Props to Mikel for not pretending he knew Bruyne would be a star

@Captain.Philip

4 ай бұрын

You don't understand English

@spoonwithsander

4 ай бұрын

What do you think I wrote? ​@@Captain.Philip

@adewilyan8030

4 ай бұрын

​@@Captain.Philip?

@Captain.Philip

4 ай бұрын

@@spoonwithsander Mikel never thought KDB will be come great has he's now but he said watching him playing football now is lovely

@spoonwithsander

4 ай бұрын

@@Captain.Philip And what did I say? In your own words, please.

That’s why talent is so complex, you never know how talented someone is

@asyrafhanz

4 ай бұрын

No. It hardworking and Journey of KDb life

@gregoriuspascalis500

4 ай бұрын

talent need to be supported in the right environment to bloom at the right time. The culture, language, teammates and player attitude affects their career. Sometimes I laugh when people thought that X players that we missed on the transfer window do well on the other team. Just because they do well on the other team doesn't mean the player would do well on our team

@greybo4034

4 ай бұрын

​@@asyrafhanz you are just another type of person that would say ronaldo reached because of hardwork not mentioning about his talent.. just another cliche tiktok watcher

@xinanipoh

4 ай бұрын

​@@greybo4034it is not what he mean by that...with talent without sacrifice yourself for changing your mentality,behaviour,working harder...you will be still a rubbish. We always saw that before...so many great player didnt reach the maximum of his real potential and capability.

@zeze4605

4 ай бұрын

This is such a brilliant comment 👌

Jon Obi Mikel is an underrated podcast host he has great insights

@XandahmanXL

4 ай бұрын

I agree but he’s lying when he said he didn’t see the talent that might be. Even at Genk you could clearly see this guy was a genius. He was always going to be world class. Mourinho stood in the way of his (and Salah) development.

@livinusokoz306

4 ай бұрын

@@XandahmanXLNo, I don’t think so. Even JT said he’s amazed at the kind of elite levels he has attained. He had potential but didn’t really have the makings of a world class player whilst at Chelsea

@lewislibre

4 ай бұрын

@@XandahmanXL I think he means talent that arguably makes him the best playmaker in PL history

Talent and skill doesn’t make you a pro. Attitude, work ethic and focus + Talent and skill makes you a pro.

@computermun

4 ай бұрын

I would add also some luck

The last line hits hard when he says "I don't know what happened there". People notice the end results but not the hard work to get there. No doubt he went thru a lot of physical and mental hard work. Well never know exactly what he went thru

I'm happy that I'm watching De Bruyne football live. He is one of the greatest of all time.

Every football fan knows that switch to Wolfsburg changed KDB whole career

I thought Van Ginkel was going to be better. But yeah KDB shocked me

Mikel taking about him like a proud family member. Shows what a spirit the Chelsea camp was like back then.

@boook4145

4 ай бұрын

Bro what are you talking about. Literally jus made that up in your head 😂

@jorgerivera2198

4 ай бұрын

@@boook4145 😂 me or Mikel 😂

@boook4145

4 ай бұрын

Nothing gave off “proud family member” all he did was state the obvious that KDB is currently a world class player. And you tried to use that do dickride Chelsea camp like what bro 😂

@virtualcity721

4 ай бұрын

​@@jorgerivera2198you, the Chelsea camp was vicious. It was eat or be eaten. Even Salah didn't stand a chance

@jorgerivera2198

4 ай бұрын

@@virtualcity721 no I agree, that is a spirit in itself. It was fierce I get that.

The right team n the right support n right attitude n right time n God willing you will shine

Heartbreak made him who he is. He showed the world and made him proud. ❤

I saw Salah being decent but not to the level he is. I didn’t think much of KDB at all.

@josephcole8046

4 ай бұрын

I was the other way around, Salah looked terrible to me. At the time Chelsea actually sold him in 2016, we had just had the worst season of the Abramovich era and he’d had a decent season in loan scoring 14 league goals, but I don’t know anybody who did anything but shrug when we sold him.

@benjaminmee3751

4 ай бұрын

@@josephcole8046 I shrugged when they sold him because Chelsea had a good squad and I didn’t think they needed him. but when he played, I thought he was a decent prospect.

@josephcole8046

4 ай бұрын

@@benjaminmee3751 He was great against us for Basel a few times

@benjaminmee3751

4 ай бұрын

@@josephcole8046 he was. Tbh, I was more shocked that Liverpool went in for him. At that time, I wasn’t paying a lot of attention for him and I thought he’d flop. Being totally honest as well because I could say, “I knew he’d be amazing for Liverpool” and you’d never know.

@grovegreen123

4 ай бұрын

Agreed salah was abit of just a speed merchant! KDB started against Hull with hazard and mata and was unbelievable. It seems like a personality clash with mourinho

Jon Obi Mikel is brilliant in these interviews.

That last skill was bliss

This is not only excellent advice for the game but for life. Never knew JOB was such an insightful dude. Props!

KDB is an established EPL Legend at this point

@wseverywhere1279

3 ай бұрын

He is possibly gonna retire as the best EPL player of all time.

Some people would have said "absolutely, i knew he was going to be great"

Shoutout to the editor of this video, nice job

This is the type of honesty we want from you when you talk about Messi too.

@adeshinaademola3429

4 ай бұрын

You mean your own lies? He said what he said, go sob it off, crynaldo fan

@legacyasagba4133

4 ай бұрын

And because his view does not align with yours, you feel he is dishonest. 😅😅😅😅😅

@pearsonmudzingwa597

4 ай бұрын

Messi was a star at 17. He destroyed Del Horno at Stamford Bridge & left him for d£ad.

@lovemorerwodzi8979

4 ай бұрын

Messi is the GOAT period

@Fuck_Varcadog

4 ай бұрын

​@@pearsonmudzingwa597muller father of pessi

In the clips , you can see that he was looking for people to pass to, and his teammates couldn't keep up with his thought process. He did the right thing because Chelsea's playstyle didn't suit him, he needs players to make the runs for him. Man was always talented.

@myownlilbubble

4 ай бұрын

Spot on...he looked lost tbh when he played in Chelsea.....that was what I thought. Salah.said something about KDB....that KDB would know where to look for him whe Salah was asked on which PL player he wished he could play with.....and Salah and KDB never play together in Chelsea...only in training. They both developed elsewhere...Chelsea is not the place to develop.

@NovaDaGoat

4 ай бұрын

@@myownlilbubbleMason Mount and Reece James say otherwise. Even if Mason Mount was never and will never have the potential Salah or KDB had he helped us win the CL

@bossabaroque1914

4 ай бұрын

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the heartbreak is what made him, 2014 at wolfsburg is when the courtois and de bruyne beef began.

This shows talent doesn't just come and go, you have to do the hard work. Kdb shows the effort of a journey.❤

I don't understand how these players were unable to see de bruyne's potential back then. I guess it's not every one who plays football, really understands football. I mean, I watched chelsea's first game of the season (probably against Stoke City or something) in the 2013/14 season or so, where Mourinho played Hazard, oscar, de bruyne, and I remember thinking, this guy (de bruyne) is probably the best player on the pitch. His incisive passing, movement, vision, everything was spot on. Wondered why he wasn't playing much after. Even mourinho said that he could see his potential but just couldn't manage him because he always wanted to play.

@myownlilbubble

4 ай бұрын

KDB and Salah looked lost and sloppy. Not their fault...Chelsea was stacked! Serie A helped shaped Salah technical wise. Salah could get away with his speed in Basel in the Swiss league....but not in PL.. ...Serie A..Florentina and then AS Roma..and Totti mentored him to make better decisions. BL helped KDB change his attitude and mindset.

@fluxfootball3684

4 ай бұрын

Exactly my thought. Maybe Mikel (for an amazing defensive midfielder he was) does not have an eye for talent. First time I watched de Bruyne was at Bremen against Bayern in 6:1 loss in 2012-13. He was even in that game was evidently far better than his Werder teammates and on level with the Bayern players. Bremen were thrashed but de Bruyne scored his goal on his own. Of course, I don't watch Premier League so I can't say how good he was at Chelsea but if he was at the similar level to Bayern's treble winning squad of 2012-13 season which thrashed Barca 7:0, I can't believe Mikel couldn't see his talent.

@diligenceeke3023

3 ай бұрын

​@@fluxfootball3684 If both of you were that smart (which I fully doubt) you'd have been the ones coaching and not making noise on youtube.

@fluxfootball3684

3 ай бұрын

@@diligenceeke3023 yet you come here name-calling without a single argument. Coaches make mistakes and it doesn't take a genius to point it out in hindsight. Anyway looking at your comments on the post, I can see why you are projecting your lack brain on others.

@Ricky-yf1ru

2 ай бұрын

Ugh don't claim to be this super scout. John Terry and Jose, who have forgotten more than you will ever know about football, were surprised by his evolution. KDB becoming the player he became doesn't mean Jose and Terry were wrong. He WASN'T good enough to be picked ahead of guys like Lampard AT THE TIME. KDB obviously worked hard to become the player he is now.

Goes to show that nobody really can tell you who you meant to be and if you destined to make it you will despite your surrounding. Thats in a aspects of competition not just football

Totally understand that moodiness he’s talking about especially when you know they’re not going to play you. There’s no zeal and especially when you’re in a team where you’re not happy to be in.

Mikel it's not that De Bruyne wasn't performing it's just that he wasn't playing in a correct system suited to his game.Chelsea was never a possession based team.

sometimes people forget that if you're on the big club then you're expected to perform consistently week in week out or else you won't there long enough because they're on WIN NOW mode .. off course miss out caliber player like Salah or KDB are are huge loss but back then we never know they could be this great either and if they stay on Chelsea they probably wouldn't become the player they are right now. because the playing time are most important if you're young talented player to polish your skill and at that time chelsea can't give that.

John Terry said he was most surprising by KDB in later years, compared to Salah and Lukaku. He obviously worked his balls off to improve as much as he did.

That is called “Confidence” my friend! As soon as went to Wolfsburg, he felt “Wanted” and when you feel “wanted” then you can let your hair down and be yourself…. At Chelsea so young, he wasn’t ready … it’s as simple as that

Very true. Mikel just said it all. Nobody expected DeBruyne to be what he is now

I think players have more freedom to play how they want to in Germany and that's how they become the skilled talents that other countries' clubs sign them for

It started in Bremen and not Wolfsburg. Dortmund wanted to buy him after his loan season in Bremen.

Best midfield now

Well kdb either like it or not but is a fact Mourinho gave him a lesson. No matter how good you are but if you not doing your best you are nothing. , because everyone want to play and its not fair to everybody in the team when you make someone because of your liking but did not perform well. Its about mentality. Later Mou himself said he know the potential of kdb and do not want him to go but to be patience try harder wait for his chance. Kdb can not accept that and want to leave so mou let him go... And kdb on wolfsburg change a lot the way he is playing - attitude also the eager to prove something.. So it is what it is... Thx u

@4evermarx

4 ай бұрын

I remember kdb talking about not getting chance at chelsea. KDB explained that chelsea thought he was still too young but KDB didnt buy that because Hazard was the same age and crucial part of the team. Really sad he didnt fit in or had some patientce but kudos to him whatever his attitude was at chelsea, he really improved that in wolfsburg.

Sometimes rejection and disappointment shapes you into a more determined player. It's not a certainty that Salah or De Bruyne would have been stars at Chelsea if they had stayed.

KDB has always shown his talent. Even at Chelsea it was so difficult not to notice him. Raw rash but talented nonetheless.

Kdb not ready at young. He not calm enough for the pressure. German league teach him how to boost their talent. So powerful.

@isahibrahim7414

4 ай бұрын

Chelsea was never the place for a young player trying to come up, they have always preferred already established players to developing ones, the pressure is immense

John Mikel is so so good at this as much as he was with his football

players like de bruyne and salah nobody thought they would blow up like they did especially salah nobody had big expectations for them

Anyone who claims they were sure back then that KDB would turn out as great as he did is an outright liar

I’ll never understand people that cannot fathom how players get fed up of not playing and in thrir oen position. It’s like corporate gas lighting where they just tell the player some shit about it being better for their development and their career goes sideways. The success of the team doesn’t matter if you aren’t in it.

There's an interview with harry redknapp where he talks about the time he took over at QPR and was told that taarabt is rubbish, and how playing him would get the manager sacked! Redknapp went to him and told taarabt that he would be starting the upcoming game! He also told him that if he played badly, he would still start him the next game! And if he played badly in that game, he would still start him in the game after! Moral of the story is, de bruyne needed the tranquility and serenity of mind knowing the manager believed in him, and that he wouldn't be dropped every time he had a bad game! He was moody and was desperate to leave because he knew mourinho wasn't that manager for him, and that he had to go elsewhere to find freedom to express himself!

@diligenceeke3023

3 ай бұрын

Mourinho didn't have the luxury Harry Redknap had. Abramovich sacked a coach without thinking twice. Do you even remember Chelsea of those days? Who would play a kid who was sulking when there were superstars everywhere and Abramovich wielding his big stick?

@recruitmentch

3 ай бұрын

Mourinho has shown at every football club that he doesn't possess the skills to develop young players. He 'succeeds' only by being given developed players. At Roma, he practically ruined zaniolo, and there isn't a single player who truly improved under him. One can point towards cristante who is having a great season, but he was terrific before he moved to Roma. He turned paredes into a water carrying bully who just going around kicking people. Literally every single player has improved since he left. De Bruyne isn't the only victim. @@diligenceeke3023

Was perfect replacement for Lmpard

Have a feeling Mudryk could be the same. Right now he doesn’t even look like a premier league winger. Time will tell if he comes good, and if Chelsea supporters will be patient for him to achieve his potential.

Some players need to feel appreciated! Some players need to feel they're not walking on a plank! You cant send a young kid out there and judge him based on one performance, when the thinking is that if he doesn't perform, then he's out! It cant work like that! De bruyne Must've known that and hence being desperate to leave!

@PED_Fraudiola

3 ай бұрын

Nah kdb was just a crybaby and a quitter when he doesnt have a stacked team

@recruitmentch

3 ай бұрын

So why did he do so well at Wolfsburg, wet wipe?@@PED_Fraudiola

Mourinho didn't play him well he was a different player immediately when he arrived at Wolfsburg

@baconrastas

4 ай бұрын

Happiness was a big factor, at Chelsea he had a doubt whether he would play and this made him behave moodily, when he went to Wolfsberg he knew he was a guaranteed starter and this usually causes a person to knuckle down

A true joy to watch

He's a joy to watch

Not what jose said at all. Jose said he performed but he was young and wanted to ease him in givr him a start here then a sub appearance next game. KDB wanted to play all the time

Brutally honest. 💯

Salah was noticeably a talent in waiting. You can't teach pace like his

KDB went on to be better than anyone who has ever worn a Chelsea jersey. Including the ones he played with. Such is life.

@diligenceeke3023

3 ай бұрын

Better than everyone who wore a Chelsea Jersey? Were you born yesterday? My blood boils when I read comments like yours. Greater players have played for Chelsea. De Bruyne plays for Belgium why didn't he perform those wonders for them at the world cup? My point is that Man City and Guardiola are the biggest reasons for his extraordinary success. It's not down to him alone. For example: Ronaldo left Man U and went to Madrid and performed even better. Messi for all his greatness went to PSG and dropped levels. It simply means Barcelona somehow helpd Messi.

That's why you need to give people a chance to improve themselves. It makes me so mad that we sold players like kdb and mo Salah. I mean look at them today

@diligenceeke3023

3 ай бұрын

You give them a chance at whose expense? If they stayed they may NEVER have become whom they later became. Think deeply about it. Environment matters a lot.

@Ricky-yf1ru

2 ай бұрын

Nonsense. Neither player was good enough AT THE TIME. What they became is irrelevant.

@diligenceeke3023

2 ай бұрын

@@Ricky-yf1ru Facts.

It happened that Mourinho doesn't build players he buys them when they are already top players.

@xStarNxB

4 ай бұрын

Yep..this is right btw

Kdb will go down as the best premier League midfielder ever when he's done

@doge1590

4 ай бұрын

Scholes? Lampard? Gerrard? Fabregas? Yaya?

@GeorgianCountryballOfficial

4 ай бұрын

⁠Henderson

@_KhalifaHag

4 ай бұрын

@@doge1590 yeah what about them?, i said when he's "done" In my opinion he's gonna be better than all of them when he hang the boots and you could argue that but that's what football is about it's opinions and that's my opinion he's more clutch than any of the names you said which they're all legends but so is KDB

@_KhalifaHag

4 ай бұрын

@@GeorgianCountryballOfficial naaaah Henderson is crazy 💀 , he's not even in the top 50

@GeorgianCountryballOfficial

4 ай бұрын

@@_KhalifaHag Enzo Fernandez

Sometimes, being in a team where you can fully enjoy and express yourself without fear of losing your place if you mess up one game, it helps a player develop. He just came to chelsea at the wrong time where they had big names you cannot justify being on the bench. He wasn't at that level, same with Salah

Sometimes you need to give people time and help them.

Sometimes having a point to prove is enough to transform you

Okay... I now forgive Mourinho 🤣🤣🤣

I never liked KDB when he was @ Chelsea, he used to play different from Chelsea style of play

For Werder Bremen best loan ever

Happy birthday Alfie wish you all the best

Sometimes you need a change of atmosphere to get the best out of your self .

He wss good at chelsea they just had too many top players, and he Couldn't get run in the side.

for some players they don't reach their peak level until they've been kicked in the teeth and shown that their true talent level isn't good enough. too bad for chelsea, they had to be the stepping stone that forced de bruyne to get better.

He had a self drive to develop his skill all he wanted was more minutes Same thing is happening to Mudryk but Pochetino prefers Jackson on the wing😂

We all know it was because of what courtois did to him and he didn’t want to play for the same team as him it’s bad enough they had to play for Belgium 🇧🇪 together

Kevin was never going to be successful at Chelsea. He never had the creative freedom he has had in wolfsburg and Manchester City. He transformed himself at wolfsburg. Now he is one of the greatest footballer in premier league history.

There are players , one touch is all u need to know about their ability ..there are others who need time to be nurtured ..

Why is Kevin not a 5 star skill player if he could do the elastico

We can all see that the problem was Chelsea not kdb

He was not moody. that is just the way he is, and that is how he plays.

Chelsea was a toxic place. We all are glad Bruyne & Salah left that filth 👏😅

@joshuaombaka3116

4 ай бұрын

They still went ahead Winning Champions League without them. The filth must be a good one

@yandiarief9667

4 ай бұрын

you're missing the point.

@derrickwekesa4604

4 ай бұрын

​@@joshuaombaka3116salah and kdb have won champions league too as main men in their team.

@joshuaombaka3116

4 ай бұрын

@@derrickwekesa4604 understanding is important that the ability to write. I never said they didn't, I said the Chelsea filth was a good one as they went ahead to win Champions League. Some players will never just do well in some teams. It doesn't matter how good they are. Kaka flopped at Madrid, Sneidjer too, and many more. It doesn't mean Madrid is not a good team to develop, it means at times it is not just working.

.. i’m gonna show you and make you regret it every day of your life…. yeah, you shorted yourself out a real 1 .. and the legend was made

Mourinho never built 1 player

@diligenceeke3023

3 ай бұрын

Yes, says people who started watching football yesterday. Mate, go back in history. Mourinho didn't start coaching at Chelsea!

@adlitchmore

3 ай бұрын

@@diligenceeke3023 He did not!!!!

with this explanation Mudryk will come around one day

Kdb was like a mop in Chelsea, because the squad in Chelsea then are all elite players. so there was no room for mediocre players

If your career start at premier league football it will suck because there no quality of football except HD quality videos, nice camera view , colourful big stadiums and football kits and money

What happened there? He got play time cos that's how you develop😂

Reality is that KDB has incredible numbers and output but he will never be regarded as one the outright best. The best players everyone knows how good they are from the moment the start playing. Everyone at Chelsea thought this guy is a bum luckily he changed his mentality and created himself a great career.

Kdb was the annoying guy whod take the ball from you as you ran toward goal in chelsea career Fifa 13😂

chelsea is just a club where talents gone to waste

Mourinho is good at tactics but he's definitely poor at spotting talent

It's alchemy

What happened there is there were no idiotic brits telling him what to do. As if they have ever had a player like him...

So basically mourinho can't develop players, but will properly utilize and motivate the ones already at top level...🤷‍♂️

If you guys doubt it. Watch the last game of him for chelsea, it was terrible

They're cooking a certain captain Phillips in tne first comment 😅😅😅😅😭😭😭 Dude's just clueless and stubborn

Everyone who saw him play the years before Chelsea now watch a special player he is, but you and Mou were not even looking because German and Belgian football thous not interest you. Every club there wanted him!

Kevin is a moody guy, you have to kid gloves it and if you do that, you’ll get the de Bruyne that everyone knows today. Jose is not a mind reader so you cant entirely blame him but i think he’s said before that in hindsight he should’ve tried to understand him better. In reality, De Bruyne has turned out being a very huge mistake to have made. Imagine a clicking Hazard and De Bruyne for Chelsea, Jose would still be at Chelsea now. De Bruyne is enigmatic, brilliant and highly sensitive.

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This is just one of the reasons he isn't on the level of Gerrard, Lampard or Scholes. He is still a generational player though.

He barely got a chance. Played sporadically which isn’t a gaffer who has faith. Jose doesn’t know how to develop youth

What does all this say about Maurinho as a manager?😮😮

He is literally Lucifer of football. From an fallen angel to becoming the King Of Hell (pl)

this is why Chelsea keep falling and Man City keep rising

CREDIT RIO FERDINAND'S CHANNEL FFS

Well it’s cuz no one trusted him to play make no one would run if u don’t even run his his passsd gonna get to u they just didn’t trust him .

Bullshxt. DeBruyne was performing, just didn't get game time😂

Mourinho raised no young talent!!!