This guy is amazing. I seen clips of him in Mexico and bro is like somebody else.
@dionroberts2802
6 ай бұрын
Anyone can be anybody in a mask?
@donrightgaming1455
6 ай бұрын
Choked in wwe tho
@MudhutStudiosOfficial
6 ай бұрын
@donrightgaming1455 Well when you have a blinding must under dark lighting, youoften don't do very good.
@AdamasutojrAJR
5 ай бұрын
@@donrightgaming1455 cause of the reasons mentioned in the video in case you haven't noticed
@OhSoNasty
5 ай бұрын
@@AdamasutojrAJR is dragistico a different person??
@celtic696 ай бұрын
Ring size also plays a part
@Experiencing_Joe_Rogan
6 ай бұрын
I was about to say wwe has a smaller ring right?
@bluemoon_lyrics
5 ай бұрын
@@Experiencing_Joe_RoganThe ropes are higher in WWE and they are also softer compared to those in Mexico where they are harder because They cover the steel with hard plastic and in WWE with cotton rope So it's harder to jump over them.
@realrockethub
5 ай бұрын
@@Experiencing_Joe_Roganbigger, not smaller.
@therainmakerinsider
5 ай бұрын
@@Experiencing_Joe_RoganWWE ring is the biggest. Besides Mistico sucks.
@Podgorski37
5 ай бұрын
@@julianbuchanan1879doesn't play too much difference
@Elcoyote_136 ай бұрын
he is back in mexico so i dont mind it he is a fucking beast over there
@OhSoNasty
5 ай бұрын
What's his name now it's changed right?
@CalderTF2
5 ай бұрын
@@OhSoNasty Pretty sure he is back to being mistico
@blatzspeed
5 ай бұрын
@@CalderTF2 I saw him live in Mexico city earlier this year. Fucking insane
@jasonours6957
5 ай бұрын
He’s also in impact occasionally
@thearthurmarston9897
5 ай бұрын
@@OhSoNastyhe is back to wrestling under the name of Mistico
@CalderTF25 ай бұрын
As someone who does have a replica mask I can confirm it is very hard to see out of.
@kingjaven13
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing 🙏🏾
@geebeepman
5 ай бұрын
especially in dim yellow lighting
@matthewwalker9205
5 ай бұрын
I still got my blue one from 2011 when i was a kid
@Eduardo-fg7nc
5 ай бұрын
I have a Ringworn and talk to a few mask makers, it's pretty much what you use for car windows so it's not bad unless it's bad lighting
@geebeepman
5 ай бұрын
@@Eduardo-fg7nc thought you typed you have ringworm 🤣
@professorbutter76865 ай бұрын
Whoever decided the lighting needed to change should be fired
@neotono5536
4 ай бұрын
Tney did the same with the Fiend which just made it extremely hard to see.
@Picmanreborn
4 ай бұрын
@@neotono5536and with Kane 😂
@NoxWyatt
3 ай бұрын
@@PicmanrebornFor Kane’s matches? No, that was dropped pretty early on and didn’t make it past 1998.
@I41535D
3 ай бұрын
Bruce Prichard or John A Or even worse Triple pencil me in every ppv matches so the fans can see the same work everytime
@TequilaToothpick
3 ай бұрын
@@NoxWyattSo they did do it for Kane as he said.
@pppmemes5 ай бұрын
They mishandled him so long that when they finally started trying to book him properly the damage was already done and it looked like his fault from the outside looking in
@JeffersonSteelflexx
4 ай бұрын
It was his fault. Dude botched his very first entrance lmaoo and refused to learn english, he did himself no favors
@dil09ful
4 ай бұрын
No it was his fault for not wanting to learn English and changing spots in a live match. WWE gave him many chances. He's to blame
@pppmemes
4 ай бұрын
@@dil09ful it was nowhere near his fault you don’t know the business so know your role
@dil09ful
4 ай бұрын
@@pppmemes actually it is his fault. Hell nakamura learned English. He decided to make his experience their difficult. Don't blame WWE for something the tried to help with and he rejected the them
@dil09ful
4 ай бұрын
@@pppmemes also ask many wrestlers about him they'll say the same thing so know your role
@JoeyD822886 ай бұрын
now we got dragon lee in WWE he is the guy to take over for Rey
@jackace209
6 ай бұрын
We need a match of pure Lucha... Like Dragon Lee vs Axiom in NXT...
@wolfhurricane897
6 ай бұрын
@@jackace209we had that on Smackdown in one episode after Santos injured Rey.
@jackace209
6 ай бұрын
@wolfhurricane897 We need more... Is what I meant...
@wolfhurricane897
6 ай бұрын
@@jackace209 good idea.
@1217rcc
6 ай бұрын
Yes, at least he can speak english and call a match.
@_MrMoney5 ай бұрын
There's also the fact that mexican ring ropes are usually thicker and easier for wrestlers to stand and jump from, even more around the corners.
@larryweatherspoon2531
26 күн бұрын
Yeah I looked closer to it and wwe is more of a rope and cmll has like a plastic jump rope look
@Abandoned978
22 күн бұрын
@@larryweatherspoon2531 thats part of it, but mexican rings in general just have their ropes set to be a lot tighter than wwe has theres. Most of lucha libre’s early was held in boxing rings where the ropes are super tight and the mat isnt as padded, so most of the style evolved to accomodate these high flying moves.
@larryweatherspoon2531
21 күн бұрын
@@Abandoned978 oh I never knew that
@FunnyJoshVideoz6 ай бұрын
The one that he tripped off the ropes was another wrestler playing as Sin Cara. Hunico
@patrickracer43
5 ай бұрын
And Hunico was versed in the WWE style
@FunnyJoshVideoz
5 ай бұрын
@@patrickracer43 still not the same Sin Cara this video was talking about.
@jacksonbassett1990
5 ай бұрын
@@FunnyJoshVideozwdym?
@jacksonbassett1990
5 ай бұрын
@@FunnyJoshVideozthe guy just saying hunico is familiar with the style and still botched, idk what ur reply to him was abt
@danielsmith5032
4 ай бұрын
@@jacksonbassett1990 I think he was trying to point out that this video shouldn't show a clip of Sin Cara botching if it wasn't actually Sin Cara. It's misleading
@brennanmason19736 ай бұрын
I liked Sin Cara Mistico just as much as Rey as a kid.
@diazen7927
5 ай бұрын
I remember I always picked him and Rey in W13. What a memories
@JustEpic_Yt
5 ай бұрын
Same
@kurvst8309
5 ай бұрын
Ngl I actually liked him more than Rey lol, probably because I grew up with him and not Rey but still no one like sin cara!!! Oh yeah deadass was my main in WWE 2K16 alongside stone cold and stardust lol. It must've really been a look thing and character thing for me lol
@brennanmason1973
5 ай бұрын
@@kurvst8309 I started watching in 2012 where Rey and Sin were a tag team.
@brennanmason1973
5 ай бұрын
@@kurvst8309 Its just the whole concept of Sin Cara is so cool.
@Devondavis-fm2dz6 ай бұрын
Maybe if they gave him a better mask maybe he wouldn't be botching I guess
@danted3408
6 ай бұрын
Maybe if he went out of the way to learn the English language hed be better off
@jemma2607
5 ай бұрын
@@danted3408Hunico knew the language and he still botched from time to time. The mask was definitely an issue...
@supergamingclips1
5 ай бұрын
@@jemma2607yeah you can definitely tell from the mask since both are 2 different people yet still botching
@EmperorPylades
5 ай бұрын
The mask was a problem, but Mistico made ZERO effort to prepare to work in WWE. He didn't train with a 20x20 ring to get his spacing and timing correct, didn't bother to learn English, and didn't do any training to learn to work on the left side (as opposed to working on the right as is normal in Mexico). And that's before we even get into the persistent rumours of his coke habit. WWE are far from blameless in the whole Sin Cara debacle, but he didn't hold up his end of the deal by any stretch.
@Rossoneri2
5 ай бұрын
Can't put all the blame on external factors, he also contributed to the problem
@Yourlocalnosehair6 ай бұрын
We need kalisto back
@greenrandall143
5 ай бұрын
I loved him! You know he still wrestles under a different name. “ Samurai del sol” he has done some stuff for impact but he has just been a jobber there. Idk if he is doing any work in Mexico but he probably is.
@dexos333333
5 ай бұрын
He does such good luchas... lucha things.
@SteelyDanzig
4 ай бұрын
Godamn..... whoo!
@thunderbeast21266 ай бұрын
I would love to see him wrestle Eddie. Now that would’ve been great
@ddcs0s
4 ай бұрын
I would have loved to see WWE use a smaller ring with lower turnbuckles and thicker ropes with is what most companies outside of the US do ... Like I don't know move all the bodybuilders and ex football players to Raw and let some guys work in Smackdown ring that would allow them to do what they do best
@TheBlackReaperKaneki5 ай бұрын
His finisher on the top rope was brilliant.
@chuckliquor36633 ай бұрын
Made that man wrestle blind, deaf, and mute.
@charliewood2.0235 ай бұрын
He was my fav wrestler growing up
@kurvst83095 ай бұрын
Imagine expecting someone that speaks another language, wrestles In another language, who also happens to be PRACTICALLY BLIND to put on a five star match lol. Kyng Mistico 🤘🏼
@thestrawberrypimpva
5 ай бұрын
Not saying he had too, but he could've at least tried, Rey Mysterio and Eddie Guerrero did and they became legendary
@kurvst8309
5 ай бұрын
@@thestrawberrypimpva Agreeable agreeable 🤘🏼
@breazy832
4 ай бұрын
wait wasn't this video about how he kept screwing up how was that 5 stars?
@budal15
4 ай бұрын
Rey and Eddie are both US born, English was native to them. Eddie hasn't wrestled in a mask and both were welcomed to cruiserweight division in WCW where they had years to learn US crowds. So in what way did they try that Mistico didn't? WWE completely gave up on him after what? 4-6 months?@@thestrawberrypimpva
@blindtherapper2470
4 ай бұрын
@@breazy832 he was talking about expectations
@bighomicide39295 ай бұрын
I saw him wrestle a few years ago at a new japan event, he had a great match to be fair .
@relentlesschaos74456 ай бұрын
Then there's Hunico who played him too
@Zman90425 ай бұрын
Don’t forget about ring size and make up. WWE rings are bigger than standard rings to stand out in bigger arenas and the ropes are actual ropes instead of cables which don’t allow for as much spring. That would throw anyone off their game. That’s like rearranging someone’s furniture and asking them to walk through their house blindfolded
@jorgel.quiroz8862
3 ай бұрын
I think everyone here bit more than they could chew. WWE giving Sin Cara a mask with shitty vision and Sin Cara not taking the time to master the different ring.
@milesboustead28266 ай бұрын
He's still amazing in Lucha tho
@PatLund5 ай бұрын
Also in mexico the wrestle backwards from the way they do it here in the states. So I'm sure adjusting to that would be difficult to.
@UltraVega924Ай бұрын
That twist and throw from the top rope went hard AF!
@Don_of_the_Dad4 ай бұрын
I honestly miss that guy in WWE We need more like him
@drillmessiah6558Ай бұрын
I still remember the adverts as a kid before he started lol
@DadTalksLive4 күн бұрын
Vince messed with him on purpose
@gabbidurhamАй бұрын
Even with the botches he was still one of my favorites as a kid. He was always so much fun to watch.
@ssjchixken51102 ай бұрын
Massive visible error aside, his mask is probably my favorite lucha mask tbh
@godofdreamzzz6 ай бұрын
That sucks. I feel like he could’ve been better
@The808OhanaАй бұрын
Who wouldve thought he would grow up to be Dominic Mysterio
@nathanielzoelleАй бұрын
He did still perform pretty well with the stipulations he had. I also liked seeing him do high flying moves and use his agility for amazing feets.
@belinda1082Ай бұрын
And because MISScito 😂😂😂😂
@meatballmusicman56875 ай бұрын
He has been and will always be my favorite wrestler.
@C-Thunder5 ай бұрын
For the ones who said language was an issue, look no further to Asuka, Kiri and Nakamura. All three of them had that huge language barrier and still succeeded. On the flip side, look at all the English/Spanish speaking wrestlers who wrestled in Japan and they didn't have much of an issue.
@alexiso-o204 ай бұрын
The cartoon scoby do made him look like a hero
@kianplayzgames58106 ай бұрын
I met him once
@chriscros13
5 ай бұрын
How was he
@kianplayzgames5810
5 ай бұрын
@@chriscros13 very kind. He said do you have any questions about my career and answered them truthfully
@chriscros13
5 ай бұрын
@@kianplayzgames5810 in English or Spanish lol
@kianplayzgames5810
5 ай бұрын
@@chriscros13 English lol
@chriscros13
5 ай бұрын
@@kianplayzgames5810 what year was this? lol I guess he finally learned
@Capn_FTBАй бұрын
I remember his debut. Goddamn I went crazy for this dude as a 10 year old. It was awesome seeing him jump into the ring like that and do crazy stuff I never seen before.
@SUNNY-wq2tt4 ай бұрын
I’m glad he went back to where he’s best at, cause this man had so much going against him when he was in WWE.
@WWE2KUNIVERSEELITEАй бұрын
They tried to make him the next Rey Mysterio and didn't let him do his own thing.
@nickweintraub18284 ай бұрын
We need Sin Cara back. While you’re at it…give him a mask that allows him to see.
@denniscastillo34105 ай бұрын
He probably couldn't see or get used to the ring.
@Hundo_Mo5 ай бұрын
I dont think him not speaking English caused him to fail jumping in the ring for his entrance 😂
@ayoitscris4 күн бұрын
His match with Rey Mysterio in 2015 was fuckin phenomenal
@michaelfedrick3946Ай бұрын
He was fire but I knew they weren't gonna let him shine
@howdoyoudobois7764Ай бұрын
They set bro up for failure
@sandipansaha1296Ай бұрын
The Kalisto-Sincara era
@KANOAH.Official5 ай бұрын
Lol I remember those dumbass lights 😂😂
@vj72484 ай бұрын
The Sin Cara Mask was a special grade cursed object
@marskingdoms4 ай бұрын
He was my favourite back then
@zionziggy14 ай бұрын
Was such a beast in Mexico. Defo underrated and under appreciated in WWE. Not many knew what he could really do 🔥
@joshx0226 ай бұрын
Great in mexico, man. Here, he embarrassed himself tremendously. Between botches, unwillingness to learn English, trying to call a match off for a finger... he didnt have the passion to transition. Was glad to see him go. He was a piss break for the arena according to his matches i caught in house.
@PrinceJuvy4 ай бұрын
Wow it all makes sense now.
@THECAR995 ай бұрын
He really had the holes like spiderman mask. I didn't understand how he saw through it and still been amazing
@stely_officialАй бұрын
I will happily admit, 7 year old me was a massive Sin Cara nerd
@AFF-SUBHADEEP4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much dhruv sir 💗🙏
@stephenphillips62454 ай бұрын
Ropes in WWE...have little to no spring.
@shangojackson602 ай бұрын
Another reason was the role tension in mexican rings is much different
@nasescobar66013 ай бұрын
the last one 😂😂
@WhoCaresAnymoreTho2 ай бұрын
Can he see fru tht mask😂😂
@Goldenleyend5 ай бұрын
100% the mask
@tylerwright50054 ай бұрын
He had so much potential
@armaanmodi5 ай бұрын
these are some good points
@noahice6521Ай бұрын
he was always my favorite wrestler growing up even if he was constantly making bloopers
@creeper44814 ай бұрын
Man, I missed his run as Rey Mysterio’s Tag Team Partner in 2012
@KingMike-un5vz2 ай бұрын
I missed him
@vinverducci31465 ай бұрын
Sin Cara is in my top 10 favorite wwe superstars
@wrecker10484 ай бұрын
Sin Cara may not speak English, but John Cena speaks Masked Luchadore. Learned that from Scooby-Doo.
@SirSX34 ай бұрын
Mistico is an incredible wrestler, I saw him on AEW and was completely blown away
@todddtyty9162Ай бұрын
This character has been played by multiple guys. 😂
@prowrestlingadda4 ай бұрын
Now he is wrestling in AEW representing CMLL doing pretty good... Also if I am not wrong when he was in wwe a lot of time there was someone else wrestling in the mask instead of him...
@shishioh2 ай бұрын
he was a bit heavier too
@JamesHittleАй бұрын
I still loved sin cara even with the mistakes
@canontheory5 ай бұрын
Cause he couldn’t see out of the mask, he might as well have been wrestling blindfolded lol
@Hydro_9293Ай бұрын
Keep in mind this is only the 1st Sin Cara not the 2nd sin Cara
@thedeserts5 ай бұрын
props to sin cara then because good lord
@Felipe-yg5fe5 ай бұрын
This guy is Legend in Mexico ❤
@setyanto274 ай бұрын
From the looks of it, I don't think language barrier is the reason
@DeathRex884 ай бұрын
They also mostly use cables in Lucha for the extra spring for the moves, WWE uses old school rope. It doesnt have as much spring and is a hard adjustment. Its a big reason why a lot of talent have had trouble with the style.
@8BitBruche5 ай бұрын
After seeing Mistico wrwstle and being amazed with his work, I was shocked when I found out he was the original Sin Cara. It all makes sense now. Leave it to WWE to screw up someone with that kind of talent.
@UncleTristy884 ай бұрын
Sin-Botcha
@d.anthony4363Ай бұрын
Because they didn't even bother to put him in the Performance Center and NXT first
@VPP064 ай бұрын
Sin Talent.
@Sorrus-B4lyfe24 күн бұрын
= He couldn’t see.
@theoutsiderjess48695 ай бұрын
I feel bad for sin cara because you can tell he was talented however he had way too much issues
@treykoyawena44435 ай бұрын
The old mask of sincara was used later in wwe
@XxJERICHOHOLICxX134 ай бұрын
One big reason he botched a lot that you would probably only know if you've ever trained to be a wrestler is that all wrestlers in America work "right", meaning if they give you a suplex, they're lifting you on the right side, they're clotheslining you with your right arm, they're superkicking with their right leg. There are exceptions to this, but generally speaking, this is how it goes. In Mexico, they work "left". Same deal as America and most of the rest of the world, just flipped to the other side. It's like how in Tekken, players are less effective on the right side of the screen because they have to do all of their normal moves backwards.
@truephoenix005 ай бұрын
Pressure might be a thing
@Tribleman247Ай бұрын
Just gunna say, its specifcly the first Sincara that was the problem
@wst96594 ай бұрын
Bring him back
@jameslahey20055 ай бұрын
Sounds like excuses to me
@Struzzzmann5 ай бұрын
The mainstream potential this poor man had😢
@lashawncraig95604 ай бұрын
Sin cara vs rey mysterio was elite
@AWF10005 ай бұрын
I remember wwe hyped his wwe debut like crazy
@UceyJuicy2205 ай бұрын
He needs to come back and teach Santos a lesson but can we please give him a mask he's able to see in
@Picmanreborn4 ай бұрын
Bro ain't think to ask for a different mask? 💀
@jonathanlinn22315 ай бұрын
He has good filing skills
@timewarpeatscrayons5 ай бұрын
I used to have one like since caras, i can confirm that it used to be almost impossible to see. You can barely even see out of the corners of the eyes
@TheRealSlimCraigy5 ай бұрын
There's also the fundamental difference between luchador style, which is often led by the right hand, compared to western style wrestling is led by the left hand. If you're expecting your opponent to be on your right, but he's on your left, you'll often miss your spot.
@scottypittman15 ай бұрын
I was so fascinated by Sin Cara. I remember seeing the vignettes as they aired and just being so hyped for this guy. I still loved his in ring work, but it sucks that a combination of circumstances hindered his time in the WWE. I hope that he finds much success wherever he ended up at.
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This guy is amazing. I seen clips of him in Mexico and bro is like somebody else.
@dionroberts2802
6 ай бұрын
Anyone can be anybody in a mask?
@donrightgaming1455
6 ай бұрын
Choked in wwe tho
@MudhutStudiosOfficial
6 ай бұрын
@donrightgaming1455 Well when you have a blinding must under dark lighting, youoften don't do very good.
@AdamasutojrAJR
5 ай бұрын
@@donrightgaming1455 cause of the reasons mentioned in the video in case you haven't noticed
@OhSoNasty
5 ай бұрын
@@AdamasutojrAJR is dragistico a different person??
Ring size also plays a part
@Experiencing_Joe_Rogan
6 ай бұрын
I was about to say wwe has a smaller ring right?
@bluemoon_lyrics
5 ай бұрын
@@Experiencing_Joe_RoganThe ropes are higher in WWE and they are also softer compared to those in Mexico where they are harder because They cover the steel with hard plastic and in WWE with cotton rope So it's harder to jump over them.
@realrockethub
5 ай бұрын
@@Experiencing_Joe_Roganbigger, not smaller.
@therainmakerinsider
5 ай бұрын
@@Experiencing_Joe_RoganWWE ring is the biggest. Besides Mistico sucks.
@Podgorski37
5 ай бұрын
@@julianbuchanan1879doesn't play too much difference
he is back in mexico so i dont mind it he is a fucking beast over there
@OhSoNasty
5 ай бұрын
What's his name now it's changed right?
@CalderTF2
5 ай бұрын
@@OhSoNasty Pretty sure he is back to being mistico
@blatzspeed
5 ай бұрын
@@CalderTF2 I saw him live in Mexico city earlier this year. Fucking insane
@jasonours6957
5 ай бұрын
He’s also in impact occasionally
@thearthurmarston9897
5 ай бұрын
@@OhSoNastyhe is back to wrestling under the name of Mistico
As someone who does have a replica mask I can confirm it is very hard to see out of.
@kingjaven13
5 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing 🙏🏾
@geebeepman
5 ай бұрын
especially in dim yellow lighting
@matthewwalker9205
5 ай бұрын
I still got my blue one from 2011 when i was a kid
@Eduardo-fg7nc
5 ай бұрын
I have a Ringworn and talk to a few mask makers, it's pretty much what you use for car windows so it's not bad unless it's bad lighting
@geebeepman
5 ай бұрын
@@Eduardo-fg7nc thought you typed you have ringworm 🤣
Whoever decided the lighting needed to change should be fired
@neotono5536
4 ай бұрын
Tney did the same with the Fiend which just made it extremely hard to see.
@Picmanreborn
4 ай бұрын
@@neotono5536and with Kane 😂
@NoxWyatt
3 ай бұрын
@@PicmanrebornFor Kane’s matches? No, that was dropped pretty early on and didn’t make it past 1998.
@I41535D
3 ай бұрын
Bruce Prichard or John A Or even worse Triple pencil me in every ppv matches so the fans can see the same work everytime
@TequilaToothpick
3 ай бұрын
@@NoxWyattSo they did do it for Kane as he said.
They mishandled him so long that when they finally started trying to book him properly the damage was already done and it looked like his fault from the outside looking in
@JeffersonSteelflexx
4 ай бұрын
It was his fault. Dude botched his very first entrance lmaoo and refused to learn english, he did himself no favors
@dil09ful
4 ай бұрын
No it was his fault for not wanting to learn English and changing spots in a live match. WWE gave him many chances. He's to blame
@pppmemes
4 ай бұрын
@@dil09ful it was nowhere near his fault you don’t know the business so know your role
@dil09ful
4 ай бұрын
@@pppmemes actually it is his fault. Hell nakamura learned English. He decided to make his experience their difficult. Don't blame WWE for something the tried to help with and he rejected the them
@dil09ful
4 ай бұрын
@@pppmemes also ask many wrestlers about him they'll say the same thing so know your role
now we got dragon lee in WWE he is the guy to take over for Rey
@jackace209
6 ай бұрын
We need a match of pure Lucha... Like Dragon Lee vs Axiom in NXT...
@wolfhurricane897
6 ай бұрын
@@jackace209we had that on Smackdown in one episode after Santos injured Rey.
@jackace209
6 ай бұрын
@wolfhurricane897 We need more... Is what I meant...
@wolfhurricane897
6 ай бұрын
@@jackace209 good idea.
@1217rcc
6 ай бұрын
Yes, at least he can speak english and call a match.
There's also the fact that mexican ring ropes are usually thicker and easier for wrestlers to stand and jump from, even more around the corners.
@larryweatherspoon2531
26 күн бұрын
Yeah I looked closer to it and wwe is more of a rope and cmll has like a plastic jump rope look
@Abandoned978
22 күн бұрын
@@larryweatherspoon2531 thats part of it, but mexican rings in general just have their ropes set to be a lot tighter than wwe has theres. Most of lucha libre’s early was held in boxing rings where the ropes are super tight and the mat isnt as padded, so most of the style evolved to accomodate these high flying moves.
@larryweatherspoon2531
21 күн бұрын
@@Abandoned978 oh I never knew that
The one that he tripped off the ropes was another wrestler playing as Sin Cara. Hunico
@patrickracer43
5 ай бұрын
And Hunico was versed in the WWE style
@FunnyJoshVideoz
5 ай бұрын
@@patrickracer43 still not the same Sin Cara this video was talking about.
@jacksonbassett1990
5 ай бұрын
@@FunnyJoshVideozwdym?
@jacksonbassett1990
5 ай бұрын
@@FunnyJoshVideozthe guy just saying hunico is familiar with the style and still botched, idk what ur reply to him was abt
@danielsmith5032
4 ай бұрын
@@jacksonbassett1990 I think he was trying to point out that this video shouldn't show a clip of Sin Cara botching if it wasn't actually Sin Cara. It's misleading
I liked Sin Cara Mistico just as much as Rey as a kid.
@diazen7927
5 ай бұрын
I remember I always picked him and Rey in W13. What a memories
@JustEpic_Yt
5 ай бұрын
Same
@kurvst8309
5 ай бұрын
Ngl I actually liked him more than Rey lol, probably because I grew up with him and not Rey but still no one like sin cara!!! Oh yeah deadass was my main in WWE 2K16 alongside stone cold and stardust lol. It must've really been a look thing and character thing for me lol
@brennanmason1973
5 ай бұрын
@@kurvst8309 I started watching in 2012 where Rey and Sin were a tag team.
@brennanmason1973
5 ай бұрын
@@kurvst8309 Its just the whole concept of Sin Cara is so cool.
Maybe if they gave him a better mask maybe he wouldn't be botching I guess
@danted3408
6 ай бұрын
Maybe if he went out of the way to learn the English language hed be better off
@jemma2607
5 ай бұрын
@@danted3408Hunico knew the language and he still botched from time to time. The mask was definitely an issue...
@supergamingclips1
5 ай бұрын
@@jemma2607yeah you can definitely tell from the mask since both are 2 different people yet still botching
@EmperorPylades
5 ай бұрын
The mask was a problem, but Mistico made ZERO effort to prepare to work in WWE. He didn't train with a 20x20 ring to get his spacing and timing correct, didn't bother to learn English, and didn't do any training to learn to work on the left side (as opposed to working on the right as is normal in Mexico). And that's before we even get into the persistent rumours of his coke habit. WWE are far from blameless in the whole Sin Cara debacle, but he didn't hold up his end of the deal by any stretch.
@Rossoneri2
5 ай бұрын
Can't put all the blame on external factors, he also contributed to the problem
We need kalisto back
@greenrandall143
5 ай бұрын
I loved him! You know he still wrestles under a different name. “ Samurai del sol” he has done some stuff for impact but he has just been a jobber there. Idk if he is doing any work in Mexico but he probably is.
@dexos333333
5 ай бұрын
He does such good luchas... lucha things.
@SteelyDanzig
4 ай бұрын
Godamn..... whoo!
I would love to see him wrestle Eddie. Now that would’ve been great
@ddcs0s
4 ай бұрын
I would have loved to see WWE use a smaller ring with lower turnbuckles and thicker ropes with is what most companies outside of the US do ... Like I don't know move all the bodybuilders and ex football players to Raw and let some guys work in Smackdown ring that would allow them to do what they do best
His finisher on the top rope was brilliant.
Made that man wrestle blind, deaf, and mute.
He was my fav wrestler growing up
Imagine expecting someone that speaks another language, wrestles In another language, who also happens to be PRACTICALLY BLIND to put on a five star match lol. Kyng Mistico 🤘🏼
@thestrawberrypimpva
5 ай бұрын
Not saying he had too, but he could've at least tried, Rey Mysterio and Eddie Guerrero did and they became legendary
@kurvst8309
5 ай бұрын
@@thestrawberrypimpva Agreeable agreeable 🤘🏼
@breazy832
4 ай бұрын
wait wasn't this video about how he kept screwing up how was that 5 stars?
@budal15
4 ай бұрын
Rey and Eddie are both US born, English was native to them. Eddie hasn't wrestled in a mask and both were welcomed to cruiserweight division in WCW where they had years to learn US crowds. So in what way did they try that Mistico didn't? WWE completely gave up on him after what? 4-6 months?@@thestrawberrypimpva
@blindtherapper2470
4 ай бұрын
@@breazy832 he was talking about expectations
I saw him wrestle a few years ago at a new japan event, he had a great match to be fair .
Then there's Hunico who played him too
Don’t forget about ring size and make up. WWE rings are bigger than standard rings to stand out in bigger arenas and the ropes are actual ropes instead of cables which don’t allow for as much spring. That would throw anyone off their game. That’s like rearranging someone’s furniture and asking them to walk through their house blindfolded
@jorgel.quiroz8862
3 ай бұрын
I think everyone here bit more than they could chew. WWE giving Sin Cara a mask with shitty vision and Sin Cara not taking the time to master the different ring.
He's still amazing in Lucha tho
Also in mexico the wrestle backwards from the way they do it here in the states. So I'm sure adjusting to that would be difficult to.
That twist and throw from the top rope went hard AF!
I honestly miss that guy in WWE We need more like him
I still remember the adverts as a kid before he started lol
Vince messed with him on purpose
Even with the botches he was still one of my favorites as a kid. He was always so much fun to watch.
Massive visible error aside, his mask is probably my favorite lucha mask tbh
That sucks. I feel like he could’ve been better
Who wouldve thought he would grow up to be Dominic Mysterio
He did still perform pretty well with the stipulations he had. I also liked seeing him do high flying moves and use his agility for amazing feets.
And because MISScito 😂😂😂😂
He has been and will always be my favorite wrestler.
For the ones who said language was an issue, look no further to Asuka, Kiri and Nakamura. All three of them had that huge language barrier and still succeeded. On the flip side, look at all the English/Spanish speaking wrestlers who wrestled in Japan and they didn't have much of an issue.
The cartoon scoby do made him look like a hero
I met him once
@chriscros13
5 ай бұрын
How was he
@kianplayzgames5810
5 ай бұрын
@@chriscros13 very kind. He said do you have any questions about my career and answered them truthfully
@chriscros13
5 ай бұрын
@@kianplayzgames5810 in English or Spanish lol
@kianplayzgames5810
5 ай бұрын
@@chriscros13 English lol
@chriscros13
5 ай бұрын
@@kianplayzgames5810 what year was this? lol I guess he finally learned
I remember his debut. Goddamn I went crazy for this dude as a 10 year old. It was awesome seeing him jump into the ring like that and do crazy stuff I never seen before.
I’m glad he went back to where he’s best at, cause this man had so much going against him when he was in WWE.
They tried to make him the next Rey Mysterio and didn't let him do his own thing.
We need Sin Cara back. While you’re at it…give him a mask that allows him to see.
He probably couldn't see or get used to the ring.
I dont think him not speaking English caused him to fail jumping in the ring for his entrance 😂
His match with Rey Mysterio in 2015 was fuckin phenomenal
He was fire but I knew they weren't gonna let him shine
They set bro up for failure
The Kalisto-Sincara era
Lol I remember those dumbass lights 😂😂
The Sin Cara Mask was a special grade cursed object
He was my favourite back then
Was such a beast in Mexico. Defo underrated and under appreciated in WWE. Not many knew what he could really do 🔥
Great in mexico, man. Here, he embarrassed himself tremendously. Between botches, unwillingness to learn English, trying to call a match off for a finger... he didnt have the passion to transition. Was glad to see him go. He was a piss break for the arena according to his matches i caught in house.
Wow it all makes sense now.
He really had the holes like spiderman mask. I didn't understand how he saw through it and still been amazing
I will happily admit, 7 year old me was a massive Sin Cara nerd
Thank you so much dhruv sir 💗🙏
Ropes in WWE...have little to no spring.
Another reason was the role tension in mexican rings is much different
the last one 😂😂
Can he see fru tht mask😂😂
100% the mask
He had so much potential
these are some good points
he was always my favorite wrestler growing up even if he was constantly making bloopers
Man, I missed his run as Rey Mysterio’s Tag Team Partner in 2012
I missed him
Sin Cara is in my top 10 favorite wwe superstars
Sin Cara may not speak English, but John Cena speaks Masked Luchadore. Learned that from Scooby-Doo.
Mistico is an incredible wrestler, I saw him on AEW and was completely blown away
This character has been played by multiple guys. 😂
Now he is wrestling in AEW representing CMLL doing pretty good... Also if I am not wrong when he was in wwe a lot of time there was someone else wrestling in the mask instead of him...
he was a bit heavier too
I still loved sin cara even with the mistakes
Cause he couldn’t see out of the mask, he might as well have been wrestling blindfolded lol
Keep in mind this is only the 1st Sin Cara not the 2nd sin Cara
props to sin cara then because good lord
This guy is Legend in Mexico ❤
From the looks of it, I don't think language barrier is the reason
They also mostly use cables in Lucha for the extra spring for the moves, WWE uses old school rope. It doesnt have as much spring and is a hard adjustment. Its a big reason why a lot of talent have had trouble with the style.
After seeing Mistico wrwstle and being amazed with his work, I was shocked when I found out he was the original Sin Cara. It all makes sense now. Leave it to WWE to screw up someone with that kind of talent.
Sin-Botcha
Because they didn't even bother to put him in the Performance Center and NXT first
Sin Talent.
= He couldn’t see.
I feel bad for sin cara because you can tell he was talented however he had way too much issues
The old mask of sincara was used later in wwe
One big reason he botched a lot that you would probably only know if you've ever trained to be a wrestler is that all wrestlers in America work "right", meaning if they give you a suplex, they're lifting you on the right side, they're clotheslining you with your right arm, they're superkicking with their right leg. There are exceptions to this, but generally speaking, this is how it goes. In Mexico, they work "left". Same deal as America and most of the rest of the world, just flipped to the other side. It's like how in Tekken, players are less effective on the right side of the screen because they have to do all of their normal moves backwards.
Pressure might be a thing
Just gunna say, its specifcly the first Sincara that was the problem
Bring him back
Sounds like excuses to me
The mainstream potential this poor man had😢
Sin cara vs rey mysterio was elite
I remember wwe hyped his wwe debut like crazy
He needs to come back and teach Santos a lesson but can we please give him a mask he's able to see in
Bro ain't think to ask for a different mask? 💀
He has good filing skills
I used to have one like since caras, i can confirm that it used to be almost impossible to see. You can barely even see out of the corners of the eyes
There's also the fundamental difference between luchador style, which is often led by the right hand, compared to western style wrestling is led by the left hand. If you're expecting your opponent to be on your right, but he's on your left, you'll often miss your spot.
I was so fascinated by Sin Cara. I remember seeing the vignettes as they aired and just being so hyped for this guy. I still loved his in ring work, but it sucks that a combination of circumstances hindered his time in the WWE. I hope that he finds much success wherever he ended up at.
After seeing this i kinda feel bad for him