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  • @teresaglennie2699
    @teresaglennie2699 Жыл бұрын

    Hi everyone im Rogue's mum and im so proud of him. I love you Jake

  • @CoachRogue

    @CoachRogue

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks mum love you too

  • @josuevargas5029

    @josuevargas5029

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Rogue's mum have a great day

  • @cannadlrlwrma5800

    @cannadlrlwrma5800

    Жыл бұрын

    what a supportive mom.

  • @cannadlrlwrma5800

    @cannadlrlwrma5800

    Жыл бұрын

    hi mom

  • @saitamaro6969

    @saitamaro6969

    Жыл бұрын

    is this actually your mom?

  • @KizerRoll
    @KizerRoll Жыл бұрын

    i implemented this into my play and IMMEDIATELY started gapping people in mid lane allowing me to start snowballs more consistently, thanks for the breakdown coach.

  • @CoachRogue

    @CoachRogue

    Жыл бұрын

    NP sir!

  • @KurzedMetal
    @KurzedMetal Жыл бұрын

    I can see this channel blow up in the future, just keep releasing good content regularly

  • @CoachRogue

    @CoachRogue

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you that's what I'm hoping for :)

  • @basod1
    @basod1 Жыл бұрын

    The best thing that puts you above others is that you explain the concept and you are then showing example after example. This really helps people!

  • @CoachRogue
    @CoachRogue Жыл бұрын

    Hey I've noticed lots of people commenting with questions such as asking if this applies to botlane as well / what game time does botlane gets 6? So I thought I'd answer that all here! It's pretty much impossible to predict when botlane will get lvl 6, you have 2 people sharing XP and quite often one of them isn't there so there's a lot of variables meaning you can't predict it so don't stress too much about this. This 5:30 timer is still very important to botlane, if you have lvl 6 midlaners showing up with 1500gold in items and roaming to bot lane, and you're sitting under your tower low health from early trading with just a Dorans blade you are going to get walked over. Another thing to mention is that this timer is especially important for support, just like how Fnatic grouped 4 people mid (support and ADC included) at 5:30, roaming mid to make plays / unlock your midlaner on this timer is SUPER valuable.

  • @999fini

    @999fini

    Жыл бұрын

    pin this!

  • @CoachRogue

    @CoachRogue

    Жыл бұрын

    @@999fini it was but my mum's reply was too cute it takes priority HAHHA

  • @999fini

    @999fini

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CoachRogue i hadnt seen it youre totally right :)

  • @shotosuga3338
    @shotosuga3338 Жыл бұрын

    This channel is so underrated. These are the infos you would never hear otherwise!

  • @Seven646
    @Seven646 Жыл бұрын

    Very good video, you can get a lot of knowledge from it. Finally I've learned something new. Most of "How to get good" videos talk about same basic things like "what is slowpush, what is freeze and etc."

  • @shiro5157
    @shiro5157 Жыл бұрын

    content like this is what got me super excited to both play and think about fighting games when I was younger, absolutely love getting this in league

  • @vortraz2054
    @vortraz2054 Жыл бұрын

    REcall timings are still so interesting to me as a Dota player. Where I come from, we can just buy anywhere and have items brought to us by the chicken. In particular, we buy lots and lots of regen, and try to win trades in lane and force our enemies off of farm by threatening to kill them back to back to back, we do ALOT of brawling as a result of our remote access to core early items and healing. The result of this is that the safe consistent heroes are picked constantly, and the high skill expression heroes are for players that specialize in their micro mechanics and are CONFIDENT that they can stand their ground and compete for farm in a delicate battle of spacing and APM contest with little room for error. Any player who has a respectable track record as a MEEPO picker, isnt really someone that you can beat by flipping coins and taking risks.

  • @dazeen9591

    @dazeen9591

    Жыл бұрын

    What? You got delivery chickens to bring you items? So they're delayed? Does this mean you can steal another player's items if you steal/kill the chicken?

  • @FunAnimalFactsToday

    @FunAnimalFactsToday

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@dazeen9591if you kill the chicken, it has a respawn timer of a couple minutes. So you deny them their items for a little bit, and you get a small amount of gold.

  • @AlphaChopstick
    @AlphaChopstick Жыл бұрын

    This is such a great video. As a jg main whenever I play mid I have some difficulty finding a good timer for early base unless I get some kills, this will make taking towers pre 14 as Ziggs even easier!

  • @AngelosRitter

    @AngelosRitter

    Жыл бұрын

    try Hullbreaker Tristana in midlane, she wrecks the first turret within 15 seconds along her bomb and the second turret isnt far off dying easily too. she is a real turret destroyer at this point. at Demolish ontop and you got an Inhibitor pre 15

  • @pimsleur4439
    @pimsleur4439 Жыл бұрын

    Love the simplicity of the explanation. Time to binge your channel 😅

  • @nitram.9621
    @nitram.9621 Жыл бұрын

    I intuitively knew it just reading the title, but it is something else to understand it fully thanks to your thoughtful explanations. Great video!

  • @RedAstrals
    @RedAstrals Жыл бұрын

    wow that was very insightful! thank you! i really liked your explanations!

  • @gabrieliuss8432
    @gabrieliuss8432 Жыл бұрын

    one of the best coaching i have seen on the internet , instead of advices like farm and don't die you get actualy strategy and recall timing strategy, never in few thousand hours have i thought about that and got my mind blown

  • @CoachRogue

    @CoachRogue

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much man I hope to hit a niche here with my advice and it seems to be working:)

  • @gabrieliuss8432

    @gabrieliuss8432

    Жыл бұрын

    @fear no, i am gold 2 even with really good farm (8-11/min) don't climb, i think from gold rank you have to come up with what is working best for you, for me it's jungle role, because with any other role i feel like i have no map presence. Since i picked up jgl my lp gains went up a lot

  • @katagami.
    @katagami. Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot, your channel will get the recognition it deserves :)!

  • @alvemaster
    @alvemaster Жыл бұрын

    Also remember, if youre not toplane. This recall can win you the game. If you get this recall and the enemy doesnt, then you will get free dragon and a free dragon gets your team extreme value earlygame

  • @hypotheticalsinglewoody
    @hypotheticalsinglewoody Жыл бұрын

    First vid I've watched from you and I instantly subbed. 0 fluff, 100% content.

  • @zookeeper2185
    @zookeeper2185 Жыл бұрын

    this is actually a crazy good video I see this benefitting alot of newer players wave management

  • @AS-kc4mg
    @AS-kc4mg Жыл бұрын

    nice its short and easy to follow with good reasoning, going to try this out

  • @nametaken2537
    @nametaken2537 Жыл бұрын

    The fact I heard no one else mention this before is insane to me. Thanks.

  • @Frightning

    @Frightning

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed, this is the kind of insight that make anyone a better player. Exactly the kind of stuff I still want to learn about LoL.

  • @kylon1235
    @kylon1235 Жыл бұрын

    Wait this video is actually cracked wtf

  • @eeeecca
    @eeeecca Жыл бұрын

    Woa this is actually pretty huge thanks! this will definitely help in snowballing harder :>

  • @heh3135
    @heh3135 Жыл бұрын

    first vid i've seen from you. amazing examples and explanation, im only a casual player but damn this is huge in lower elos

  • @snowbird7254
    @snowbird7254 Жыл бұрын

    Love your explanation and examples for this. Subbed

  • @wrenmichael2922
    @wrenmichael2922 Жыл бұрын

    Before i watch, im going to guess its because the 5:40 wave is typically your level 6

  • @CoachRogue

    @CoachRogue

    Жыл бұрын

    That's one of a few factors:^)

  • @HappyGick

    @HappyGick

    Жыл бұрын

    I kinda figured that too, I thought it had to do something with the level 6 timer.

  • @AlphaChopstick

    @AlphaChopstick

    Жыл бұрын

    I think that the tower taking more damage post 5:30 is the real thing the use/abuse at least for me

  • @aszriel_
    @aszriel_ Жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for these anlysis. It really helps understand many aspects we don't necessarily see by ourself.

  • @NaiyoGames
    @NaiyoGames Жыл бұрын

    Suchba great breakdown of what is happenning and why it is important. I am iron 4 (lmao I swear), havent played in years and now I am trying seriously. Will tell you how much this helped me tomorrow 😅

  • @rochoso

    @rochoso

    Жыл бұрын

    How did it go?

  • @NaiyoGames

    @NaiyoGames

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rochoso I suck so bad lmao. It does help with my timing for sure. I am still losing a lot 😅 It's fine, I will keep learning!!

  • @TheSuperskadoosh
    @TheSuperskadoosh Жыл бұрын

    this was actually realy informative. and i will be trying to apply this to my own games now ty.

  • @johnm741
    @johnm741 Жыл бұрын

    wow ive been playing for 10 years and didnt know about this. will try this on my game. thanks!

  • @akeiri3296
    @akeiri3296 Жыл бұрын

    I just found your channel, watched this video, took a quick look at your other content and i know ill stay here for long, great job man, keep it up

  • @violentgravy01
    @violentgravy01 Жыл бұрын

    I just die before 5:30. Easier than recalling.

  • @TexasRedOutlaw

    @TexasRedOutlaw

    Жыл бұрын

    Based

  • @danielhughes3758

    @danielhughes3758

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@TexasRedOutlawPun intended? 😛

  • @gosunflower

    @gosunflower

    4 ай бұрын

    leBaus

  • @freestylingwhistler
    @freestylingwhistler Жыл бұрын

    damn this was really helpful. i've "stomped" my lane pre 5:30 and then come back and wonder why my opponent suddenly is caught up in cs and a level up.

  • @giovannipaolo5650
    @giovannipaolo5650 Жыл бұрын

    cannon minion takes 14% DMG flat from tower it cant survice 10 shots - btw you can count that its 8 shots as 7 ammount to 98%, (all minions have unique passives similar to tower decrese pre 5 minute as you show. its 45% melee 70% caster 14 canon)

  • @maryarts1505

    @maryarts1505

    Жыл бұрын

    What rank are you?

  • @giovannipaolo5650

    @giovannipaolo5650

    Жыл бұрын

    @@maryarts1505 gold

  • @rockethand

    @rockethand

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@giovannipaolo5650you don't get high elo, but you got big brainz 🧠

  • @giovannipaolo5650

    @giovannipaolo5650

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rockethand Btw those numbers are implemented through 'items' called ANTI-TOWER SOCKS we can click on a minion and then hover over their only item to see that indeed minion do wear socks (btw they are stinky but effective) its an awesome easter egg that feels like sezon 1 leauge :D

  • @erlends2857
    @erlends2857 Жыл бұрын

    very nice and insightful video

  • @CoachRogue

    @CoachRogue

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you heaps man :D

  • @dinastyx7414
    @dinastyx7414 Жыл бұрын

    Im a mastertier player and this is useful even for me. Thanks for the awsome vid!

  • @silentkaisei
    @silentkaisei Жыл бұрын

    This is actually really useful it feels obivous now after watching this

  • @EmergencyTaco2
    @EmergencyTaco2 Жыл бұрын

    Wow what a top notch video. Clear and concise while providing video examples of what's being taught. Earned a sub from me for sure.

  • @h3l_l
    @h3l_l Жыл бұрын

    BOY WHEN SUP SHOWS MID TO HELP EM' PUSH WAVE I FELT HOW TRUE FRIENDSHIP FELT LIKE I WISH SOLO QUEUE WAS LIKE THAT

  • @plasticelephant1969
    @plasticelephant1969 Жыл бұрын

    My teammates watch these and now they start recalling in the middle of fights at 5:30

  • @MangaGamified
    @MangaGamified Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I'll use this in URF!

  • @youngminyi8795
    @youngminyi8795 Жыл бұрын

    I have a habit that I go base before getting level 6 when I play Evelyn jungle and it is so good to know that the time that laner's hitting 6 is predictable

  • @sandlewood7563
    @sandlewood7563 Жыл бұрын

    Great vid, haven't seen this really touched upon before.

  • @robertharmon5799
    @robertharmon5799 Жыл бұрын

    These videos are sick. Could you do a video about how to gain control of the area around dragon pit before it spawns?

  • @parallelwooju
    @parallelwooju Жыл бұрын

    hit diamond without actually playing around these.. makes you think how much we ignore about the game, very good content !

  • @shawnandrews3231
    @shawnandrews3231 Жыл бұрын

    This is the single best tid bit of info I've gotten o help Change my game

  • @scottsharwood9465
    @scottsharwood9465 Жыл бұрын

    Next level play...love it.

  • @SkritchB
    @SkritchB Жыл бұрын

    I also get ready for the 15.00 minute mark so me & my team can FF!

  • @matthewfuerst6456
    @matthewfuerst6456 Жыл бұрын

    Actually really interesting, plus now 5:30 will finally be drilled into my head as the time that the enemy mid lane assassin will roam bot to kill me

  • @HanyuuHOLO
    @HanyuuHOLO Жыл бұрын

    This is one of those things that should be in the in-game tutorial. Like, with an 8 minute video you're saving thousands and thousands of hours for someone to figure this out on their own, and that's assuming they are curious enough to try and figure out stuff in the game.

  • @delroynathan7794
    @delroynathan7794 Жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed this! Liked and subscribed

  • @bruhitsbread
    @bruhitsbread Жыл бұрын

    Heya! Quick question, since most of the timers and stuff referred to in this video was on solo lanes: What time should the bot laners take their base? And what time/wave do we hit level 6? Thanks in advance, the video was great!

  • @alex2005z

    @alex2005z

    Жыл бұрын

    Bot laners can have level 6 by around 7:30 if you miss very little xp. Just barely in time to roam for herald with 6. But if you miss some xp you can get 6 by taking some xp on the mid wave

  • @lignox7570
    @lignox7570 Жыл бұрын

    Great video ! I'm plat and i didn't knew about the importance of this timer, realy gonna help me become better, ty !

  • @EternalTheHunterVT
    @EternalTheHunterVT Жыл бұрын

    I loved this video, ill see your progress man :D

  • @JampClear
    @JampClear Жыл бұрын

    Beautiful video and explanation

  • @mrboby2060
    @mrboby2060 Жыл бұрын

    Hi that's a cool video, I understand soo much things about Laning phase on this video, TY 😁

  • @ImadZeryouh
    @ImadZeryouh Жыл бұрын

    Its better to forget times in solo Q and just be at the right moment. But in team ranked this was one of the biggest tactics. What time does dragon spawn in League of Legends? 5:00. The cannon maybe worth gold but the dragons hold buffs. Thats why I lose solo top games allot but as adc or mid less because I help jngler with his respawning of jungle creeps. Dragons are very powerfull....

  • @LimeJ0SH
    @LimeJ0SH Жыл бұрын

    good guide man, ngl i knew turrets got weaker but i never clicked it to see buff.. i assumed it was as ther plates dropped it became weaker xD

  • @Joeheatwave.
    @Joeheatwave. Жыл бұрын

    So wondering does this same strategy apply in wild riftand if so what would be the time to look out for?

  • @UndeadBoogie
    @UndeadBoogie Жыл бұрын

    I am the definition of a scrub. Great advice like this makes me slightly less scrubby.

  • @levisonmalanga4900
    @levisonmalanga4900 Жыл бұрын

    so time is important in league. only played league since season 4 and still stuck. good info to know as a jungler (even though i'm terrible at jungle)

  • @wotizlove
    @wotizlove Жыл бұрын

    Ironically on the current iteration of azir I want to recall precisely after the 2nd cannon wave cuz that's when I have 850g for a wand if I don't get a kill prior lol

  • @dappy8116
    @dappy8116 Жыл бұрын

    Very informative video. Thanks

  • @IvarTheBoneless77
    @IvarTheBoneless77 Жыл бұрын

    This is absolutely MASSIVE info......

  • @mikevalencia1318
    @mikevalencia1318 Жыл бұрын

    tnx YT for putting this on my page. tnx coach rogue. the only tip I ever learned from watching shet loads of pro league plays are recall time for drag, hehe. Guess thats why im still stuck in Gold ahahaha

  • @mikevalencia1318

    @mikevalencia1318

    Жыл бұрын

    having subbed to all these high elo players that uploads "twitch live" vods, just realized non of them has ever mentioned this 5:30 recall hit lvl6 wave/tower armor down. insane.

  • @rythm4964
    @rythm4964 Жыл бұрын

    So how do I execute this as a support? Do I just randomly go mid, start pushing the wave, get pinged off, and told to kill myself?

  • @mitradite
    @mitradite Жыл бұрын

    Do you have any videos that go over map awareness and making it so that you look more at it since I mostly autopilot and forget a minimap exists.

  • @XAllelujahXxx
    @XAllelujahXxx Жыл бұрын

    That was the best video and explanation possible.

  • @thebushgod853
    @thebushgod853 Жыл бұрын

    worth my sub, will try this out with my dup later ty

  • @loreb3ck
    @loreb3ck Жыл бұрын

    Ty for the fantastic video, but i have a question... Why support goes in mid at the min( 5:00 )? If they want to fight at the lvl6 of the midlaner (so min 5:30)?

  • @alejandromico9787

    @alejandromico9787

    Жыл бұрын

    mikyx proly fought on the bottom side river after that fight was done he had nothing to do thats why he goes mid to share xp and gold with caps cause he might be behind or trying to make a lead with the xp

  • @alex2005z

    @alex2005z

    Жыл бұрын

    To allow a roam at lvl 6 as soon as possible

  • @carlosayllonbelmonte7712
    @carlosayllonbelmonte7712 Жыл бұрын

    I love ur content man! Can u pls do some for botlane and supps?

  • @CoachRogue

    @CoachRogue

    Жыл бұрын

    I have a couple videos on support already there's a playlist on my channel for each role, but whenever i feel inspired for a role specific idea I'll be sure to :)

  • @victor-oh
    @victor-oh Жыл бұрын

    This is actually game changing

  • @defskill9484
    @defskill9484 Жыл бұрын

    pretty amazing video!

  • @mygamingaccount4258
    @mygamingaccount4258 Жыл бұрын

    Studying for school test:❌ Studying for LoL tactics to win:✔️

  • @SoraNeet
    @SoraNeet Жыл бұрын

    If i remember correctly botlane tower doesn't have that buff, u can take plates before min 5

  • @IvanSnake08
    @IvanSnake08 Жыл бұрын

    Really insightful! I think it's funny that I intuitively always recalled between the optimal times you prescribed when I can but could never really pinpoint why I did it (I've been playing on/off for 12 years and just hit Masters).

  • @varelasensei
    @varelasensei Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video. Subscribed

  • @ReadAloudRealm
    @ReadAloudRealm Жыл бұрын

    bro made a 1min video into 8 minutes, amazing

  • @carvo2561
    @carvo2561 Жыл бұрын

    Nice video! keep it up!!

  • @aragustin
    @aragustin Жыл бұрын

    thank you, subscribed

  • @bigshun4301
    @bigshun4301 Жыл бұрын

    they recall at 5 to be ready for 5.30 because theres a canon wave and a buff to damage dealt to tower and also the lv up to 6 at that moment of the game there i saved u 8 min

  • @CoachRogue

    @CoachRogue

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the view, glad to see you learnt so much from watching the video that you could even help teach others!

  • @ZcaBBcEKXoHGf2JM
    @ZcaBBcEKXoHGf2JM Жыл бұрын

    Is there a timer like this in the bot lane?

  • @CoachRogue

    @CoachRogue

    Жыл бұрын

    Very similar you'll get a lot of mid lanes roaming bot with this lvl 6 and showing up to botlane where people are likely still lvl 4 and you can imagine how easy those 1 shots and tower dives become

  • @alex2005z

    @alex2005z

    Жыл бұрын

    You can back at 5 mins to match the mid back, and at 8 minutes since thats ur lvl 6 and herald spawns (to be ready to roam and fight or punish roams)

  • @Velereonics
    @Velereonics Жыл бұрын

    I expected this to be lazy clickbait with a guy being like "dragon" after dragging it out but this was very informative. I do this back kind of naturally, probably ingrained in me by lvl6 stuff and other players, but it's useful to know why it matters.

  • @TheNEXTGumayusi
    @TheNEXTGumayusi Жыл бұрын

    yo, been really liking all the content. Is there any chance we can get adc content anytime soon?

  • @bluenosaurus2720
    @bluenosaurus2720 Жыл бұрын

    I do. I recall every 2 min because of HP issue.

  • @SadMach1n3
    @SadMach1n3 Жыл бұрын

    great video !

  • @compangit1524
    @compangit1524 Жыл бұрын

    good explanation buddy

  • @dan-xl4mg
    @dan-xl4mg Жыл бұрын

    Is this the same for botlane since you share exp? Im new so im curious

  • @greyj__
    @greyj__ Жыл бұрын

    video starts at 1:25

  • @CoachRogue

    @CoachRogue

    Жыл бұрын

    There's annotations on the video already that point to this, even check the description!

  • @RealSolidusSnake
    @RealSolidusSnake Жыл бұрын

    I've been doing spellbook Soraka lately, it's been doing wonders for my laning phase and my gold income. Start backing at 5:55, mid back switch to tp, buy and go right back.

  • @zakrs130
    @zakrs130 Жыл бұрын

    Though I appreciate the explanation, using Aphelios, a champion that would never ordinarily be played in the middle lane, to destroy a solo turret, with no opponent to contest, isn't really a comparison to any of our games. If you are playing Aphelios, aren't you by default in the bottom lane, and quite possibly, with your support (which now fortifies the turrets further based on how many people are nearby), meaning that the actual damage you'll offput wont be anywhere close to what is shown in the video. Unless as you stated you manage to get a dive off and have the time uninterrupted and your support roams mid. Watching the first real example, you can see Renekton righlty backs off after just 1 plate (if he stays longer, it will end with Darius trading a plate back most likely whilst Renekton bases and loses xp). It's good information, and very insightful, but I think there is no need for practice tool "examples" when you have some pretty solid real examples themselves in the video.

  • @miguelheredia4123
    @miguelheredia4123 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @bryanglover757
    @bryanglover757 Жыл бұрын

    High quality content

  • @dazeen9591
    @dazeen9591 Жыл бұрын

    But if both laners back before 5:30 doesn't that defeat the purpose of backing before 5:30 since you can't push for plates when the enemy did the same strat ??

  • @CoachRogue

    @CoachRogue

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes but if you don't you're screwed so...

  • @dazeen9591

    @dazeen9591

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CoachRogue not really? They're gonna have a dirk vs your longsword or something. Not big enough advantage to gain anything from. Just lose a wave of XP and gold

  • @CoachRogue

    @CoachRogue

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dazeen9591 there's an 8min long video above explaining why that is a problem

  • @dazeen9591

    @dazeen9591

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CoachRogue it's not a problem for me lol

  • @braxton4127
    @braxton4127 Жыл бұрын

    Bro I don’t even play this game and I just watched this to the end. 😅

  • @TheNEXTGumayusi
    @TheNEXTGumayusi Жыл бұрын

    though is the same timer relevant for botlane or is min 8 more important since that's the timer when we get lvl 6?

  • @jjrulez1596
    @jjrulez1596 Жыл бұрын

    1:00 I'm gonna take a guess and say it's to help your teams jungle contest scuttle. edit: well I was wrong, and partially because I had the wrong numbers in my head lmao

  • @nowheretohlde
    @nowheretohlde Жыл бұрын

    doesnt know such an important mark thanks

  • @DeinASDF
    @DeinASDF Жыл бұрын

    thx bro nice video

  • @uque
    @uque Жыл бұрын

    thank you :D

  • @delta4135
    @delta4135 Жыл бұрын

    I am recalling at 5 min. bc everyone are doing this and thanks to that I can go do my stuff in 🚾.