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WHY do pro players ALWAYS RECALL BEFORE
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1:18 Explanation
3:44 Examples start
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Hi everyone im Rogue's mum and im so proud of him. I love you Jake
@CoachRogue
Жыл бұрын
Thanks mum love you too
@josuevargas5029
Жыл бұрын
Hi Rogue's mum have a great day
@cannadlrlwrma5800
Жыл бұрын
what a supportive mom.
@cannadlrlwrma5800
Жыл бұрын
hi mom
@saitamaro6969
Жыл бұрын
is this actually your mom?
i implemented this into my play and IMMEDIATELY started gapping people in mid lane allowing me to start snowballs more consistently, thanks for the breakdown coach.
@CoachRogue
Жыл бұрын
NP sir!
I can see this channel blow up in the future, just keep releasing good content regularly
@CoachRogue
Жыл бұрын
Thank you that's what I'm hoping for :)
The best thing that puts you above others is that you explain the concept and you are then showing example after example. This really helps people!
Hey I've noticed lots of people commenting with questions such as asking if this applies to botlane as well / what game time does botlane gets 6? So I thought I'd answer that all here! It's pretty much impossible to predict when botlane will get lvl 6, you have 2 people sharing XP and quite often one of them isn't there so there's a lot of variables meaning you can't predict it so don't stress too much about this. This 5:30 timer is still very important to botlane, if you have lvl 6 midlaners showing up with 1500gold in items and roaming to bot lane, and you're sitting under your tower low health from early trading with just a Dorans blade you are going to get walked over. Another thing to mention is that this timer is especially important for support, just like how Fnatic grouped 4 people mid (support and ADC included) at 5:30, roaming mid to make plays / unlock your midlaner on this timer is SUPER valuable.
@999fini
Жыл бұрын
pin this!
@CoachRogue
Жыл бұрын
@@999fini it was but my mum's reply was too cute it takes priority HAHHA
@999fini
Жыл бұрын
@@CoachRogue i hadnt seen it youre totally right :)
This channel is so underrated. These are the infos you would never hear otherwise!
Very good video, you can get a lot of knowledge from it. Finally I've learned something new. Most of "How to get good" videos talk about same basic things like "what is slowpush, what is freeze and etc."
content like this is what got me super excited to both play and think about fighting games when I was younger, absolutely love getting this in league
REcall timings are still so interesting to me as a Dota player. Where I come from, we can just buy anywhere and have items brought to us by the chicken. In particular, we buy lots and lots of regen, and try to win trades in lane and force our enemies off of farm by threatening to kill them back to back to back, we do ALOT of brawling as a result of our remote access to core early items and healing. The result of this is that the safe consistent heroes are picked constantly, and the high skill expression heroes are for players that specialize in their micro mechanics and are CONFIDENT that they can stand their ground and compete for farm in a delicate battle of spacing and APM contest with little room for error. Any player who has a respectable track record as a MEEPO picker, isnt really someone that you can beat by flipping coins and taking risks.
@dazeen9591
Жыл бұрын
What? You got delivery chickens to bring you items? So they're delayed? Does this mean you can steal another player's items if you steal/kill the chicken?
@FunAnimalFactsToday
Жыл бұрын
@@dazeen9591if you kill the chicken, it has a respawn timer of a couple minutes. So you deny them their items for a little bit, and you get a small amount of gold.
This is such a great video. As a jg main whenever I play mid I have some difficulty finding a good timer for early base unless I get some kills, this will make taking towers pre 14 as Ziggs even easier!
@AngelosRitter
Жыл бұрын
try Hullbreaker Tristana in midlane, she wrecks the first turret within 15 seconds along her bomb and the second turret isnt far off dying easily too. she is a real turret destroyer at this point. at Demolish ontop and you got an Inhibitor pre 15
Love the simplicity of the explanation. Time to binge your channel 😅
I intuitively knew it just reading the title, but it is something else to understand it fully thanks to your thoughtful explanations. Great video!
wow that was very insightful! thank you! i really liked your explanations!
one of the best coaching i have seen on the internet , instead of advices like farm and don't die you get actualy strategy and recall timing strategy, never in few thousand hours have i thought about that and got my mind blown
@CoachRogue
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much man I hope to hit a niche here with my advice and it seems to be working:)
@gabrieliuss8432
Жыл бұрын
@fear no, i am gold 2 even with really good farm (8-11/min) don't climb, i think from gold rank you have to come up with what is working best for you, for me it's jungle role, because with any other role i feel like i have no map presence. Since i picked up jgl my lp gains went up a lot
Thanks a lot, your channel will get the recognition it deserves :)!
Also remember, if youre not toplane. This recall can win you the game. If you get this recall and the enemy doesnt, then you will get free dragon and a free dragon gets your team extreme value earlygame
First vid I've watched from you and I instantly subbed. 0 fluff, 100% content.
this is actually a crazy good video I see this benefitting alot of newer players wave management
nice its short and easy to follow with good reasoning, going to try this out
The fact I heard no one else mention this before is insane to me. Thanks.
@Frightning
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, this is the kind of insight that make anyone a better player. Exactly the kind of stuff I still want to learn about LoL.
Wait this video is actually cracked wtf
Woa this is actually pretty huge thanks! this will definitely help in snowballing harder :>
first vid i've seen from you. amazing examples and explanation, im only a casual player but damn this is huge in lower elos
Love your explanation and examples for this. Subbed
Before i watch, im going to guess its because the 5:40 wave is typically your level 6
@CoachRogue
Жыл бұрын
That's one of a few factors:^)
@HappyGick
Жыл бұрын
I kinda figured that too, I thought it had to do something with the level 6 timer.
@AlphaChopstick
Жыл бұрын
I think that the tower taking more damage post 5:30 is the real thing the use/abuse at least for me
Thanks a lot for these anlysis. It really helps understand many aspects we don't necessarily see by ourself.
Suchba great breakdown of what is happenning and why it is important. I am iron 4 (lmao I swear), havent played in years and now I am trying seriously. Will tell you how much this helped me tomorrow 😅
@rochoso
Жыл бұрын
How did it go?
@NaiyoGames
Жыл бұрын
@@rochoso I suck so bad lmao. It does help with my timing for sure. I am still losing a lot 😅 It's fine, I will keep learning!!
this was actually realy informative. and i will be trying to apply this to my own games now ty.
wow ive been playing for 10 years and didnt know about this. will try this on my game. thanks!
I just found your channel, watched this video, took a quick look at your other content and i know ill stay here for long, great job man, keep it up
I just die before 5:30. Easier than recalling.
@TexasRedOutlaw
Жыл бұрын
Based
@danielhughes3758
4 ай бұрын
@@TexasRedOutlawPun intended? 😛
@gosunflower
4 ай бұрын
leBaus
damn this was really helpful. i've "stomped" my lane pre 5:30 and then come back and wonder why my opponent suddenly is caught up in cs and a level up.
cannon minion takes 14% DMG flat from tower it cant survice 10 shots - btw you can count that its 8 shots as 7 ammount to 98%, (all minions have unique passives similar to tower decrese pre 5 minute as you show. its 45% melee 70% caster 14 canon)
@maryarts1505
Жыл бұрын
What rank are you?
@giovannipaolo5650
Жыл бұрын
@@maryarts1505 gold
@rockethand
Жыл бұрын
@@giovannipaolo5650you don't get high elo, but you got big brainz 🧠
@giovannipaolo5650
Жыл бұрын
@@rockethand Btw those numbers are implemented through 'items' called ANTI-TOWER SOCKS we can click on a minion and then hover over their only item to see that indeed minion do wear socks (btw they are stinky but effective) its an awesome easter egg that feels like sezon 1 leauge :D
very nice and insightful video
@CoachRogue
Жыл бұрын
Thank you heaps man :D
Im a mastertier player and this is useful even for me. Thanks for the awsome vid!
This is actually really useful it feels obivous now after watching this
Wow what a top notch video. Clear and concise while providing video examples of what's being taught. Earned a sub from me for sure.
BOY WHEN SUP SHOWS MID TO HELP EM' PUSH WAVE I FELT HOW TRUE FRIENDSHIP FELT LIKE I WISH SOLO QUEUE WAS LIKE THAT
My teammates watch these and now they start recalling in the middle of fights at 5:30
Thanks! I'll use this in URF!
I have a habit that I go base before getting level 6 when I play Evelyn jungle and it is so good to know that the time that laner's hitting 6 is predictable
Great vid, haven't seen this really touched upon before.
These videos are sick. Could you do a video about how to gain control of the area around dragon pit before it spawns?
hit diamond without actually playing around these.. makes you think how much we ignore about the game, very good content !
This is the single best tid bit of info I've gotten o help Change my game
Next level play...love it.
I also get ready for the 15.00 minute mark so me & my team can FF!
Actually really interesting, plus now 5:30 will finally be drilled into my head as the time that the enemy mid lane assassin will roam bot to kill me
This is one of those things that should be in the in-game tutorial. Like, with an 8 minute video you're saving thousands and thousands of hours for someone to figure this out on their own, and that's assuming they are curious enough to try and figure out stuff in the game.
Enjoyed this! Liked and subscribed
Heya! Quick question, since most of the timers and stuff referred to in this video was on solo lanes: What time should the bot laners take their base? And what time/wave do we hit level 6? Thanks in advance, the video was great!
@alex2005z
Жыл бұрын
Bot laners can have level 6 by around 7:30 if you miss very little xp. Just barely in time to roam for herald with 6. But if you miss some xp you can get 6 by taking some xp on the mid wave
Great video ! I'm plat and i didn't knew about the importance of this timer, realy gonna help me become better, ty !
I loved this video, ill see your progress man :D
Beautiful video and explanation
Hi that's a cool video, I understand soo much things about Laning phase on this video, TY 😁
Its better to forget times in solo Q and just be at the right moment. But in team ranked this was one of the biggest tactics. What time does dragon spawn in League of Legends? 5:00. The cannon maybe worth gold but the dragons hold buffs. Thats why I lose solo top games allot but as adc or mid less because I help jngler with his respawning of jungle creeps. Dragons are very powerfull....
good guide man, ngl i knew turrets got weaker but i never clicked it to see buff.. i assumed it was as ther plates dropped it became weaker xD
So wondering does this same strategy apply in wild riftand if so what would be the time to look out for?
I am the definition of a scrub. Great advice like this makes me slightly less scrubby.
so time is important in league. only played league since season 4 and still stuck. good info to know as a jungler (even though i'm terrible at jungle)
Ironically on the current iteration of azir I want to recall precisely after the 2nd cannon wave cuz that's when I have 850g for a wand if I don't get a kill prior lol
Very informative video. Thanks
This is absolutely MASSIVE info......
tnx YT for putting this on my page. tnx coach rogue. the only tip I ever learned from watching shet loads of pro league plays are recall time for drag, hehe. Guess thats why im still stuck in Gold ahahaha
@mikevalencia1318
Жыл бұрын
having subbed to all these high elo players that uploads "twitch live" vods, just realized non of them has ever mentioned this 5:30 recall hit lvl6 wave/tower armor down. insane.
So how do I execute this as a support? Do I just randomly go mid, start pushing the wave, get pinged off, and told to kill myself?
Do you have any videos that go over map awareness and making it so that you look more at it since I mostly autopilot and forget a minimap exists.
That was the best video and explanation possible.
worth my sub, will try this out with my dup later ty
Ty for the fantastic video, but i have a question... Why support goes in mid at the min( 5:00 )? If they want to fight at the lvl6 of the midlaner (so min 5:30)?
@alejandromico9787
Жыл бұрын
mikyx proly fought on the bottom side river after that fight was done he had nothing to do thats why he goes mid to share xp and gold with caps cause he might be behind or trying to make a lead with the xp
@alex2005z
Жыл бұрын
To allow a roam at lvl 6 as soon as possible
I love ur content man! Can u pls do some for botlane and supps?
@CoachRogue
Жыл бұрын
I have a couple videos on support already there's a playlist on my channel for each role, but whenever i feel inspired for a role specific idea I'll be sure to :)
This is actually game changing
pretty amazing video!
Studying for school test:❌ Studying for LoL tactics to win:✔️
If i remember correctly botlane tower doesn't have that buff, u can take plates before min 5
Really insightful! I think it's funny that I intuitively always recalled between the optimal times you prescribed when I can but could never really pinpoint why I did it (I've been playing on/off for 12 years and just hit Masters).
Fantastic video. Subscribed
bro made a 1min video into 8 minutes, amazing
Nice video! keep it up!!
thank you, subscribed
they recall at 5 to be ready for 5.30 because theres a canon wave and a buff to damage dealt to tower and also the lv up to 6 at that moment of the game there i saved u 8 min
@CoachRogue
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the view, glad to see you learnt so much from watching the video that you could even help teach others!
Is there a timer like this in the bot lane?
@CoachRogue
Жыл бұрын
Very similar you'll get a lot of mid lanes roaming bot with this lvl 6 and showing up to botlane where people are likely still lvl 4 and you can imagine how easy those 1 shots and tower dives become
@alex2005z
Жыл бұрын
You can back at 5 mins to match the mid back, and at 8 minutes since thats ur lvl 6 and herald spawns (to be ready to roam and fight or punish roams)
I expected this to be lazy clickbait with a guy being like "dragon" after dragging it out but this was very informative. I do this back kind of naturally, probably ingrained in me by lvl6 stuff and other players, but it's useful to know why it matters.
yo, been really liking all the content. Is there any chance we can get adc content anytime soon?
I do. I recall every 2 min because of HP issue.
great video !
good explanation buddy
Is this the same for botlane since you share exp? Im new so im curious
video starts at 1:25
@CoachRogue
Жыл бұрын
There's annotations on the video already that point to this, even check the description!
I've been doing spellbook Soraka lately, it's been doing wonders for my laning phase and my gold income. Start backing at 5:55, mid back switch to tp, buy and go right back.
Though I appreciate the explanation, using Aphelios, a champion that would never ordinarily be played in the middle lane, to destroy a solo turret, with no opponent to contest, isn't really a comparison to any of our games. If you are playing Aphelios, aren't you by default in the bottom lane, and quite possibly, with your support (which now fortifies the turrets further based on how many people are nearby), meaning that the actual damage you'll offput wont be anywhere close to what is shown in the video. Unless as you stated you manage to get a dive off and have the time uninterrupted and your support roams mid. Watching the first real example, you can see Renekton righlty backs off after just 1 plate (if he stays longer, it will end with Darius trading a plate back most likely whilst Renekton bases and loses xp). It's good information, and very insightful, but I think there is no need for practice tool "examples" when you have some pretty solid real examples themselves in the video.
Thank you
High quality content
But if both laners back before 5:30 doesn't that defeat the purpose of backing before 5:30 since you can't push for plates when the enemy did the same strat ??
@CoachRogue
Жыл бұрын
Yes but if you don't you're screwed so...
@dazeen9591
Жыл бұрын
@@CoachRogue not really? They're gonna have a dirk vs your longsword or something. Not big enough advantage to gain anything from. Just lose a wave of XP and gold
@CoachRogue
Жыл бұрын
@@dazeen9591 there's an 8min long video above explaining why that is a problem
@dazeen9591
Жыл бұрын
@@CoachRogue it's not a problem for me lol
Bro I don’t even play this game and I just watched this to the end. 😅
though is the same timer relevant for botlane or is min 8 more important since that's the timer when we get lvl 6?
1:00 I'm gonna take a guess and say it's to help your teams jungle contest scuttle. edit: well I was wrong, and partially because I had the wrong numbers in my head lmao
doesnt know such an important mark thanks
thx bro nice video
thank you :D
I am recalling at 5 min. bc everyone are doing this and thanks to that I can go do my stuff in 🚾.