Supposedly Alexander the Great and Diogenes met at one point, and Alexander asked Diogenes to be his teacher. Diogenes, like a boss, responded by telling Alexander to get out from between him and the sun. Diogenes is most definitely an interesting man as well as the idea of cynicism.

@BloodyBart888

9 жыл бұрын

In the same encounter Alexander was so impressed by Diogenes' balls of steel that he said: "If i was not Alexander i would have wanted to be Diogenes". Diogenes replied; "If i was not Diogenes i would have wanted to be Diogenes too."

@noahal-shihabi2206

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I forgot about that part.

@nandob1998

9 жыл бұрын

Thats badass

@LeonhardEuler1

9 жыл бұрын

Although likely apocryphal, another version of that encounter says that Alexander found Diogenes looking through a pile of human bones. Upon asking Diogenes what he is doing, Diogenes replied, "I am searching for the bones of your father, but cannot distinguish them from those of a slave." That's a true OG, right there.

@albertweber1617

9 жыл бұрын

He allegedly said "Get out of MY sun", that makes it even more badass.

I love how 360p looks identical to 1080p

A cynic is someone who, when he smells a flower, looks around for a coffin.

Philosophers' ultimate conundrum: Why does the New Age Retro Hippie carry around a toothbrush?

@jeniferjoseph9200

9 жыл бұрын

Uhhhhh... I think it's because they need to brush their teeth.

@BeenSauce

9 жыл бұрын

It was the old age retro hippie that didn't brush his teeth.

@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns

9 жыл бұрын

Progress

@DJl3iohazord

9 жыл бұрын

Litter its suppose to be ironic... like saying your not mainstream, but you fallow mainstream stuff.

Thanks for the upload! I've always needed a clearer explanation on the difference between a hater and a cynic and this does the job very well!

You just gotta shake 'em off. Shake 'em off. **ducks and waits for people to throw things**

@mistermaita

9 жыл бұрын

[throws thing]

@SonofTiamat

9 жыл бұрын

nick volta I'm mad!

@Redsoxking

9 жыл бұрын

You sing great

@mistermaita

9 жыл бұрын

tiakpark Hi, I'm Nick!

@averageytber5547

8 жыл бұрын

+Son of Tiamat Boondocks Reference?

Love you guys! 8-bit philosophy is one of the best series on KZread!

Finally! An episode on Diogenes!! Thanks 8-Bit Philosophy. And keep them coming.

Theres a double standard for haters believe it or not. If you dont like something youre not aware of, you just dont understand it If you actually do research, and have absolutely valid reasons for still not liking said thing, you're a "fan" now. It's weird.

I AM A LAMP

@jeniferjoseph9200

9 жыл бұрын

OKAY!

@philipstuckey4922

9 жыл бұрын

Are you a dadaist?

*“Haters gonna hate” is just a ridiculous excuse to dismiss all criticism. “if you don’t like it just don’t watch it huehuehue”.* *Some people still don’t understand that: disliking, having different opinions, or giving criticism =/= hate*

@chrisarillotta8090

8 жыл бұрын

Saying there isnt haters is like saying theres word hate doesnt exist.People who are offended by this word ussually are hater cause theyve been exosed you meant tell me everybody genuinely likes everybody else if they do its for good critisim. Get the fuck out here. Hater and critisim are two completely diffrent things. Your.comment alone proves to me iq2

@justafrenchkidtryingtospea9462

6 жыл бұрын

CaptainAlliance Your statement is dumb too. And why would you watch something you dont like just to talk shit about the person in the video or whatever? Its true if you dont like it just dont watch it instead of hating all days

@samcrumpit3081

6 жыл бұрын

I don't think it's as simple as that.

@senrye8273

6 жыл бұрын

CaptainAlliance You're correct, some people cannot take criticism, accept different view points, or/and that someone just doesn't like them. The comments above me either don't understand that =/= means "Doesn't equal" or are truly offended by this logic, which is weird. What the commenter said was "Not everything is hate" for those who didn't get it.

Awesome video, thank you!

I really like this video! Good job :D (also nice choice in using Mother 1 for this)

This was so well made and also researched but DAMN! I had to watch it twice cause the animations were so damn funny to look at. lol Keep it up.

More people should read Diogenes "This is how I roll!"

@nuckymancini7013

6 жыл бұрын

#AMEN

8-Bit You Rock! Thanks for making these videos.

Damn, how do you guys make these! The editing and style is insanely good.

More of this please.

Oh my gosh he is using Earthbkund Zero/ Mother in this video. I love the Mother games so much.

I love the little references to Diogenes with the trash can, the candle...

Never expected that you would use the Earthbound/Mother series for this! Still an awesome game, brings back so many memories. Thanks for the vid!

Live for this shit lol keep up the awesome videos guys, they always are informative and interesting to watch. In other words, OUT FUCKING STANDING

I've got to recommend 'Think' as well. Really great book that I read years ago that set me on the path to studying philosophy.

Another gem!

Diogenes would criticize the crap out of this video and most of the comments on it, including my own pretentious comment.

Seriously I really like these videos

This was an especially applicable video for me right now, as I have lately been considering the difference between the cynic and the hater, especially in concerns to things such as reviews and critical analysis on media that have become popular on KZread lately. Thanks for outlining the difference between the two. Although, by this description of Cynicism, it does seem to be a lifestyle of rather dramatic extremity. I shall have to consider it further, but as of now I am not sure that I am entirely on-board with it.

People often get cynics confused with pessimists.

Nice, is anything regarding Stoicism coming up? I have only been introduced to it but it seems very interesting.

@frankdelgrosso8297

6 жыл бұрын

You can read Marcus Auralius and Eppictitus online for free. Both have excelent works which are public domain. Sadly Diogenes didn't publish anything he is only mentioned by other phillosophers. A real shame.

I was about to buy Blackburn's 'Think' just now! Thank you 8-bit philosophy :')

You guys should create a Patreon. Those of us who aren't Player Haters would love to seen this channel succeed; it's great!

love that more people appreciate the other games in the mother series besides the more known Earthbound / mother 2

Realizing that nothing really matters does not lead one to view life as serious, but it is to accept perfect peace and joy. When you realize you do not need or want anything, you are truly free.

This is superb !

Great vid! Can you put Diogenes in brackets in the title? That way viewers know which philosopher is being discussed in the clip (akin to your other 8-bit philosophy videos)

It was wierd hearing the narrator sort of out of character. I still love this show, keep up the good work.

Hating does accomplish something, it makes someone feel better about them self.

I love this series just enough of an introduction to a topic to inspire further study and discussion. In my experience most 'haters' fall into three groups. The first group just likes to make people feel bad - whatever is the 'good' thing they just want make it ugly. The second group is jealous or secretly covetous of the thing they are hating on and lash out in order to misdirect attention. The final group believes that the world would be a great place if people would just do what they should and for whatever reason identify the object of their hate as the worst offender or easiest thing to get the world back on track. I am sure that is way too general but by and large those are the haters I have encountered and I believe I have been a member of each group at one or more times in my life. As to cynics I think you can be a hater and hold a cynical worldview at the same time. Kind of like a Buddhist Atheist -!who is certain there is no higher powers but striving to reach nirvana. Similarly I think a cynic is a hater who realized the best game is to not hate individual things or people but to hate everything equally.

@donjuanismo

Жыл бұрын

You left out WHY they hate? Haters are maliciously envious because they feel inadequate, failures in life, self-hatred, and therefore try to dissuade, deter or diminish other people's accomplishments, assets and success. ^ IDK WTF your final group is about. Makes no sense.

i love you audible!

Out freaking-Standing!!!

I love the earthbound theme in this video

I'm going to play Mother right now. Thanks for being so cool.

Best. 8-Bit Philosophy. Ever.

Genius use of Earthbound RPG

Thanks for the book recommendation. I love your show, although I rarely comment.

Great video highlighting the difference between those who truly reject conformity and the implied benefits of social acceptance, and those who simple condemn and mock conformity while still participating in it. Didn't provide an answer to "Why" though...

Hooray for Earthbound Zero love!

This is perfect.

Giving you guys props for using Mother.

I think people hate because they feel the need to have something to hate.

@dweliq2993

8 жыл бұрын

+Tricky Fox People hate because life is a piece of shit and people are angry about it, plus hating stuff is fun.

@berryfox7028

8 жыл бұрын

to a degree

@riffz6065

8 жыл бұрын

+Tricky Fox Or maybe you think that cause you feel the need to label everything, and when people hate it's actually because they just hate it?

@berryfox7028

8 жыл бұрын

labeling or not, some people just have bullshit reasons to hate things.

@dweliq2993

8 жыл бұрын

Tricky Fox As I said people hate because life = pure shit. As an example all I need to do is to claim that everything from intelligence to health is mostly genetics based with people having limited to no control over it and if you were a reasonable and intelligent person youd have to agree. But since the world is full of clueless self righteous morons who got handed everything for free and consider people who werent as lucky to be lazy, I am not optimistic about you being able to handle reality.

From my own observation the need to hate/dislike something comes from the inability to perceive nor understand the meaning behind someone's actions/purpose. this is attains to only peoples ideologies. for example if you took a mathematician and a carpenter and asked them to discuss their views on modern society a carpenter might see the creativity and the intrinsic value his trade has on society, and vice versa for the mathematician however neither one of them may see a considerable benefit of each-other trade over their own skills or beliefs. in short to hate something is to not understand it, to understand it is a true opinion.

You guys rock.

Nice!

We have nothing to hate but hate itself

@CarmillaCVamp

7 жыл бұрын

AndroidDoctorr What about hatred which creates virtues, such as hating to see people suffer and attempting to keep those people safe because you hate the idea of them suffering?

How about a video about Slavoj Žižek and ideology?

Diogenes = the first hipster.

@kobathedread

8 жыл бұрын

Sans the ironic beard.

@no.7443

8 жыл бұрын

Ryan Moore = Wrong

@Selderij

6 жыл бұрын

Hipsters sound a lot like the description for haters at 1:23 Diogenes opted for real action in life, something that hipsters arguably suck at.

@frankdelgrosso8297

6 жыл бұрын

No Diogenes would have mocked the hipsters even harder than he did the public. He poked at all the things we do which have no real meaning, like bying brand names to impress people. When asked what was his favorite type of wine he replied "that which belongs to others" pointing out that free wine is the best kind (he was homeles and jobless after all). He would not have replied "wine is so lame and mainstream I only drink ale". Diogenes would do as I do and when asked which brand he wanted would reply give me the cheapest one that will do the job of getting me drunk. That is not how hipsters think or do. There is a huge distinction between seeing the absurd and rejecting it and simply forming your own new absurdity to follow.

neither, I'm a nihilist that focuses on personal enjoyment. In other words I'm in my early 20's.

Why is no one acknowledging the fact that these visuals are from Mother?

Please do an episode on Bernard Mandeville and his The Fable of the Bees

best 8bit ever

Diogenes also had no stuff. Watch George Carlin's routine "stuff"and you will see, George was a modern Diogenes :)

@frankdelgrosso8297

6 жыл бұрын

George Carlin was a cynic for sure. Not as devoted as Diogenes but definitly thinking in the same vein.

That was pretty cool, showing the original cynic and kind of branding him the hipster of hipsters. Well thought out and well done sirs.

I need to go play Earthbound now.

Diogenes, the original punk rocker.

Poor lamp...

Audible are on their hustle. Every top KZreadr suggests them.

you should make the next episode about jean baudrillard or Gilles Deleuze

I take from both when the situation calls for it. Although I'll openly admit my bias when it comes to cynism or hate'n on those most deserving.

This video reminds me a little of the book "A Confederacy of Dunces". I'm reading it now, not done yet, so maybe the similarities will end, but interesting........

It'd be wonderful if you did one on Anarchism.

This is just what we need to get people in line on what it means to hate.

Could you please do existentialism.

Are you the one whose making the voice in Stanley`s Parable?

The problem with the phrase "haters gonna hate" is that it is uses as a get out of jail for free card for those who want to escape criticism and denounce the relevancy of those who live and think differently than themselves.

You just have to shake it off, shake it off

So Lao Tzu was the ultimate cynic?

@janicecolumbus4917

8 жыл бұрын

+Michael Nguyen Good question. I think he was.

@timramone8009

8 жыл бұрын

+Michael Nguyen just becase you live a simple life, it doesn't mean that you are a cynic.

Dude sounds so much like Kevan Brighting of Stanley Parable, there has to be a parody video somewhere in this...

Because the ego believes that putting others down can raise itself up. In reality it is not raising itself up its just bringing other down to its perceived low state thus making it feel more secure in that low state that it cannot raise itself out of. So the hating tends to have nothing to do with the actual subject matter but is primarily an automatic psychological movement. Therefore if you are receiving alot of hate it would be worth realising that although its directed at you it is still not personal because its got nothing to do with you and everything to do with the haters ego, thus the saying hater gonna hate.

These videos are really well done, kudos. But give me Wittgenstein! Give me Derrida! William James, Quine, or Rorty!

@TomHPMc

9 жыл бұрын

Jesus, I'd certainly be impressed if they managed to squeeze Later Wittgenstein into 3 minutes!

@WeAreShowboat

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that would be amazing. You'd almost have to make two different videos for early and late Wittgenstein. Even then, late Wittgenstein in 3 minutes would be a feat.

@WeAreShowboat

9 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, Derrida Dubstep. Let's do this!

@crimsonsamuraiftw

9 жыл бұрын

We Are Showboat They already did a video on your first three suggestions.

@WeAreShowboat

9 жыл бұрын

Oops, Derrida was done already, my bad. But I don't see Wittgenstein anywhere. James and Rorty were only done after my comment.

is 1:00 a dude taking a girl home, and showing off his awesome rooftop cynic suite? "I'm Andrew, but I now wanna be your kynos" *WIIINK*

the GOAT

Holy cow I finally have a word to describe myself

Cynic v. Realist is there a difference? (this a topic that be nice to see touched upon)

@nuckymancini7013

6 жыл бұрын

NO

Don't be hatin!

Earthbound FTW

damn, Mother is my favorite NES game

Is this show narrator THE Narrator from "The Stanley Parable"?!?!?!

This is a very positive account of Diogenese. Frankly, he was a loon. He was also only concerned with the good as he saw it. Although his commitment and moral courage cannot be doubted, if the record is to be believed, we can however doubt his mental state and his fitness to understand and comment on others. If you need a to corrective to this loon, try reading the insane ramblings of Jean Jacques Rousseau, his bastard son. JJR, filled with the modern version of cynicism, found something fab in nature and never really told us what it was he found. Most educational and other social policy has followed JJR's karaoke version of ancient cynicism. A dreadful rendition of an already grating tune. The results speak for themselves.

This is the edgiest video I have ever watched. A tip of my fedora and a like for you, sir!

@Gabe-ob8on

9 жыл бұрын

OH MAN UR SO ORIGINAL AHAHAHHA DAMN XDDDD IM LMAO WHILE ROFL. THIS MEME NEVER GETS OLD!!

@uloot

9 жыл бұрын

yee

What game is this?

I may not be an expert on philosophy but I do know several KZread channels run by haters dedicated to talking about everything they hate....

The Narrator reminds me of Stephen Fry.

I don't know. i try to live my life by my own values but my values do not seem to match diogenes's ideas. still love the video keep at it.

What's the difference between a cynic & a skeptic? All I know is that I'm skeptical about pretty much everything!

@iThoughtOfaUsername

7 жыл бұрын

A cynic assumes that things are malevolent until met with evidence to the contrary. A skeptic assumes nothing until evidence comes about.

A flaw that I find funny about Cynicism is that they proclaimed an independent and fully autonomus modus vivendi while at the same time begged for money on the streets, its like : "fuck you guys I dont need you or your rules ... By the way do you have any spare change or food ?" . Great series by the way , could you do something on stoics?

I get hated on a lot n i love bk in return its like the ultimate blow for them i laugh at haters its like if your life is date on hating me and you got nothing better to do than I felt pretty sorry for you seriously haters need to stop hating my philosophy is to love everybody everybody special in their own special way

Is this 8-bit Earthbound?

we got ourselves a cuppa haters

So what would be the cynics recommendation for the digital age?

@joshuaamoore

9 жыл бұрын

Take a hike.

@jeniferjoseph9200

9 жыл бұрын

Joshua Moore A literal hike?

@crimsonsamuraiftw

9 жыл бұрын

Jason93609 Into the Wild

@jeniferjoseph9200

9 жыл бұрын

Cynics can't recommend, they only reaffirm.

@sumarsh4554

9 жыл бұрын

Jenifer Joseph fuckin spot on! !!

Heck yeah, EarthBound Zero!