My father grew up in that era, he said a lot of people died, they didn’t have anything to eat and sometimes they ate wild grass, and got food poisoning and there’s no treatment, everyone was so malnourished, and he would immediately tell me that I can’t mention this to anyone in school.

@redfo3009

2 жыл бұрын

Wow he was protecting you but letting you know the truth. Good for him 🙏

@duncancurtis1758

2 жыл бұрын

Dikotter writes peasants ate mud when all the grass ran out.

@mingxuanfan

2 жыл бұрын

@@duncancurtis1758 Geography matters, we are in the northeast region, where the Japanese originally occupied, then Russia invaded, they all wanted that piece of land, the soil is extremely fertile, we were famous for coal mines, there are mountains and rivers the people were living off. Even when I was little, I often went fishing…foraging with my friends for fun, but even we had all of those resources, so many people died. People up north and down south were pretty self-sufficient before the famine so not as much suffering. But people in the mid-China region where these documentaries talk about had the worst case.

@Q_QQ_Q

2 жыл бұрын

@mingxuan fan are you manchurian ?

@cwg9238

2 жыл бұрын

@@hennagaijin7856 "only of the good side of communism" aint seen one yet.

Both my parents lived through this era, and both have consistently summed it up in one simple sentence: "everyone who survived knew at least one person who died."

@jumpingsloth3963

Жыл бұрын

"One person who died directly as a result of the famine". Everybody knows someone who has passed

@uglymolly2138

Жыл бұрын

that gave me chills

@MetalsirenIXI

Жыл бұрын

@@jumpingsloth3963 Context clues were enough to explain what he meant as he mentioned the era brought up in the video.

@nicolasrose3064

Жыл бұрын

So what.

@nicolasrose3064

Жыл бұрын

So what.

I am so thankful my grandfather had the courage to abandon China and send his wife and my 13 year old dad and his little siblings on a ship to Taiwan, and then later join them. They left all their possessions behind and just had the clothes on their back. Because of their bravery, I am freer.

@fun_ghoul

11 ай бұрын

Give China's gold back, scumbag.

@jeffro4kag206

5 ай бұрын

Good Grandpa!

@plumeria66

5 ай бұрын

@@jeffro4kag206 Indeed.

@chinaboss6683

2 ай бұрын

You are not free. You are a defect. 😂

@joeidaho5938

Ай бұрын

Good for you! It's insane how the communist Chinese still revere this absolutely deplorable man.

My grandparents grew up in this era. Grandmother is incredibly short because of it and some of her younger brothers have stomach issues for life because of it. Its as if the starvation never ended for them. Most of my family hordes food now in chest freezers and dry storage because it is now a habit developed out of starvation trauma. Let the younger generation learn from the old...

@MyHandelsMessiah

8 ай бұрын

How many kids in the family? Probably a bunch. Don't have so many kids, won't have a problem.

@yvanthedrakon

8 ай бұрын

@@MyHandelsMessiah very ignorant of you to say. Mao was encouraging for large families at that time as this was after the 2nd World War and a continent spanning civil war. He promised that we would all have enough to eat and enough land to farm unlike under the Qing or the Nationalists. Are you going to blame my great grandparents for not having enough foresight to see bad times ahead under a leader who promised us that we would all at least not starve under his rule?

@Ali-wd9dr

5 ай бұрын

@@MyHandelsMessiahlol shut up. Easy to say now.

@user-uf4rx5ih3v

3 ай бұрын

It's actually the exact opposite of what you're saying. In an agral society, having many kids is actually of huge economic benefit and importance. Not having offsprings was a death sentence.

@mr.fanstastic9010

3 ай бұрын

Chinese people are under bondage through the curse of idolatry

Remember in a communist society, everyone is equal but some are more equal than others

@DominicMazoch

2 жыл бұрын

True. Oink. Oink!

@gwonghouwu786

2 жыл бұрын

I don't admit the current China is a communist country😓

@Dirge4july

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like the same promises in capitalism.

@gwho

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dirge4july not at all

@jefflane1209

2 жыл бұрын

Animal Farm. George Orwell. Awesome book!

I was born in China, 2000, and from my experience growing up and hearing all kinds of stories about the great famine, I got a sense that everybody around me knew what happened, but nobody talked about it in public. Just like the Tiananmen Square Massacre, everybody knew it (and are quite open to private discussions, you will be AMAZED how much they actually know about the event), it was just that nobody talked about it openly.

@MarkMark-xz4ff

Жыл бұрын

Interesting. I always wonder if they talked in private with people they trusted.

@gabrielgaranas

Жыл бұрын

@Chang Liu how do u know who to trust with these matters?

@MarkMark-xz4ff

Жыл бұрын

@@gabrielgaranas very true. But I would think you could discuss it with other friends that complain or grumble about the regime. I know it’s sensitive. I taught a class to a Chinese kid and talked about my life in Taiwan for 15 years. He couldn’t handle facts like they had their own passports, military, currency, democracy, and that he would need a visa if he wanted to visit. He was almost an adult. Dad refused to pay for the lesson. Great country and people being made stupid by terrible leaders.

@gabrielgaranas

Жыл бұрын

@@MarkMark-xz4ff puts into perspective how much the govt controls their people. In the USSR its been said that 1 in 3 people were informants. I imagine it would be much worse in China as its both people and technology looking at you. If stories were told it would be in hushed tones, very private, and with only those you trust the most.

@MarkMark-xz4ff

Жыл бұрын

@@gabrielgaranas Yes. And China was modeled on this. You are right. Mao loved Stalin. Even Stalin told him to cool it and not go so aggressive with reforms but he didn’t listen.

my mom worked with a guy who grew up during the famine and the stories he told her left her in tears in the middle of work. he and his family resorted at times to eating straw, insects, and dirt, and his parents often went days with no food at all just so the kids could have whatever meagre scraps they could find. there was this one specific food (i can't remember which) that was often all they had to eat for months on end that he couldn't even stand the sight or smell of as an adult bc he was so traumatized. it was horrendous to even hear about, so i can't even begin to imagine what these people suffered.

@richardcranium3579

7 ай бұрын

It’s becoming popular again…..eat ze bugs says Herr Klaus Schwab.

@jeffro4kag206

5 ай бұрын

No soup for you!

@TheTraveler2222

4 ай бұрын

God rest his soul. Mao Tse Tung was a humanitarian whom saved millions of lives with his Great Leap Forward policy which had given China agricultural independence and feeds 20% of humanity today, he also help freed China from the traitorous PRC Government, if it wasn't for Mao, China would be a mere puppet of USA today...just like Japan and South Korea which are no longer real countries since they forfeited all sovereignty.

American, mid-30s. I’ve never heard of this. It truly astounds me what we were and weren’t taught about history. My son once asked if the Hunger Games could actually happen. I said it probably already did. Well, minus the high-tech arena, here it is. Just horrific.

@-HughJass-

4 ай бұрын

You really have never heard of this? And you're in your 30's? That's just sad & pathetic. That's a failure on your part just as much as the educational system.

@cokebottles6919

4 ай бұрын

There are several reasons why most schools won’t go into detail on the Great Leap Forward and what happened in Russia. There are an uncomfortable number of academics that either sympathize with Moa and Stalin, don’t believe these things actually happened or believe the West is responsible, or are afraid it will scare students away from socialism and that it just hasn’t been done right.

@remigusker6024

4 ай бұрын

​ It's important to note this wasn't socialism as we know it today. If you want to see what properly employed socialism is, look at Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, etc. What this was, was authoritarian insanity and utter ignorance of the reality they lived in and what was actually possible with the technology and culture of the time.

@-HughJass-

4 ай бұрын

@@remigusker6024 Unequivocally false. Go spew your communist propaganda somewhere else.

@lindas2531

3 ай бұрын

Stalin did the same to Ukrainians and remote Russian provinces

I attended a gathering at a friend of my GF's house a couple of years ago. The host, an American white guy around age 70 at one point was talking about how marvelous modern day China was and how wonderful the Communist revolution was. How the people of China were so lucky to have been brought into the modern world by Mao. I replied, sure, if you can overlook the 50 million who died in the famines. He gave me a dirty look and said nothing more.

@jacobengle5567

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@marshal6540

2 жыл бұрын

50 million is absurd,why you exaggerate the figure ?

@humanchannel7825

2 жыл бұрын

@@marshal6540 because that is the exact number that died

@marshal6540

2 жыл бұрын

@@humanchannel7825 how do you konw genius?

@humanchannel7825

2 жыл бұрын

@@marshal6540 how do you know six million Jews died in the holocaust ?

The world and younger generations should never forget their older generations who went through such horrific and horrendous days.

@orvoloco8261

2 жыл бұрын

I bet in China literally nobody knows the true story and the few who still remember probably they keep silence in order to not being killed. China, a true free country.

@mikereger1186

2 жыл бұрын

Except that they won’t. They’ll blindly follow the Woke Cult right into authoritarianism and misery and carry on believing they’re the Good Guys. And anybody trying to show what happens if you do that will be smeared and outcast.

@MrTaxiRob

2 жыл бұрын

they should remember that older generations did these things to one another

@MyHandelsMessiah

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrTaxiRob truth

@oarheadeoye9328

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrTaxiRob is l

I was married to a Chinese born and bred woman for 10 years until 2020. She struggled to come to terms with the amount of people who died in the famine, and was in denial about the Tiananmen Square massacre, both of which are taboo subjects in her native country. The CCP closely regulates what is taught in schools and neither of those topics are permitted along with several other topics which paint the CCP in a bad light, it won't be long until no one from those times will still be alive to tell what really happened and then it will be completely forgotten about.

@user-nc3iz8re8k

4 ай бұрын

In fact, there was a famine in only about five provinces in China at that time. Unfortunately, my family was in one of them, which resulted in my grandfather becoming an orphan. But the numbers in this video and in the comment area are still exaggerated, because I asked many people outside these provinces that they did not die from famine there. Let me finally mention that Chairman Mao was retired at the time and was not in power.

yeah both sides of my family suffered from this, dads side went to hong kong, mums side had to renounce all their assets and lay low to avoid prosecution. Basically lost all their land, business & wealth. Mums side managed to stow away some minor wealth comprising antiques, precious metals, paintings, all now remain in china. Some of the arts and antiques were later donated to museums in china. The great leap forward was a brutally simple extermination of the upper classes and class divide but also had far reaching consequences with erasure of chinese culture, literature, intellect, innovation & human development.

The world needs to hear this over and over again!

@tinytattoomike7943

2 жыл бұрын

We’re about to relive it

@user-qh3ef1tp5k

2 жыл бұрын

No need. We already know it. The revolution of society often comes with sweat and blood.

@geoms6263

2 жыл бұрын

why? we never learn. We tend to repet.... its inevitable

@maciejrogozinski8277

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-qh3ef1tp5k Revolution of society? It was a genocide not a revolution

@ethimself5064

2 жыл бұрын

@@maciejrogozinski8277 👍👍 Although believe it or not - these top tier political etc leaders have Type A Personalities to say the very least, this is actually built into our DNA. To survive we will need to overcome the DNA thing

'A country that can't face up to its history has no future'. Well said. We are seeing it repeating itself, again, in 2022.

@intrigued16

2 жыл бұрын

In what why are we seeing it? I'm not being condescending. I'm just wondering where your point of view is coming from.

@sempergumby2341

2 жыл бұрын

@@intrigued16 well it's no coincidence that covid and lockdowns struck right as protests reached a historical level not seen in China since Tiananmen square. The food shortages also began before covid hit. The lockdowns give a different excuse to the people as to why food is not being delivered in adequate quantities, giving the illusion of control.

@simon7585

2 жыл бұрын

@@intrigued16 the zero covid policy is a repeat of zero sparrow policy，right？

@kurtsaidwhat

2 жыл бұрын

@@intrigued16 how about all the lies and coverups of mass deficiencies?

@stephentucker6548

Жыл бұрын

The left sure is trying to bring about another socialist paradise that only the elites really want. They don't know they're useful idiots. I'll keep my liberties and the fruits of my own labor.

I watched with tears in my eyes and horrified when realizing this terrible tragedy may happen again to humans under dictator’s oppression.

@eremstemero8823

Жыл бұрын

It can indeed happen any time and everywhere. The the only precondition is we give too much power to one person, above all the ultimate power to unilaterally decide what is right and what is wrong. It always ended in a disaster.

@bandito_burrito

Жыл бұрын

If u live in an almost entirely agrarian, third-world country with little to no literacy, then you should be worried.

@rally_chronicles

Жыл бұрын

The faster, the better as that regime must fall again. AT ANY COST

@JSchaffer214

Жыл бұрын

Just take a look at a nation like Venezuela or North Korea. It's either happening right under your nose or on the verge of complete national failure.

@66xXDeathIsNearXx66

Жыл бұрын

It is happening to Uighurs

I cried towards the end, I cried for all those people and the horrors they endured the scale of which is difficult even to imagine. I cried knowing our species can be so incredibly cruel. I cried knowing the victims were never even officially recognized or given a proper memorial.

@PrimoStracciatella

8 ай бұрын

They weren't even given a proper burial.

@blazejames47

7 ай бұрын

Never mind the dozens of millions who died directly before this point as well, in brutal events such as the Taipeng rebellion. It is sad to consider the unfortunately exceptional brutality of China’s history in the last two hundred years alone. It’s a concept beyond western conception.

The loss wasn't only in lives. It was also in Chinese culture. A great and ancient culture that has been mostly blown up or burned down.

@gwho

2 жыл бұрын

most communist countries end up with low supply of essential goods due to centralized command economies... it's not just a chinese thing.

@chriswhited

2 жыл бұрын

One of the, if not top, top aims of any communist revolution. Thanos explained it in the avengers (basic example). Erase everything so there is nothing that you forgot. Hand in hand with "make the individual impossible" along with eradicating competition in any normal state.

@Shinobi33

2 жыл бұрын

Same thing in Cuba. The people who were born and raised under Castro's regime are so trash and pathetic. No fault of their own. Same thing liberals have done to black Americans

@yangana4099

2 жыл бұрын

@@chriswhited americans must have brainrot the way they can only talk about history and politics in terms of marvel and hamburger

@chriswhited

2 жыл бұрын

@@yangana4099 well actually pol pot did it and lenin did say get rid of dictionaries and create a new dictionary. I just used something (thanos) whixh alot of people saw.

Just shows how a relatively small handful of people can destroy the lives of millions.

@stephenkalatucka6213

Жыл бұрын

A lesson for the US, which is toying with socialism/communism.

@jasonmuniz-contreras6630

Жыл бұрын

Yeah British empire, Manifest Destiny etc

@tonhettema1005

Жыл бұрын

...when everyone complies..

@weirdshibainu

Жыл бұрын

@@tonhettema1005 Humans are largely herd animals

@tonhettema1005

Жыл бұрын

complying makes one complicit

There I was, feeling sorry for myself, surfing KZread. Then I watched this documentary. I got over it.

This should be MANDATORY for every single American college student.

@bluegregory6239

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more, given the ahistorical 'wokeism' of academia these days.

@chrps0at0cops

Жыл бұрын

@@bluegregory6239 I do agree that we should study this event and learn from the mistakes. I think there are many takeaways from the failures of communist China and Russia. I would not want to be hasty though and completely rule out all aspects of socialism or communism due to these failures. It would be just as folly to condemn all aspects of capitalism due to the failure of the Hitler's Germany or the multitude of capitalist third world countries. I hope we can find the perfect balance one day but studying the mistakes of our ancestors

@lindas2531

3 ай бұрын

Why not for Chinese, sorry? Stalin did the same to Ukrainians and remote Russian provinces

@strangevisions5162

3 ай бұрын

@@chrps0at0cops feel free to explain how Hitler's Germany is a bad example of capitalism.

@strangevisions5162

3 ай бұрын

would it even matter? they can watch videos of current events, and still swear the opposite.

“Did you ever hear the Tragedy of the Great Leap Forward?” “No.” “It’s not a story the Chinese government would tell you.”

@lorenglamith1404

2 жыл бұрын

So true. As far as I know, it was on the Chinese history textbook BUT the topic has never been taught and never tested in any single major history examination, guess that the chinese gov wants to eradicate this piece of history among future generations

@TheExtraterrestrial99

2 жыл бұрын

Do you media or history tell you about US led economy embargo against China during 1950-1972?

@SW-fy8pq

Жыл бұрын

US & UK said there is a weapon of mass destruction in Iraq. In fact US & UK lied again and again about everything which is against their interest. We don't need to believe in China, but neither do we need to trust the words of US and its lapdog.

@EaizePeazy

Жыл бұрын

3 replies are not shown. Guess the Chinese government didn't like your comment. and where spreading dis-information?

@sitizenkanemusic

Жыл бұрын

People visiting from the CCP can just talk to people from Taiwan. They'll tell them the truth.

wow. this woman is what a true journalist is. i wish this could reach more people. thank you for this ill always regret not asking my grandpa for the full story of his experience in the USSR, WW2, german POW camp, and the gulag.

@albatross5466

2 жыл бұрын

This woman is a reader. She did not investigate or write any of this. At 14:40 she mispronounces "proliferated". Only a reader would make that mistake. Edit; I just realized you were talking about the investigator featured in the film. She is not the person narrating. You are correct about the investigator. My apologies.

@alejogarciajr022

2 жыл бұрын

Chinese became united during d times of genesis khan who united d wholes of china

@albatross5466

2 жыл бұрын

@@alejogarciajr022 Yes, while he committed genocidal atrocities.

@erobb

2 жыл бұрын

she is spreading FAKE news

@albatross5466

2 жыл бұрын

@@erobb OK. Provide evidence. Without evidence I could just as justifiably say that you are spreading propaganda sympathetic to a foreign government.

THANK YOU FOR SPREADING TRUTH! IGNORANT COLLEGE STUDENTS NEED TO WATCH THIS.

I've always been horrified when I've read something about the Great Leap Forward. However, seeing actual video footage makes it even worse to comprehend.

@conanthegreat4418

Жыл бұрын

It's happening RIGHT THIS MINUTE in North Korea, and NOTHING is being done!

@notaTroll2

Жыл бұрын

​@@conanthegreat4418 This is happening in west , it's about education of history. That's y ccp killed teachers. Learning from their mistakes they have infiltrated west education system while the generals build the communes(15 min citys) we will have nothing and be happy they say smh while promoting ccp as a great standard for the new world order.

That term "indescribable madness" is the best description of this period. Before 2020 I could have never understood how this could happen, but I saw a small glimpse and its terrifying to think this is where you can end up because of a small group of megalomaniacs

@magicnier211

2 жыл бұрын

Yes .. it can happen anywhere .. with the dominant narrative influencing my views I thought the Eastern and the less develope nation of the world commit this act until I witness Trump

@Artsyca

2 жыл бұрын

This is just hooman nature. All the effort those poor bumpkins put into pleasing their masters they could’ve overthrown them a thousand times over. Think about how this is being replayed in a thousand different ways in the modern world. I’ve experienced the same quotas and targets and blind servitude in so many corporations where manager cadres are incentivized to keep their workers in line through all kinds of psychosocial manipulations. As long as humans live hand to mouth some arrogant sociopath with a supercilious haircut will always be able to gain the upper hand.

@Cobaltryno

2 жыл бұрын

@@magicnier211 wtf are you talking about?

@comment3711

Жыл бұрын

@@magicnier211 Hmm, president who’s orange tinged, polarizing and had the best economy in years vs a leader who took his country further into poverty and caused the death of more than 50 million people. Tough choice.

@comment3711

Жыл бұрын

@Jay January How is that even remotely valid? Communast logic 🤡

Met a guy who was a boy at the time of the famine, used to eat the plaster from the walls so he hunger pains wouldn’t keep him awake at night. The local village put guards on the small cemetery so people wouldn’t dig up the dead to eat them. First case of cannibalism he was aware of when a person from a neighboring village collapsed and died as he walked through the village - some people took his body that night and used it as food.

@Webedunn

Жыл бұрын

JESUS!

Taking teachers to a labour camp and labelling it a "re-education camp". They really don't realise the irony.

this should be required study in high school how terribly sad And many young people today want to try this again here in the U. S.

@BurdenofTheMighty

Жыл бұрын

It’s been here. Only those who pander to the media’s narrative see success. Everyone else? Persecuted.

I’ve always called it the Great LIE forward. The saddest part is just how little he thought of the PEOPLE in his supposed Peoples movement. The comment made by the writer sticks with me “A country that cannot face its past has no future.”

@person3070

2 жыл бұрын

correct

@generalmartok3990

2 жыл бұрын

I lived in China for several years. I eventually got to learn the stories of my friends' relatives during this time. A lot of them referred to it as "the Great Leap Backward".

@Gorboduc

2 жыл бұрын

Jim Jones' Peoples Temple didn't care much about "the people" either.

@xxfrosty609xx3

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gorboduc at some point you get some megalomaniac who believes their “method” will bring prosperity to all to the detriment of all.

@thunderbird1921

2 жыл бұрын

I CANNOT believe after the horrors of Stalin, Mao and the Kim family that some people still advocate for Communism. It's literally the deadliest ideology in history.

Let's not forget this doctrine was exported and implemented lock, stock and barrel to Cambodia 20 years later, with equally disasterous results.

@tritium1998

2 жыл бұрын

Let's not forget Communist Vietnam also supported that party during the Second Indochina War, and maybe even the USA too since it was there, but another irony is that you imps and your narratives love Communist Vietnam now.

@bluegregory6239

Жыл бұрын

@@tritium1998 One. of the greatest ironies in modern history is that China and the US both supported Cambodia. The only historical parallel that springs to mind is the USA's inexplicable support of Pakistan, a major Chinese client and in some ways the facilitator of North Korea's nuclear program. Shameful in both cases.

Seeing the poor children suffering makes me tear up

My parents lived in the city during those years, they still vividly remember the bizarre things they were told to do, beat drums and things so sparrows have no places to land or perch, give up any old metal objects so they can be melted to "make steel"; they still refer to that period "the three year of natural disaster"; my father side has large family with a single mother, with food ration coupons, grandmother would go hungry so the kids can use the coupons. My college friend's father was in very rural village in Fujian, things were much much worse for them during those years.

My fiancé’s parents lived through that time, and she told me that they were still shaken up by what they’ve seen and experienced during the “Great Famine” until the day they died!

@MA-gv3wg

Жыл бұрын

The elders that survived the famine ate many dead people to SURVIVE.

@davidz7858

10 ай бұрын

My father in law was a teenager that time, he was so close to die of starvation. He told us he saw someone came from opposite direction and collapsed in front of him and died. Even today he visit us, when we do shopping, he always insists to buy a new bag of rice even though we still have more than half of bag rice at home.

@tywanjacob2910

Ай бұрын

@@davidz7858 You can't really blame him for acting like this. He's probably suffering from PTSD. He went through a traumatic experience at such a young age, so that memory will definitely stick with him until he leaves this world!

fun fact: Mao Zedong had green teeth because every morning he used to wash his teeth with tea and then chew tea leaves. His personal doctor was worried he might get dental issues but Mao told him "Tigers never brush their teeth" 🤦🏻‍♂️

@Rohit-nn9ky

2 жыл бұрын

lol cracked me up

@JLKB-1947

2 жыл бұрын

@ Ying Yang . True . Mentioned by his personal physician .

@rainmain1530

Жыл бұрын

咱还是看点货真价实的东西吧。他的那个私人医生的东西毫无可信度。

@trackrunner11

Жыл бұрын

He was a Psychopath pure and simple!

@capricorn839

Жыл бұрын

@@desortinyrodmann3702 They found out during the embalming process

About 20 years ago when I was in college I was working in a hospital dishroom washing thousands of dishes a couple times a day. There was a very old hunchback Chinese lady that worked back there with me and every shift I'd see her taking the leftover food from the dirty plates and eating it right off the conveyor belt despite the fact that you could easily get free food from the kitchen. No one knew she could speak english except me, I was the only person she'd ever speak to so I asked her why she did that and she said because didn't want to waste the food and begged me not to tell on her. It always made me wonder what kind of craziness she went through in her life that eating half eaten food from a hospital patient's plate with bloody gauze and much more nastiness on the plates didn't bother her one bit, just watching it made me want to gag and I always pleaded with her to stop which she never did.

@lifeisabadjoke5750

9 ай бұрын

dam crazy lol

@infomercialwars

9 ай бұрын

​@@lifeisabadjoke5750 No kidding, I'll never forget that and a lot of other stuff I saw in that hospital lol

27:00 Really sums up the mental state of the people that this guy’s calmly talking about witnessing a man starve to death; and, literally the next second, he’s laughing about eating leaves 😮.

When even USSR thinks you are too extreme

It’s really heartbreaking that the people of China especially the younger generations are completely left in the dark about this, while mao is everywhere even on their currency.

@kiwitrainguy

Жыл бұрын

According to other posts in these comments, it is passed on by word of mouth in private.

@Taylordessalines

Жыл бұрын

While the West has it’s murderers on all their currencies. Gtfoh with this pompous bs.

@serdavosseaworth6115

Жыл бұрын

Benjamin Franklin didn’t force 60 million people into starvation dude, sure the west has its problems but a history of murderous communism isn’t one of them.

@user-jn3ox3nr9b

Жыл бұрын

我知道，但他依然是我心中很伟大的领袖

@notaTroll2

Жыл бұрын

This is happening in west , it's about education of history. That's y ccp killed teachers. Learning from their mistakes they have infiltrated west education system while the generals build the communes(15 min citys) we will have nothing and be happy they say smh while promoting ccp as a great standard for the new world order. The mass migration in process

Just cannot help getting teary and emotional again and again watching this ... Heavens, why so much suffering for Chinese people, my country, my race?! I'm so sad because I know it's all true - my own grandmother on my mother's side died of starvation then! following her husband who as the head of the village in the government hang himself when communist's "Chinese liberation army" came.

@user-se2vl1zx6o

8 ай бұрын

Hello, I'm from Sichuan. It was really a great tragedy to think about that year. All this can only be blamed on the incompetence of the national government, which made them win.，Alas, it's all fate.

How insane had things become, when they would go to lengths to make it seem like 90K people died of hunger in an area rather than the actual 120K? How would 'just' 90K be acceptable?

I love the like "women were liberated from their maternal duties to work in the fields" nothing more liborating than toiling away for days on end for no pay.

This documentary needs to be seen,heard and understood by anyone supporting communism ....

@SenorSoapberryBug

2 жыл бұрын

Very sad indeed. But the documentary reads as a example of dictatorial rule. But regarding ur communism, your sentiment Is a bit undercut by the fact China is about to be the leading superpower of this century.

@stephentucker6548

Жыл бұрын

@@SenorSoapberryBug - And the least free country too. The people will have enough of them soon enough when their next big war comes along.

@SenorSoapberryBug

Жыл бұрын

@Ferrell Gray people have said that since the 50s.... and now they are about to be the global super power. So.. good luck with your prediction being right.

@pickledragonrebel

Жыл бұрын

@@SenorSoapberryBug the whole world is going to collapse. Mark my words

@SenorSoapberryBug

Жыл бұрын

@@pickledragonrebel says one rando online, and millions of dead so called prophets.

The Great Reset is sounding more and more like the Great Leap Forward the more i learn of it.

@minners19

Жыл бұрын

I was just thinking the same thing!

One word of advice: if your authorities ever try to take away property rights, do everything you can to prevent it. Even if you are almost assured to die doing so. Because if they do, the result will be far worse than death.

@herbsuperb6034

Жыл бұрын

Open fire. The 2nd amendment was recognized by our illustrious founders for a reason. DON'T BE AFRAID OF IT! BE GRATEFUL FOR IT! It is YOUR right, not bestowed by government, bestowed by GOD! Every American's birthright, and should be the birthright of EVERY citizen of the world.

@danepcarver4951

Жыл бұрын

You will own nothing and be happy. Coming to America.

there a saying in china：内斗内行 外斗外行 （experts in fighting among themselves, amateurs in fighting against outsiders）. Chinese killed more of their own than any other invaders or enemies, for a reason.

Imagine asking your child to eat your heart when you die. I wept. There are fates far worse than death, indeed.

"Constipation from eating mud to feed the hunger" is the most hardcore demise I've ever heard. 😮 General Mao, Y U-no give them food?

This was one of the best doc's I have seen in quite a while and this is a very necessary one.

@timv9223

5 ай бұрын

@@Neuroburger found the boot licker

Powerful documentary. Don't forget or excuse the mistakes of history.

@Celisar1

2 жыл бұрын

Mass murder is not a mistake.

@Amador253

2 жыл бұрын

@@Celisar1 I think he means him coming to power was

@Misaka-gt5yj

2 жыл бұрын

The irony is that the gen Z westerners want Maoism again and are even fine with the government taking their assets under no due process. Turns out that "history" can easily be rewritten by future tankies.

@klytouch7515

2 жыл бұрын

Mao only mistake was treatment of human conditions as if they are machines.. hmmm that is how modern uncontrolle capitalism economic model treatment our human species today... Yet with artificial intelligence technologies and investment in energy innovation our communism philosophy will be great again .. hmmm

@slavish_superiority

2 жыл бұрын

already happened again...It even affected the marines at the US consulate in Shanghai. They had no fresh food to eat and had to evacuate immediately. This is the first time Americans have experienced totalitarian style famine

You know you're in a worrysome time when you're A: surprised anyone would make this video at this time and B: even more surprised KZread hasn't taken this down yet.

@blondezeke6640

Жыл бұрын

Why would KZread take it down?

@raydavison4288

Жыл бұрын

@@blondezeke6640: It has been my experience that KZread rarely takes ANYTHING down. They usually demonetize videos they deem objectionable.

@serdavosseaworth6115

Жыл бұрын

This won’t get taken down, it doesn’t go against the “mainstream” Political agenda.

"You will own nothing, and you will be happy."

Thank you so much for this video. For making easy education and brining light to such a topic. Love the people who interviewed and the interviewers. Thank you for this video c:

This is surprisingly, shockingly accurate. Often documentaries embellish or misconstrue- this didn’t.

@bobs_toys

2 жыл бұрын

It's like the September 18th museum in Shenyang for the Mukden incident. Some things are so damning they don't need exaggeration.

@flounder2129

2 жыл бұрын

How do you know?

@kandastrike

2 жыл бұрын

@@flounder2129 I’ve read and I recommend the works of Jung Chang. I have other sources if you’re interested.

@flounder2129

2 жыл бұрын

@@kandastrike thank you, not necessary. This is the first I’ve delved into this time. Horrible

@kandastrike

2 жыл бұрын

@素食吉祥净心净土 Yes, I am not denying that, but Mao’s crimes were real too.

Terrifying, how one psychopath can mobolize the mobs ( mostly proud youths), and even turn them to hate their own parents, teachers, and literally devour one another. The price of killing sparrows

@HenryBenedictUSA

Жыл бұрын

Literally what’s happening in the u.s today…

@HenryBenedictUSA

Жыл бұрын

Literally what’s happening in the u.s today…

@conanthegreat4418

Жыл бұрын

It's beginning now, in America, with this Marxist takeover through Joe Biden and his Frankfurt School minions. First thing to go is the supply chain. You see tremendous shortages everywhere which is connected to the administrations REFUSAL to expand American gas & oil production. Now, the Communists are burning down food production facilities all over the country, and Black Lives Matter, a self-professed Marxist organization, basically controls the narrative everywhere.

@angeleye4253

Жыл бұрын

Cult mentality/hive mind!.

@ulfingvar1

Жыл бұрын

Happened in Germany, happened in Russia..

This is one of the best if not the best documentary this channel made. Sooooo good

It’s worth mentioning that the ideas used for collectivization of agriculture were based on Trofim Lysenko’s “Lysenkoism”, which posited that plants would grow better in a communistic type set up, all together in bunches, to support eachother. All the traditional farmers had already been killed, and lysenokism lead to massive starvation there as well.

@arthas640

10 ай бұрын

It never ceases to amaze me how many times collectivized farming got proven to be a bad idea yet every communist country made it one of their first priorities. Most of the time it ended in famine yet they just kept trying it again and again with each leader thinking "well I know better than they did" and seeing the same results. They were often made worse since often the new collectiivized farms were run by people without much knowledge of farming or the locals so they often made terrible mistakes.

@0lionheart

8 ай бұрын

@@arthas640 it's actual madness to think people with zero agricultural experience thought they were qualified to tell others how to farm. That's a core issue, it's just insane. No system can function if it's led by literal morons.

Xun was one of my lecturers at the Uni of Essex. I always remember how her eyes used to light up when someone engaged in the topic. She really gave off the impression of being a tremendously driven and competent scholar in this field. (She's also a notoriously strict marker, which goes to show how far her commitment to good academic practice goes - it often felt like my undergrad papers were being graded against an MA standard :P)

I think this is where China's exotic cuisine culture came from. Being forced to eat anything from insects to dogs, cats, lizards, etc. for years, convinced many that anything is good to eat.

@arleneparris3446

Жыл бұрын

🥇

@ulfingvar1

Жыл бұрын

Exotic? Evil and psychotic is what it is..

@newworldbro

11 ай бұрын

@@ulfingvar1not evil if you’re going through starvation you’ll find something to eat.

@tedtan6449

3 ай бұрын

They dug up bodies, just to eat it.

@freeBirbBirb

3 ай бұрын

racist

The hunger continued in rural area til 1980s ( Not as severe as those 3 years but impressive for those who lived through). It was just covered by the bigger case of cultural revolution. Farmers suffer the most. Same story repeats...

Patterns repeat… Thanks so much for spreading this content and awareness

A lot of respect for Timeline putting this out today. People need to know the history and truth about tyranny, communism, & socialism.

@morisco56

Жыл бұрын

But why are there people who still beleive in communism when all it achieves is starvation, tyrany and opression.

@rafangille

Жыл бұрын

it’s not just communism or socialism it’s authoritarianism

@rafaelllaban4115

2 ай бұрын

@@rafangille Those go hand in hand

@ChristianBoday

11 күн бұрын

​@@rafangilleSame animal. Dont listen to coward hippy professors.

My grandma is a survivor of great leap forward, in her village, there are totally 72 people died of farmine.

@tamdingphuntsok9280

2 жыл бұрын

Not 72 million?

@lorenglamith1404

2 жыл бұрын

@@tamdingphuntsok9280 only "in her village" though

Thank you for opening my eyes to such a tragedy.

One father in Hunan killed and ate his son during the famine, when asked why he did it, he had a simple reply “Mercy” Just puts into perspective the horror

@stillcantbesilencedevennow

Жыл бұрын

Tbf, that screams of "bullshit*t". I would kill myself to feed my kids before I would let them give up on life.

He was extremely wicked& anyone that followed his command.What a Damn crying shame.

@ruidixin3460

2 жыл бұрын

His Greatest Admirer and Follower is Chairman Xi jin ping

@dorismahoney1440

2 жыл бұрын

I guess do it or die.

@maapaa2010

Жыл бұрын

@@ruidixin3460 diabolical

I had a coworker who was a PhD in chemistry who had to leave because intellectuals were being murdered in China . He had 2 children and his wife elected to stay in China .

@capricorn839

Жыл бұрын

Are they still alive by staying there ?

An excellent documentary although I am left angry and disgusted by Mao Tse-Tung and the painstaking horrors people went through. Why do you need a war when you have a narcissistic maniac in power. It is too bad this evil man died so late in the game. One life for 40 million.

Wow, Did Netflix grow a backbone? People need to hear this.

People in America complain they are oppressed. They don't even know the meaning of the word

@sdscott6202

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, and they think they want THIS. lunatics...

@intrigued16

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately you are right, fortunately I am not one of those Americans. I am an American that is grateful for the country I live in, believe me I am not the most well-off. Doing okay but far from great. But still grateful. It's sad that people in my country are taking small things and things that don't even actually happen and call themselves oppressed. Because it's taking the focus off real issues and fact that they overemphasize the issues they're dealing with, people start to not care. It's annoying and obnoxious. Especially when they cry about being oppressed for whatever reason but at the same time want to oppress other people and to force them to change how they are. It is a small percentage of our society. But they are getting a lot of attention and with social media and the internet have a very loud mic. Which is allowing them to grow and allowing them to influence.

@BobSmith1980.

2 жыл бұрын

@@intrigued16 exactly. I think there are more of us than we realize,but by our nature we are not the loud mouths of society and by their nature, they are.

@JLKB-1947

2 жыл бұрын

@ Bob Smith . Agree .

@JLKB-1947

2 жыл бұрын

@@intrigued16 . Agree .

An unbiased view from a Hong Kong citizen! Many mainland Chinese have a very different view of their history.

@sheilafontaine9021

2 жыл бұрын

at least 45 million of those views have been forever silenced

@yesm2302

2 жыл бұрын

@@sheilafontaine9021 nice!

@cullercoatstunneloflove4307

2 жыл бұрын

@@sheilafontaine9021 Depends on who writes the history? Have you been to China? I have many times. What about the Japanese before and during the 2ndWW, Nanjing, Unit 731, the British Opium war, and the taking of Hong Kong. All the foreign countries (UK, USA, Germany, etc) carved up a bit of China for their own interest. Many of the older generations still think that Mao did many good things (but not all)! The younger generation is more and more western in its views and outlook.

@cullercoatstunneloflove4307

2 жыл бұрын

Talk about selective news media, I just tried to view a Chinese report on Xinjiang province and the page is blocked! Oh, I live in the UK. Just because someone says it's true does not make it factually correct, you are being told the full and truthful version. I know many people who lived through this period. They have always been honest (good and bad) about this time.

@LibtardTears

2 жыл бұрын

They cant talk about it or they end up in boxite mine.

Heartbreaking but critical to understand. Thanks to everyone who produced this doc!. Powerful documentary. Don't forget or excuse the mistakes of history..

@OceanicPearlz1

8 ай бұрын

Yes very heartbreaking, im having a heavy heart rn as im thinking my own love/loved ones….. who suffered under Mao…. There is that part empty part of me that just feels like I missed an opportunity to get the elderly primary sources of my own family’s ancestry….cause ALL of my great grandparents already met their destiny…….

Have we really learned from History or are we destined to repeat it? When lessons like this haven't been passed down I fear that we are.

@fun_ghoul

11 ай бұрын

The lesson is that Amerikkkans will believe anything the idiot box tells them to. You're proof.

I was also in the Pol Pot EuroChinese communist facilities for 6 months and my parents and Me siblings suffered exchanging our gold for food and lastly, we returned to Vietnam by the Soviet Vietnamese small Viking ship. Thank God, we survived to be in The USA.

Knowing all of this, those current western journalists who still to this day spout the Communist party line, deserve the harshest condemnation.

@stephentucker6548

Жыл бұрын

They're the ones who want to be on the elite side of socialism or just 'useful idiots'. There is only super-wealthy and dirt poor in that system. I'll stick to capitalism and our multi-strata class system. I'll stick to reaping the fruits of my own labor!

@Hahaha41241

Жыл бұрын

Who does that?

@gamingforever9121

Жыл бұрын

So a bullet to the head I agree

@Kunfucious577

Жыл бұрын

@@Hahaha41241who doesn’t? If you don’t know, you’ve been indoctrinated.

@stillcantbesilencedevennow

Жыл бұрын

@@Hahaha41241 been asleep for a few years, eh? Lol it isn't just journalists either. It's called "greener grass syndrome" in my circle. People THINK they're getting the shaft, when in reality they're surprisingly well taken care of. Ignorance is bliss, sure. But it also makes the sheep arrogant.

My son, niece and nephew -all preteens- recently complained about being hungry. I showed them some of this excellent documentary. Ive received no more complaints. I remember telling my great grandmother who grew up in the great depression, i was hungry between meals. After she told me that her and her sisters would snack on crayons and candle wax to curb their hunger I understood that I have never really been hungry. Most people watching this have never known hunger. The things that we take for granted would absolutely shame us in front of people who endured a tragedy such as this.

A very good well documented well researched story .

My grandfather lived through that era. He used to tell us stories about that time, in the disappointment with the government, how his family had little to eat and had to eat dead fishes he can found in the village river just so that the family could survive. On top of that, he needed to worry about getting falsely accused by the red guard, even though he was just a minor account for the village official but not a party member. Although he still supports the government, he condemns the great leap forward movement, the red guard, especially the so-called "Gang of Four."

@joshlewis575

2 жыл бұрын

I will never understand people like your granddad. How in the frick do they still support the ccp after living through this n seeing all the lies 1st hand. Baffling

@jayharper3491

Жыл бұрын

If he still supports the government, then he is part of the problem.

@squizzyicetea

Жыл бұрын

It's mind-blowing to me to see how many young people actually think communism or socialism is a good idea. They think that it is some paradise idea and actively fight to be able to vote for it. It makes me sad

@stillcantbesilencedevennow

Жыл бұрын

"although he still supports the government" ahhhh so he's senile too. Or just too proud to admit he got duped.

@Rawfish2003

Жыл бұрын

@@squizzyicetea You are so one-sided. Look at how strong China is now. How fast China develop. You only look at the mistake we made so you negate the communism.

We should all learn the lesson of unquestioned compliance and how dangerous it is to our society.

@stephentucker6548

Жыл бұрын

We should all learn the lesson that there is no such thing as a socialist paradise.

@kulturalkontrariankomedy

Жыл бұрын

@@stephentucker6548 If people use brute force to get their way we won't live long enough to know if the world can be heavenly

@keithskegwin

Жыл бұрын

Lol, agreed. Look at the blind compliance (by many) in the west in the last 2 years too. Like a mass hypnosis

@Internet_user777

Жыл бұрын

Yes these societies also come in many forms but alway controlled by the elites

@josephlogel7158

Жыл бұрын

Unquestioned compliance as in the way trumps following does whatever he tells them to?

history will always repeat itself...because the people who repeat it believe that "this time we will do better than those of the past"

@aimeeredacted9439

8 ай бұрын

history will repeat itself if it is not taught without bias, this is biased.

I went a barnes an noble in virginia a few years back, no books or history of any of the crimes of communism, but they had endless copies of karl marx'es communist manifestoon display like a new harry potter book. Fine line between fantasy and fiction, seems we will keep learning that lesson until even more millions of souls have died.

"How do we fix our food shortage?" "Simple. We outlaw hunger."

@blahblahboii

Жыл бұрын

cant have famine if we dont call it famine. cant have poverty if we dont call it poverty cant have covid if we dont call it covid

"Dare to think" is highly ironic, given the opposition of the party to anyone thinking.

@imnotracistbut-9559

2 жыл бұрын

It was a threat, not an invitation

@akiyajapan

2 жыл бұрын

@@imnotracistbut-9559 hahaha

Imagine being responsible for 45 million deaths and still sleeping well at night.

This documentary was able to captivate my attention the whole way through

This is the best documentary on the great leap forward showing what it really was. This was about as bad if not worst then the Holocaust. This is the worst display of human evil I've ever seen.

@rejvaik00

2 жыл бұрын

I agree great documentary and in terms of pure death toll it's much worse But just because it's worse doesn't mean it removes the significance surrounding the evil of either event Both are horrible horrible events as a result of terrible government policies and I only hope that they are never forgotten or defended

@sempergumby2341

2 жыл бұрын

Actually dozens of times worse

@keeganbluegrass

2 жыл бұрын

@@rejvaik00 I would agree, but often the great leap forward is forgotten by the west and often hidden by the Chinese Gov, while the Holocaust is justly remembered with reverence.

@JLKB-1947

2 жыл бұрын

Agree .

@bluennos1566

2 жыл бұрын

I understand what you mean by that, but you just can't make this comparison, because both of these things ar bad but it's really two very uncomparable situations you are talking about. If you would want to make such arguments, you should talk about china's and SSRS communism measures, it is more appropriate and comparable.

most of my family grew up in this era. they told me I was lucky not to grow up in the "starving time" and had to steal or eat bark, but mao was still a good leader. this family of mine contradicts itself on so many levels considering my deceased grandfather was a principal and one of his sons in laws was a red guard in a system designed to reward beating up his colleagues. it was a bizarre time for me to try to process how china screwed them so badly in the head

@raimondsstokmanis1892

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, the contradictions. Slightly reminds me of my mother who lived during soviet times in Eastern Europe. She would sometimes say, how much better certain things were , that with such little cash you could buy so much, but then she says you had to wait in long lines to buy stuff, and you could only get certain stuff like let's say a well made, with connections to certain people.

@jianqiaocao2446

2 жыл бұрын

compare India and Africa with China ，maybe you will understand why your family said “ Mao was still a good leader”

@reecemorton4786

2 жыл бұрын

@@jianqiaocao2446 China is a 5,000 year old cultural powerhouse, not sub Saharan Africa. They should’ve never had any “starving times”

@jianqiaocao2446

2 жыл бұрын

@@reecemorton4786 Between 108 BC and 1911 AD, there were at least 1828 famines in China. Famines occur almost every year in at least one province, but the severity varies widely.

@reecemorton4786

2 жыл бұрын

@@jianqiaocao2446 how many times has 1/10th of the entire population starved?

Great journalism and photograhy . The truth shall set you free~ Should be required in high schools and colleges. Love and Prayers ♡♡♡

My friend’s family lived through that famine and ate cakes made of mud to fill their bellies. They were severely constipated from the mud that they had to pick help each other pass the mud by picking it out. He was born after the famine in 1966.

I remember being stunned in college that a guy in my dorm was a committed communist. I think we've tried it enough times in different societies with different levels of development to know it doesn't work

@aaron_craig

2 жыл бұрын

Just posted a comment on western educations in the last few decades coddling communist. Glad to see I am not the only one who sees this. The irony is that western communists are very socially sensitive... Yet ignore alllllll the harm communism must enact before it even comes underway.

@snowissj

2 жыл бұрын

Technically, all political systems are f Ed up. And pure anarchy is impossible. We’re human, we’re morons. Whatever we touch seems to go sideways eventually. Communism is never done “right “ and never will. But the philosophy sounds good.

@wisersamson9000

2 жыл бұрын

So tell me, do you condemn the deaths capitilsm causes or only leftists economical orginizations?

@donnathedead7554

2 жыл бұрын

No offense to you but, it is very ignorant to believe anybody supports this. They are probably supporting communism as defined by Marx who invented it, rather than the dictatorships who used the word to gain power. In the U.S., it will be the same thing but, they will call it capitalism because that is the term more likely to lull the masses here. In reality, they are all some version of fascism, but nobody calls themselves that for obvious reasons. That is what has never worked and just keeps happening. Mostly because people fail to recognize it for what it is each time it starts happening again.

@MrDarudin

2 жыл бұрын

Capitalism is not an ideology. Communism is.

Heartbreaking but critical to understand. Thanks to everyone who produced this doc!

@magnetsoldiercephas331

8 ай бұрын

Yep. We have to know all the dirty details so we can avoid it in the future. Learn about and from it and you will know signs when things start going bad.

@baptizednblood6813

6 ай бұрын

Is this a bit comment? There’s another just like this from a different user

@jetteroheller

6 ай бұрын

@@baptizednblood6813 I’m not a bit.

Excellent documentary

The Great Leap Forward was a catastrophe followed by another catastrophe a few years later, the Cultural Revolution. Mao really knew how impose economic hardship and turmoil.

I lived in a food insecure family as a child, and it greatly affected me (and still does). To learn of this, and witness the testimony and videos of these people and their plight hurts my soul. Whether I agree or not with whatever ideology is irrelevant- human suffering is human suffering. May those affected find better times, and may those no longer with us find peace.

@johnanderson3022

Жыл бұрын

same. couldn't agree more.

@AR15andGOD

Жыл бұрын

whether you agree with whatever ideology is 100% relevant.

@stillcantbesilencedevennow

Жыл бұрын

@@AR15andGOD that's THEIR way of excusing the socialists, and maintaining their adherence to their sick ethos. Otherwise, why even mention it?

@THE_MOONMAN

Жыл бұрын

@@AR15andGOD sure if you're talking about the leadership. It's definitely relevant yes. But if you're considering the suffering of the people, it is not. They were lied to and misled. All with the intentions of sacrificing their present for a better future for their children.

@currentbatches6205

Жыл бұрын

"Whether I agree or not with whatever ideology is irrelevant- human suffering is human suffering..." Unless, as in this case, the ideology is the direct cause of the suffering.

I feel sick seeing so much injustice!

@cindyhuang7021

Жыл бұрын

says the person who has actully never even seen what actul injusticeis actully like in the real world

@conanthegreat4418

Жыл бұрын

It's beginning now, in America, with this Marxist takeover through Joe Biden and his Frankfurt School minions. First thing to go is the supply chain. You see tremendous shortages everywhere which is connected to the administrations REFUSAL to expand American gas & oil production. Now, the Communists are burning down food production facilities all over the country, and Black Lives Matter, a self-professed Marxist organization, basically controls the narrative everywhere.

It's the nature of authoritarianism to have disastrous consequences. Huge mistakes happen when no one is allowed (or encouraged) to speak truth to power.

@edcottingham1

Жыл бұрын

And the freedom to freely speak the truth is under furious assault today in America. And our government is absolutely Orwellian in its lies about, well, everything.

So grateful my grandparents left there and came to the best country in the world! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

This is by far the most saddistic man-made disaster in human history after ww2.

@JLKB-1947

2 жыл бұрын

Mayank Anand . Very well said .

@adamruiz6460

Жыл бұрын

@Bob Shingles not even close. Like wtf even is that comparison???? You really compare an entire country being starved to death to a disease outbreak. Literally shut up

@kenneth9874

Жыл бұрын

There was a similar situation in the Ukraine under stalin

This should be part of school curriculum to show what central planning and centralized power results in

Thanks!

I’m an American in my 40s. I knew things were bad but this is unimaginable. How do these people with no regard for human life achieve power over and over?

@Exposingyou

Ай бұрын

You answered your own question. The lack of regard for others means anything is on the table to get to the top. Those who have a decent heart wouldn’t be able to bring themselves to do half the evil and underhanded stuff required.