The simplest answer is the more you see yourself in someone else, the more you dislike them. They make you see your faults and you cannot look away. Besides in the case of these actresses, they were played like puppets by studio executives. Truly a shame.

@JackMason-oq8lf

7 ай бұрын

Only in your imagination was Bette Davis ever a chump to any man's manipulation. You really don't know much about her if you think she just lollled, "how high?" if some jerk ordered her to jump. White Women Don't Jump.

For some reason, I've always been more partial to Bette Davis, but I think they were both equally mean and snarky. Perhaps with good reason.

@scotnick59

3 жыл бұрын

Well, Bette was pretty much the better actress; her versatility alone was something Joan did not have.

@darnellmajor9016

2 жыл бұрын

@@scotnick59 what versatility? Bette was just about the same person in every movie she was in just like Joan was nearly the same person LOL Some films you saw their range but in most they played themselves lol

@jollyfighter7319

Жыл бұрын

@@darnellmajor9016 tell us, you have no idea about Talent, without telling us you have no idea about talent.

I don't think they "hated each other" they just worked differently and weren't 'friends' that's all -

@creativewriter3887

Жыл бұрын

Exactly.. and Bette Davis got more and more exasperated with the out of control rumors and "tales" of their "feud" towards the end of her life and ESPECIALLY after working with Faye Dunaway. More than once she made it clear that the kind of behavior that many THOUGHT happened between Davis and Crawford would simply never be tolerated on any set and that above all, despite what she thought of Crawford, they were professionals and were civil. She may not have liked Crawford, but she was quick to point out how they were both women and even they knew and were on to what the studios and the gossip columns were doing.

For me..JOAN and her best movies have endured. And JOAN was visually incredible when filmed.✨

When I was 5, I named my guinea pig Bette after Bette Davis cause my mother always said I was dramatic like her 🤣

I love BOTH these ladies, they had it tough, in a man's world. They have given us all so much entertainment.

@scotnick59

3 жыл бұрын

I cannot disagree with what you stated above! Certainly true and well-put.

@oriraykai3610

2 жыл бұрын

Standard exuse. "Man's world". I can just imagine how things would be for hapless males in a "woman's world".

@McMahonHater

2 жыл бұрын

Oh please, man's world, really? Where's that, I'd like to visit it sometime. Is that an alternate reality where the men got to go on the lifeboats when the titanic sank?

@windstorm1000

6 ай бұрын

​@@McMahonHaterlol

@McMahonHater

6 ай бұрын

@@windstorm1000 👍

I like them both and refuse to take sides.

What wasn't mentioned here is that Bette looked down upon any actor/actress who did not attend acting school or had more of a classical background. Bette considered Joan an amateur as she had no formal training and came from a lower class background. In Baby Jane, Bette spend a lot of time on set with Victor Buono, whom she considered a proper actor because he was a member of the Globe Theater Players and had done a lot of Shakespearean characters. So that must have added fuel to the fire.

@0789faraday1

3 жыл бұрын

As much as I love BD I have to agree with you.. bette was very snobby

@vintageman91

2 жыл бұрын

But Bette did not come from a high class background.

@Cissy2cute

2 жыл бұрын

@@vintageman91 But much better than Joan. Poor Joan (Lucille LeSueur-I've always thought that a pretty name for an actress but apparently others didn't) had a very dysfunctional early life including alleged sexual abuse by a stepfather. I admire Crawford over Davis although Bette produced many memorable performances because Joan's toughness inspires me. She was the working girls' heroine back in the day.

@RaymondHng

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cissy2cute Hence, Davis considered herself an actor and Crawford a movie star.

@kcirtapelyk6060

2 жыл бұрын

And yet Joan’s movies have overall aged better than Bette’s. As much as I like Bette, her acting style was a little hammy at times and a bit dated. Joan’s acting style in my opinion was a lot more natural.

Although these two actresses hated each other, both were in their twilight years. And the irony is that it was this movie that resurrected both careers for a brief period to a new generation of movie goers. I'm not sure, but I think the studio wanted to do a sequel with the same actresses but it didn't panned out. Too bad.

@ageofvintage2106

3 жыл бұрын

Although these two amazingly talented actresses hated each other, they had such a strong connection...a unique one.

@Dimeropepe

3 жыл бұрын

@@ageofvintage2106 Thank you.

@Garsons-oq4lh

2 жыл бұрын

@@ageofvintage2106 If anyone was hateful it was Bette not Joan but then if you knew anything about Joan you would've known that and not uploaded this video with a stupid title and things like Joan slept her way to the top.

@loe3175

Жыл бұрын

They wanted to to a hagsplotation follow-up with the two in Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte. After much strife, a probable fake illness and hospitalization with Crawford, and a subsequent lawsuit, Crawford's role was recast with Olivia de Haveland.

@creativewriter3887

Жыл бұрын

@@Garsons-oq4lh Yeah.. I caught that too.. Joan didn't sleep her way to the top. She was a hard working Silent Film actress and let's face it, one of the few who would successfully make the transition from silent films to the "Talkies". She even said she just had to go for it and hired a vocal coach to help make that transition (as those actors and actresses had that "Transatlantic" accent). She was also re-branded as "Joan Crawford" and stylized herself into the glamorous actress she wanted to become.

I'm a fan of Joan's..Mildred Pierce is on my dvd

I personally don't think they did hate each other , it made for great gossip , the publicity depts. worked overtime manufacturing stories to hold the public interest and 99% was just fodder

@kcirtapelyk6060

2 жыл бұрын

Your might be right. Even if they weren’t particularly friends, Bette admitted that she respected Joan for her professionalism and felt sorry for her when Mommie Dearest was published. If Bette hated anyone, it was Faye Dunaway and Miriam Hopkins. Now those were REAL Hollywood feuds.

Joan 💜

@ageofvintage2106

3 жыл бұрын

🙂

Thinking of the variety of roles Bette played, I'd say she was the much better actress. She had a wider range of acting skills. She wasn't afraid to tackle meaty roles.

Team Bette Davis. She was a better actress and seems to have had a better personality. Joan Crawford was an abusive parent

@harperstacey9604

3 жыл бұрын

How do you know that Joan Crawford was an abusive parent? Were you there when she beat her kids?

I've met a few people that inexplicably hated me over the years and no how much i tried to like them, I couldn't do it.

Most celebrities that "Sleep their Way to the Top," need a lot more to stay .

Best Movie trivia and history on You Tube! This one was my favorite! Thanks.

For me Bette Davis number one Forever, beautiful woman

@diaznelly686

2 жыл бұрын

Bette Davis top up!

Joan Crawford was always my favorite

They went after each other face to face like the entire world did. Unlike today when nameless cowards and the world's losers scream on social media and try to get people canceled and destroy them.

I like your videos even tho you tend to draw out your story with tangents and repetition !

@Coucoutchicou

2 жыл бұрын

Talk of repetition...You said it!

I think the rivalry was blow out of proportion by the studios and these women were insecure enough to play into the studios hands. So....neither of them won...only the studios

Bette fan here, however, Joan had her moments. But Bette was willing to dump glamour, I.e. The Catered Affair, a prime example. Joan always had to look good. Also in interviews Joan had a phony resonance to her, like she was playing a part in front of the camera. In contrast Bette was down to earth and real. JMO

@misspudding12

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, that is what. Made Bette a better actress, she could play anything, Joan had to always be glam

@sel3248

3 жыл бұрын

@@misspudding12 Except she wasn't always glamorous in her roles. Like. . Strange Cargo , Possessed , A woman's face & Rain. To name a few.

I wondered about this feud between these two, and I concluded they bumped heads, because they were equally matched, in acting skills. But I do see a slight difference in Joan Crawford being better, because no one can bring the drama better than her. And I just love how she kept that elegance, about herself. But yet still Betti Davis had such a free spirit in acting, more natural, less scripted. So there was an undisputed sharpness, and originality about her work. Which puts me right back to their both having equal footage in acting, it's just what one did a little bit more than the other, at times that made it hard to pick who was best.

First the record, I have and will forever be team BETTE!!!!

@oliviamerlos626

3 жыл бұрын

Me too, I like Joan too but I'm team Bette ...love her !!! I can watch her movies over and over, Joan is too overacting for my taste...

@misspudding12

2 жыл бұрын

@@oliviamerlos626 mines 2 Olivia...I do like Joan's movies, but Bette 2 me was better, because she did not mind getting ugly...

@Sglennon100

2 жыл бұрын

Me too

A battle of opposites. A theater trained actress who made it on talent, and one who rose through the ranks in Hollywood based on looks, and who she slept with.

@joicheri6206

6 ай бұрын

Which one of them came from theater?

@Dave-cv1th

6 ай бұрын

Miss Bette Davis started out in a small theatrical company, and within a year made it to Broadway. When she reached Hollywood, it took years to get out of small parts and finally make it to stardom.

I love them both too and Would love a historical rewrite where they are friends but maybe their performances in Baby Jane are so incredibly scary and heart breaking because of their animosity. I do believe at heart They really were kindred spirits. Oh, and you have some great photos I've never seen!

For the record, I have and always will be TeamJoan all the way!!!! ❤️❤️❤️

@tammywebb1289

3 жыл бұрын

Me too! Joan was much more glamorous, sophisticated and prettier than Bette!!

@vinnieviddivicci5459

3 жыл бұрын

Davis was a better actress.

@bunnyoneful

3 жыл бұрын

Team Bette here!

@kjgammon1658

3 жыл бұрын

@@vinnieviddivicci5459 Not necessarily. A lot of Bette Davis's acting now , at times, looks very stylized, stagy, and old-fashioned... often worse towards the end of her career. While Joan Crawford's was though at times s t a g y earlier in her career, seemed to become much more natural as time went on...

@vinnieviddivicci5459

3 жыл бұрын

@@kjgammon1658 - I'll admit that Davis became almost a self-parody and gave some lousy performances towards the end. But so did Crawford: Trog, Beserk, Straight Jacket?

I'll always be Team Joan💌

@zipperblues6714

3 жыл бұрын

Um you must've never seen Mommy Dearest.....smh

@itsclairehuee

2 жыл бұрын

@@zipperblues6714 and you actually believe on Mommy Dearest and somehow a story of an ungrateful adopted daughter putting Joan into a bad image lol. Joan showed love to her children and somehow just because Christina cannot get what is hers... turning her mother into a bad form.

@zipperblues6714

2 жыл бұрын

@@itsclairehuee you're stupid. There was evidence.

@karenwallace9156

2 жыл бұрын

@@itsclairehuee IF CRAWFORD WAS SOME WHAT STRICT, SO WHAT. IT WAS ABOUT THE NORM. I BELIEVE CHRISTINA WAS A LITTLE ENVIOUS OF JOAN. PLUS, SHE WAS HOMELY UNGRAT💸EFUL FABRICATER. "BASED" ON A TRUE STORY. JOAN COULDN'T EVEN HERSELF.💀🥀 ANYWAY TO MAKE A🎥& 💸🎭👀

@karenwallace9156

2 жыл бұрын

@@zipperblues6714 REALLY? 🕵 WE'RE YOU A WITNESS? SIOP THE NONSENSE. BESIDES, WHO CARES. 🤷 PROVE IT. SHE SHOULD OF TOLD SOME ONE ABOUT IT. ITS THIS MILLENNIUM GENERATION THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCIPLINED SEVERLY. STARTING WITH THE CELLS 🤳💻📱🍕🍔🍩🍨🍰& THIER GARBAGE JUNK THEY CONSUME. THEN THEY SAY IM TOO FAT! NO SHIT SHERLOCK. WELL.. THAT'S ALSO ABUSE! THE PARENTS ALLOW IT. " ONE BIG" 🐷 HAPPY HOUSEHOLD? POOR CHRISTINE CRAWFORD.💧💧

The reason for the feud was simply because they were both to much alike. It's like they were twin sisters in a sort of way. Mrs. Crawford's birthday was March 23 and Mrs. Davis birthday was April 5 they were both (Aries). Thats why they were so jealous of each other. Example: My son is a Leo and so is his dad and they both bump heads alot. They are to much alike. Sometimes trying to figure out the hardest thing can sometimes be the easiest thing. I bust this wide open.😁😁😁😁

@Cissy2cute

3 жыл бұрын

I don't believe in astrology. Bette looked down upon Joan because of her working class background and that she never went to some high class acting school.

@stephaniefox896

3 жыл бұрын

Astrology is a joke I’m a cancer and my husband is an aquarius and we are supposed to not get along I have married for 15 year’s

@jennaejones5285

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephaniefox896 Hello, my daughter is a cancer and very nurturing and loving but she is also very negative about a lot of things. Such as knowing the ending to a very big project you've been working on and looking forward to it working out in your favor. She's the one to tell you that you're waiting to be told that your project was unfortunately lost. Sorry. My daughter told me she is this way because she already knows that the answer is no so she prepares herself so she doesn't get her feelings hurt. See when 2 signs are not compatible you make it work because you're in the relationship for a reason. It could be gain, security, loneliness, or fear of not finding someone else. Aquarius is the water barrier which pours the water. Cancers be in water which soothes them. Aquarius has a lot of patience and believe me you need that with a cancer. Thats why it probably works.

@jennaejones5285

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cissy2cute Possible but the disdain was because they were to much alike. Aries.

@stephaniefox896

3 жыл бұрын

@@jennaejones5285 I did not need a hole story from you

2 Legends 😁

@ageofvintage2106

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. :)

Both are good but Bette is definitely the better actress.

@harperstacey9604

3 жыл бұрын

No. Joan is the better actress.

@kcirtapelyk6060

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree! I like Bette, but her acting style at times was a bit hammy and dated. Joan’s acting style in my opinion was much more natural and her films have overall aged better.

@ThisGuy65842

11 ай бұрын

11 noms for BD and 3 for JC....Hollywood has decided 😂😂😂

@markturner4301

7 ай бұрын

Joan is more modern bette Davis was playing herself over the top exaggerated willing to make her self an ugly old hag x

Because they love each other!

They were both really messed up. They deserve each other.

They both Aries , divas , angry women driving by ambitious and jealousy .

@thebarky1988

3 жыл бұрын

They were two women making it in a man’s world.

@scotnick59

3 жыл бұрын

Joan was drop-dead gorgeous in the thirties whereas plain Bette was the finer actress; it was her acting that Joan admired most about Davis. Imagine Crawford playing Miss Moffatt or Queen Elizabeth I of England? She'd have been laughed off the screen. Davis did remark, however: "Boy, did that dame have a face". Crawford was already an established star in 1931, the year Bette made her film debut in a potboiler called "Bad Sister". Watching Davis in this silly melodrama, one could never guess she'd be the winner of two Oscars and by 1939 would be the Queen of Hollywood...

@albertcarello5489

3 жыл бұрын

Youmna Wehesh:: Women this sign are full of fire!!!!!!!

There was definitely professional jealousy between Bette and Joan, especially when the both ended up at Warner Brothers

Bette Davis and Joan Crawford were quite talented as actresses may they both rest in peace.

@harperstacey9604

3 жыл бұрын

Both of them were Aries.

Cat fights between women have been around for ever.

@graphiquejack

2 жыл бұрын

And war is men being BFFs?

Bette Davis was not just the Queen of Warner Bros. She was, IS, the best screen actress of all time! Bette could portray a dastardly psychopath and you'd STILL love her! Joan wound up in "Trog," a real embarrassment.

Ive always been a Ms Davis fan, dont ask me why but shes always resonated with me.. Where as Ms Crawford (even though she has a simalar appearance to my paternal grandmother now that I look at her fotos shes when she was younger) she has never resonated with me. But I loved my gran very much.

Bette Davis.💖 She's got Bette Davis eyes -- them eyes she's just got a better repertoire of great movies.

They both had very full lives. Doubtful one ever gave the other much of a thought.

Let the past be the past these too have been dead for over 30 years now. I just don't understand these feuds at all over a man. Move on no man is worth fighting over for

@Seabasstien

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, no mister will come between me and my sister!!

@dannagraves7131

2 жыл бұрын

The fact people are still interested in their relationship is an amazing tribute to both of them!!

Bette Davis I think,,,,, if I had to pick 👍👍💙👊😎🔥😘zane

Bette Davis. *Hands down!!!*

Edited... Actually... It really starts at 1:40 but isn't accurate. The start was in 1933 not 1935. Probably best to get the info elsewhere. Skip to 1:05 to skip the title being said over and over again. :)

Team Bette!!!!!💓💓💓💓💓

I LOVE them both

I VERY much enjoy your content. I do however, wish that you could do a timeline or sequence in order of event happening. It feels like we’re sort of all over the place. And then often the pics don’t line up with what your saying and I get a little mixed up. But again, I am enjoying the videos. Can’t get enough of the old stuff.

When Mommy Dearest came out, Bette Davis publicly spoke _in defense_ of Joan Crawford. That should say everything about the authenticity of the book.

I love Betty Davis, great actress. Joan Crawford not so much.

Bette Davis is the side Im choosing...Bette Davis NEVER beat her children

Joan Crawford had "slept her way to the top"? What a scurrilous insult to a wonderful actress, where is your proof? I find this accusation offensive and groundless.

@freddieblue6351

Жыл бұрын

It is true and she did porn…look it up.

Hi Age of Vintage, WOW another fabulous story of Bette Davis and Joan Crawford. It was no secret in Hollywood that these two actresses just couldn't get a long. They fought over movies, men, & just who was the most popular actress between them. Apparently it was no secret Joan Crawford loved the men but she had quite a penchant for the ladies as well. It was rumoured that Joan actually had a secret crush on Bette & had fallings out with the press that it wasn't true. They both played a brilliant part in "What ever Happened to Baby Jane " certainly a Hollywood great. I do think there was probably more to their story, however neither of them wanted to not be considered for a role, so they pushed each other just far enough. They did argue & fight over many male film stars. Love Love from Australia 🇦🇺💛💛❤❤💜💜💖💖🎬📽🔪⚘⚘💋

@ageofvintage2106

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like, you know everything about Hollywood! 🙂 Thank you for your comment Ruth! ❤️

@ruthlawrence8046

3 жыл бұрын

@@ageofvintage2106 Thankyou for acknowledging my comment, you are just the best love Ruth 💋💋💋

Davis!

wicked witch of the north vs wicked witch of the west. Could only lead to friction...

Yes. It builds ..the vitriol.

Excellent video! I always tended to like Bette a bit more than Joan, but they were both great actresses! ❤️ Bette seemed to have more of a fire in her performances.

I'm a Joan fan. The issue regarding Franchot Tone always intrigued me because Joan had already been involved with Tone & made two films with him prior to him working with Bette. How did Bette not know Joan's history with the man when Joan was the biggest female of that time? Joan & Franchot had starred in Dancing Lady & Sadie McKee by the time he worked with Bette. To be perfectly honest the whole feud was Bette's doing. She was jealous of Crawford. From the beginning in the 30's Davis was jealous of the attention & leading men because Joan was the bigger star. Bette felt superior to Joan because as she put it, "I'm an actress. Joan's a movie star." Later in life Bette even admitted she wished she'd been, "half as beautiful" as Joan when asked about Crawford. I don't think there were ever any ill feelings on Joan's part toward Bette until Bette initiated the whole thing. I'm not fond of Davis. She makes Baby Jane unwatchable for me with her overacting and shrill voice. I only watch because of Joan.

@oliviamerlos626

3 жыл бұрын

I have read that Bette was jealous of Joan because she felt that she was not as beautiful AND Joan was jealous of Bette because she was insecure about her poor background. But the feud was not all Bette's doing, and anyways was there an actual feud or was it more a making by the men controlling the studios???

@garymazzeo3490

2 жыл бұрын

Who the hell would fight over Francot Tone?

@karenwallace9156

2 жыл бұрын

@@garymazzeo3490 REALLY.😁 COULDN'T ACT. ALWAYS LOOKED ANGRY, & I DON'T SEE HIM AS HANDSOME? I WONDER WHAT IT WAS? 🤔

@HOHNancy

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn't believe they would fight over a man. 😂

@genellecoley836

3 ай бұрын

But who was nominated for the Oscar?????

I choose Bette Davis over Crawford anyday,

I am on the TRUTH’S SIDE🎉🕊♥️

Personally, I think BOTH actresses don't think they were good enough in their line of work so as result, they both saw each other as a threat for qualities they lacked. Something I think Ryan Murphy nailed perfectly in ''Feud'' during the scene where they both clashed over each other's flaws and qualities.

That's sad Joan couldn't get nominated. She had to accept for others

@harperstacey9604

3 жыл бұрын

Joan won the best actress award in 1945 for the movie, Mildred Pierce.

@karenwallace9156

2 жыл бұрын

SHE ACCEPTED ANN BANCROFTS. AND KEPT IT FOR A WHOLE YEAR! WHAT A WACKO, MAN. 🕸🕷

Bette Davis.

Both of them should have worked with each from the start, then they probably would have grown into liking and respecting each other. I imagine Bette and Joan working together from the time when they were young that it would draw a lot of viewers attention. Especially if they were to work against each other.

Professional jealousy. Both did similar roles, both were competitive over their careers, I suspect. Other than that it suited the film studios and the press for people like this to supposedly hate each other. Seems a few men got into the act as well.

@petertaylor3600

3 жыл бұрын

Let's face it, both unpleasant bitches, both top actresses.

Joan didnt stand a chance with Hurricane Bette during baby jane. . But joan was tough too and a survivor and she just side maneuvered bette at 1963 academy awards to accept the awardsfor anybody who couldnt be there. Bette. Never forgave her for this insult, which is what it was

Both had ESTJ bossy to the max mbti personalities. They are the kind of women that can bite the head off of a nail. They have a super dominating personality. They will rule you and everyone else around them. Whether you want them to or not. They enjoy crushing people under their heels. Watching 2 women like this go after each other is like going to a monster truck rally, you don't know who is going to win, but it doesn't matter...you know it's going to be an exciting show.

Both, gold on screen, but I would imagine very difficult women, not really ideal mothers, they have to be first, and its hard when people get in their way!!!!! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

@petertaylor3600

3 жыл бұрын

Terrible mothers.

@karenwallace9156

2 жыл бұрын

THEN I GUESS I WORKING MOTHERS ARE TERRIBLE.? IS THAT UR POINT? THAT MUST INCLUDE YOUR MOTHER TOO. OTHERWISE,, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE MADE THAT COMMENT. & IT'S ONE OF 2 THINGS. YR MOTHER IS DECEASED,, OR ALIVE, AND YOU BOTH AREN'T COMMUNICATING. SORRY. NOT TO JUDGE YOU. BUT IF THIS IS TRUE, TRY TO MAKE IT WORK. 🌹EVEN 1 ROSE IS A START. SHE GAVE U LIFE. BUT NOT YR DECISIONS ON YR LIFE. ✌💥🌈

I love Bette Davis

"Supposedly" Bette once confided to Joan that she never celebrated Christmas as a child, which Joan immediately responded, "That's because Jesus wasn't born yet" !

@darnellmajor8895

Жыл бұрын

hahahahahahaha WOW!!!!

I turned off the video when it got to the part that said "Joan slept her way to the top" what a shit thing to say. Ive never watched one movie of hers over and over like I have because of who I thought she slept with.

They didn't hate each other!

Geez, get to the story already. Still nothing after almost 2mins.....I'm outta here

@tonynegron1927

3 жыл бұрын

😂 Me too! He kept repeating the name's JC & BD way too much.

@funguykel

3 жыл бұрын

I gave up at 3 minutes.

Actually they could of been good friends, but they were too much a like. They were jealous of each and I don't think they were even aware of it. Being Top Stars wasn't enough. Each wanted it all, and when your so much alike, there comes an expolsion.

Joan Crawford took care of Franchot Tone after he got sick & before he died. She took him into her home & cared for him.

@karenwallace9156

2 жыл бұрын

SO WHAT. PEOPLE DO THAT ANIMALS.🐷

@nadezhdawall-rossi2864

2 жыл бұрын

Too bad she didn't care for the children she bought from Georgia Tan!

I love Bette Davis. She is my all time fav actress. Starting to appreciate Joan Crawford’s acting. In life no one is going to like everyone. Sometimes unfortunately others pick and choose sides and keep the BS going. I am sure some of the reason there was so much disdain about how these ladies felt about each other was because Hollywood gossips probably pit them against each other always trying to compare them to each other. Making statements like Joan was prettier or Betty was the better actress etc... of course that fueled the feud. But whatever it was they are both considered great actresses and had lots of actresses look up to them. I personally don’t understand why Joan disliked Bette but I can Understand by some of what I heard why Bette had issues with Joan. Either way at the end of the day they have both left us with great movies to enjoy.

Davis always struck me as real. What you see is what you get. Joan struck me as a pretentious phony . She lacked any kind of sincerity. It seemed to be all about image for Joan.

Franchot Tone was the biggest reason why Bette hated Joan so much.

They both had earlier feuds that were probably more important to them. For Bette, it was with Miriam Hopkins and for Joan, Norma Shearer.

Was it because they were both in love with the same man? Always be Team Joan

I think the question is…….who did Bette Davis like?

@nadezhdawall-rossi2864

2 жыл бұрын

George Brent, Claude Rains, Betty Lynn, et al.

Joan Crawford did not "sleep her way to the top" She was hardworking and strove to do her best by taking advantage of the classes and voice training offered by MGM. Both Silent Hollywood and Pre-Code Hollywood were scandalous! Joan wasn't doing anything different than anyone else in that milieu over those years. Hollywood was and still is a moral cesspit. The only two differences between then and now is: (1) The Studio System no longer exists (Mores the pity for young actors and actresses -- The used to get lessons regarding how to dress elegantly and how to behave in public) and (2) What was once considered "deviant" (post-Code and throughout the 1950's and 1960's) behavior is now in the open. imho: Even with computers, CGI, etc., the films have not improved!

Petty and Messy....wow really?

They were both mean ole things.

BETTE was Always the more petty & jealous one. Do proper research.

i think joan made a pass at Betty and she hated it!!! lol

@scotnick59

3 жыл бұрын

There was a bit more to their "feud" than that.

@harperstacey9604

3 жыл бұрын

Joan Crawford stole franchot tone from Bette Davis.

@helenthorpe1494

2 жыл бұрын

No, she did not. Joan and Franchot were already an item when Bette came on the scene.

omg. Hillarious!

I am here because i'm curious to know about them. I just read the article about "Zodiac Signs Who Are Mortal Enemies" 😂 And i found out that both Aries are mortal enemies.

Joan was at Warner Bros from 1943 to 1952.

Bette 😍

I don't know, but everyone is as they are, one cannot change that, but I have always found Mrs. Crawford's personality much more interesting than Mrs. Davis, not only as a person but also as an actress. I have always disliked Mrs.Davis's way of being extremely arrogant, pretentious, always with that feeling of superiority.

In my opinion Joan was the winner in the looks department & Bette was arguably the better actress... ...but I bet they were both self-obsessed "Prima Donnas!"

@mariaevans7811

3 жыл бұрын

True!!!!! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

@misspudding12

3 жыл бұрын

Not to me, her face was too hard

@Seabasstien

3 жыл бұрын

Both awesome actresses with Bette Davis being better than anybody of her era including Kate Hepburn

@vintageman91

2 жыл бұрын

I dont know that mutch about Joan, but i have heard several times that Bette could be hard to deal with , having a bad temper and all that but she facsinates me, her Charisma and acting was very good and for me personally she was the better looking, more feminine face.

@louisgonzalez8846

2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful jaw line, perfect.for pictures. B.D. not so striking.

Both Aries they would have been a power house together .

Also Betty turned down the role of Mildred Pierce and Joan won an academy award and they said Betty was mad and blamed the studio for her not getting that part

@zacblake9249

3 жыл бұрын

Bette turned down that part because she didn't want to work with Michael Curtiz again. Also, she felt the mother was too weak, and under no circumstances would she tolerate the behavior that the daughter (Veda) displayed. Bette wasn't the only one -- several actresses, among them Ann Sheridan and Rosalind Russel, turned down the part. The role she did regret not playing was the one that Crawford played in Possessed (1947).

@stephaniefox896

3 жыл бұрын

@@zacblake9249 yes she turned the role down but when Joan won the academy award she got mad and blamed the studio president for letting her turn the role down, said that they should had told her this was academy gold

I think Bette was very pretty at her prime, even prettier than Joan, Joan definitely aged like fine wine!

Louis B Mayer and Jack Warner made more money from this nonsense than these two iconic actresses ever did.

Crawford was a movie stars ehi became a great actress bette was a great actress who became a movie star.

I too don't have the impression they truly hated each other. I think they disliked each other, although Joan truly did admire Bette as an actress. I don't think Bette took Joan seriously enough to 'hate' her, no mater how much she poked jokes at her expense. I will say I was shocked that in This N' That--which was largely written as a rebuttal to B.D.'s My Mother's Keeper--Bette STILL voiced support for Christina Crawford and Mommy Dearest. I was actually disgusted.

I think that maybe they wasn´t good friends but i don´t think they hated eachother. They weren´t good friends but i don´t think they wanted to kill or seriously hurt etchother, maybe not be in the same room if they didn´t have to.