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@carminadelarosa6892

2 ай бұрын

❤

" undiluted and undisturbed, but..." 😂

@spikenikz

2 ай бұрын

But efficacius. Tsk3x the usual prot response.

@patricktinley6545

29 күн бұрын

Provide quotes from the documents where the fath was diluted or disturbed.

Vatican II protestantized the Church ?

@rachelpops9239

Ай бұрын

Oh honey its a whole thing; watch Mass of the Ages

@frans3950

Ай бұрын

no.

@bradleykimmons

Ай бұрын

No

A disaster of epic proportions

@stephenjohnson9632

2 ай бұрын

Catholic Church dies without Vatican 2

@BergoglioBadLung

2 ай бұрын

@@stephenjohnson9632Not even close to being true.

@bradleykimmons

Ай бұрын

Not at all a disaster

@mariacook8540

Ай бұрын

@@stephenjohnson9632 LOL

@patricktinley6545

29 күн бұрын

There's correlation, then there's causation. The social revolution was taking place at the same time. THAT was causation.

And what are the fruits of V2

@andym5995

2 ай бұрын

Vastly improved biblical studies. Catechetical formation programs. Emphasis on patristics and scripture in moral theology. Greater participation in the liturgy. A catechism that places pursuit of virtue over “thou shalt not” declarations. A positive, forward-looking outlook in the Church instead of condemning. Apps, books, websites, channels, etc for evangelization. I could go on.

@user-be2jq9ry7y

2 ай бұрын

@@andym5995 sounds like for benefit of clergy, should be for benefit of parishioners.

@andym5995

2 ай бұрын

@@user-be2jq9ry7y I’m curious how you arrived at that conclusion. Every single one of those things is meant for the laity (and where do the clergy come from? The laity)

@user-be2jq9ry7y

2 ай бұрын

As a parishioner and convert I didn’t join the Church for the intellectual stimulation of dissecting moral theology and critiquing biblical studies. The Church pre-V2 built Christendom. I wanted something eternal. There should be awe and wonder and respect and dignity and ritual and formality appropriate for the Lord’s Supper. I didn’t have to participate, it’s enough to be in His presence. Grateful instead of demanding. Thinking to bring God down to our level seems foolish and shallow.

@andym5995

2 ай бұрын

@@user-be2jq9ry7y The Church built Christendom, and the Church is the same. You really should be interested in biblical studies and evangelization, because that’s how the Church maintains Christendom in our decadent age.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

This is the oddest KZread recommendation of all time. I'm struggling to think what I watched to trigger the algorithm to put this in my lineup.

@kike0260

2 ай бұрын

I Wonder why you say that, but please look up into catholicism because it a whole world of getting to know the fulness of God

@dogberry20

2 ай бұрын

@kike0260 I know more about Catholicism than most Catholics. Been there, done that, and not interested in a repeat performance. But pax tecum.

@DoubleDogDare54

2 ай бұрын

I keep getting stupid cat videos of cats slapping each other - and I've never owned a cat.

@dogberry20

2 ай бұрын

@DoubleDogDare54 That's funny. I'm a total animal lover, and I never get animal videos. Apparently, silly cat videos make up 99% of KZread, and I've never seen one.

@joshualopez9175

2 ай бұрын

@@dogberry20 If you don't mind me asking, why not interested?

Teaching the docteinws of man foe the commandmnets of GOD. Peopq i encourage you to read the wor of GOD for yourself. Pray and ask for the power of the Holy Spirit to help you understand.

How old is this guy?

@dogberry20

2 ай бұрын

41 or 42... why?

@valtercosta4894

2 ай бұрын

3000 is a principale

Vatican II shouldn't be controversial. It was important to bring the church into the future.

@douggauzy6258

2 ай бұрын

Yep ! A false church . God does not recognize the Rosary nor does God recognize Mary as a co - contributor to one’s salvation . Mary had other children besides Jesus . 4 boys and girls. Matthew 13:55

@stephengnb

2 ай бұрын

@@douggauzy6258 Oh, really? And what is the true church, my uninformed friend?

@stephengnb

2 ай бұрын

@@douggauzy6258 John 19:26-27 Why would Jesus say this to his mother and disciple if his mother had other sons to take care of her?

@stephengnb

2 ай бұрын

@@douggauzy6258 And the Catholic Church doesn't recognize Mary as a co-contributor to salvation. Please understand the Catholic Church's teachings rather than make up things. If you know the Catholic Church's teachings but disagree with them, then we can have a discussion about that. But if you don't even know what the actual teachings of the Catholic Church are, then we won't be able to have a discussion.

@DoubleDogDare54

2 ай бұрын

When you change something you automatically make it into something it previously was not. And that's what V2 did in spades.

The Catholic involved in controversy?!?! You don t say 🤨

This ai not the Church as God would have it. He who sits in the place of GOD, wanting to be called GOD and receiving worship as GOD (AKA Pontifex Maximus). Blasphemy. Daniel 7:25, Revelation 13)

@pams-pl1ys

2 ай бұрын

you've been lied to, that isn't the teaching