and climbing, and when you don't adhere to their idea of it, they think it's a personal affront to their efforts to win
I can see how an adc would get mad when they pick an adc with a hard landing phase and they have to 2 vs 1
Cuz change is good but only if the "pros" do it. But the "pros" are so set in their ways that there will be no actual grand strategy change in the game. It would be hard and risky to do something like that.
dayum you almost finished smite pet as well
ty my support inted playing this
maaaan you have got to tell me you're actually familiar with that theme song barely audible in the beggining and that you intentionally put it there. brooo i now hear the second one. you've gotta be a zero hour player, there's no way this is just some random theme you have on the background
@Tilterella
Жыл бұрын
It’s technically generals
What is this overlay on his screen? Rune timers? Ward locations?
Because its annoying to play with "unique" playstyles on your team, and its annoying to deal with them on enemy team.
Don't get me wrong, I love this strat. Watching Tilt completely taking the enemy jg out of the whole game makes me feel ill XD
I litterally had a game the other day where I was playing jungle and I litterally had to face 2 people going jungle xD
Somebody at rito needs to ban this man from gettin banned
How do you contest an account that was permanly banned?
Bro put Generals C&Q music over a league of legends video 💀
I'm not saying streamers/youtubers should get special treatment, but maybe riot should take a little closer look at cases around them given the extra "attention" they so often receive, particularly in your case lol
@nazann
Жыл бұрын
That does nothing but hide the problem...
@Zeequals
Жыл бұрын
@@nazannI'm not certain what you're talking about, I'm referring to the problem of streamers and youtubers who get targeted by people that don't like them. By double checking those cases, that's not hiding anything
@Zeequals
Жыл бұрын
@Catty I can understand that, however the problem originates where they assume he's trolling and either counter-troll or dodge constantly when he has proven for months that the strat works. I'm not saying you don't have a point, but the egg came before the chicken in this case
@Zeequals
Жыл бұрын
@Catty his win rate on his main is about 50/50 last I checked including the learning phase where most were lost because he hadn’t got the play style down yet, cut those out and it’s a solid win rate
I used to do this on my bronze games
I believe it's because you go like this without telling the adc in advance after maybe you know the person and i'm a duch
Imagine admitting he did nothing wrong and then permabanning him. Riot, you're so wrong.
@Tiagocf2
Жыл бұрын
just riot being riot
this is peak league of legends entertainment
why does my "unique" playstyle keep getting hate/bans? "unique" playstyle is abandoning botlane and forcing the rest of your team to work around your annoying hyperagro just to bully out the enemy jg using an annoying champion in an annoying strat that pisses everyone off hell i got annoyed watching this. I get it if you're in a party and want to use this or even in a duo with the ADC but even then its just an asshole move
"we are unable to lift your ban at this time. I'm sorry that we cannot do anything about it" Yes. When can you EVER do anything about something, Riot?
I had some guys in my game doing smite bot lane emulating your strat, even asking if i know your channel which i do, i watch and i like them and i understand them. These guys went bot Sion and Twitch i was like ok sounds interesting. Was thinking they would perma be warding and taking his bot side then running to lane and catching that. They didnt actually do very much enemy jg taking and harassing, but also didnt really lane, instead trying to gank lanes, so got really down in levels. Eventually started smite stealing camps i was doing on our side, and when i asked them to stop they started all chatting that i should be reported for toxicity. People can take them and turn them into really bad experiences for others. This is probably a rare case as ive never had it before or since but it was just so random because i know your content and i know you definitely dont purposefully do toxic stuff that that, yet they were citing your content as the basis of their behaviors. Yikes lmao
What a great gift
I know how to fix the toxicity in LOL in a certain area... Riot needs to make smite only obtainable for the Jungle role. ez. (Ofc if you dont like jgl and want to trade then role switch or something)
How do your teammates have jungle camp names and you have krug? Is that their actual names or something?
if having 2 people with smite can get you ban then why the hell does the game allow you to take smite without being assigned jungler? like it gave you the options and being banned for it feels so dumb. In fact, league lets you put anything on any champion and yet you're banned for trying to experiment or even get creative with the way you play the game and now you're forced to build what the pro's are building or else it's throwing. hate it here
why ?because its super fun to see your toplaner be 0/8 when the plates fall and also its very fun to beat the ever living shit out of your oponent just for him to somehow come out on top
If everyone is a jungler, then no one is.
Riot: "We would like to embrace diversity", Also Riot: "But only our kind diversity".
Wreck It Ralph !
If your Eve is 3 deaths in at 7 minutes, you don't have a jungler. Playing vs heavy invade strats is hard tho, cannae blame the eve for this one.
Only showing the good parts and just cutting out everything else just throws any credibility out the window man ): 12:20 is what I'm referring to btw.
Good video, though I'm sad the thumbnail was clickbait. Only 2 players in the team with smite :P
Unsurprisingly the League community is, as always, refusing to accept any strategy that isn't what they want.
Theres a few reasons for this. When people have to think for themselves and cant just look up a guide it makes them feel like shit, also when you lose to something that isnt meta you can no longer blame the champ for being op and have to blame yourself for your bad play
1. Diamonds are THE most toxic community in league. 2. It's not the playstyle, it's simply when you are winning. 3. I didn't see much uniqueness here, but entertaining for sure.
C&C music. My man!
The sponsor program reminds me of the old og warcraft world editor. That's what made warcraft so famous. They gave the players the ability to create their own custom maps and post them online. From literally emulated lol map to the classic dota. All were created in warcraft world editor. Most of the best concepts. Like tower defense and so one. Game modes that branch now on their own on steam or a different separate game . Like dota 2 from the predecessor dota 1. Legion tower defense. A different game on steam and so on so forth. Blizzard did made as new policy to the reforge Warcraft so people won't benefit from the maps. Now like the true communist fashion. All the maps you creat belongs to Blizzard entertainment. So yeah they screw up big time. But I digress. The point it is good to see another engine providing you with the freedom world editor used to give you.
The reason a lot of these strats get a ton of hate. Is because you are doing it with random people. And so I highly doubt someone was ready to play a 1v2 bot the entire game while you fuck around and hope to god your team helps you with your shit that you are doing. Because being honest. If your team didn't help you early with your invade. The game woulda been lost and snowballed with a Riven or an EVE getting early kills. Dumb shit works when you coordinate it, but getting lucky doing a strat and posting it to youtube and telling people it gets flamed is the big brain content creator play.
damn even being a member of the riot companionship, you get banned no question ask
Perma Banned? On a absolutely off meta pick main? I feel my support singed senses tingling
This man is playing support 4 in League I just realized (for those who don't know it's a dota2 term)