Frost was actually planned for this mission cause in the game files, there’s unused dialogue of Price talking to him directly

@Marik7453

Жыл бұрын

yea

@tomaxxghost6891

Жыл бұрын

Where can I find those dialogues?

@MOJO_JOJO701

Жыл бұрын

What does he say

@eliososa6878

Жыл бұрын

@@tomaxxghost6891 in Game archives

@syndicatepenguin8420

Жыл бұрын

@@MOJO_JOJO701 accdg to the wiki, Price yells “Westbrook” and “Frost”

Basically Jackson, Ramirez, Frost, AC-130 gunner, astronaut in MW2, Sgt. Burn are NPC alike but they are playable

@jedrickrebello2246

Жыл бұрын

Roach

@saidmass2

Жыл бұрын

NPC means - Non-Player Character. How does that make sense?

@ZimX63

Жыл бұрын

@@saidmass2 nah it mean non playable character

@saidmass2

Жыл бұрын

@@ZimX63 Google it

@fnm249sawtoo

Жыл бұрын

@@saidmass2 it's non playable character bro. If it's a non player character, then we the player still can play as the character. It will like the gta v character select wheel but with npcs instead

Frost got the "don't come to school tomorrow" by someone on the team and survived like that 💀

@Minchken

Жыл бұрын

Grinch must have told him that. It pays to be the quiet kid.

@TotallyNotARebel_550

4 ай бұрын

He is the one who didn't come to school and a school shooting happened.

As you stated before, Frost's callsign is Metal-04, which is said by Overlord in the Spec Ops mission, so Theory 2 is the most likely theory why Frost is absent in Down the Rabbit Hole

@tarheelpro87

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it sounds plausible to me, cause as Price, Sandman and the others get out with the president, self destructing the mine would make it harder for anyone to track them down from there, and might eliminate any high value targets that they are or aren’t aware of. Plus it’d be harder for the ultranationalists to report what happened.

@ChandranPrema123

8 ай бұрын

I mean there is a Spec Ops mission based on this level many people say its Frost considering that mission too takes place in This same level

@1212ruigen

7 ай бұрын

@@tarheelpro87 theory 2 would be impossible since price would have to be in both the mission frost was missing in and the one he would be doing? therefore theory 2 gets debunked by itself

@srxdeadpool9006

7 ай бұрын

No, he was in a control room somewhere in the building, he's the one who caused the explosions at the end of the mission

@Vox-53

6 ай бұрын

In special ops overlord said metal 04 and that was Frost’s callsign

Metal 0-4 is the callsign of Frost, so Frost really impact "Down the rabbit hole" mission. It's a detail, but a nice one for who like the story of this trilogy (like me).

@aleccross3535

Жыл бұрын

I did not understand a single thing

@jaydeleon8094

Жыл бұрын

what?

@obiwankenobi1003

Жыл бұрын

Oh no, where's godzilla

@muhammadrayhanfirdaus1309

Жыл бұрын

If you look closely on New York and Berlin mission, Metal team/squad led by Sandman has a number after the callsign. Sandman = Metal 0-1 (Zero-One, means leader), Truck = Metal 0-2 (Zero-Two), Grinch = Metal 0-3 (Zero-Three), and Frost = Metal 0-4 (Zero-Four). In the video, Metal 0-4 is mentioned by overlord with it's order to blow up the mine, or some part of it.

@alistairvan4059

Жыл бұрын

@@muhammadrayhanfirdaus1309 If frost was ordered to blow up the mine, why can't overlord tell him to blow up the mine after the president and everyone with him get out.

2:39 if this is canon, it’s possible that the team planned to destroy the mine but didn’t expect the to nearly get overrun by the end

@MalosiAudios

Жыл бұрын

That’s what I’m thinking, hence Delta Squad sacrificing themselves. There were just too many people.

@Nomad958

Жыл бұрын

and this canon to where he was i don't remember where i saw it was said

@cubranco-rg8bg

3 ай бұрын

​@@Nomad958shut UP look tô u pfp

Frost should have been a playable character on this mission and Yuri should have appeared as NPC, since he already appearce as NPC in Dust To Dust and is generally more pronounced character. This would also gave Yuri more time to be shown as full character, since in MW trilogy characters are presented in more limited, narrow way when playable.

@Rinde007

Жыл бұрын

Would of made the end 10x more sad, a Delta being forced th o watch his bro th hers die

@reginaldcopperbottom468

Жыл бұрын

@@Rinde007 Or maybe even doing a last stand with your squad

@CT--6666

8 ай бұрын

@@reginaldcopperbottom468 At the end of the mission if you would play as frost: *New objective: buy time for the chopper* Then just you replaying that mission if it would be like this, you would say „It’s been an honour boys. 🫡 „

@airtiger4577

2 ай бұрын

​@CT--6666 Or the objective would be "protect yuri" since the former spetsnaz member gets incapacitated temporarily and then truck and price drag yuri to the chopper.

(Not so) Short answer: Jackson, Roach, Ramirez and Frost aren't characters. They're player vehicles to get you through the missions. The devs didn't write their personality because there isn't any. IW said that they wanted player to experience the story without taking part into it, which I personally think it's done very poorly as it leads to awkward moments where the player has to speak and they just stay silent (BF4 did the same and its MUCH worse). There were rare exclusions to that rule with Price at the end of MW3 and Yuri as he is actually a character yet you play as him and yet they still chose to keep him silent besides the flashback level. That kind of creative inconsistency looks bad. Long answer? [Insert Fan Theory Here]

@maskedwonder

Жыл бұрын

Hey SPi, nice seeing u here

@mortexcz1558

Жыл бұрын

I think its great idea beacause The player connect with The charakter and feels like he is the soldier When I played the game for first time, it made me feel the story more and I liked it In the new cods like mw2 2022 you are playing with character with personality and I didn't enjoyed the camping that much (Sorry for my bad english) Btw big fan of your custom camping

@MajorAlex

Жыл бұрын

That's the one theory I believe in as well...

@alphacodyt

Жыл бұрын

So they were not characters at all? It's weird, I feel like in all these missions, I was Reznov talking to Mason (in the missions after the prison break), but they brought the Roach character in COD MOBILE, so if he's not a character, he shouldn't be there as a character, right? (The answer was also short :)

@mortexcz1558

Жыл бұрын

@@alphacodyt technically he is character but with no personality. I didn't played black ops so I don't know how it work there

It's rather ironic seeing Yuri is silent throughout the time we play as him (except flashback), only for him to get a full fledged model and stuff in the final mission. What I wanna say is, IW simply could've allowed us to play as Frost in this level, with Yuri beside us, behaving like he did in Dust to Dust. It wouldn't have been much of a hassle for the Dev's, and would've fit the scenario perfectly.

@Take-aim-and-reload...

Жыл бұрын

He actually said a few things in the intro of some missions. Mission: "Back on the Grid" *Soap:* _"So where do we start hunting?"_ *Yuri:* _"Africa. Makarov's been using local paramilitary force to move shipment into Sierra Leone. From there, they go towards Morocco. And into Spain."_ *Soap:* _"He's moving North."_ *Price:* _"Right towards Her Majesty's doorstep. What's the cargo?"_ *Yuri:* _"I don't know, but it's important to him."_ *Price:* _"Then I want it."_ Mission: "Eye of the Storm" *Yuri:* _"Makarov's council altogether in the middle of a warzone? Sounds convenient."_ *Price:* _"Overconfidence makes you careless."_ Mission: "Blood Brothers" *Soap:* _"Which vehicle will he be in?"_ *Yuri:* _"They constantly rotate their security. We won't know until he steps out."_ *Soap:* _"You seem to know a lot about Makarov."_

@ibrahimboral1361

Жыл бұрын

​@@Take-aim-and-reload... yes but he dont talk when you playing as hım, i see that nice thing with mason, Alex mason .. "reloading" enemy down" cover me im reloading" "grenade out" . Things like that so.

@cottoneyejoe8285

7 ай бұрын

The issue lies with the fact that Yuri was injured in Down the Rabbit Hole and had to be dragged to the chopper. Playing as Frost, you would have had your back to him, and wouldn't see the last stand of Metal Team in the same way.

@Axl4325

7 ай бұрын

@@cottoneyejoe8285 then give him the Yuri treatment. Same mission, same playable character but now Frost is the fourth member of team Metal in the mission and doesn't die in the elevator crash, voice lines and all. I think they could have just used one of the multiplayer voices and tell the actor to record a few extra lines if it was needed for his character (which I doubt)

He would be KIA with the rest of the team. After the Hamburg mission (Rhino 1 and the Vice President Hostage Rescue), he was promoted to Captain Rank and led his own seperate unit in the Delta Force, similar to Sandman.

@jonkersjcomers

Жыл бұрын

our boi got his own team:]

@pounc3r782

Жыл бұрын

Sgt to Captain yea sure lol

@k1ng_BL0C

Жыл бұрын

@@pounc3r782 literally, battlefield commissions start at lieutenant

@badluck7286

Жыл бұрын

He took part in rescuing Alena, we can see his POV in the "Down the Rabbit Hole" (I think) Spec ops mission where he is the one to set the charges to the cave system, he even is referred to by his callsign "Metal-04"

@LeesDeeds

Жыл бұрын

I Thought Only NCOs Were On The Field For Delta Force

That explosion at the end of black ice was a small explosion and wasnt the reason sandman died, if you actually watch the end of dtrh the explosions are coming from helicopters, so if frost was in black ice he didnt kill them.

@reclaimer0018

Жыл бұрын

also he could be the guy shutting down the aa guns in fire mission

There are 2 theories: Theory 1 (before looking up spec ops mission black ice): Frost was injured while trying to rescue Alena. He is likely to have sustained rib damage or cracks which could have caused him to be unfit to continue the mission and is either hospitalized or providing off-site assistance with overlord (through internal radio) but we “the player” don’t hear. Theory 2 (spec ops black ice mission): His injuries were minor and with his actions throughout the war, he is promoted to be a delta squad leader and goes through black ice per mission gameplay.

@mnguy98

Ай бұрын

I always figured that being on the wrong end of a door-breach while rescuing Alena would've injured him severely enough; Sandman is clearly shown landing on Frost's leg, and 250+ pounds of soldier and kit landing on your leg that way definitely isn't going to do that leg any favors

Probably command saw a much better use for frost’s skills, put him on solo to assist TF 141 and delta force, then is told to self destruct the place but does not know it was the wrong timing to set it off

@withsherif4743

Жыл бұрын

Thats actually a good theory man

@nerdTimmyswork

Жыл бұрын

Nah in the mission he was told when to plant and destruct it by overlord wasn't frost fault

I think every cod game needs to have heavy skill based matchmaking. To even out the gameplay.

@alphacodyt

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it would be great

@Epsilon-18

Жыл бұрын

Yes, Ramirez too

@nebiyuesayas5600

Жыл бұрын

Same, maybe Ramirez too as one of the Vaqueros

@ar1299gaming

Жыл бұрын

I feel Alex us sandman

@holdencross5904

Жыл бұрын

@@alphacodyt I could see them extending the story into more games. MW3 and MW4. I really enjoyed Metal Team and I just found it odd. Whenever we’ve had a chopper there has been a door mounted minigun. If there had been one of those then Metal team would’ve survived.

Mw3’s campaign is so much like an action movie. I like to imagine if it was there would he a scene of Team metal, Frost and tf141 all setting out on a helipad. Frost walks up to price or Sandman and says “give em hell” before walking to his new squad

@withsherif4743

Жыл бұрын

And his squad has like mg’s, rpg’s and what-not

If you ask me frost was riding around the mine in a snow mobile and was on a different part of the map

@yesiam.461

Жыл бұрын

Finally some braincells

@astra4533

Жыл бұрын

aint that what was in the video

@aurorialgaming1935

Жыл бұрын

Not just above ground either, when he arrived underground he added tires and terrorized the reinforcements too.

@KadenHartley

3 ай бұрын

​@@aurorialgaming1935Thats my boy 🥲

That spec ops tie in blew my mind honestly you might be on to something there I never thought about it that way. I have always felt the spec ops missions were connected to the main story in some elusive way. Very excellent video!

I think Frost did kill his teamates, seeing as Overlord names "Metal 0-4" which was Frosts callsign. Also because of how often they tie the main story to the spec ops in this game.

@BeanMartinVEVO

Жыл бұрын

Metal 0-4 would be the callsign for the 4th element in the team, not unique to Frost himself. So Team Metal would have Metal 0-1 through 0-4, regardless of who the individual element is

@knightmare1267

Жыл бұрын

@Bean Martin VEVO except Cod did it as first number = squad, second number = individual. That's why Price is Bravo 0-6 in the new games. Even on a loading screen you can see that despite being 1 squad, every member of MW3s Delta team has different call signs. Sandman is 0-1, Grinch is 0-2, Truck 0-3, and Frost 0-4.

@goldenhedgehog9

Жыл бұрын

@@knightmare1267 The loading screen has them listed all as Metal zero 1 through 4. Metal 0-4 is only Frost's callsign because he is the 4th member of the team. If he was moved to a different team and someone else took his place, Frost doesn't take that callsign with him, the new person's callsign is becomes Metal 0-4.

@kengiro0599

Жыл бұрын

I think it was just a oversight by the developers

@Xen0411

2 ай бұрын

​@@goldenhedgehog9maybe overlord assign him to this mission like he as a juggernaut collecting radioactive sample solo mission

I've always asked myself that question, but man, he definitely deserved some rest after Hamburg. 😂

@ayo_danni

Ай бұрын

what happened in Hamburg?

i think it's simply just an overlook. COD games involve hundreds and thousands of people working on it and it's easy to forget a minor character.

@counterman-namreview516

Жыл бұрын

i dont think a playable character who player stick with half of the game can be called "minor"

@prizrak-br3332

Жыл бұрын

They didn't forget the SAS guys from COD4 during the SAS mission in MW3, they wouldn't forget Frost, if he isn't in the mission there must be a good reason for it.

@ssww3

Жыл бұрын

In a game i played as a kid one dev forgot a person in the game so it's possible

@Oneiroi0

Жыл бұрын

@@ssww3 different scenarios.

@AmyCherryLMAO

8 ай бұрын

​@@prizrak-br3332hes apparently in the spec ops mission that takes place on the same level

Down the Rabbit hole would've been better if we got to play as Frost.

@tomaxxghost6891

Жыл бұрын

If we actually changed trough the mission from Frost to Yuri in the middle of the mission

@brixenlang3207

Жыл бұрын

imagine if they could swap perspectives based on a specific part of the mission

@frost3193

Жыл бұрын

@@brixenlang3207 Yup just like the mission "Iron Lady" 2 playable characters and perspectives in one mission

MW3 was a Miracle considering the development. If they where given the time, my bet is that YURI would have been an NPC and we would have played as Frost in this mission.

@worminaround

2 ай бұрын

I donno why when I was a kid I kinda liked Frost, maybe his missions were fun af, Yuri was still my fav in the cast,

Poor MCcoy hé died so quickly

@thatguywhousesr3105

Жыл бұрын

Hes probably just a DCcoy. Get it? Decoy? You know.... Yeah this one is bad

@dragonlord1997

Жыл бұрын

Tobey Maguire

@bigcuz4689

Жыл бұрын

Wow that was bad 😂

@Witheredddddd

7 ай бұрын

Poor man didn't even make it out of the elevator

@DrkTheNewGuy

Ай бұрын

Bro only had 1 line too 😂

Did you know that we are Frost in a spec ops mission.I don't remember which special ops mission but in the mission Overlord said "Metal 0-4,Make your way to the stock exchange....." so I think its Frost

@alphacodyt

Жыл бұрын

Yes, we play as Frost in some Spec Ops missions

@yesiam.461

Жыл бұрын

@@alphacodyt black ice.

@nomislam9030

Жыл бұрын

​@@alphacodytspec ops are canon,their IS two Of them That are Frost training with The Delta Force

Imagine this Frost is înjured and waits for his Delta Team to come back but he sees Price with some dogtags

@babycarrotz32

Жыл бұрын

That would make for a badass cinematic/cutscene.

@bigcuz4689

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but impossible to get those tags

@charvydeliquina5120

Жыл бұрын

Price come back with Yuri and President without Delta Team

@thealex2971

Жыл бұрын

@@babycarrotz32 I know But lets say someway or alternative cutscene Delta Team give their dogtags to Price (if you ask me making a emotial scene)

@ssww3

Жыл бұрын

@@bigcuz4689 true

It’s probably just because they didn’t want to go through the trouble of giving him a character model and voice actor for one mission, or have the dissonance and weirdness of him being a silent and masked NPC. Honestly it would have made more sense to have Frost be the playable character in this one, with Yuri as the NPC, since Yuri already had a voice actor and NPC model. I like the theories in this video as in universe explanations though, especially theory 2.

The Spec Ops could very well be what Frost was really doing at the same time... But I don't know if Spec Ops missions are canon

@nosense8744

Жыл бұрын

Yes they are, atleast in MW3 they take place in other place of each battle

@tomaxxghost6891

Жыл бұрын

@@nosense8744 Good to know

My personal head canon (idk if SpecOps are canon but they might be) is that for some reason, Frost got wounded and couldn't partake. After he recovers and learns that Sandman and the other Delta men sacrificed themselves, Price recruits him as a new member of 141. Maybe he has some issues (having lost Soap, Yuri, Roach, Gaz, and the whole betrayal thing), but Frost is a well-trained ex-Spec Force op and it goes well.

Finally, a video focusing on Frost. Man is a badass. Also, I think theory 2 is the most plausible hypothesis.

Theory 2 is actually canon to the story.

@brawlstarssponsorships

Жыл бұрын

Says who?

@HazmattMorningstar

Жыл бұрын

@@brawlstarssponsorships Overlord referred to the Operator in Theory 2 as "Metal 0-4" Which is literally Frost's callsign.

@brawlstarssponsorships

Жыл бұрын

@@HazmattMorningstar Not confirmed by the developers though. Lots of spec ops missions are made just for fun.

@HazmattMorningstar

Жыл бұрын

@@brawlstarssponsorships Since when did developers have to say something was canon for it to be canon? Going by that logic, nothing in any game is canon unless the developers confirmed it, so like are you telling me no campaign missions in Modern warfare 3 are canon because the developers haven't confirmed it? Or that Shepherd didn't really betray us, or that Ghost and Roach never really died. going by that logic these never actually happened because the Developers haven't confirmed it.

@brawlstarssponsorships

Жыл бұрын

@@HazmattMorningstar Ok.

I like to believe he was just WIA in Scorched Earth and couldn't come to the mission. Keep in mind that Frost was apparently providing Overwatch for Kingfish (the long pincer movement that explains why Price was found in a gulag in MW2), so with his absence, Price and Frost are the sole survivors of Kingfish. And who knows, maybe Price just died at the end of MW3 where he's smoking a cigar, and Frost is just the only one left standing.

I like to think that he stayed top side with everyone else as the joint team went in, but theory wise I would accept this as the reason why if it was 2 player, if it wasn't then frost is more of a beast than all of them doing that by his lonesome.

He was there but who knows.. Hard to say, maybe he wasn't and it is just spec ops mission.. Anyways.. In 2:38 Overlord calls Metal 0-4 and that's Frost which is mentioned in video and that is interesting point.

I love you're theories they make sence imo

02:19 ay yo, what is this mission? I have spent hours in cod mw3 spec ops and I never saw this mission.

@star_t1

Жыл бұрын

Spec ops DLC mission

@batot3617

Жыл бұрын

@@star_t1 oh alright, thx

I would love to see frost reappear in the future with actual voice lines that gave more depth to him

I always wondered why Frost was not in this mission. Finally, someone made a video on this decade-long question that I have had. I thought it was because he was injured in action.

There was dialogue of price talking to frost in the game files. So Frost was supposed to be in this mission but was cut later in the game’s development

Now i know why frost not come to this mission Thanks for the information 00:57 why he's name pieces? 02:47 they active the bom is too early, that why diamond mine was explode So we lost sandman,Grinch, and truck

I think the reason why Frost didn't come to this mission is because he didn't want to die or he is taking care of something a mission before that

Good Video My Friend!

@alphacodyt

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Omg finally, these are the real questions and I must know the answers. I Love Frost I hope they add more background to him in MW3 Remastered.

I always thought it was the same mission at the same time and Frost was clearing a secondary objective

If you keep looking down there you can see sandman and grinch both due then truck throws a grenade and he turns back and he doesn't see any of the evac heli and idk what happend after

The wiki for Frost actually mentions the special op with Metal-04 but it’s up for speculation whether it’s canon.

Yooooo I always wondered where the hell was Frost in that mission, those memories of playing the Modern Warfare trilogy in my PS3 just came flooding in.

This is the question I’ve always asked and wondered

@alphacodyt

Жыл бұрын

Me too :)

@ghostwhencodghosts9114

Жыл бұрын

@@alphacodyt ive been searching for an answer for 10 years i guess cod fans are this braindead that they had nk idea where he was

Theory 2 is super cool and dark and makes sense, sending only one person to set the self destruction while there's a war in their backyard is very smart

I heard that frost is there during that mission “Down the rabbit hole” but the issue is that he is the one who causes the death of Grinch, sandman and truck since the mission he is on there is started in spec ops

Not only are they're voice lines in the game files showing Frost was going to be present for Delta Force's final mission but if you look at Yuri's first person model when he jumps over the railing he has Frost's. In MW3 remastered when First and Sandman breach the door they should make it so Frost gets piece of shrapnel through his leg. That was always my head canon as to why he was suddenly absent. Sure Sandman was in front of him but not only did they get blown back but they also fell through the floor. They could incorporate more of that in the remaster.

@Running_haitani

Жыл бұрын

He has a reason for being absent though, if you've played spec ops you'd see because he has the task of blowing up the mine. Which is incidentally how the rest of his squad ends up dead

@TheNuisanceBird

Жыл бұрын

@@Running_haitani I have played that mission but it’s questionable on how canon it is and if I remember correctly it was a DLC one. So during the campaign development Frost was likely taken out for other reasons.

Fun fact in the elevator sometimes mccoy would have a changed model and name and u can get the model of frost and even his name u can keep restarting for it to happen because it happened to me

he was planned and probably we will see him on one of early build of MW3 if they exists

Derek was in that mission, just working behind the scenes under a different mission codenamed: “Black Ice”, where he destroyed the mine. There’s no other canonical theory of why the mine exploded besides the mission “Black Ice”.

The second theory is the most accurate for the simple reason that it is a dlc and that it would not make much sense for Frost to disguise himself as pieces for the mission. In conclusion, Frost is one of the few protagonists they Are alive

@willhornsby206

Ай бұрын

spec ops isn't dlc. It's litterally part of the games package.

I always assumed he just got injured and couldn’t participate being he went through a lot in scorched earth, because the spec ops are alternative missions based on the campaign.

This actually reminded me of a thing Delta can do which is opt out of a mission if they're 100% "there". Saw an interview on a podcast of a former Delta guy and that made me think Frost opted out since they were already committing so many assets, they couldn't afford to lose all of Delta.

He was a co-pilot in a helicopter, if you look through the noclip console, you can see his model.

I had a mod for xbox 360 that freezes the AI of the npcs. And when i went on that mission all of the npcs was in a T-pose (because the mod freezes the npcs on the 1st frame before they start their animations) but i saw frost on the lift in a A-pose and McCoy was not there. so i think when the mission starts frost is there for like 1 frame before it swaps to the McCoy model. but when the mission starts the screen is black so you don't get to see it

There is another member of team metal aka Gator but he is kinda a background NPC in the “Iron Lady” mission but the wiki says he does have plot armor. I’d imagine him and Frost could’ve been called in to do something else

They should've made Frost playable in the level, but you play as Yuri after the helicopter goes down. And then another spec ops mission sees Frost with the rest of Metal team during the explosions, but after the collapse he wakes up and Truck/ Grinch tells him Sandman and the other teammate is gone, and it becomes a journey to escape the ruins, but the efforts are feeble because a boulder falls onto them after a minute (the level is timed to be 1 minute long after the collapse, like Aftermath in COD4- after you fall from the helicopter the level is on an invisible timer)

If COD MW2019 was instead a continuation of COD MW3 I always thought Alex being Frost was a cool concept and that his ‘sacrifice’ in the mission Game Over was to make amends for what happened here. The reason I like Alex being Frost is because lore wise Alex was a Delta Force operator who becomes a CIA agent so it kinda lines up with the hypothetical.

@senseless_yurei9433

Жыл бұрын

frost and roach are siblings and since i dont think it ever says if alex has brothers while a very cool theroy it just doesnt work yk

@HGJ8Productions

Жыл бұрын

@@senseless_yurei9433 Frost and Roach are siblings? I'm interested to know what you mean by this

@senseless_yurei9433

Жыл бұрын

​@@HGJ8Productions According to google (not some fan page more like his profile page) He has two younger brothers named James Ellison, Gary "Roach" Sanderson, and Danny Ellison.

@weplo1597

8 ай бұрын

@@senseless_yurei9433 But Roach is british or canadian while Frost is american.

@shauntempley9757

7 ай бұрын

That could be because they are half siblings. We know of real life families that are like that. Take Bruce Forsyth, the British game show host. His half brother is the Forsyth from Dynasty, an American, and both detested each other, to the point they never spoke after reaching adulthood. Yet, both were said to be really nice men to interact and talk with.@@weplo1597

There won’t be a theory that Sandman died due to Frost trigger self-destruct sequence, because it was involve in combat cooperation: Sandman was sent to that mine with his mission is save Vorshevsky and his daughter, but in the same operation Frost was sent to mine control center to trigger self destruct sequence, both Frost and Sandman must have informed that Sandman is in a hostage rescue mission deep inside the mine and Frost won’t do it if Sandman team is still inside, of course command won’t authorise Frost to do so, except command order Frost to do that

In coop apparently you play as frost when you ride a snowmobile down into the mine and have to get to a room where you cause the mine to collapse but idk if it's Canon

I think he was likely injured in Germany, at the end of the mission the team is almost killed by a booby trapped door with frost as one of the closest to it. However so was sandman and he still participated.

That first mission, i found some NPC that look like Frost too so, i think they just have Frost models spawn as random Npc like Ramirez.

Spec ops mission black ice the character is referred to metal 0-4 which is Frost, in this mission you blow up a mine to let TF141, delta force and the president escape. This clearly is the not case as Delta force dies so Frost accidentally killed his teammates to end the war

Ngl everytime i hear Overlord speak, i get a wave of nostalgia

I’ve always wondered this and was disappointed he wasn’t in this level. The CoD wiki doesn’t really have an explanation either.

Well this was interesting… . Nice

Most likely, he was W.I.A in scorched earth. Overload would tell frost that the delta team and tf141 would be there, also the fact that overload was also in down the rabbit hole.

Frost was in this mission, he was in the dlc called black ice, you can play as him while riding a snowmobile, gunning enemies around the rabbit hole, he's basically clearing the path for sandman and price's team, and at the end of the dlc mission, frost pushed a button that made the hole explode, so in short, frost accidentally killed his team.

@thegageinator805

Жыл бұрын

Didn't watch this video all the way through, did ya?

@TreatMySoul

Жыл бұрын

@@thegageinator805 yes I did, I just put this comment here to make it clear

Theory 2 is the best, I remember years ago playing it & thinking Spec Ops is intertwined with the campaign so it makes sense Frost was there just a different mission. Weird how the developers don’t clear it up maybe they’re not asked so much about it

Frost is in the spec ops mission on the outskirts the diamond mine on the snow mobile

I read online that frost was injured and sss left to recuperate while his team helped price

I always thought he got PTSD in the mission cuz of the building dropping on him but it is a good question to be asked lol

If there’s an indeed mw3 remaster coming I hope they add him into the mission!

I heard back in those years that as result of Frost heroic actions in prevoius missions he was given the command of another delta squad and that's the reason why he is not there. Now that I think about it there was another theory (althought I'm sure this one is completely fake but interesting anyway) that said that originaly there was a MW4 game planned where Price would create another TF141 with McMillan taking the place of Sheperd and including characters like Nikolai, Frost, Dunn, Foley, Ramirez, Burns and Walcott

@nomislam9030

Жыл бұрын

That could have been insane,but i BET That if it happened,sgt Foley and cpl Dunn sacrificed there lives for Ramirez, Then there would be another final stand with the tf141 were Frost planted bombs under a bridge ( where the last stand will happen) telling Price to leave him behind and dies while Price gets Flashbacks Of his Friends been killed😢

We need to see again the guys in next Modern warfare specially sandman and frost

He was the one who blew then up in the spec ops mission black ice he plants the explosives

thank you answering literally an 11-year old question i had in my head ever since. lol

@alphacodyt

Жыл бұрын

Happy to help!

Frost killing his team is such a goofy plot twist

i think that the soldier in the side mission it s him because when the soldier entered in the control room Overlord says ''Metal 0-4" and that s the Frost Callsign

a massive rip to the fallen heroes we lost

Glade to see I am not the only one who wondered this since 2011. Yeah it's a real mystery why the devs decided to not add Frost in this mission, a real shame, always wanted him to be in it. On the bright side, Frost got to live. Also, I never got to play this spec ops mission so this is my first time knowing it's real content. I had zero chances to connect the dots. Edit: 3:16 Also, as much it is a memorable and beautiful scene, it IS incredibly ridiculous how not a single enemy shot nor an RPG hit them (except for Sandman in his neck).

Frost was my favorite mw3 character. Playing as frost was just so cool.

@UNGOC_Engineer3231

Жыл бұрын

same

@Baddy_bunny

Жыл бұрын

For me, He's got The essence of Doom Slayer. Always silent, just doing with actions.

@edmondnwamoh6830

Жыл бұрын

The truth is I will you want to play as frost in the campaign and online multiplayer

I always said if they did mw4 it would be price and frost as survivors dealing with losing their teams

As a I kid I kept looking for him because he was my favorite to play

Frost was an old informat of shepherds and wanted to get them killed but failed when he separated. He now has disappeared in the world never to be found

Frost was injured in a lot of missions like when he nearly fell of the helicopter in the first mission and the rubble that nearly hit him in the mission that they failed to save the presidents daughter in

@edmondnwamoh6830

Жыл бұрын

I think frost got lucky he’s used Sandman gun to save his life if it weren’t for him, sandman would die they can’t be frost in the other mission

Frost was actually used in the Special Ops mission that’s happening alongside “Down the Rabbit Hole.” I don’t remember the name of the mission off the top of my head, I’ll have to Google it.

0:25 Director: Mccoy! You are supposed to be dead! Mccoy: Okay. (dies)

@alphacodyt

6 ай бұрын

Poor Mccoy :(

Overlord calls him metal 04 in the spec ops mission and that spec ops mission only so that is actually frost in that mission

I hope in Modern Warfare 3 Remastered (if there's going to be ever, or at least MW3 Campaign Remastered), they bring back Frost in Down the Rabbit Hole as NPC, or letting us play as him, and leaving Yuri as NPC. If they let us play as Frost, Price and Yuri carries us to chopper with the President. Leaving Yuri behind is literally not sensible. If we stay as Yuri, Frost (I'm sad) should stay behind with Sandman and others, to protect Yuri, Price and the President. Or Frost comes back in Dust to Dust as NPC with different Juggernaut suit (light armored, its visor is similar as his own) and raising hell upon Oasis Hotel with Price and Yuri. Man, my hands are trembling :D

@alphacodyt

Жыл бұрын

hope you are well! In my opinion, if they return Frost, the story line may change...

Theory 1 is stupid because when Frost was "Injured" He was running and walking perfectly fine. Theory 2 is actually the correct one.

@nastyrodriguez

Жыл бұрын

You can walk when injured, i fractured 2 ribs when i fell of my dad's bike and walked for a while before throwing up and passing out, adrenaline goes hard.

@radthearchopolist2459

Жыл бұрын

@NastyRodriguez But, cam you keep on running perfectly without limping a bit? I know his Special Forces but it seems impossible for the human body to run perfectly, It could be just a developer overlook and we are just delving in too deep.

@HazmattMorningstar

Жыл бұрын

@@radthearchopolist2459 You may have a point there, but it doesn't change the fact Theory 2 is the correct one. It's actually canon to the game.

I really hope the delta force squad is one of the main squads in the new mw3

That third theory makes sense the most

I don't wanna think Frost killed Metal team. It was just bad timing between everyone, with the enemy overwhelming the rescue team in the last part.

Had I been involved with making the game, Frost would either be an NPC helping Team Metal, or the playable character involved in the final stand as Price and Yuri get the president to the chopper.

@benwilson1663

Жыл бұрын

Imagine Frost working with Price and Yuri in Dust to Dust

I've been wondering this for years

actually, theory 2 makes more sense than theory 1, so it seems that frost caused the death of delta force also, awesome video!