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I'm listening to this on christmas day 2023. Let me tell you, I've just been through something that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I thought thst I knew his background. But baby! Lets do our research, and take it to the Lord in prayer

He knew exactly who Shaunie was when he saw her.

Speaking of the "come up" man or woman, there are also "come up" friends. Some people will pursue a friendship with someone who has something going for them just so they can ride their coat tails and reap benefits from the fake friendship.

Prenups don’t protect your heart but just your possessions.

Honestly I can appreciate this podcast to help women to not fall into these pitfalls. However, black women are drawn to Pastors and all of the signs can be there and we will still take a chance. I’ve been Saved most of my life and I’ve never been blinded by the Man of God. You’ve got to know the man. I have been married 1 time 20 years ago to my son’s father. I am not a serial type marrying person…some women and men are. A red flag for me would be a man married 2 times and more. No way I’m marrying that man, especially a young man. My ex husband is 45 and working on his 4th wife…….he is a narcissist and abusive. He never physically abused me when we were married at 20, but he was a mess!! Also he divorced me 4 years later cause even though I had no intentions of going back I didn’t file, he filed when he had met the soon to be 2nd wife at the time. Black women gotta learn to be ok with being Single until a man worthy comes along. Great podcast ❤❤❤

Some women can't be alone. I get that life can be lonely without a significant other, but I'd rather be alone than to have added stress from a so-called partner. Don't let the title "pastor" fool you; a man is a man. Many woman put aside "red flags." Marriage is overrated!

@mvmochannel

Жыл бұрын

I don't think marriage is over-rated being alone is. If we make wise choices we will enjoy the fruit of a healthy, loving, supportive relationship- just as God intended it. But when we make bad choices and still haven't taken accountability for our part and are still in victim mode, we start to believe relationships & marriage are over-rated.

When I was 39 I was seriously dating a guy and I wanted to be married before 40 soooo badly I kept explaining away the red flags , finally my sister got worried and contacted the guys ex . So me and the ex talked . Needless to say I ended the relationship not long after. Very enlightening convo,, I really dogged a catastrophic situation… 😅 he woulda made my life miserable. MVoV speaking facts !!

Why is her Mother really not participating in the nuptial process! The look on his face, when she said she going to spend some time with Dear! That is a major red flag 🚩, when Mama don’t come to your wedding 💒.

Keion has all the traits of a narcissist. He seeks supply, love bombs, uses the person for opportunities and a come up and once the supply is exhausted and used up he's on to the next.

Shaunie! U should never ask a man to marry you! This is a weak move Sis! Just by listening to him in this video, I already know where this relationship will be.

Shaunie is not the nicest person. Perhaps she has met her match. Never know

The Fact That He Was A Pastor, And, Pursued Her While He Was Married, Was A Big Red Flag And, A Big NO, NO!

This is why I don’t feel ashamed or badly about being unmarried at almost 30. Is much rather be single than claim a husband like this. So many women pity unmarried women. I pity women who are married to no-good-good-for-nothing husbands who embarrass them constantly. I very much so desire to be married one day but only to a man who is solid, honest, loves the Lord, and has FRUIT.

She couldn’t forgive Shaq yet look who she falls for.

"WHAT IS DONE IN THE DARK, WILL USUALLY COME OUT IN THE LIGHT."

Dating is so scary now. My hubby has been deceased for 6yrs. We were married for 24yrs, he passed due to cancer,I think I’m just going to wing it and just go on dates. Nothing serious. SMH

Lots of women miss red flags and pay later in the relationship. Desperation will ALWAYS have you settle. Ladies love yourself, date yourself, be happy with self when no one is in your presence, etc

OMG!!! This is soooo good & very much needed. LADIES, when you work hard and GENUINELY like & love yourself, tangibles will NOT impress you! You will also SET boundaries, ENFORCE them, & REFUSE to let your guard down. Singleness is a GIFT! If the man doesn't ADD (morally) to your peace, love, happiness, and stability; love yourself enough to DISMISS him, IMMEDIATELY ‼️ ...& without explanation. You owe him NOTHING! You can live a FULL & SUCCESSFUL life WITHOUT the presence of a man! If it's hard for you to see that as true, you have a lot of soul-searching and growing up to do! It's IMPOSSIBLE for you to love someone more than you love yourself ‼️ 🧡🤗😘🤗🧡

@annajoie700

Жыл бұрын

So excellently expressed!! 👏🏼👏🏼

This is absolutely a learning experience. Thank you! Been divorced 9 years and I was wife No.5, and the same pattern I learned every marriage, so Thank You for this.

Desperate women can be poor and rich

Absolutely 💯 correct!!!! My grandmother said you can't change a man. He has to change for himself. Your on point Sis!!!!

I had to accept his patterns honestly after he divorced me. And still healing. I was #2 but many before me and several after. His fruits were so rotten and I thought washing them with vinegar would make them palatable. 🙏🏼

If you look at Star Jones who knew hee ex husband was gay and married her anyway. A lot of downlow men will marry women that have a lot more then they do.

Shaunie saw the Red flags but wanted to be marry so so bad! I pray and hope that this marriage work! 🙏🙏

My x bf is a pastor & narcissist that divorced his wife of 14 years. I got with him not knowing anything about his mental health. He cheated on me last November and I broke up with him for the final time then.. I warned the girl he cheated on me with that he was a narcissist and that everything is x wife claimed of him was true. Him and her (the girl he cheated on me with) just got married a few days ago. ! Since then he has lost his job at the church , he is in a lawsuit with the Assemblies of God and lost almost everything yet he still got married 😅

@ZeeTheGreat333

Жыл бұрын

Well he had to have an anchor to hold him up at least until he can find another church to scam. Sorry you went through that but at least you didn’t marry him 💗

@martychambers8927

Жыл бұрын

I hope he changed

@enochrry6024

Жыл бұрын

When you posted you broke up with him for the last time then,what did you breakup with him for the 1st or 2nd time for before the last?..I know exactly about personality disorders,and many times Co-dependents are drawn to toxic relationships.

Kion and the first wife, an older woman, were only together for six months on the west coast. Kion returned home and his father gave him a church and Kion was the pastor there for two years. Kion returned to the west coast and sometime later divorced his first wife, then he married the second wife.

This 3rd marriage isnt the thing I'm surprised she not seeing about him. I listened to his preaching and he is not bad until it becomes obvious he is arrogant and a tad bit zesty.

@charchar7897

Жыл бұрын

THis is her 3rd marriage as well so....

This is my second time listening to this episode; I was only 25-fresh out of college with a 6 month old, he had been married twice! I ignored the red flags because his sister “evilene” worked with my mom & family went to my home church, I thought I knew them! I’d been at the church since I was 2-his family came when I was 13! He was 6 years older, divorced twice, I thought oh well shix happens right? No-we stayed married 25 years until he CALLED me & ended the marriage over the phone! Wow, what a devastating blow, but now everything makes since! It was never gunna work-he has a problem! All I can say is wow wow wow! Married 1994-2019 (25 years) it a while, but I understood during the call he stated “you haven’t done anything wrong I just don’t want to be married anymore” Now @ 58 years old I’m fighting him for my court ordered TX alimony! It’s been 2 years,he’s still mad-he never had to give up cash! I’m sweet & loving, but I’ll be damn if I take my foot off the gas! My attorney says in TX they will lock you up if you defy a court ordered decree! Boo hoo,to jail he must go! Thanks for listening, I’m not a kid anymore❤

@Widenalage

Жыл бұрын

I hope for you the best

@cmathis2022

Жыл бұрын

Wow, that was a very informative podcast...& I feel that A WORD to the WISE is SUFFICIENT! Ladies - play @your own risk...don't be anyone's fool.

I've visited his church a few times... from when he was in a high school auditorium to the mega church he's at now. Everything you've said is spot on! He preaches a very relatable Word that reaches the young and old. He has done MUCH more than what you touched on. Shaunie better watch out.

@stephaniedennis1131

Жыл бұрын

I really was surprised on this topic, and will definitely watch for the next that come into my life.👍

As a single 27 year old woman, I appreciate the wisdom and information that you shared. Thank you.

@mvmochannel

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

This conversation was so needed and I wish I had this several years ago. I’m guilty on both sides. I thought I’d be the one to change a person. And I’ve also been the one to divorce two husbands because I felt unfulfilled. Wow…. I’ve been single for several years and I am going to stay right in this place until the healing is complete and to ensure I don’t miss the lesson I’m supposed to learn to be able to move forward properly in a relationship.

This is very good. RC Blake's Jr. Says never ignore a man's energy, patterns and history regarding how he managed his past relationships.

You spoke the truth. I love the examples you shared. I am so glad I'm not a person who feels the need to have a man in my life to feel good about me. On point and one accord! God bless you!

I knew this is not going to work at all. My ex husband got into being a minster. We started going to church together. After I got pregnant after 12 years, he changed for the horrible! Theses men in the church are the worst. When I heard that guy talk to Ms. O’Neal . All he used was God , God , God. They know how to con you with the Bible. Women just know this man is special. No, No , no he is not!!! He will lie, cheat and hurt her! 35 yrs. In I had to divorce this so called minister. She will too! Girl you have got the story so right!!!❤

When God is Working let Go and Let God. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

Prenuptials don’t protect the heart ❤powerful

I totally agree with you. I've noticed too that a lot of successful women entertainers make their "come up" ex husbands their managers, for example Mary J Blige, Wendy Williams, Janet Jackson, Jill Scott, and others. That's another layer of problems.

I cringed a little when he said..” she kept asking me when are you gonna ask me to marry you”.....she looked uncomfortable at him...he should’ve kept that quiet.

Lets pray for them, may God be with them in their marriage.

Hope and pray they will have a successful happy marriage. May God bless their marriage.

Madam, You're a thousand percent right. As you said: "the man will change you before he changes himself. " Some of us are in denial even though the man is showing us his true color. At times we try to to maintain a social status because we don't want to be laughed at or even afraid of being single. We also know the stigma associated with being a black single mother. There other factors that contribute to staying in those types of situations. It may be religious or financial or cultural ti name a few. How many of us still don't talk about those relationships till the other one or partner dies or asks for a divorce. By that time it may be too late to recover. If a woman isn't naturally strong and or doesn't have a good support system in a case like that i it may be difficult to handle. By chance or by accident I got your video on my feed. It's truly gratifying and inspiring. You did deliver. Never too late to learn. Thanks again for the schooling.

He certainly has a type in the physical aspect. Maybe, because he was raised by a single woman, he understands the strength & essence of a woman, and if the women are willing to help him, then so be it. I pray that the 3rd time is the charm, as this is the 3rd marriage for the both of them. Shaunie may not be able to change Keion, but God can. I pray for nothing but grace, favor and blessings on their marriage, family, ministry, etc. I pray that Shaunie is a true help mate to Ķeion & that they level up and come up together as they should!!

3rd ex wife here. There's 5 of us. You are soooo correct PATTERNS.

@mvmochannel

Жыл бұрын

Wow, 5!!

Omg....the anology with the friut and works was so eye opening for me!

What a lot of people don't understand about Shsq is he won't allow anyone to harm her. Now he can't protect her heart but her pockets yeah he won't get any money but he will live well

The first glance at Keion is no secret.

Keion is an opportunist

I learned from my dating history to be more cautious of guys who make you believe you are the star of their show, then once you're the so called main character, you catch flack, you find out more about him & his pattern of dysfunction, you see things differently, when at this time you are in so deep , you have invested your money, time, your body, you give freely without regret because you think he's just like you, instantly all the stuff hits the fan. Now you feel played because you didn't vet the individual. Be safe, be aware, some guys are like the City Girls, just looking for a come up.

Narcissist are always charming and loving and just wonderful this is the grooming stage. Shaunie seems gullible . Why would she ask him when he gonna ask her to marry her? I've been through this very same stuff and I know I can be vulnerable

Your commentary is so on point!! I even shared this video with a friend. The key point I took from all of this is the concept of paying attention to a man's patterns in his dating life!! This has only confirmed what my spirit already knows. Thank you....

Wow... I didn't know this is his 3rd marriage. At some point you've got to look at the common denominator.

@msohh4210

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s her 3rd as well

The streets say keion is one of the gworls 🏳️‍🌈. All this just tracks ....

I pray they do well together

🤔I wonder why she was in such a hurry to be with this man…she didn’t even know him well enough for the “yearning”. I made the same mistake “marrying a man without understanding his true character”. Thank you for the video…Lesson learned 😎

This is what happens when you don’t really take time to heal from past trauma. I’ve never seen genuine love come forth from him with her. What flows from the heart goes to the heart. When people genuinely love each other…everyone can feel it. I have felt like Shauni knows he’s a good guy. I believe she feel that she can help heal his heart. And don’t get me wrong. I do believe that God can use people to help heal the heart ♥️. But both parties have to be rooted and grounded in Love…And God is Love…So they have to be rooted and grounded in God. I pray that somehow they make it instead of endure more trauma and to change the trajectory of their bloodline. I pray they grow together in grace. And they grow together in God. I wish they had taken more time to BECOME before going to the public and making money deals off their marriage. It makes it seem more like a business deal. Ijs

I was always noticing the joy, smiles, but at the same time I felt Shaunie liked Keion more. She really loves him but after listening to this podcast, you are about right. It won't be long. Shame on Shaunie, was she that slow not to hire a PI😢😢😢

His face is a red flag he looks manipulative even sneaky is written all over his face and he sounds controlling.

@kcz81582

Жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing!

Shaunie was giving desperate and he took the bait.

So he likes to be married. Why is that a problem? If it's not right why stay. That's man or woman. This is messy. What I picked up from watching Shaunie over the years is that she cannot be used nor controlled and I'm sure she had a lock down prenup.

Thank you for this wisdom. I fell for this with my 1st husband I learn the hard way. I’m enjoying my single life and taking my time when it come to relationship.

You are so on point. We as women settle too much. There is nothing wrong with being by your self. And loving your self. Then moving on to find that special man. But again not rushing into anything.

This reminds me of Stevie J and Faith Evans. They are divorced, and she has to now pay him $30K per month. Scary.

Nothing but the truth was spoken in this message. I saved this to remind myself.

Thank you for using this relationship as an example of how we ignore the patterns in our relationships. Yes his works and his fruits are two different things. I appreciated this today and your so easy to listen to. Well spoken, thank you!!!!!!!! PATTERNS

All I can say is WoW! I have been married for 22 years and I am So Grateful for a wonderful husband and partner. I can remember talking with a friend who is now divorced and it appears that he got with her to get 1/2 of her retirement. And he did. Left and asked for a divorce days after the state requirement to collect 1/2 of the person’s retirement. I asked her if she saw any signs prior to and during the marriage. She said “yes” but I chose to ignore them 😢. It is So heart breaking.

@bellableu4023

Жыл бұрын

Congratulations on 22 years of marriage! What a blessing!! It's so unfortunate that your friend went through that...How heartbreaking. Smh This scares me as a single woman. But I do use wisdom and take heed to all the signs and not get too caught up...Thank God for the gift of discernment.

Great listen! Loved this "TED Talk for the mind and soul"

From day 1, my spirit, it never was able to even listen to Pastor Keion Henderson ministry messages on KZread. I watched Shaun O'Neal on the TV show Basketball Wives and since her departure, more has been revealed about her from her cast mates on the show. I do not watch videos about them. I feel that hesitation, like it is something dark about them.

I totally agree. I just wish i had enough wisdom to check into my ex husband's past relationship. It would have saved me a lot of heartache, pain and disappointment! Being married to Narcissist Pastor almost destroyed me literally.

@kdennisbarry75

Жыл бұрын

Me too, I didn't do enough research about my Pastor ex-husband, nearly cost me my life.

This was great commentary! Ladies, we're not in the business of changing boys into men. At this point in our lives, we're too old to deal with foolishness! If their child rearing didn't do it for them, u definitely can't! PERIOD!!!!!!!!

Shaunie & Pastor Henderson both deserve to be happy and the fact that she is now changing and developing a relationship with God; both are forgiven of their past. Everyone deserves forgiveness and people can change if they want to. I’m here for them having a happy ending! Three is a Charm! I also, see your point, but I also see the silver lining!

@jorjahpeach1711

Жыл бұрын

Amen...

🚩 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 nothing but red flags w this man. Not sure how I stumbled on this channel, but your delivery was awesome.

Prenups protect the possessions and not the heart! Preach!!

@ethelwoolfolk3491

Жыл бұрын

When people show you who they really are you should believe them . I like what you said. Let's just have smarter hearts ,don't just close your hearts but have smarter hearts.❤ praying for that marriage of the Henderson's

Yes, yes, yes! You can protect your money and possessions with a prenup, but you can’t protect your heart or your trust in the next guy who comes into your life. It’s so hard to trust again even though the next guy might have very honorable intentions. Thank you for discussing this very important topic.

I may have contemplated therapy before.. but after listening to you I’m going! For many reasons. Thank you!

I lived in Humble, Tx . Moved there after Katrina. I remember when Keion set up at the church he is at now because when I came from Katrina, the church had a Spanish pastor and ministry under another name who helped the Katrina survivors. When Keion came I was attending a church in the area that had a large AA following and I wondered where Keion came from but noticed he had ties to TD Jakes. There was a church scandal at the church I attended and a lot of the congregation had moved over to his church, I had gotten married and moved at that time. I remember the show closet chats because one of my friends transitioned to Keion church after our church scandal she called me to tell me he was engaged I was surprised that he was engaged because I didn’t know he was divorced as it seemed like I had just saw an episode of closet chats with him and the guys and their wives. It’s seemed like the ex wife has been low key since. Also I could have sworn that, Shaunie when first asked about him she said he was someone that counseled her so I thought it was weird that he was counseling her and then they were dating and engaged. Alsooooo, he was interviewed by himself and said a friend asked him if he was single, and he told them he didn’t want to date anyone but the friend told him it was Shaunie who was asking about him and then he said oh give her my number, the way he answered that didn’t sit right with me. There are areas of that he said he knew she was good in (like I think he said something about tv shows etc) it just sounded opportunistic to me. It’s not for me to judge if their love is real, I’m not saying that. I can say they do seem to make good business match.

@keishawilliams7546

Жыл бұрын

YES, since it was Shaunie he was ok with it, it most definitely gave me opportunity

Desperate to be married at any cost

I’m truely praying that it works for them. I know that Shaq won’t take anyone hurting HIS Shaunie. His children’s mother. I know that they are divorced. But just don’t think he’s gone. He will ALWAYS love her!!! No people can think they are finished. They are doing LIFE !!!

Ladies, if a man claims to be a pastor and has been married twice and divorced twice and his past wife was faithful to him, know that he’s not really following Christ

I knew nothing of this. Chile! Let me call Pastor Gino Jennings and see what he has to say about all this remarrying. Something tells me , this will be short lived......

Thank you so much!!! I needed to hear this. It’s a crazy world out here. May God continue to use you to help others🙏🏾🥰

WOW! I love KEION Henderson’s teachings (works), but you are so on point about his (fruit). 💯

I agree 1000%. Not only did he have a pattern but ladies, anytime you separate from someone, both parties need time to reflect, re-examine and heal. Yeah but when you meet the come up man, he doesn't need to heal bc his main purpose is to extract all he can from you and move on. You best bet is to run from such people.

Ask Cynthia Bailey who married a Man with a history of ?. They are Devoicing

Your commentary was 👁️ opening from a psychological stand point. I learned a lot within short span of time& I'm very appreciative. Thank you 💚💚💚

Thank you for your channel. It instills and maintains the wisdom that oftentimes gets overshadowed in romantic engagements. A mother figure of mine pulled my coat to notice a pattern with a guy that I was so smitten with and thank goodness she did. After giving her the deets on him. She pointed out to me, what I clearly didn't see through my eyes of infatuation. Both of his ex wives were pregnant at their weddings as if it were shot gun, as if it were entrapment. Neither of the marriages lasted longer than 2 years which included separation and divorce. We separated for other reasons, but interestingly enough he is now married, and his bride was pregnant at the wedding. Also there was a baby momma after the two marriages and before us, but she never made it to the alter, yet she made it to the hospital two more times to deliver after we broke up before he went on to subsequently marry number 3.

I belive Keion and Shaunie O'Neal is strictly a business arrangement

This is great wisdom! Thank you for sharing these stories and commentary that we can learn from

I don't feel sorry for Shaunie because she's always involved in some mess

My wonder is he has so many women in his church how did he skip over them for Shaunie, something ain't adding up.

@ralphangel561

Жыл бұрын

They don't have the funds Shaunie has. Simple

@jeanninebuford402

Жыл бұрын

Her bank account.

@charchar7897

Жыл бұрын

It's not a good idea to date among your flock.

From what I have read, this Pastor is only 42 years old and on his third marriage, Good observation on your part for bringing forth a pattern. New subscriber going forward.

You just enlighten me, I knew this was strange because Shaunie O'Neal is not the brand of a pastor's wife, I knew he was not what I thought.

He wants to be known by one name. Looking for fame at Shaunie's level. He would have never been on the Sherie Show. Why is he on a national talk show?

New member! 💕 💕 you! In prayer this morning about some things I needed some answers to and the confirmation came through you I bless you today.

This was so so good and I will completely agree. I am actually an online member of the Lighthouse church and I def. Know God will use anyone the gift is w/o repentance I rmr judging their relationship and the Lord convicted me he told me about myself so I will say this. We all fall short all of us but the advice given is true. I know I have an issue with not getting to truly know the person first. So I’m not dating or focused on marriage or anyone but developing my relationship with Christ first. God bless you all and the podcasts it was so good and so true about testing their fruits and not works because works don’t matter but the fruit works

I truely receive this infomation!- Thanks for sharing- Nobody's perfect but you should keep your eyes open to see any deceitfulness that might cause you more pain.After all everyone comes with some kinda clause that you will miss if you are not careful -Ladies do your homework.

Master class was in session.. Rules to live by.. Your commentary was exquisitely done..........👍💯🔥

Wow, food for thought, the pattern cannot be denied. Thank you!

Choose the FRUIT over the Works

Actually I got to know about him the moment he got engaged to Shaunie . I have never known about his existence ever!