Why do the Taliban and ISIS Hate Each Other? | Islamist Civil War in Afghanistan 2014-2021
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The Taliban were until their recent victory in August 2021, the largest Islamist movement in Afghanistan, though since 2014 they've been competing with ISIS-K, a branch of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria active in Afghanistan and the surrounding countries. But why do these two movements, who seemingly share such a similar fundamentalist and extreme interpretation of political Islam, hate one another so much?
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:38 - Al-Qaeda vs ISIS
4:08 - MagellanTV Ad
4:56 - Start of the ISIS-Taliban War
7:40 - ISIS Retreat
8:36 - ISIS Regroup in the North
10:50 - A Lingering Threat
14:05 - The Future of the ISIS-Taliban War
15:40 - Outro
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It’s kind of mind-blowing that even the Taliban think that ISIS are psychos.
@usmanzafar4751
2 жыл бұрын
And Al Qaeda thinks Taliban are barbarians!!!
@seanhastings4432
2 жыл бұрын
@@usmanzafar4751 They basically looked down on all Afghans in general. Classic prejudice. But yeah, the Taliban scared them.
@pinpointshooter6074
2 жыл бұрын
@@usmanzafar4751 they have very relationship with each other...
@redacted7060
2 жыл бұрын
@@pinpointshooter6074 al-qaeda stop supporting the Taliban for some reason
@mappingshaman5280
2 жыл бұрын
@@usmanzafar4751 al qaeda doesn't think the taliban are barbarians, if they did they wouldn't be celebrating the taliban victory in Afghanistan
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend." Taliban: I think the fuck not.
@swidswid8389
2 жыл бұрын
It is the opposite. Quite literally.
@belkYT
Жыл бұрын
USA during the soviet afghan war: The enemy of my enemy IS my friend. Period. *Few years later* USA: wait no
@ma-saracen
Жыл бұрын
@@belkYT They just used them for the cold war. When they needed Opuim and Oil they used them again as a reason.
@leitodamien3835
Жыл бұрын
The taliban has learn that it cuts both way.
@takiz8667
Жыл бұрын
@@ma-saracen No to get back against the soviets for Vietnam
As a Muslim man it hurts me that my religion is viewed as a bunch of terrorists when in reality these idiots are a small portion of us that we don’t claim. Hopefully these groups end up being wiped or collapsing and the violence stops
@alien3771
6 ай бұрын
I feel you man ...I really do..
@giftedtheos
Ай бұрын
There are so many of these kinds of groups in the Muslim world which is why people can't help but associate them with Islam
@ZhiwaJ
27 күн бұрын
The fact that Taliban fights ISIS shows that Islam is not the problem if they were truly following islam they wouldn’t fight
@Vincenture
18 күн бұрын
The issue all of these groups came from the time of the soviet afghan war if that war never happened the US and the rest of the capitalist world wouldnt have funded these radical groups who would later get a foothold on afghanistan and spread their crazy ideology. @@giftedtheos
@whysoserious7553
6 күн бұрын
Your religion is sick man
My humanities professor visited Afghanistan in 2007, He was fortunate enough to interview members of the Taliban, he was welcomed and treated with respect in the small village he settled in for 3 days, he was vetted before he conducted his interview, he was not allowed to record/film anything, for obvious reasons, but he said it was by far one of the most educational experience he’s ever had about the Muslim world. He didn’t feel threatened at all but he was also very open minded about what they had to say and their beliefs.
@luke_fabis
Жыл бұрын
Okay, but what did he learn?
@ricardobobo1
Жыл бұрын
Lol f*** the Taliban.
@johnappleseed9290
Жыл бұрын
A lot about their ideology he didn’t really go into detail, he generally summarized his experience very neutrally, it was a big class and he didn’t want to risk offending anyone. It’s a sensitive topic bud, you’ll find hard to believe this, but he legit had 2 Muslim students drop the class for the fact he went to interview them, idk why, I don’t care why. He did say he learned a lot about the soviet intervention in the 70s and how all that rooted in place to what the taliban is now.
@johnappleseed9290
Жыл бұрын
Also it was 15 years ago, my memory is shot to Sh*t from that discussion, I just remember a few things. Not a whole lot
@Ahmar312
Жыл бұрын
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Afghanistan is basically a free for all King of Kabul game since the 90ies. Taliban is leading in points an NATO just ragequit
@ientrancedi
2 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s surprisingly effective
@erpizzaiol5457
2 жыл бұрын
The oldest anarchy server...
@jacoburban5736
2 жыл бұрын
There is peace and sharia … so effectively setting Afghanistan back into the dark age
@jacoburban5736
2 жыл бұрын
@Taiki hiko If people are killing themselves less that's nothing someone rational can get mad at...So no I'm not mad if that's the case. But walahi any place where you apply sharia law is going to take the place backwards not forwards academically... we will see what unfolds.
@baldrickthedungspreader3107
2 жыл бұрын
Well since the 80s then the Soviet Union rage quit
The Muslim World is just like an endless series of World of Warcraft expansions.
@observeurr
2 жыл бұрын
The world* the TB wouldn’t have existed if they wouldn’t have been bothered, and IS wouldn’t have existed if it weren’t for the west
@bobbobbers7486
2 жыл бұрын
@@observeurr while I agree with your sentiment (I.E the U.S has brought this onto themselves through destructive foreign policy and murder of innocent civilians) historically speaking what you are saying is not true.
@tythorn13
2 жыл бұрын
@@observeurr The Islamic State definitely would of existed without the west.
@jacowatki152
2 жыл бұрын
@@tythorn13 no kzread.info/dash/bejne/oq6hsZiLh9yXpps.html
@furrywarriors
2 жыл бұрын
@@tythorn13 ISIS was literally a reaction to the US invasion of Iraq, the Syrian civil war, and ultimately the Sykes-Picot borders and European meddling in the Middle East since the age of Imperialism and the Cold War
'Why do they hate each other?" Because the leaders of both want to rule and gain the power and wealth that comes with it. Neither side care about Islam, it's just a means to an end.
@FahadFSA
Жыл бұрын
That is brilliantly put!
@Ahmar312
Жыл бұрын
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@cooldude-mi9wz
Жыл бұрын
Taliban isnt so bad. Comon.
@officialdash303yt7
Жыл бұрын
”Power corrupt us all"
@zoybean
Жыл бұрын
@ا ب ت ث you are khawarij
The difference between ISIS and Taliban is that the Taliban has had enough time to develop a separate political apparatus to its armed forces - they simply arent just warlords but governments (as illegitimate as it may be) in their own right. ISIS on the other hand are just an amalgamation of warlords
@NorthernNorthdude91749
Жыл бұрын
I'd say the Taliban is pretty darn legitimate, seeing as they're the ONLY government.
@sub7se7en
Жыл бұрын
Why is the Taliban illegitimate?
@chesterdonnelly1212
Жыл бұрын
The Taliban is the legitimate government of Afghanistan.
@mhk906
Жыл бұрын
The taliban formed to fight off warlords that were above punishment and they’re still at it 😂
@OK-yy6qz
Жыл бұрын
They're legit government right now in Afghanistan
So much war in Afghanistan it’s so insane and sad for the civilians people who just wanted peace in their country.
@ishrendon6435
2 жыл бұрын
Well the US and soviet union in the 70s amd 80s created the war hence the cold war. Blame mainly white people lets not forget colonialism. We'll never forget imagine how colored peoples amcestors feel just stop your leaders everytime they wamt to invade another country for so called humanitarian reasons lol or white imperialism
@historywithhilbert146
2 жыл бұрын
Truly sad really, let's hope there will be stability soon :/
@cormacdonnelly365
2 жыл бұрын
@@ishrendon6435 Hot take
@captainclarky5352
2 жыл бұрын
@@historywithhilbert146 Stability now means Taliban control over Afghanistan for the forseeable future. Stability are not inherently good. Only justice can bring real peace
@thewingedhussar4188
2 жыл бұрын
@@historywithhilbert146 I say the USA hops back in some time in the future
IS-K might be more correct to use since ISIS-K would mean Islamic State of Iraq and Syria-Khorasan meanwhile IS-K means Islamic State-Korasan
@Nabium
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but that's what they call themselves. If you don't like it you gotta complain to the terror organisation, not the media outlets :P
@anaxagoras2930
2 жыл бұрын
Ehh, like most Western understandings of the Muslim world. It’s incredibly over simplified on purpose
@alchemist7525
2 жыл бұрын
@@Nabium they call themselves IS tho, nothing else
@Nabium
2 жыл бұрын
@FEAR KCP I can't find a single source for that. I can only find quotes of ISIL members calling it either just Wilayah Khorasan, or calling it daish.
@fuzzydunlop7928
2 жыл бұрын
I use Daesh because it seems the more widely-accepted moniker by the people actually having to deal with them.
Nothing but sympathy for the civilians of Afghanistan. Many tourists, American, European and Asian all talk of how kind the Afghanis are. They talk about how many Afghanis won’t take your money and insist on giving you what you want, as you are a guest in their country
@bumpyinspace_
Жыл бұрын
I have sympathy for them too, but your claim about the people just giving you whatever you want and not wanting your money is not the least bit accurate. The majority of them live in poverty and people will frequently approach you and ask for money
@zobius9191
Жыл бұрын
@@bumpyinspace_ Just like in our society, the poorest of the poor will beg with no shame.
@bumpyinspace_
Жыл бұрын
@@zobius9191 but unlike our society, the majority of afghans live in abject poverty and have absolutely nothing. Additionally, if you are an obvious foreigner, you can’t stay in one location too long or members of the Taliban will come and interrogate you/ detain you. Your description is just not a good representation of Afghanis
@Ahmar312
Жыл бұрын
india created islamic state khorasan province. india funds islamic state khorasan province
@Ahmar312
Жыл бұрын
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One correction, the US drone strikes in response to the ISK bomb didn't hit militants. It murdered an entire innocent family
@joelhungerford8388
11 ай бұрын
Theyd be militants now
@Messup7654
2 ай бұрын
Even though it’s probably true is that actually true?
"excuse me, are you the Judean people's front?" "**** off! we're the people's front of Judea!"
@Saayko
2 жыл бұрын
SPLITTER!
@firstconsul7286
2 жыл бұрын
"Judean People's Front suicide attack, go!"
@solgato5186
2 жыл бұрын
yes, but plot twist: it's intentional
@8523tiger
2 жыл бұрын
@@solgato5186 "fu*king splitters"!
@patrickmcglonejr8163
2 жыл бұрын
Lol I was hoping sum1 would make a Life of Brian reference
Afghans don’t draw their flag, they write it.
@firstconsul7286
2 жыл бұрын
I mean, that's unironically accurate, something about images of Mohammad being wrong, so they write stuff instead.
@uniuni8855
2 жыл бұрын
Sigma males
@aytj2073
2 жыл бұрын
@@uniuni8855 sigma taliban, defeats beta USA
@briefersrock4591
2 жыл бұрын
@@aytj2073 Beta USA can't do much against Sigma Taliban's ✌️🗿.
@abdalrrahim
2 жыл бұрын
@@firstconsul7286 it's not just Mohammad pbah . the act of imitating life is a sin in Islam that is why mosques are not decorated with paintings and statues like a church . so we developed our skills in geometry and fonts to decorate mosques in fascinating ways without images.
It's like the old popular saying "You either die a villain.. or live long enough for a branch of you to split off creating a bigger villain and you end up a hero in comparison."
A very informative video. Good job and thank you.
bloody hell, what an absolute shit show. my heart goes out to the folk who just want to live their lives in peace.
@TheLostArchangel666
2 жыл бұрын
@Ballah 666 Yes, they do.
@TheLostArchangel666
2 жыл бұрын
@Ballah 666 I'm not claiming, or at least not trying to claim, that every person in the region has no desires beyond "living their life in peace" - what I'm saying, and what the original comment is saying, is that there most certainly are a fair few people in that region who desire just that: To no longer live their lives in a warzone where they're at constant risk of getting shot, bombed or otherwise murdered, be it by the US and its allies or by these radical, far-right Islamist groups that the US helped kickstart in order to thwart the USSR during the cold war. A fair few of them also carry a grudge. I'd argue that given how hard they got screwed over, that's quite reasonable too. I don't think its particularly productive, but I can definitely understand it. And I also suspect that for most of them, the desire to not get killed in a warzone again outweighs the grudge they've got. I sure as hell hope so at least. Otherwise this mess is only going to get worse still. And its already more than bad enough as is.
@saf4433
2 жыл бұрын
It's an Islamic county, by law you can't live your life in peace because there's no freedom of speech, opinion or religion and those that don't conform to the social norms get punished.
@saf4433
2 жыл бұрын
@s2276 Malaysia is secular to a degree, Afghanistan is not. How would someone be treated if they left Islam? How would a Muslim woman be treated if she married a non Muslim man? How would someone be treated if they criticized Islam? What happens to someone from a Muslim family if they came out as LGBT? I'm from Afghanistan, I grew up in a Muslim household, you probably did too, so let's not bullshit ourselves and admit that if Islamic law was implemented people wouldn't have much individual freedom
@saf4433
2 жыл бұрын
@s2276 I'm not talking about how we were raised, I just brought that up to confirm we both know Islamic law, my family wasn't strict either. What I'm talking about is how much personal freedom one has under a nation that strictly follows Islam, which honestly isn't much. And as for the questions I asked, you should answer all of them and you'll get what I mean, as for the one question you answered, I accept that and I agree, unfortunately that doesn't mean much when 95% of Muslims believe otherwise and would happily go chop chop, same criticism. But that's besides the point
"When proven wrong, the wise man will correct himself and the ignorant will keep arguing" - Ali ibn Abi Talib
@goingmonotheist783
2 жыл бұрын
Abi... Talib 😂
@bayern1445
2 жыл бұрын
Taliban are the ones im rooting for
@pinpointshooter6074
2 жыл бұрын
👍👍🦾🦾🦾
@maazali1338
2 жыл бұрын
@@goingmonotheist783 talib means student
@goingmonotheist783
2 жыл бұрын
@@maazali1338 عارف 😇
Feels like no matter how many videos I watch about this part of the world, I never feel like I understand it much better than before. But still thank you for this video. Very educational
@Krahamus
Жыл бұрын
To sum up shortly, Al Quada and ISIS are terrorist groups, but ISIS wants to be ruling one so Al Quada would be under ISIS control which did not agree so they fight who is ruling one, also both of them wage holy war against Christians, bomb and kill their own people who are disbeliever of this or who do not agree, they're intention is to make havoc everywhere, in other hand Taliban purpose is to control Afganistan as Government with strict Islamic laws, they not declared any holy wars on west because its not they're main objective, they fight ISIS because they are fanatic group and they destabilize everything where they come, and want to controll everything and wage this holy war and push this mentality everywhere witch taliban does not agree with.
@BLOCKBOI3RD
Жыл бұрын
It's seems like tribal problems that have been going on forever. They just keep coming up with different reasons to beef.
@kraigisboss
Жыл бұрын
@@BLOCKBOI3RD Honestly hate to say it but this might be the best description of the history of the region.
@BLOCKBOI3RD
Жыл бұрын
@@kraigisboss backwards culture is keeping them behind
@berznji3000
10 ай бұрын
Study Islamic history and get to know the Umayyad empire vs the Abbasid empire. It will bring you closer at least. History can connect many dots.
Very fascinating video. Very informative. Keep up the good work.
@Ahmar312
Жыл бұрын
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Take a shot of whiskey every time he says the word “Taliban”
@pjbyrne1997
2 жыл бұрын
Probably be more appropriate to smoke a hit of opium.
@KarryKarryKarry
2 жыл бұрын
Modern people don’t smoke opium. But they do do heroin!
@rickmisnich2097
2 жыл бұрын
@@KarryKarryKarry pop a vicodine for every Taliban?
@choonbox
2 жыл бұрын
One mustn't shot whiskey, tf
@slin2903
2 жыл бұрын
Take a shot if he says isis or Taliban
The video needs to be updated - the part about the USA conducting a drone strike against IS militants. Thats been proven to be inaccurate. The man was a US aid worker unloading water jugs from his car. The strike killed him along with 7 of his children.
@NaViAgain-ts9lj
2 жыл бұрын
@@name_dropper8112 yes
@luppi5152
2 жыл бұрын
Was that the video of the USA helicopter open firing on the camera crew and then when they civilian van arrived to help they shot that up and a soldier found a child gravely injured and they weren't even gonna medi vac it
@tbaymufon6448
2 жыл бұрын
@@luppi5152 No, it was the recent one put out by the NY Times. It really goes to prove this administrations incompetency
@chaosXP3RT
2 жыл бұрын
Kinda funny how the US news covered that story. If they hadn't, you wouldn't even know about it
@thesauce1682
2 жыл бұрын
US is a diverse country, only because their 1% is a warmonger, doesn't mean the citizen is the same. That's why there's divide in the US
Thanks for this great piece of history knowledge
@Ahmar312
Жыл бұрын
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Thanks for explaining this
"Who are u" "IMU" - Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan Sorry I couldn't help it.
@kingdomofprussia5846
2 жыл бұрын
Thats actually good!
@bo4Elite
2 жыл бұрын
No you!!!
@shubh.bapi_9423
2 жыл бұрын
@@bo4Elite Dang boi!!!🙏👍👍👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣
@mohamedouhibi5389
2 жыл бұрын
no, IM me! who are YOU?
@aquarian-talk
2 жыл бұрын
Ha!
Correction, we didn't kill any militants in that missile strike after the airport bombing. We killed 10 civillians including 7 children
@Kriegter
2 жыл бұрын
This isn't something new civilians have been killed in drone strikes since 2001
@georgelincolnrockwell4659
2 жыл бұрын
@@Kriegter Started under Obama. Trump stopped it. Then Biden is continuing where Obama left of
@Bullboy_Adventures
2 жыл бұрын
You saw an opportunity to preach trumpology and you took it
@georgelincolnrockwell4659
2 жыл бұрын
@@Bullboy_Adventures Trump won 2020 by a landslide.
@xHTxRaptorF22
2 жыл бұрын
@@georgelincolnrockwell4659 Keep telling yourself that bud. Whatever makes you feel better
This is excellent historical knowledge. ✌️
very insightful
My favorite part of this video is that in all of the media you do not hear of any of this at all and now they are claiming ISIS and the Taliban are allies against the US when they would rather work with the US than each other and do not even know how bad the system is between the fighters and their politicians on both sides. Thank you for this video it explains a lot about the conflict that answers some things for me that the news apparently could not figure out.
@irisradujkov3588
2 жыл бұрын
!
@nssupremacy_4281
2 жыл бұрын
Recent wars infos is hard to get nowadays, how tf is that possible? Double agents?
@Coltavena
2 жыл бұрын
Only people I would pay any mind to are actual soldiers that fought there. If they say those guys were fighting against America in unison than that's all I need to know. It's extremely arrogant to pretend we know when if we never laid boots on that ground and witnessed it.
@ralphlamy6842
2 жыл бұрын
You are correct, the news does this with everything. Instead of providing details they give the simple version which leads to problems.
@ralphlamy6842
2 жыл бұрын
@@nssupremacy_4281 The information is out there. Where do you think this video got its information.
I wish you had mentioned that a drone strike after the Kabul attack actually killed children and aid workers transporting water, not militia. The US recently 'apologized' for the oversight.
@Nawabid
2 жыл бұрын
The apologies are never given any attention....... Like the gold and money story (proven fake by taliban media spokesman) found in Amrullah Saleh house
@woekoa
2 жыл бұрын
@@Nawabid this is funny as fuck
@Nawabid
2 жыл бұрын
@@woekoa it was lol
@youssafsu2307
Жыл бұрын
@@Nawabid Your might have to change your profile name...
@Nawabid
Жыл бұрын
@@youssafsu2307 come again?
Fantastic video!
Thank you for the video
US: We don’t negotiate with terrorists. Hilbert: Hold this video.
@alqaeda7040
2 жыл бұрын
American government is the biggest terrorist organisation,so yes
@ThePunisher014
Жыл бұрын
We don't negotiate with terrorists. We only create them and fund them.
@rahatzaman8120
Жыл бұрын
It's because thier definition of "terrorist" changes according to the need of US defence policy .
@curtisthomas2670
Жыл бұрын
Updated version: "We don't negotiate with terrists. We fund them or turn a blind eye to our middle eastern allies who fund them"
@Ahmar312
Жыл бұрын
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The answer is fairly obvious. One group solemnly believes it is a shoe. The other group is utterly convinced it is a sandal.
@slevinchannel7589
2 жыл бұрын
So, what now? What now is the question... Some has to re-start the war in one shape or another, seeing how they need to be stopped, duh. Those literal, genuine Barbarians plan to solidify and then spread Misogny and even by their own direct (chillingly casual!!!) admittance: Stoning and such as a Law-System. ??
@kronos01ful
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@Ahmar312
Жыл бұрын
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@stephenkalatucka6213
Жыл бұрын
Go Chimpokemon! Defeat the evil power! I choose Shoe! 👞
Excellent explanation.
i love how to "most replayed" part of the video is the skipping of sponsor XD
The main reason for the Al-Qaeda relationship with the Taliban is because of the tribal ties due to marriage, since many foreigner Arabs came to Pashtun Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion and married into the tribes, which afforded them certain tribal rights and protections. This is why this new generation of Al-Qaeda doesn't care for the Taliban anymore, those ties are largely a thing of the past, outside of the senior leadership of AQ
@utopia4056
Жыл бұрын
I hate saying this, but that's what went wrong with that gangs in thr US.... once is spirals out of control there isn't much to do.
@Ahmar312
Жыл бұрын
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@Meffrgtikiii
Жыл бұрын
I am from Afghanistan and this is simply untrue. the taliban had no interest in al qaeda, it defined itself as an Afghan/regional power not interested in foreign issues. Adding to that Pashtun women do not marry outside due to tribal allegiances. The Taliban did not care about Al Qaeda they cared about not looking like a puppet and giving protection to guests
@RoyalRahim
Жыл бұрын
@@MeffrgtikiiiPashtun women do marry outside. Many of my Punjabi family have married Pashtuns. Tribal allegiances aren’t as important anymore
@akiogood4712
Жыл бұрын
@@RoyalRahimwhy do you lie lol
The Taleban are a nationalistic movement and does not care much for what happens outside the borders of Afghanistan. Ideologically speaking they are different too. The Taleban are hanafi and have Sufi tendencies much like the rest of the people of Afghanistan, although they are more strict in their understanding of the shariah. As for isis they are salafis and they have virtually no support amongst the people of Afghanistan. Also, Fata is a territory inside Pakistan, but whose people are tribal Afghans.
@mahamedjmal2536
2 жыл бұрын
Isis are not salafis. Salafis or ahl hadith are orthodox. Calling isis salafis is dangerous to orthodox Muslims. Isis are kharijis
@matikhorasani3842
2 жыл бұрын
@@mahamedjmal2536 Isis are the violent version of the pacifist salafis. It is the salafi thought that has enabled the ideologies of Al qaeda and isis.
@Omer1996E.C
2 жыл бұрын
@@matikhorasani3842 i don't agree that isis is salafi, although they call themselves like this
@yp3776
2 жыл бұрын
@@mahamedjmal2536 salafis are people who don’t follow the four imams so you can say they are salafis however taliban are deobandis
@Omer1996E.C
2 жыл бұрын
@@rumeysaolkay it's not according to Wikipedia or whatever
Great video
The level or greediness in this world is of another level.Two freedom fighters and both hate each other and yet claiming they fight for the same course.
@Krkak4985
11 ай бұрын
You seem wrong! They don't fight for the same course. And IS-K is not freedom fighters
one of the best history youtubers iv found keep up the great research, scripting and visuals
@Ahmar312
Жыл бұрын
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@leanbodysecret457
Жыл бұрын
His research is painstaking.
*AS AN AFGHAN WHO CAME FROM THE DURANI DYNASTY, FAMILIAR WITH THE HISTORY OF AFGHANISTAN 🇦🇫, THIS VIDEO DID A DECENT JOB OF BEING 90% ACCURATE... BY FAR THE BEST IN KZread.*
@Nawabid
2 жыл бұрын
@PaniK What? You ok?
@Nawabid
2 жыл бұрын
@PaniK Not only have I "seen" them but I was with them in Panjshir..............
@Nawabid
2 жыл бұрын
@PaniK MORDAGOWi runs in your blood...
@Nawabid
2 жыл бұрын
@PaniK I am also Ahl Al-bayt........ LOL Dude just stop trust me, So selling your madars kuss is ok? Islamically speaking
@Nawabid
2 жыл бұрын
@PaniK Bro the Taliban are wahhabis NOT MUSLIM..... Look at the Flags of Saudi Arabia (A HUB FOR WAHHABI) then look at the flag of Taliban.... Then look at the flag of ISIS who they support.. on ISIS flag it just says "RASOUL MUHAMMAD" Thats a blatant disrespect to the prophet lol What did the prophet (blessings and peace be upon him) do one one day when we was about to step up to the membar?? When he took the last 3 steps he S.A.W. he replied "AMEN, AMEN, AMEN". later the sahabi asked him, when took the membar he did something he normally never did, HE SAID "JIBEREL A.S. CURSED 3 TYPES OF PEOPLE AND I VOUCHED THEM" WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE CURSED BY JIBREEL A.S. AND THE PROPHET PBUH AFFIRMED??? When the name of the Prophet is mentioned and they don't say these simple words :"Sallallahu alaihi wasallam" Jibreels curse is on that man and I affirm it. ISIS on purpose wrote "Rasoul MUAHMMAD" look any hadiths and any other writings when the prophets name is mentioned you will see "Sallallahu alaihi wasallam". The people you SUPPORT call my family of SAYEDS a "KAFIR"...lol
Wow this is surprisingly informative. Keep up the good work man.
@historywithhilbert146
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Ahmar312
Жыл бұрын
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Good stuff 👍🏼☝🏼
"...When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing can stand in their way. Their movements become headlong - faster and faster and faster. They put aside all thoughts of obstacles and forget the precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late..." Bene Gesserit Coda
@terrellbarrett3758
2 жыл бұрын
Rrŕrrrrŕrŕŕrdŕf
@125discipline2
2 жыл бұрын
taliban are mostly political, they use religion as moral boost.
@JohnDoe-qz5pj
2 жыл бұрын
@@125discipline2 Anything to help your precious fucking Islam save face, right?
@musakaxi3036
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and without it superpowers can just nuke the fuck outta their enemies 🤣🤣
@gh0rochi363
2 жыл бұрын
Neither of these sides use actual religious law. They make up the the law and throw in some Muslim things in the middle like not drinking etc. then they say they are following shariah (when they most certainly aren’t)
I love how you work hard to pronounce foreign words. You sir are a treasure to the KZread community with your brief history and animations. Thanks a bunch!
@Ahmar312
Жыл бұрын
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@St0ckwell
10 ай бұрын
He got the pronunciation wrong though. That is not the native pronunciation of alqaeda.
@FactStorm
10 ай бұрын
I speak Arabic, and if a non-Arabic speaker is saying it, we don't expect them to pronounce it on point. What matters is the English pronunciation in this case.@@St0ckwell
There are differences of ideologies between ISIS and Taliban. These ideologies that makes majority of Muslim supports Taliban but not ISIS. ISIS kills anyone that is not professing Islam and those who do not support their causes. If you are a Muslim (meaning someone that professes Islam), but you do not support their cause, you can be ruled out by them as non-muslim, meaning that your blood is 'halal' to be spilled by them. This of course contradicted with the teaching of Quran and hadis of prophet Muhammad S.A.W. Isis took pieces of quranic recitation and hadis that seems to legalised their causes and brainwash the youth for radicalism while at the same time abandoning the rest of the quranic recitation that forbid forcing other people to accept Islam. Meanwhile, Taliban fights for the freedom of Afghanistan, but at the same time following Quran and hadis very strictly. You wont be killed just because you are a non-muslim. When ISIS rose to power, the controlled area of Taliban in Afghanistan were further reduced and obliterated because people started to have separate ideologies. Hence, they fought against each other.
@Ahmad_55773
Жыл бұрын
the difference is ISIS kill any one who don't join them and we moslims prefer the white colour that the other niled black
@rikkithinn7258
Жыл бұрын
That is a lie, they do not deem unsupportive Muslims as unbelievers, if that was the case they'd be bombing in downtown Sunni cities, which they don't, you have lied. As for taking verses and leaving some, then this is literally what all Muslims scholars do to derive rulings, as one newer verses override the older, a verse in Surat At-Tawbah (The verse of the Sword) is taken over Surat Al-Kafirun for example, and there is no difference of opinion amongst the scholars of this religion regarding this, that Surat Al-Kafirun is abrogated. so again you are ignorant, spreading ignorance. Stay on video games and anime, better than speaking of what you do not know, you never know which wrong word will land you in the Hellfire.
@disastrous5556
Жыл бұрын
Stop lying, Sheikh Al-Adnani said he will defend the Sunnis even if they hate it , taliban Protect Shias Who Insult Prophet wife and imam malik said The land in which Abu Bakr and Omar are insulted cannot live in it , it Looks like U don't know anything About islam
@shinx9523
Жыл бұрын
Isis use Islam as a scape way to kill people for no reason
@marwanshaibi4304
Жыл бұрын
@@disastrous5556 sheikh al adnani also said anyone who fight isis is falling in ridda. Look at شمس الدين videos part 1 and 2 about isis where he destroy they're flawed contradicting values.
Funfact: Alqueda was the name of Laden family house in Yemen So when Osama came in Afghanistan he named his place Alqueda and welcomed everyone as his guests including arab and foreign mujhadeens
Good job dude. Very informative video.
15:31 Lol it's funny how you made speech bubbles on the terrorists in the outro 😂😂😂
Enlightening
Admire you for being able to pull together a cohesive timeline from all this confusing history.
Loving these very modern topics. Good explanation of complicated realities.
@Ahmar312
Жыл бұрын
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Thanks for sharing this information. Very intresting stuff. Great video.
Have been forgetting to watch this for a month. Was watching an interview with Pastor Ssempa. Saw the moving text below about the Haram and the Boko and the organization of it. Finally see this video and remember to watch. That one is mentioned here too. The text said 22 fighters were unalived in Nigeria
The fact this war in Afghanistan has been going on for decades is just sad and pathetic. I don’t think these countries will honestly ever be the same with constant war happening 🤦🏽♂️
Good stuff! You're bringing relatively unknown information to eager info-seekers :)
@slevinchannel7589
2 жыл бұрын
VICE and Wisecrack do the same...
@commenttuff8891
Жыл бұрын
@@slevinchannel7589 that’s western propaganda lol
14:44 By drone striking 7 children and an aid worker, admitted by Marine Gen. Frank McKenzie
@juanguzman9031
2 жыл бұрын
What a terrible accident! I imagine if this was a more common practice the taliban would have unending support from the families of these victims
@jupiter1789
2 жыл бұрын
@@juanguzman9031 accident? I don't think so
@joling0
2 жыл бұрын
@@juanguzman9031 They are already largely supported by the rural parts of Afghanistan, drone strikes like the one mentioned in the video were common place in daily life.
@cornbreadfedkirkpatrick9647
2 жыл бұрын
You know they train their children to kill just like in Vietnam so it's sad knowing you're trying to help a child knowing one might pull out an uzi on you at any moment or denote an IED with a cell phone while your back is turned, I didn't learn that about Viet name until I was older I did throw up for about 20 minutes after my first brother in law told me, and that was after I asked him about it after a show on PBS.
@kbm2055
2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure those are two different incidents in different parts of the country.
3:16 you really went to town in that text XD
Great Intel report. As salamu alaykum ❤
Realllly great video it actually helps to understand the important details while sifting through the bullshit, please keep making more.
@Ahmar312
Жыл бұрын
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There were quite a few funny periods in time where there were multiple competing Caliphs, which was interesting. That said Catholicism had like 3-4 popes at one point, with a few more scattered around other branches of christianity, so it all balances out hahaha
@bobmorane2082
2 жыл бұрын
I think it was 2 during the western schism one at Avignon the other in Rome
@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051
2 жыл бұрын
@@bobmorane2082 nah that happened often in the times of the Holy Roman Empire
@bobmorane2082
2 жыл бұрын
@@praisethesun.praisedeussol6051 he said Catholic and no I don’t know of any period of multiple Pope but the Avignon
@bobmorane2082
2 жыл бұрын
@ابو أسلم البربري Abbasid are Persian but ruled from Bagdad just to point out they aren’t Arab
@ferny1714
2 жыл бұрын
@@bobmorane2082 Does it matter if there Arab? Like are other none Arab races treated differently compared to full blooded Arab ones in the caliphate.
It's kinda hilarious that once the Taliban came in control of Afghanistan they have trouble actually controlling the country because of terrorism. I imagine a Smug American talking to a Taliban diplomat seeking for aid like "it really sucks doesn't it?"
@user-re8bw2js6p
10 ай бұрын
Political divisions are something that exists in all countries and throughout all Ages. The difference is that in capitalist countries people are guided intellectually and their ideas are controlled using schools and the media, then they are disarmed in order to leave them naked in the face of power in order to ensure that they do not rebel, while the Taliban allows every Muslim to freely formulate his political ideas without controller
A conflict in which the Taliban, the US, and Iran were technically on the same side. That breaks my brain slightly.
Your research skills are crazy!
So basically a modern version of pre-Ottoman Empire politics in the middlen east. Or of pre-16th century Europe but with the different Muslim believes instead of the different Christian believes. Both work, really.
@takiyaazrin7562
2 жыл бұрын
"When the black flags come from Khorasan go to them, even if you have to crawl on snow, for among them is the Khalifa from Allah, the Mahdi" this is a shit ideology
@zhouwu
2 жыл бұрын
@@takiyaazrin7562 Man, I can see the appeal. Why live in reality when you can live in a fantasy adventure world instead? Populated by Mahdi's and Khorosans and snow and ice and Khalifas?
@rebelwind6474
2 жыл бұрын
@@takiyaazrin7562 too many delusional islamist groups who wanted to be the one that was indicated by this hadith. A similar prophesy was also been made, and it actually came true, like the fall of Constantinople. "One day Constantinople will be conquered, the commander is a great commander he is, the soldiers are great soldiers they are. (Narrated by Imam Ahmad 4/235). Ironically, the hadith itself is dhaif (weak) and its validity has been attested by various scholars
@tiktokasylum5186
2 жыл бұрын
@@takiyaazrin7562 lol you butchered that one at least get the statement correct before embarrassing yourself
@tiktokasylum5186
2 жыл бұрын
@@rebelwind6474 the black flags are from khurasan a specific place not iraq or Afghanistan..
It helps them a lot the fact that they had previous experience as a government. They're basically picking from where they left.
A lesser evil is still evil, but I’d be damned if I don’t root for the better side of a conflict.
I’m so glad I found this channel, it’s amazingly educational and I’m able to watch it with my kids.
@FahadFSA
Жыл бұрын
Tell you kids that non of the people in these so-called "Islamic groups" are even close to being muslims...
Thank you Hilbert, love me a 15’ geopolitics-history freshen’up!
@mohammedahmed-ue3eb
2 жыл бұрын
shut up
@Ahmar312
Жыл бұрын
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I guess it’s kinda like that stereotype of Catholics and Protestants hating each other, but taking it WAYYY EXTREME
wasn't aware they did, but thanx for the laugh 🤣
Afghanistan is literally the embodiment of Game of Thrones today.
@Aspire85
2 жыл бұрын
Except all the sex scenes are bacha bazi 😂
@reyaroy4236
2 жыл бұрын
True. The Gandhar curse is real.
@reyaroy4236
2 жыл бұрын
@@Aspire85 Those are happening too but not shown in news for obvious reasons.
@myst1049
2 жыл бұрын
@@Aspire85 bruh those probably happens with harems since a muslim can have 4 wives
@hellion6737
Жыл бұрын
But with forced child marriages, and suicide bombing!
Kind of funny that the Taliban are dealing with an Islamist Insurgency. Not gonna lie, not a twist I saw coming.
You know terrorism is bad when the terrorists start counter-terrorist operations
@zoybean
Жыл бұрын
The taliban were never classified as terrorists
@lonesameer13
Жыл бұрын
You may disagree with them on some part But calling the Taliban as terrorists is wrong
This is crazier than the fighting between the Judean People's Front and the People's Front of Judea.
The Western world freaked out when Afghanistan fell to the Taliban, thinking it's the worst. But reality is that Taliban is relatively tame compared to ISIS. This new generation of Taliban is even more moderate than the previous pre 9/11 generation.
@rextraostwinmoon4303
Жыл бұрын
But are they tech savvy like ISIS? Probably not, but they enjoy ferris wheels.
@asahelkish5809
Жыл бұрын
Because ISIS is basically just what US did with the cartels.
@somniumisdreaming
Жыл бұрын
Not really.
@etholus1000
11 ай бұрын
No, not at all tame. Maybe a lesser evil, but no where near as tame as you put it. Islam, I respect the faith. But these warlords and despots need to be rooted out. You don't see Christians forming these gorilla terrorist cults in the west, because there is no need. I say that lightly as the west falls to degeneracy but still, there is no need. God and morality above all else
@Krkak4985
11 ай бұрын
@@somniumisdreaming How so?
This is like nazis fighting fascists.
@georgelincolnrockwell4659
2 жыл бұрын
More like the Strasserism conflict with the wider National Socialist Ideology
@swagdaddy1569
2 жыл бұрын
watch the islamic state video on the gold dinar, very true facts about the federal reserve and weimar
@orrorsaness5942
2 жыл бұрын
Strasserism: Taliban National Socialism: Al-Qaeda Burgundian System: ISIS
@mappingshaman5280
2 жыл бұрын
@@orrorsaness5942 not really. The nazis purged the strasserists whereas al qaeda and the taliban are allies and believe more or less the same thing. If we're making tno references its more like al qaeda is goring and the taliban is bormann
@mappingshaman5280
2 жыл бұрын
The nazis fighting fascists kind of happened though. The anschluss of Austria where the national socialist Republic of Germany annexed the fascist state of Austria
What’s up Broski 🦋
These groups can't even keep themselves together,we can't even tell which is which might as well destroy them all at this point.
I wish these were more like 30 minutes long. No way this is enough time to cover it all!
All the smaller tribal allegiances make things even more complicated over there too as if it wasn't complicated enough
@matteoaievola8643
2 жыл бұрын
It's just a Cluster fuck
@teethgrinder83
2 жыл бұрын
@@matteoaievola8643 unfortunately so
@Elendrian
2 жыл бұрын
And THEN they shift allegiances all the time, so take what you said and square it.
@teethgrinder83
2 жыл бұрын
@@Elendrian yeah, it's hardly a wonder it's nigh on impossible to force regime change over there, it's a different way of thinking-many people in Afghanistan don't think about centralised government etc..and are far more localised, the countryside is far different than the cities for example. And then there's all the in-fighting-its a difficult place for an outsider to get their head around
@Elendrian
2 жыл бұрын
@@teethgrinder83 Democracy can be supported, but not exported. This system of government is inherently reliant on a number of central institutions that require public trust, and a long period with which to build legitimacy. Those institutions have to be home grown in order to take root. It's for this reason that we see the nation building efforts of the United States in Korea, Germany and Japan were successful, but a disastrous failure in Afghanistan. Hindsight bias factors in of course, so I'm not trying to throw bombs and castigate previous administrations. I think we need to take this as a lesson in understanding both the limits of our foreign policy, and the nature by which democracies die, in order to look inwards are the problems facing our nation domestically.
Very minor point: the Q in al Qaeda is pronounced with a clicking Q at the back of the mouth, not a KH.
This still shocks me. I thought they would work together, but then again they have different motivations. Now that the Taliban have American equipment they can fight more stronger (maybe).
Excellent summary of a very complex subject. I had no idea just how many Islamist factions there were within modern Afghanistan. I was only familiar with the history up until the 1990s and the 2001 US invasion. Evidently much has changed since then.
@mohamedafghan1440
Жыл бұрын
There are some mistake and misunderstanding of you Isis are not Muslim everyone know in Afghanistan that's why this idealogy didn't work in Afghanistan US wanted make Afghanistan second Iraq and Syria to replace Isis in Afghanistan but failed When Taliban and Afghan army together were fighting against Isis and defeated in the Kunar province so Taliban try to arrest them alive but US helicopters came and took them up and brought them to US army bases every single person knew about this case in Afghanistan. ISIS the full form is ( Israel Special Intelligence Section) Which is both Musaad and CIA operational squad to destroy and make weak those Muslims countries which are against Israel in the Madle East
@patrickkilroy6512
Жыл бұрын
@@mohamedafghan1440 Sorry mate, that’s an insane conspiracy theory. ISIS are radical Islamic terrorists that originated in Jordan, Syria, and Iraq.
@Ahmar312
Жыл бұрын
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@tigr860
Жыл бұрын
@@mohamedafghan1440 how did the igil appear?
@crazychase98
Жыл бұрын
Mean they basically all the same just different names they all route from the mujahideen
I wouldn't call 'Al Qaeda in Iraq' unknown before ISIS, if you read 'Task Force Black' they appear and are a central target of SAS and Jsoc operations. Also their founding leader appeared to consider Bin Laden too moderate in their interactions before 9/11. It's an overwhelmingly nebulous and complex situation.
@hassanibnalotaibiyya4271
2 жыл бұрын
They were only part of Al-Qaeda for 2 years, before it was independent and they split off into the "Islamic State of Iraq" in late 2006/2007 (albeit media continuously referred to them as Al-Qaeda until 2013)
@Bruce-qb3vu
2 жыл бұрын
@@hassanibnalotaibiyya4271 They went by more than a dozen different names before ISIS stuck.
@Ahmar312
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@Ahmar312
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@thundersword2733
Жыл бұрын
@@hassanibnalotaibiyya4271 yep they were known as Mujahideen Shura Council before the Zarqawi died in 2006
Your Arabic pronunciation is very good 👍👍
What a tolerant, peaceful bunch of people.
@FahadFSA
Жыл бұрын
ikr?
@Yusufalsylheti
Жыл бұрын
More peaceful than America in fact
1, The Soldier holding the flag, around the 2 min area was in 2014. We didn't wear that uniform in 2003. 2, ISIS as formed off the backs out of Sadir City. They used the flag from Al-Zaquari and added to it. They weren't a threat until 2014.
@Guh934
Жыл бұрын
"We",Hol'd up waita a minute
@OK-yy6qz
Жыл бұрын
Press the breaks there Eddie. Who the fuck is "We"?
Just like Captain America: The Civil War, but instead of Captain America, we get Captain Afghanistan
@DJFabiconcojones
2 жыл бұрын
More like major Mohamed or admiral Afghanistan
@yousefyaghoobi282
Жыл бұрын
We actually did have a real life Captain Afghanistan. He was called "Ahmad shah Massud". unfortunately he died in a suicide attack, a day before 9/11
@Ahmar312
Жыл бұрын
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You should name your channel 'Americans history point of view with Hilbert'
i worked with a 17 year old women her parents were afgan she was westernized. She had an arranged marriage to this guy she left oneday to get married and move to afgan. I hope shes doing good
@quartermaster2809
Жыл бұрын
Same, my family was always right with how they treat women, I hope it's the same for her since I don't know much about how traditional afghans are with their culture.
@somniumisdreaming
Жыл бұрын
Not w3ll I would imagine. The twliban is pushing sharia law, has stopped women working and even going to school now. Back to the hell for women in Afghanistan.
I really want to see this as a movie. one terrorist asking America to help take out the other terrorists would probably be my favorite part.
@lonesameer13
9 ай бұрын
US is also a terrorist group
I have no idea why but couple minutes in the video and my brain exe stopped working 😂
Afghanistan is the real Game Of Throne in reality, except there is no ending or finale season episode here
I wonder what the people working at KZread think about when this type of content comes rolling through. I wonder.
Thank you for this very clear explanation of the power struggle between the Taliban and Isis K.
Half way through watching this and Tom Lehrer's "National Brotherhood Week" is playing in my head
It's actually fucking insane how many different, independent groups there are in that general area
I recently studied Quantum Computing. So, the name Hilbert is ringing a lot bells. Any QC fans here?