Why Did Megatron Become Weaker After TF-1

In this video we will be talking about, why Megatron became weaker after Transformers 2007.
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  • @LegendaryDarkKnight602
    @LegendaryDarkKnight6023 жыл бұрын

    Michael Bay: Yeah, what he said.

  • @geonite2072

    @geonite2072

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hahahaha! That would so be him!

  • @benDover-qo7mw

    @benDover-qo7mw

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @shrekswamp9969

    @shrekswamp9969

    3 жыл бұрын

    1000 like poggers

  • @thestarbran

    @thestarbran

    3 жыл бұрын

    more like “michael bay: that’s the yellow one right?”

  • @Arkhamman2023

    @Arkhamman2023

    3 жыл бұрын

    E

  • @MrInzombia
    @MrInzombia3 жыл бұрын

    I miss when megatron actually had the strength that made autobots shiver in fear. The megatron that ripped jazz in half like an insect

  • @no-mads21st23

    @no-mads21st23

    2 жыл бұрын

    To me it's like ripping a good doggo apart

  • @MiranAliTuncer

    @MiranAliTuncer

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jazz : You wanna piece with me ...you want a piece Megatron: No I want two

  • @anubismaat2813

    @anubismaat2813

    2 жыл бұрын

    That was so stupid. No transformer is eating bullets to the face like that at point blank range.

  • @HyperionTrading

    @HyperionTrading

    2 жыл бұрын

    The way the autobots said retreat when he arrived.

  • @randomdude5031

    @randomdude5031

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yo that was dark

  • @rgt6969
    @rgt69692 жыл бұрын

    When an Autobot dies, Optimus: We have lost a true warrior When a Decepticon dies, *Megatron doesn't even care*

  • @yourtankhadastrokeandfckin7523

    @yourtankhadastrokeandfckin7523

    2 жыл бұрын

    *Ive got morons on my team*

  • @Milo_Estobar

    @Milo_Estobar

    2 жыл бұрын

    well... thats a villain for you...

  • @Koky-cu3pn

    @Koky-cu3pn

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well he felt sad when he saw starscream’s head in tlk

  • @BlooMonkiMan

    @BlooMonkiMan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Koky-cu3pn Did he though?

  • @RC_RZ

    @RC_RZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    He felt sad for his Starscream in TLK

  • @creepykiller2876
    @creepykiller2876 Жыл бұрын

    Considering that Autobots were originally designed, by Primus, to be primarily scholars, medical workers, and generally fill more "aristocrat" type roles, while the bots that would become Decepticons were primarily manual labor, slaves, and gladiators, it makes sense that Megatron and the Decepticons would initially wipe the floor with The Primes and the Autobots.

  • @siouxperion9786

    @siouxperion9786

    Жыл бұрын

    Is that in the comics? I never read those 😔

  • @lust174

    @lust174

    Жыл бұрын

    @@siouxperion9786 it’s the main concept from transformers and the reason why they are at war. The deceptions want to be able to be more than just labor workers they are right in their fight yet prime has to exist to be a prime which is following the cause of the prime before him

  • @keepkauaiit3551

    @keepkauaiit3551

    Жыл бұрын

    @@siouxperion9786 yes. Int he original stories of transformers. Prime wasn’t always a prime and was known as Orion Pax a librarian and scholar of cybertron.

  • @oggdx

    @oggdx

    Жыл бұрын

    Athens vs Sparta

  • @RandomPerson-hd6wr

    @RandomPerson-hd6wr

    Жыл бұрын

    @@oggdx basically

  • @vaper8824
    @vaper88243 жыл бұрын

    I love how the writers also forgot Megatron was a gladiator and seasoned Veteran when it came to combat.

  • @rudyb9543

    @rudyb9543

    3 жыл бұрын

    thats why i love that new transformers netflix series: war for cybertron ; they concentrate on how megatron had to fight his way up from the pits

  • @hourlylost

    @hourlylost

    3 жыл бұрын

    EXACTLY!

  • @ayana6845

    @ayana6845

    3 жыл бұрын

    FOR CYBERTRON BROTHERS AND SISTERS! DESTROY THE AUTOBOTS

  • @renzluigiaquino7608

    @renzluigiaquino7608

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ayana6845 I think it's safe to say that megatron is basically the general zod of transformers.

  • @acrazysheepdog1555

    @acrazysheepdog1555

    3 жыл бұрын

    The writers and Michael Bay aren’t the same, Bay is the director, not the writer, and I think Bay’s the producer too, but I could be wrong.

  • @oreo_smith955
    @oreo_smith9553 жыл бұрын

    "Why do you have a hole in your chest"? Megatron: Upgrades people,upgrades.

  • @alumlovescake

    @alumlovescake

    3 жыл бұрын

    I can't tell if its a cindeidence or its the joke where Herb voice actor is the KSI guy

  • @chriscarpenter3370

    @chriscarpenter3370

    3 жыл бұрын

    that's how we make the dough

  • @dareka9425

    @dareka9425

    3 жыл бұрын

    Megatron should've upgraded his fingers with the energon sword chomping stuff. Not only he could shatter swords but also anything he can get his hands on.

  • @warriorsoftheuniverse5932

    @warriorsoftheuniverse5932

    3 жыл бұрын

    Reference from the movie Robots

  • @herobrine8626

    @herobrine8626

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@warriorsoftheuniverse5932 yeah i know

  • @luppiantenor8269
    @luppiantenor82692 жыл бұрын

    Tf1: MEGATRON Tf2: Meg Tf3: Meh TF4: Galvatron TF5: Megatron

  • @yuuyjaaj6721

    @yuuyjaaj6721

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bumblebee movie: nowhere to be seen

  • @XVNRX

    @XVNRX

    2 жыл бұрын

    Galvatron deadass left the final battle Which was pathetic

  • @marioandsonicmayham1461

    @marioandsonicmayham1461

    2 жыл бұрын

    TF5 Megsis the strongest one

  • @samrat773

    @samrat773

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marioandsonicmayham1461watch the series first

  • @warryo82

    @warryo82

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marioandsonicmayham1461 megatron tf-1 is stronger because the strong rail gun and megatron was close to kill optimus untill... sam come to kill megatron

  • @mohamedbaradji7504
    @mohamedbaradji75043 жыл бұрын

    I feel like people forgot that when Megatron was revived they used other parts to replace his damaged ones and in TF3 he was weak due to being mortally wounded in TF2. Optimus Prime the entire time got stronger and newer weapons. It’s not Michael Bay and plot holes, it’s us not paying attention.

  • @BlessedOrri

    @BlessedOrri

    2 жыл бұрын

    Facts.

  • @frosta1184

    @frosta1184

    2 жыл бұрын

    True as heck

  • @amoghsawant3801

    @amoghsawant3801

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tf5

  • @thesupernaturals1070

    @thesupernaturals1070

    2 жыл бұрын

    Michael Bay: "uuuuum yeeeeaah...Yep that was the reason. You folks just need to pay more attention"

  • @thesnipersmith3436

    @thesnipersmith3436

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, glad to see some fans use more common sense rather than jumping to conclusions without thinking much

  • @MrPkamara
    @MrPkamara4 жыл бұрын

    “His whole right arm is bigger than his left” hmmm I wonder why 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Theorymus

    @Theorymus

    4 жыл бұрын

    😉

  • @nish912

    @nish912

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wait megatron was build with that cannon right how can he have a another little arm when he has a big cannon Optimus:I wished I looked back on those years and megatron gave me a hug Megatron:I TRIED IDIOT

  • @proridzuan5462

    @proridzuan5462

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dark mind

  • @poopfart69

    @poopfart69

    4 жыл бұрын

    Megatron is meat beating

  • @takudach

    @takudach

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wait a second-

  • @cgarciahfcu
    @cgarciahfcu4 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your effort trying to make sense of the Bayformers. If only Michael Bay would've put that much effort.

  • @reillyontheradio

    @reillyontheradio

    4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome vid dude love it

  • @harveyjennings3729

    @harveyjennings3729

    4 жыл бұрын

    I know, right. Bay doesn't seem to understand the concept of continuity as it pertains to strength levels at all

  • @Theorymus

    @Theorymus

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @FabiTheSnake

    @FabiTheSnake

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@harveyjennings3729 Bay movies: the goal is to make them cool, not to make them have too much continuety.

  • @rogersingh261

    @rogersingh261

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hope your dumbass knows that Bay doesn’t write these movies

  • @GojiBoiEarth1964
    @GojiBoiEarth19642 жыл бұрын

    TF1 Megatron: *was a threat; beats the crap out of Optimus; and ripped Jazz in half* Post-TF1 Megatron: *was a side antagonist; gets destroyed by Optimus; had to double team him and still got demolished*

  • @godzillagurus576

    @godzillagurus576

    Жыл бұрын

    Also TF1 Megatron: *starts running like a baby when humans start shooting at him*

  • @Eradicator_MK666

    @Eradicator_MK666

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@@godzillagurus576he run away it is because he wanted the allspark, and its because of his last word:"MINE ALLSPARK"

  • @dynamic6645

    @dynamic6645

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@godzillagurus576He took those hits like a boss, Optimus went down easily.

  • @xg835
    @xg8352 жыл бұрын

    I like also how it’s kinda poetic that galvatron had a hole in his chest that can destroy things( like optimus’ blades). It’s sort of like his saying “try putting something in my chest now” in reference to tf1

  • @godzillagurus576

    @godzillagurus576

    Жыл бұрын

    Galvatron to sam: try put the cube in my chest now, boi

  • @nicmagtaan1132

    @nicmagtaan1132

    Жыл бұрын

    Bayverse Optimus likes to do headshots

  • @idksomeguy3294

    @idksomeguy3294

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nicmagtaan1132 you can’t really make your head a massive hole tho

  • @madsteve6663

    @madsteve6663

    24 күн бұрын

    Sauron be like: hmb​@@idksomeguy3294

  • @human287
    @human2873 жыл бұрын

    Can we admit, hate it or love it, transformers was apart of all our childhoods, and someday you will miss those Michael bay explosions

  • @RPbirdzz

    @RPbirdzz

    3 жыл бұрын

    I barely watched them so...

  • @reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

    @reconstructionwouldhavesav9472

    3 жыл бұрын

    You must be very young and were not around for the original Trsnsformers Cartoons if the Michael Bay version of transformers was part of your childhood.

  • @RPbirdzz

    @RPbirdzz

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 damn that gatekeeping is better than the royal guards could ever do

  • @phantom_thief_jk9859

    @phantom_thief_jk9859

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RPbirdzz fuck off normie everyone knows you can't enjoy the prestigious bayformers franchise without being a 7 year old I'm 2007. Jk that guy is an idiot for gatekeeping.

  • @quarantinegamer8269

    @quarantinegamer8269

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@phantom_thief_jk9859 watching Transformers makes me nostalgic of the simpler times

  • @Gio_my_hero
    @Gio_my_hero4 жыл бұрын

    Megatron: whips everyone's ass around like ragdolls Some highschool senior with a magic box: *im about to ends this man's whole career*

  • @nish912

    @nish912

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @g.o.s.66

    @g.o.s.66

    4 жыл бұрын

    More like his whole life😂

  • @HarmonyOC

    @HarmonyOC

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's a cube

  • @nish912

    @nish912

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@HarmonyOC ok

  • @sounddoom5836

    @sounddoom5836

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HarmonyOC cube is just a fancy word for box

  • @AdamNoizer
    @AdamNoizer2 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed the movies and appreciate you trying to make sense of Michael Bay’s unexplained character design choices. I’d also add that it’s interesting how in the first movie, Megatron refuses to opt for a human vehicle, due to his pride and sticks with his cybertronian jet. Whereas by the third film, he has been reduced to a shell of his former self, ruling the deceptions from the shadows as a veiled truck in the desert.

  • @Theorymus

    @Theorymus

    2 жыл бұрын

    Happy to help

  • @evanroberts2771

    @evanroberts2771

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Theorymus The correct answer is... the plot required it.

  • @TimaeusEXE
    @TimaeusEXE2 жыл бұрын

    Prime also was holding back because he wasn't sure he could bring himself to kill Megatron. He says "You left me no choice brother" he and Megs were very close so it's pretty in character for him to hold back.

  • @richiebob5477

    @richiebob5477

    Ай бұрын

    I highly disagree if megatron got a hold of the Allspark the human race would be wiped out, the Autobots would’ve lost and the Decepticons would rule the universe, Optimus just got dominated as 07 megatron was too op, he was toying with Optimus and was beating him, when Optimus landed hits megatron just used prime’s own momentum against him, Megatron in tf1 is the best, he’s animalistic brutal and he is strategic, they also flew through a full building killing everybody inside.

  • @TimaeusEXE

    @TimaeusEXE

    Ай бұрын

    @@richiebob5477 again Prime was clearly holding back the entire fight. He barely threw any punches. His voice of regret at the end shows that he didn't want Megatron to die. He was willing to die himself before Megatron to save everyone.

  • @richiebob5477

    @richiebob5477

    Ай бұрын

    @@TimaeusEXE He wasn’t, he was nowhere near megatrons power, prime only won in the other movies is megatron was too weakened

  • @TimaeusEXE

    @TimaeusEXE

    21 күн бұрын

    @@richiebob5477 he wasn't weakened in ROTF. He wasn't Weakened in TLK. Prime wasn't weak, **again** he was holding back the entire fight on the first movie. He was literally suplexing megs in all the other movies because he wasn't holding back then.

  • @richiebob5477

    @richiebob5477

    21 күн бұрын

    @@TimaeusEXE 🤣 bro us delusional

  • @elementrixonline4951
    @elementrixonline49514 жыл бұрын

    Megatron needs to learn from Lockdown. less talking, more fighting.

  • @shubhammhashelkar6717

    @shubhammhashelkar6717

    3 жыл бұрын

    lol, Megatron wants to have a chat with you

  • @W0LV1E45

    @W0LV1E45

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its impossible for Megatron to avoid monologuing while fighting. Even TF Prime Megatron did that. Also G1 during their final fight.

  • @NoNameBoi1

    @NoNameBoi1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mostly starscream need to learn that alot

  • @sonyailona7650

    @sonyailona7650

    3 жыл бұрын

    more like less yappin more blasting

  • @stingraytt330

    @stingraytt330

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well Lockdown isn't a Decepticon.

  • @treyrex5987
    @treyrex59874 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I missed Megatron being like he was in TF 1. Such a badass and doesn't take any crap from nobody.

  • @jaredfetzer7041

    @jaredfetzer7041

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me too because it was Megatron (excuse the pun) in his prime.

  • @treyrex5987

    @treyrex5987

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jaredfetzer7041 Yeah. I'm fine about the pun, made me chuckle a bit.

  • @Theorymus

    @Theorymus

    4 жыл бұрын

    I had a joke like this in the script before i took it "... Megatron had to fight optimus in his prime..."

  • @treyrex5987

    @treyrex5987

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Theorymus My reaction probably would have been like this. "😑 to 😆"

  • @ethibodeaux7

    @ethibodeaux7

    4 жыл бұрын

    Star scream was a savage too I loved the way he flew in on iornhide and ratchet

  • @jakehudson7118
    @jakehudson7118 Жыл бұрын

    The best Megatron design has to be TF5, he looks so badass and puts the fear back in him

  • @riptideanomy1024
    @riptideanomy1024 Жыл бұрын

    We need to give megatron a lot of credit since he was capable of going back to fighting Optimus after being dead for awhile. Not everyone gets a second chance, and to risk getting killed again with a new body that he hadn’t gotten used to yet is impressive.

  • @i_am_forever_alone
    @i_am_forever_alone4 жыл бұрын

    "Who would you be without me, Prime ?"-Megatron

  • @Theorymus

    @Theorymus

    4 жыл бұрын

    "Time to find out" -Optimus Prime

  • @ProbablyMartin

    @ProbablyMartin

    4 жыл бұрын

    “Welp better leave”- Astrotrain

  • @optimusprime5199

    @optimusprime5199

    4 жыл бұрын

    I already told him in 2011.

  • @keanusamuels1782

    @keanusamuels1782

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Theorymus (puts cool mask on)

  • @V1sr.vsp7330

    @V1sr.vsp7330

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sentinal watching Prime kill megatron "WTF"

  • @archfxt3619
    @archfxt36194 жыл бұрын

    Yep , called it Megatron is like that one guy who is almost finished in uno , but then everybody after him pulls a 4+ chain and he takes the hit

  • @JetstreamSam343

    @JetstreamSam343

    4 жыл бұрын

    Are you calling me Megatron? Don't even know if I'm offended of not...

  • @archfxt3619

    @archfxt3619

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JetstreamSam343 lol

  • @dancho0012

    @dancho0012

    4 жыл бұрын

    UNO!

  • @africancouscous

    @africancouscous

    4 жыл бұрын

    UNO!!!

  • @archfxt3619

    @archfxt3619

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@africancouscous dont tempt me

  • @Deadput
    @Deadput2 жыл бұрын

    For his Revenge of the Fallen/Dark of the Moon form, besides what you said about lack of experience in that body my theory is that his actual body was weakened since as we know his second body was made using what was left of his first form in combination with other Decepticon parts. His original body was left in the bottom of the ocean for a couple of years which might of been rusting/wearing down the body, in combination the donated parts that were used to rebuilt him came from a Constructicon (Little One/Scrapmetal) who was likely on the weaker end with how easily/fast the other Constructicons turned on him as well as potentially the other dead 2007 cons that were also at the bottom of the ocean. I think him taking up the shotgun in DOTM was a combination of what you said and due to the fact that he lost his ROTF fusion cannon due to the arm being chopped off, so it was likely both easier and more convenient to build a handheld fire arm over another integrated weapon as well as being better suited for Megatron's preferred fighting style. In general Megatron's body in ROTF/DOTM left him somewhat crippled and the Decepticons were too starved of resources and equipment to properly rebuild him to full capacity, so him being able to get a fresh new body from KSI was a dream opportunity for him.

  • @thecommentguy9380

    @thecommentguy9380

    Жыл бұрын

    Megatron not even an hour after waking up with a KSI body and he already started racking up body count. You can tell just how excited he was getting a well functioning body

  • @nachonaitor5535

    @nachonaitor5535

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@thecommentguy9380even was trying to speedrun the conquer Planet thing

  • @thecommentguy9380

    @thecommentguy9380

    Ай бұрын

    @@nachonaitor5535 Prime was lucky Megatron dipped, because imagine having to fight him in a near indestructable body

  • @hesiod_delta9209
    @hesiod_delta9209 Жыл бұрын

    The Mission city battle was when Optimus realized he needed to arm and train himself for fighting. That's why he took a sudden leap forward in combat effectiveness. This caught Megatron off guard while he was already in a vulnerable state.

  • @RandomBlackGamer
    @RandomBlackGamer4 жыл бұрын

    This was an awesome explanation. I always wondered if it was the disproportion physique that made Megatron a little slower compared to his first form. As you said it makes more sense as to why he was more formidable once he got his TF4 & 5 forms.

  • @Theorymus

    @Theorymus

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well I'm happy you enjoyed the video, stay safe out there RBG 👍

  • @RandomBlackGamer

    @RandomBlackGamer

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Theorymus Same to you man. Stay safe and keep up the good work.

  • @Tainted_Human

    @Tainted_Human

    3 жыл бұрын

    Seeing some of my favourite KZreadrs being just wholesome fuels me

  • @BJ-0007

    @BJ-0007

    3 жыл бұрын

    i like your content

  • @Acidstormstudios

    @Acidstormstudios

    3 жыл бұрын

    As always

  • @ProbablyHungryy
    @ProbablyHungryy4 жыл бұрын

    I feel like that a name like “Trans theories” is not what you think it means

  • @Theorymus

    @Theorymus

    4 жыл бұрын

    Its become too popular to change

  • @spin.chicken

    @spin.chicken

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Theorymus you have 60k subscribers, it is by no means "too popular" to change. Get off your high horse. A Rocket League KZreadr changed his name from JHZER to JZR, while the change is subtle it is still a change and he has approximately ten times the subscribers as you. You can easily adopt the same type of change. "Transformers Theories", "Transitive Theories", "TT" or some other thing of a correlating name/meaning. Changing your name doesn't change your channel in the slightest. People will figure out who you are once they hear your voice, assuming they're a regular viewer. If they're brand new to the channel then changing your name won't matter as they are not accustom to any name yet. Just say "I'm too lazy to bother" as that is way more applicable than "it's too popular" because that excuse is bullshit.

  • @rayyisbaee9132

    @rayyisbaee9132

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@spin.chicken his name is fine if he dont want to he dont have to

  • @nakiah7987

    @nakiah7987

    4 жыл бұрын

    Spin It Like A Chicken I think he’s joking.

  • @ProbablyHungryy

    @ProbablyHungryy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Spin It Like A Chicken woah chill lol

  • @raphaeldagamer
    @raphaeldagamer Жыл бұрын

    As an accompanying note on Galvatron's design, KSI advertised Stinger as more advanced than Bumblebee, but no such advertising was shown for Galvatron, but his alt-mode, a Freightliner Argosy, is the direct successor to the Freightliner FLA series of Cab Over Engine trucks, which just so happens to be the series of trucks that Optimus Prime's alt-mode in G1 came from.

  • @ls89swe
    @ls89swe2 жыл бұрын

    A good theory could also be that on earth Optimus did some digging in human martial arts and warfare and "downloaded" as much as he could. If there is one thing we humans excels at its to make up ways to deliver alot of hurt

  • @dariusbrock2713

    @dariusbrock2713

    Жыл бұрын

    I dont think he needs human martial arts lol. He has a few million years of combat experience and his from a much much older and advanced race than humanity.

  • @kaelenkerr3509

    @kaelenkerr3509

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dariusbrock2713 The 2007 movie proves otherwise

  • @kyzersoze8408

    @kyzersoze8408

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dariusbrock2713 compare his 07 fighting style and ROTF fighting style.

  • @jmb47kkamikaze80

    @jmb47kkamikaze80

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dariusbrock2713 no I do think he looked into human material arts .he was a noobe when he came to earth after all he didn't complete his training. Another reason why the theory makes sense is Optimus is the only who fight like a human cracked on cocaine primal style even t1 Megatron didn't show any of this savagery Optimus now possesses. In t5 he was even more of a menace he would have slaughtered all the knight if bumblebee didn't bring him back to his real self.

  • @dariusbrock2713

    @dariusbrock2713

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kyzersoze8408 in 07 he was fighting in streets with people. He had to be careful. In open ground, he was kicking ass. Destroyed Bonecrusher in 10 seconds.

  • @sluch2456
    @sluch24563 жыл бұрын

    "We were brothers once!" "Once" This hurt cuz Megatron really just wanted to go home

  • @SubarmanSolos

    @SubarmanSolos

    3 жыл бұрын

    Which movie was it? I wanna rewatch every transformers movie 😁

  • @sluch2456

    @sluch2456

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SubarmanSolos The last knight, watch it last

  • @SubarmanSolos

    @SubarmanSolos

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sluch2456 thanks man

  • @itsemzee131

    @itsemzee131

    2 жыл бұрын

    he wouldve survived the fall found unicron and unicron would heal him as long as he goes for quintessa with his dark energon infused armor

  • @yuuyjaaj6721

    @yuuyjaaj6721

    2 жыл бұрын

    The last kday is still better than the last knight

  • @Cyberneticfrk
    @Cyberneticfrk3 жыл бұрын

    A thing you forgot, in Revenge of the Fallen Megatron had extra weight in his legs as they were bigger and bulkier due to becoming a triple changer and having a tank alt mode. This slowed him down a lot more and it's noticeable when he kicks Optimus. The kick is rather slow and Optimus easily grabs his leg and stops the kick.

  • @reginaevans6973

    @reginaevans6973

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah and he was THICK

  • @fiercelunarhavoc4627

    @fiercelunarhavoc4627

    Жыл бұрын

    He doesn't stop the kick though?

  • @Synchronizado

    @Synchronizado

    Жыл бұрын

    @@fiercelunarhavoc4627 and it looked like one would think of as a "critical hit"

  • @hesiod_delta9209

    @hesiod_delta9209

    9 ай бұрын

    The new parts went right to his thighs.

  • @ArtistNotFound123
    @ArtistNotFound1232 жыл бұрын

    A lot of great points made, I especially like the idea that Megatron was controlling Galvatrons design despite the scientists efforts to make it look like Optimus, it makes sense why because it more resembles his original form. Nice explanation.

  • @LegendzPlushStudios
    @LegendzPlushStudios Жыл бұрын

    I really like how in details, you notice in TF2 final battle Megatron slowly walking at Optimus and getting his own gun turned against him not doing anything to stop it, because he’s practically disabled in a body not fully his

  • @quietone2674
    @quietone26744 жыл бұрын

    I'd always thought that the reason he got weaker in 2 and 3 was tied to his resurrection. His body was dropped into the Marianas Trench after the first movie, exposed to the highest pressures on earth as well as salt water and possibly thermal vents. Salt water is *not* good for metal. Combine that with the fact that another Decepticon had to be killed for spare parts, and Megatron is basically a Frankenstein's monster made of corpses. Jetfire in 2 established that age did affect the Transformers, causing them to rust and slowly fall apart. Megatron in Fallen and Dark of the Moon was basically rotting during those movies. It wasn't just weight distribution. His structural integrity was compromised because he was a walking corpse. Was my interpretation anyway.

  • @ApertureDragon

    @ApertureDragon

    4 жыл бұрын

    I can see that being true

  • @iimduu9287

    @iimduu9287

    4 жыл бұрын

    Your idea is spot on I felt the same way

  • @greasypriest5137

    @greasypriest5137

    4 жыл бұрын

    I don't think Bay had the brain capacity for this😂

  • @asu2913

    @asu2913

    4 жыл бұрын

    Oh my god!! Dude you make a huge sense👍

  • @BlooMonkiMan

    @BlooMonkiMan

    4 жыл бұрын

    Even so, they age probably a million times slower than humans

  • @melaniebryson2796
    @melaniebryson27964 жыл бұрын

    "He decides to open up his arms for a hug" Lmao😂😂😂😂😂

  • @suleyman9199

    @suleyman9199

    4 жыл бұрын

    "And then he get S L A P P."

  • @Ryxfold

    @Ryxfold

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@suleyman9199 nah boi he got smack and brought back a big mac from macdonals thats what the ogs say

  • @suleyman9199

    @suleyman9199

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Ryxfold lol

  • @leaderunith4l324
    @leaderunith4l3242 жыл бұрын

    Megaton does have some experience with blades considering he was a gladiator in Kaon before the war, but I don’t think he’s ever had to seriously fight with one in millions of years, so he’s probably just extremely rusty with them

  • @OfficialNeonSky
    @OfficialNeonSky Жыл бұрын

    His Galvatron form felt most comfy to him as it very much fitted his style of combat

  • @kaantheanimator

    @kaantheanimator

    5 ай бұрын

    im sorry but thats NOT galvatron

  • @alexandratavares6612
    @alexandratavares66124 жыл бұрын

    TF1 was the only movie where Megatron was actually intimidating

  • @kylephillip6753

    @kylephillip6753

    4 жыл бұрын

    I remeber being low key scarced of him as a kid

  • @2Leejah3

    @2Leejah3

    4 жыл бұрын

    kyle phillip When I was little and young, Megatron was my favorite. When he got “killed” in the first one, I was crying to my dad that he got “killed.” But he just kept saying that Megatron will be back.

  • @omegagoat4818

    @omegagoat4818

    4 жыл бұрын

    The only other villain that was kind of intimidating was Sentinal and it was only because he killed Ironhide

  • @just_2swift

    @just_2swift

    4 жыл бұрын

    I SMELLL YOUUU!!!...... BOOOYYYYYYY!!!

  • @alexandratavares6612

    @alexandratavares6612

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@just_2swift AAAGGGGRRRRRRRRRRR

  • @michelle057
    @michelle0574 жыл бұрын

    Megatron just doesn’t wanna kill his dear baby optimus

  • @Truly.H1ni

    @Truly.H1ni

    3 жыл бұрын

    If megatron 1v1s optimus in megatrons 2007 form optimus would get his ass whooped up

  • @user-zy5bt3bh9y

    @user-zy5bt3bh9y

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@basedpota optimus was annoying him lol

  • @calvinshiaalvarez6514

    @calvinshiaalvarez6514

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @Soundwavedits2012

    @Soundwavedits2012

    3 жыл бұрын

    Megs just wants his home

  • @thepie193

    @thepie193

    3 жыл бұрын

    I knew my ship was canon

  • @trulyflawfull
    @trulyflawfull3 жыл бұрын

    I always thought it was because Sam forced the Allspark into Megatrons core which permanently messed with his entire body since, you know. its basically his heart. On top of that he was left in the bottom of the ocean for a pretty long time and revived down there so the water could have messed up his insides or maybe some sea creatures got in there. Those were always my reasons for why he got weaker between 1 and 2.

  • @d0rkyyyXD
    @d0rkyyyXD Жыл бұрын

    I'm very new in the community and your explaining makes it easier for me to understand all the movies and characters thank you :)

  • @dknon853
    @dknon8534 жыл бұрын

    The dudes who made the movie probably didn’t even think of this

  • @loukipp5469

    @loukipp5469

    4 жыл бұрын

    Michael Gay

  • @Jamarvious_

    @Jamarvious_

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lou Kipp bruh😂😂

  • @pilkers2

    @pilkers2

    4 жыл бұрын

    It can’t be a coincidence how this makes so much sense

  • @therumtummugger420

    @therumtummugger420

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lou Kipp fuNnEY. gIve LIkE

  • @frozyre7854

    @frozyre7854

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's because they were thinking: $$$$ It shows because they've made 5 damn films of inconsistencies.

  • @dc-vengance5630
    @dc-vengance56303 жыл бұрын

    I think that In tf3, Megatron was still able to dish out insane amounts of damage which you can see when he wrecks sentinel, his issue was that he couldn’t take much damage

  • @rhysbuxton4437

    @rhysbuxton4437

    2 жыл бұрын

    So he is a glass cannon

  • @blyat8832

    @blyat8832

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rhysbuxton4437 no, he was weakened after tf2 and was having repairs done on him at the same time throughout the films he couldn't really do anything unless it really mattered

  • @rhysbuxton4437

    @rhysbuxton4437

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blyat8832 so the most situational glass cannon because in the right circumstances he can do lots of damage but is really easy to take down and when he needed to fight it could have been his last one so he gives it his all

  • @Kaotic_real

    @Kaotic_real

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rhysbuxton4437 I was literally about to say that lol

  • @TheJonbonesjones

    @TheJonbonesjones

    Жыл бұрын

    He wrecks sentinel cause he cheap shorted him multiple times in the back lol. Sentinel would have wrecked him in a fair fight

  • @stefanroche3052
    @stefanroche3052 Жыл бұрын

    Subbed. I love the breakdown and effort put into the Bayverse stories and intricacies. I have a feeling there’s an accidental greatness at times with these movies that what you explain fits in but may not have been part of the intent even.

  • @joshualing5667
    @joshualing56672 жыл бұрын

    Technically, Megatron was really powerful in TF 1, because he could shrug of an ion blast from Optimus,and still shoot him. He could even take plenty of hits and still not die. But in rotf, be was weaker because he wasn't used to his new body, the bots that fixed him placed an allspark piece into his cavity,which gives Megatron a new body and a different fusion canon. In dark of the moon, he becomes a truck for a reason,he was tired and weakened,and he had a shotgun instead. In aoe, he was at least stronger than his rotf and dotm counterparts,but we still don't get to see what more he is capable of. In tlk,he had and even shorter screentime,but his abilities are stronger as well compare to rotf and dotm. So conclusion,his power level: TF 1: 120/100 Rotf: 70/100 Dotm: 15/100 AOE: 85/100 Tlk: 92/100 This is my opinion,you don't have to agree with me.

  • @wat1614
    @wat16144 жыл бұрын

    My theory is that megatron is copying Optimus In the third movie he chose a truck mode like Optimus In the fourth movie he revived like Optimus Im the fifth movie he got a knight body like Optimus

  • @AquawindxOP

    @AquawindxOP

    4 жыл бұрын

    So meg is being an OP poser😂😂

  • @elijahblechman8633

    @elijahblechman8633

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think it's to show how blurred the lines are

  • @nish912

    @nish912

    4 жыл бұрын

    The thing I only loved about megatron in the tlk is he had a mask like optimus

  • @ThiccFurryBoi34

    @ThiccFurryBoi34

    4 жыл бұрын

    TheHoodedHood he also copied his blade weapon

  • @cureofcoronavirus6460

    @cureofcoronavirus6460

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well megatron is a copycat

  • @diaz5077
    @diaz50774 жыл бұрын

    the title should be optimus throws uno reverse card on megatron

  • @magmaticgames
    @magmaticgames2 жыл бұрын

    Part of me would like to believe that the screenwriters put all of the different chassis modifications and new fighting noves in to support the theories you provide but honestly, they probably just tried to make megatron look meaner and more intimidating for each movie.

  • @mistertaffy6720
    @mistertaffy67202 жыл бұрын

    I love how the designers made Megatrons figure to be a brawler, considering the lore behind Megatron.

  • @Emperorparubo
    @Emperorparubo4 жыл бұрын

    HE'S BACK, HE'S ALIVE TRANS THEORIES IS HERE!!!!

  • @noobasaurusrex105

    @noobasaurusrex105

    4 жыл бұрын

    We got your theory and we’re here

  • @Arkhamman2023

    @Arkhamman2023

    4 жыл бұрын

    Trans Theories is always alive and well. Unlike some other bayverse autobots...

  • @admiralpotato9895

    @admiralpotato9895

    4 жыл бұрын

    He is just taking good time to make original and fact filled transformers videos

  • @davidputzfeld1486

    @davidputzfeld1486

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Return of the King!

  • @steven_miles5545

    @steven_miles5545

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hell yeah! Boom time! We got the gang back together!

  • @buffor-664
    @buffor-6644 жыл бұрын

    When Optimus kills grindor, he says "No prime please no"

  • @buffor-664

    @buffor-664

    3 жыл бұрын

    I lied he says "*halo elite gargles*"

  • @giannis_toupolemou

    @giannis_toupolemou

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Forest Dump no he does say "no prime" while optimus was climbing his tall body. Followed by, "please" just before optimus planted both hooks on his face. And finally, "Noooo!" While getting his face torn in half.

  • @lombe-andrewmusonda17

    @lombe-andrewmusonda17

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@giannis_toupolemou true I saw that scene yesterday and I was mind blown

  • @Admiral_Hayden4411

    @Admiral_Hayden4411

    3 жыл бұрын

    Even more violent then me

  • @Admiral_Hayden4411

    @Admiral_Hayden4411

    3 жыл бұрын

    Who dares

  • @KingPredaking9229
    @KingPredaking9229 Жыл бұрын

    My favourite design of Megatron is the revenge of the fallen/rotf transformation because it wasn’t like his cybertronion jet form and was a cool looking cybertronion tank that could also fly and I have to admit my least favourite part about him is the way his left arm looks like it’s a scraplets arm and is tiny but out of the designs I like tlk megatrons blaster and how he can retract it and his battle mask is awesome, something we never saw on Megatron before.

  • @theinevitable590
    @theinevitable5902 жыл бұрын

    I literally just found your videos, been a huge fan of the Transformers and Megatron happens to be my favourite character even though he's the bad guy, lol, he's just such a beast.. awesome work man, I love how you broke everything down.

  • @Theorymus

    @Theorymus

    2 жыл бұрын

    Happy to help you 👍

  • @regvidaglazauskiene502
    @regvidaglazauskiene5023 жыл бұрын

    MEGATRON in TF-1 was a SAVAGE.

  • @Mythowars

    @Mythowars

    Жыл бұрын

    I wish he would’ve eaten jazz’s spark after ripping him in two

  • @parkertitle1923

    @parkertitle1923

    Жыл бұрын

    TF-3 i need to stop destroying the scalpel units.

  • @reginaevans6973

    @reginaevans6973

    Жыл бұрын

    TF-4 I need a army

  • @reginaevans6973

    @reginaevans6973

    Жыл бұрын

    TF-5 I need Cybertron

  • @she-venom9842
    @she-venom98424 жыл бұрын

    He still cared for his home as always does do anything to save his home even in bad way

  • @vladimirgluten5269
    @vladimirgluten526911 ай бұрын

    Awesome work as always, keep it up, God bless you.❤🙏

  • @fallentitan9286
    @fallentitan92865 күн бұрын

    This video helps a lot, I'm trying to make a DND character based off of Megatron, and seeing how he changed over time in the movies might make the class choice easier

  • @dimitri_tsm
    @dimitri_tsm3 жыл бұрын

    "Optimus caught him off guard monologuing" Ah, Classic Megatron

  • @ProbablyMartin
    @ProbablyMartin4 жыл бұрын

    2:53 : megaton opens his arms up to optimus for a hug. Megatron;We we’re brothers once. Optimus: once. *slash*

  • @exauproductions739

    @exauproductions739

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @blitzhd_8494

    @blitzhd_8494

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wonder if he was trying to slash Prime vertically but had trouble lifting the arm up

  • @justaguywithagoodphoto4801

    @justaguywithagoodphoto4801

    4 жыл бұрын

    BlitzHD _ tbh that would make sense that look at that thing on his should that thing looks more like a disadvantage then an advantage

  • @blitzhd_8494

    @blitzhd_8494

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@justaguywithagoodphoto4801 If he manages to bring it down on Prime it would probably deal massive amounts of damage But it's not worth the weight

  • @justaguywithagoodphoto4801

    @justaguywithagoodphoto4801

    4 жыл бұрын

    BlitzHD _ tbh i don’t think he could do it on prime unless he had the element of surprise which would be difficult since most of the time optimus is with the autobots And since he’s a brawler it would be much easier if he could use the sword on optimus instead of the shoulder pad

  • @millenniumrebel4521
    @millenniumrebel4521 Жыл бұрын

    This explains all my questions so thank u

  • @logandauphinee3476
    @logandauphinee34762 жыл бұрын

    this makes so much sense! i always wondered this as a wee lad. love the vids trans! keep it up!

  • @Theorymus

    @Theorymus

    2 жыл бұрын

    Happy to help

  • @eggoryheffley7569
    @eggoryheffley75694 жыл бұрын

    Who would win An OP gigantic robot that lead to his planet’s downfall, tossed his arch-nemesis around like a ragdoll, tore an Autobot in half and literally destroyed everything in his way Or An ordinary teenager and the magic Rubik’s Cube the gigantic robot was looking for

  • @eggoryheffley7569

    @eggoryheffley7569

    3 жыл бұрын

    Esteban Herrera Jr. hahaha. You knew it

  • @TheGreatMeme

    @TheGreatMeme

    3 жыл бұрын

    *never underestimate a Rubik's cube.*

  • @eggoryheffley7569

    @eggoryheffley7569

    3 жыл бұрын

    TheGreatMeme Gaming hehe

  • @justinhansen9355

    @justinhansen9355

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m dying

  • @chief5604

    @chief5604

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’ll say Michael Bay with no explanations kust letting you die instantly

  • @landon6702
    @landon67024 жыл бұрын

    Let’s be honest plot armor was to strong for even megs to handle

  • @TheJesterOfLust
    @TheJesterOfLust Жыл бұрын

    These theories take way too much effort great work

  • @davidbrowne3102
    @davidbrowne3102 Жыл бұрын

    This was an amazing break down!

  • @CtefoxZeus
    @CtefoxZeus3 жыл бұрын

    Bay-verse were awesome upto TF3. After that, it became like a trash series. The bots designs, the story line, the time line, all over the places.

  • @dedi6787

    @dedi6787

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes *The good old golden original trilogy*

  • @julietbengulo3086

    @julietbengulo3086

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah the more humanoid design kinda bothers me

  • @jamesonschaltzdm4476

    @jamesonschaltzdm4476

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel you M8 At the 1st to 3rd film Optimus said that the Cube was the one who created them But when it comes to the 4th and 5th everything changed Optimis now said that "Quinntessa" was their creator and that the Medieval People 1st encointered the Transformers If you compare it to the 1st film Optimus said that Sam Witwicky's grandfather was the One who 1st encountered a transformer (Megatron). He clearly said "It was an accident that Entertwined our Fates" The 5h movie was clearly rushed they didn't expalin everything on why Galvatron turned back into Megatron.

  • @bluepineapple4396

    @bluepineapple4396

    3 жыл бұрын

    Though admittedly I do like megatrons tf5 design

  • @snusemcgoose1001

    @snusemcgoose1001

    3 жыл бұрын

    One thing I don’t see anybody mention is when they kill decepticons in the later movies, like robot “blood” shoots out which I think is just stupid, it was way cooler in TF2 when sideswipe killed barricade and sliced through him and a bunch of nuts and bolts came out

  • @jjgee6505
    @jjgee65054 жыл бұрын

    Im going to make my honest opinion I think trans theories is the best Transformer KZreadr ever

  • @Theorymus

    @Theorymus

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hell ya

  • @ProbablyMartin

    @ProbablyMartin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah*

  • @davidputzfeld1486

    @davidputzfeld1486

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Theorymus HEELLLL YYEEAAAHHH:D

  • @ProbablyMartin

    @ProbablyMartin

    4 жыл бұрын

    Honest*

  • @Arkhamman2023

    @Arkhamman2023

    4 жыл бұрын

    Trans Theories > Fire Brothers =]

  • @kezo8995
    @kezo89952 жыл бұрын

    First one of your videos I've seen. New subscriber straight away!

  • @cantopig9639
    @cantopig9639 Жыл бұрын

    "He is also equipped with a battle axe" My brother in Christ, that is a sword

  • @stevenneese2823
    @stevenneese28233 жыл бұрын

    Optimus has never been as big or strong as megatron. Megatron has always overpowered Optimus. However, Optimus was faster, more agile, and smarter than megatron. His battle strategy was much better than megatron's, as like you said, he was a brawler. I think that what we see as the series goes on is Optimus consistantly adjusting his battle strategy, and using his speed to outclass megatron. At no point through any of the films did Optimus ever over power megatron except when combined with jetfire. He only out classes/outsmarts him, after taking many hard overpowering blows. Optimus was a scientist and a prime after all. However, his body degradation sure looks like it plays a role after watching your video.

  • @muhammadyogafarhan7777

    @muhammadyogafarhan7777

    3 жыл бұрын

    In my opinion Megatron is not weak but optimus who starts to get used to the earth and optimus always loses when fighting in the city because he wants to save humans, if in TF 2 why doesn't he hold back even though there is Sam, because he is cornered then that is the last choice to protect Sam and he is also really angry and if when fighting Galvatron, Optimus is protecting Tessa and Optimus doesn't need to give all his abilities. So the megatron is not becoming weak but optimus is evolve faster. Sorry bad english

  • @benbob9759

    @benbob9759

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bro what are u talking about he literally killed megatron in tf3. And wouldve killed him in tf2 if he didnt have help

  • @muhammadyogafarhan7777

    @muhammadyogafarhan7777

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@benbob9759 I have already said that the optimus is getting stronger, not the megatron that is getting weaker

  • @envious40

    @envious40

    3 жыл бұрын

    Optimus is stronger and more faced in combat although megatron can withstand more hits and blasts and has more armor. It might seem that megatron is stronger because he always beats prime but that is false prime has to protect the humans and fight off the decipticons it’s like he’s protecting and fighting at the same time. Prime would risk his life to save the humans

  • @benbob9759

    @benbob9759

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@muhammadyogafarhan7777 i didnt reply to you

  • @KANIKAINDAHUNCHO
    @KANIKAINDAHUNCHO3 жыл бұрын

    I personally think that Prime was indeed holding back in the first film, it was pretty obvious because he wanted to sacrifice himself to end the war, that was his goal for that battle. In ROTF you could see how he fought as he was pissed that Megatron was revived so he was really in a fighting mode.

  • @enzoreysameon9624

    @enzoreysameon9624

    2 жыл бұрын

    its because due to megatrons new body giving him a disadvantage and for optimus new training

  • @KANIKAINDAHUNCHO

    @KANIKAINDAHUNCHO

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@enzoreysameon9624 true💯

  • @dariusbrock2713

    @dariusbrock2713

    Жыл бұрын

    He couldve easily thought of shoving the cube into Megatron's chest himself, but I'm sure he didn't even want to kill Megatron because he still considered him a friend. He was even a bit sad when Sam killed Megatron and he bends over and says "You left me no choice, brother"

  • @Alexgodofwar5662

    @Alexgodofwar5662

    Жыл бұрын

    @@enzoreysameon9624 what new body it was always the same

  • @NiCoNiCoNiCola

    @NiCoNiCoNiCola

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dariusbrock2713 Optimus basically went "Friendship ended with Megatron. Now Sam is my best friend." after TF 2007

  • @x_r3sh_
    @x_r3sh_ Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely love the intro ❤️

  • @calebcarlton6935
    @calebcarlton69352 жыл бұрын

    I actually liked the fallen and DOTM megaton the best. The alt form is just so good imo, he gets amazing off road, good control and a cannon. Plus I just really love the design. Even if it’s the weakest form I still like it the best.

  • @amirulmustaqim2883
    @amirulmustaqim28834 жыл бұрын

    The weakest Megatron is on DOTM movie, doesn't feel his a super villian

  • @racetoria3069

    @racetoria3069

    4 жыл бұрын

    coming into dotm megatron got hes ass kick twice already. so him being all clunky,weak and rusty makes sense ^^ TLK is horrendous , bay complete ignored megatron's upgraded body in AOE... i think they just change it 4 no reason whatsoever so that they could sell new megatron designed toys... $$$

  • @Boldipie

    @Boldipie

    4 жыл бұрын

    He’s barely in the goddamn movie, I hate how he’s shoved to the side in the last 4 movies. He was genuinely terrifying in the 07 film, he just made you constantly think the Autobots were going to lose. In the later movies he is swapped out for mindless, weak, and sh*tty Megatron. And then they bring in these other mindless main villains (only one I like is Lockdown since he has a similar scare factor to that of TF1 Megatron). They ruined Megatron just after 1 movie, what a shame.

  • @mooingsage8138

    @mooingsage8138

    4 жыл бұрын

    Weakest? He defeated Sentinel before Optimus killed him and Sentinel

  • @racetoria3069

    @racetoria3069

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mooingsage8138 he backstabbed sentinel, it wasnt a straight fight,so megatron won.. we wont know who would win in a face to face fight.. since he is portrayed as constantly being fixed in dotm,so assuming he s weak is a good point i guess.

  • @MaelztromProductions
    @MaelztromProductions4 жыл бұрын

    You know, you pointing things out like how the megatron fights scene in transformers 5 being an homage to the fight scene in rotf but he learned from his mistakes, is the type of thing that makes me realise that there was a little more thought being put in these movies than we originally believed. So micheal bay should be praising you for lowering the amount of hate we give him.

  • @user-pf1bo6ff9h

    @user-pf1bo6ff9h

    4 жыл бұрын

    sometimes i wonder, do we hate him just because he didnt make movie we wanted. all we had was comics and animated series, but live action is very different than both media. of course the movie will be 99% cgi, but for the movie to work human character is needed.

  • @adawnicusautocon

    @adawnicusautocon

    4 жыл бұрын

    You may have a point, I don't necessarily hate the movie. But I understand why so many people are mad about it

  • @MaelztromProductions

    @MaelztromProductions

    4 жыл бұрын

    I don't think we hated the movies because they weren't like g1, because by the first bayformers movie there were many variations already. I thunk we just disliked what he did. He didn't put enough money towards the writing so we had a jumbled mess of a franchise, but thanks to trans theories, we can see the story a bit better.

  • @adawnicusautocon

    @adawnicusautocon

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MaelztromProductions Yeah, that's actually my reason why hes screwed up transformers, he messed up the plot, but he also added too much humans and i don't know if there was any development

  • @Nicho_Cheesy

    @Nicho_Cheesy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Adawnicus E. I enjoyed the movies a lot. I'm simple, I don't care for story or plot, I just want to see badass robots fighting each other and causing explosions. I feel like that's what Michael Bay was trying to do as well. He doesn't necessarily want to appeal to an audience who wants a story, he wants to appeal to an audience that just like badass shit. People like me, so to me the transformers movies are fucking awesome.

  • @SKORPIO_228
    @SKORPIO_2285 ай бұрын

    You seriously think that after *millions* of years of war on Cybertron, Optimus didn't learn how to beat Megatron, but after 2 years on Earth, he learned how to fight 3 transformers (including Megatron) at once?

  • @dynamic6645

    @dynamic6645

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah, especially considering Megatron stayed in the ice for centuries, and in cryostasis at hoover dam for 73 years, he still ripped Jazz in 2 pieces and defeated Optimus one on one.

  • @ryandymond2195
    @ryandymond21952 жыл бұрын

    4:47 I like when he says that Optimus broke Megatron's face. He basically described Optimus Prime.

  • @toothclaw6985
    @toothclaw69854 жыл бұрын

    I also thought the "Optimus was holding back" argument for the first film was sort of valid, but limited. The very fact that he was willing to undergo such a drastic measure to stop Megatron (committing suicide by pushing the Allspark into his own chest), both when planning and in the end of the final battle, shows you how desperate he was. Why would he choose such a drastic measure before simply fighting back harder (and still trying to be as careful as he can with the humans still in the city)?

  • @diavora

    @diavora

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why holding back with the risk of lose the fight and guaranteed the humanity to the damnation?

  • @toothclaw6985

    @toothclaw6985

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@diavora Exactly, that's my point.

  • @drfatcat6559

    @drfatcat6559

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think it was when they lost cybertron

  • @arctixanarchy8908

    @arctixanarchy8908

    4 жыл бұрын

    Daniel Hong he didn’t want to take such a monumental risk if it wasn’t on a planet he was a guest on he would have but him and megatron fought together for ages before choosing their sides and stands to reason they would know each others combat techniques and prime also hasn’t been seen to have any training ever while on earth just what he got on cybertron and primes are amongst the most powerful beings on cybertron and their combat is unrivalled but they aren’t fighters at least prime doesn’t like to just resort to that Michal did him dirty in that the best representation of prime I’ve seen is from the transformers tv show transformers prime

  • @toothclaw6985

    @toothclaw6985

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@arctixanarchy8908 I'm sorry, I'm not entirely sure what your overarching point is here. I'm not usually one to be a stickler on sentence structure on the Internet, but your complete lack of punctuation makes it very difficult for me to distinguish between one possible point and another.

  • @BonnCanlasGaming45
    @BonnCanlasGaming454 жыл бұрын

    Micheal Bay: Megatron, I'm gon'na give you a cooler design, but for a price. Megatron: Great, what price? Micheal Bay: Your strength

  • @wisephoenix6871
    @wisephoenix68712 жыл бұрын

    I watched this video so many times, and I forgot about this scene in ROTF, when Sam gets blown up by Megatron, Megatron gets hit by tank rounds and as he shoots his cannon his arm cocks back so many times as he shoots. As you said with Megatrons Gun reducing recoil in the first movie and the weight with Megatrons cannon in ROTF.

  • @sergioferrero46
    @sergioferrero46 Жыл бұрын

    I subscribed to your channel thanks to this video, which I saw as soon as it came out. I see it again because I think it's one of the best on your channel, congratulations. Speaking of the Transformers film franchise, there are many things to feel sorry for, such as its tremendous drop in quality film by film or the cancellation of the sixth movie, but the one that saddens me the most is the Megatron issue. In the first movie he was just terrifying, he was imposing and he slaughtered Optimus without difficulty. It really did feel like any Autobot that got in his way would be ripped apart (RIP Jazz), even Ratchet orders a retreat when he arrives. Yes, the franchise was looking for a new villain in each installment, but that shouldn't have stopped us from seeing the terrifying Megatron from the first movie (IMO, both Galvatron and his TF 5 form are stronger than in TF 1, what a shame we didn't get to see him that much). What a pitty

  • @xxgamingbest5865
    @xxgamingbest58654 жыл бұрын

    Megatron : bro i double crossed a prime and potentially saved you, we good? Optimus : Nah bro Megatron : come again?

  • @ironberzerk515

    @ironberzerk515

    3 жыл бұрын

    U stabbed me in the back in tf2

  • @pakkasaurus

    @pakkasaurus

    3 жыл бұрын

    iron berzerk team fortress 2 was a harsh time for optimus

  • @TheBreadMan25

    @TheBreadMan25

    3 жыл бұрын

    I like how tf2 can both refer to team fortress 2 AND transformers 2. Plus, both have somebody getting stabbed in the back XD

  • @jjpelaez1733

    @jjpelaez1733

    3 жыл бұрын

    You killed my brothers and killed our planet the fuck you mean we good

  • @obi-wanpepproni3576

    @obi-wanpepproni3576

    3 жыл бұрын

    in the novel prime spares him as long as he never comes to earth again

  • @bruhmaster6995
    @bruhmaster69954 жыл бұрын

    If only we had the tf1 megatron strength with his tf5 design

  • @donaldbridgewater5786

    @donaldbridgewater5786

    4 жыл бұрын

    Tf1 megatron tf2 fallen tf3 sentinel prime tf4 lockdown tf5 quintessa & nemesis prime tf6 unicron

  • @wheeljack2279

    @wheeljack2279

    4 жыл бұрын

    He would be such a badass!

  • @nish912

    @nish912

    4 жыл бұрын

    @VorTex 9 we alretd have a tf6 tf7 is gonna be rise of unicron

  • @Arkhamman2023

    @Arkhamman2023

    4 жыл бұрын

    What is it with Michal Bay making awesome Transformers designs for the charcters but they don't get to do anything special 🤔

  • @nish912

    @nish912

    4 жыл бұрын

    @VorTex 9oh hell naw

  • @graydogger5711
    @graydogger5711 Жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @hasher7638
    @hasher7638 Жыл бұрын

    Just found your channel. What a great channel name

  • @TonyJaaFan1587
    @TonyJaaFan15874 жыл бұрын

    Who agrees with me that Hugo weaving was the best voice for the movie version of Megatron

  • @exaviermualo3315

    @exaviermualo3315

    3 жыл бұрын

    hell yeah

  • @vickerandflips8061

    @vickerandflips8061

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, although i prefer Welker as the voice of Galvatron.

  • @hammerhorn5212

    @hammerhorn5212

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me to 👍

  • @akhonankosi4704

    @akhonankosi4704

    3 жыл бұрын

    Still like Welker

  • @puffpuffpassmako
    @puffpuffpassmako3 жыл бұрын

    I always thought it was cause after 1, Megatron's body was slowly degrading from then on. In 2, he was dropped into the Marianas trench and rotted away. So he needed pre owned parts, which took getting used to. Megatron lost all his upgrades, his weapons, everything. All the rotting and use of pre owned parts weakened him. And in Dark of the Moon, he's missing half his face. He even has bugs eating away at it, which is a clear reference to the human skin eating condition: gangrene. He had to wear a cloak to hide and protect the open wound, and since he didn't have the allspark he couldn't repair it. So not only does he have rot, barely any original parts, now he has an infection eating away at him. Then in AOE and TLK he was repaired from the ground up. First the transformium enhancement, then Quintessa giving him a more upgraded version of his original body

  • @thechunky1ne

    @thechunky1ne

    3 жыл бұрын

    You said a couple of things wrong, he was dropped in the laurentian abyss, not marianas trench. And those “bugs” were scalpel clones trying to fix him, not eat away at his face.

  • @strelis6615

    @strelis6615

    2 жыл бұрын

    and he just kills those scalpel clones while he’s talking to soundwave in tf3

  • @thearnorianruby4681

    @thearnorianruby4681

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually, the "bugs" are actually tiny Decepticons doctors that are "REPAIRING" him.

  • @RC_RZ

    @RC_RZ

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well the bugs are fixing him

  • @Anonymous-pq1tx

    @Anonymous-pq1tx

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wrong

  • @lgl8738
    @lgl8738 Жыл бұрын

    I forgot how good your channel was

  • @Darth_Box
    @Darth_Box3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome theory, I love it! Although I would like to elaborate more on the part where you explain optimus losing to megatron. I can agree that optimus lost to megatron before and again, but I would like to elaborate. This is because optimus has only been in his new diesel truck body for a few day and he only discovered his uses in the body and like megatron fought for years in his 07 body. Megatron had the upper hand due to his combat record in his 07 body. I hope you find this theory useful and please drop a reply if you can. Have a good day.

  • @holdynmcpletl4903
    @holdynmcpletl49034 жыл бұрын

    my favorite megatron designs ever

  • @captaindonut3580

    @captaindonut3580

    4 жыл бұрын

    Which one

  • @holdynmcpletl4903

    @holdynmcpletl4903

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@captaindonut3580 all of them

  • @captaindonut3580

    @captaindonut3580

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@holdynmcpletl4903 yeah, you have to admit that they all look very good

  • @captaindonut3580

    @captaindonut3580

    4 жыл бұрын

    Personally I prefer the one from revenge of the fallen, I just wish that megatron had arms that would actually look "natural" with his body

  • @nish912

    @nish912

    4 жыл бұрын

    I hate the starscream that always betray megatron and I just want him to get shot out of no where bc he is worthless

  • @sideswipe696
    @sideswipe6964 жыл бұрын

    Great video Trans and well said! After Megatron got revived he had no experience with his new body and because of that he wasn't really good at combat.He wasn't anywhere near his TF1 performance,and the weight distribution issue made him even more vulnerable in hand to hand attacks,if megatron hadn't had his backup then he would get destroyed by Prime.

  • @lymie9155

    @lymie9155

    4 жыл бұрын

    Also, don't forget that his original body from TF1 was built with some of the strongest materials and had a very sturdy exoskeleton to withstand attacks at close range since he presumably a brawler. In TF2 his minions just grabbed whatever scraps and shit they could find and cobbled him together.

  • @MrBingo-rv4mk
    @MrBingo-rv4mk2 жыл бұрын

    Ayo keep the content up bro, this is the first vid I watched and it was pretty interesting

  • @Theorymus

    @Theorymus

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thx man

  • @allthings2848
    @allthings28482 жыл бұрын

    Good video bro

  • @bimbo438
    @bimbo4383 жыл бұрын

    I dont get why people ignore that prime wasn't used to his body in tf1, he just got it so he didnt know the strengths and weaknesses

  • @opopp6240
    @opopp62404 жыл бұрын

    3:00 you can kinda see Megatron push Starscream out of his way

  • @mift4865

    @mift4865

    2 жыл бұрын

    Now that explains y he was aiming so long

  • @jacobdubois7940

    @jacobdubois7940

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup and it explains why starscream fell

  • @keemnathan-
    @keemnathan-2 жыл бұрын

    When I seen the name of this channel I wasn’t sure wtf I was getting into but I’m glad I stuck around 😂😂

  • @HistorysHaven
    @HistorysHaven Жыл бұрын

    If D&D wrote the Transformers trilogy: *"Yeah, we kinda forgot about Megatron's abilities"*

  • @anxiousearth680
    @anxiousearth6803 жыл бұрын

    1:04 Is it really safe to say though? Even in the forrest battle, Optimus is not defeated because he was an inferior fighter but because of enemy tactics and numbers. Same goes for Megatron's first death. He didn't do badly but was taken off guard. A war is not a duel between two people. So using Cybertron's fall as an argument to Optimus being weaker does not work.

  • @pursuedcomic3

    @pursuedcomic3

    2 жыл бұрын

    More than that, it was directly his concern for Sam that caused him to slow for a moment and lower his guard, which is all it took.

  • @kingdicehoi4lubu746

    @kingdicehoi4lubu746

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe the assumption comes much more from the fact that he is willing to sacrifice himself before the battle even stsrts showing he is not confident in his ability to win alone with Megatron

  • @JeffreyJeffreyFLF
    @JeffreyJeffreyFLF4 жыл бұрын

    You're smarter than Michael Bay, you could have made a better Transformers 6 movie - Rise of Unicron.

  • @Yu-ub6gp

    @Yu-ub6gp

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ye, idk if I would be talking if I didn't know the different between your and you're.

  • @JeffreyJeffreyFLF

    @JeffreyJeffreyFLF

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Yu-ub6gp how about now? re-read it as I edited my wrong english word.

  • @thegamingduck3429
    @thegamingduck34292 жыл бұрын

    i luv how you start the video saying "welcome autobots and deceptigons"