Huh. Mimir saw the story of Macbeth

I get it now. Groa lied by omission because if Odin knew that only Asgard will fall and all the realms will survive, he might have escaped to Midgard or any other realm, thus preventing his death at Ragnarok. But because she lied about all the other realms getting destroyed, Odin stayed in asgard and tried to defend it with all his might and forcing the other realms to help him and inevitably failed.

@zildjianabuser

Жыл бұрын

But if that was the case, why didn't Odin just do that during Ragnarok?

@mindIsAMonkey

11 ай бұрын

because it was odin vs the world, his family knew his colors, heimdall is gone, he killed thor and anyone else he thinks of as an ally, would have been easily eliminated because of Kratos and Freya and basically the rest of the world right? in another theory, Odin could not stand being ignorant of how it ends, he couldnt stand ignorant when he knew there was infinite knowledge about all of creation and everything just beyond the threshold of the mask and the mask was only in Asgard... and in his mind he knew thats why he killed so many and lost some of his own too... so he chose the lesser evil between being ignorant and being dead, the latter. what do you think? @zildjianabuser

@mindIsAMonkey

11 ай бұрын

yes I hear you... if the Odin in the game knew all except Asgard would fall, he would have even went to the lengths of invading every realm and even destroying them before anything happened to Asgard

@zildjianabuser

11 ай бұрын

@@mindIsAMonkey best guess would be maybe he had to stay to defend the rift, but Groa didn't know about that, only a glimpse that Asgard would be destroyed and all that. And she would have no reason to say that everything would be wrecked because she should want Odin to commence with Ragnarok not postpone it. Honestly what I think is the writers either rushed or didn't think too much about what was established in the first game.

@mindIsAMonkey

11 ай бұрын

@@zildjianabuser in my personal opinion, the nature of prophecies always give the end result. They don’t delve into the details. Mimir uses the specific term “slippery”. And Odin for the master of deception that he is, figured that if he couldn’t avoid something inevitable, then he could delay it. Or control enough factors to influence the outcome. For example, imprisoning the wolves skoll and hati. Honestly I think part of the prophecies was that the giants would be the ones to end him, this is why throughout the story, we hear how many giants were slaughtered by Odin and thor. Now many of these facts are presented in the first game and ragnarok through mimir’s narratives. I don’t think Groa had a lot of time to think what exact version of her prophecy to Odin would be foolproof since she was a giantess herself. She merely thought she was both tricking Odin and saving other realms at once….

Thing is the witches never technically lied; Groa’s lie still makes no sense.

@MichaelMiller-bs3tz

Жыл бұрын

Details are everything. Groa's lie concealed the fact that a God of War lead the armies as well as the Giants Champion as well hiding the fact that the prophecy specifically calls out Odin's death. The lie protected not only the real Tyr (because its likely had Odin knew the full prophecy he would have killed him) it also protected Kratos once Odin figured out who he was. That lie also protected Atreus because he would have very likely deduced (or suspected) that Atreus was the champion. Concealing the fact Odin specifically dies allows him a false sense of hope believing he can survive it even if Ragnarok happens. Once Odin discovered the true prophecy he became more desperate and dangerous.

@ryanhowe5753

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t buy it either. A lot of plot points in this game felt like they were written at the last minute and not thought about at all