Why do people always forget the time between slavery and today, we had a strong family unit

@demetrie94

Жыл бұрын

Yes, we did have a strong family unit-especially in the US, we had the highest marital rates. But, respectfully, we need to also examine the entire 19th and 20th century circumstance. After 1877 [in the US], we had the Nadir (Tillman-Hayes Act, mob lynchings, Plessy v Ferguson), Jim Crow Laws (vagrancy laws, loitering, etc), neighborhood terror (Red Summer, the bombing of Tulsa, etc.), Separate and Unequal Public Education, Housing Discrimination (convent laws; which was the primary wealth generator in the US), the emergence of mass incarceration in the 1970s, cointelpro and militarized policing, The War on Drugs, The 1990s Crime Bill… There is a genealogy of oppression. Surely, we can do better as a people but we must also recognize that even when we encourage personal responsibility amongst our people, we need to be mindful that there are structures of repression. I love my people and I love this content. But, I’m very concerned with how much history y’all don’t know. By the way, I am a trained doctoral scholar in English and Black Studies; I hope my comment is humbly accepted.

@infallibl

Жыл бұрын

Thomas Sowell truly helped me break out of this generic lefty, woke, victimisation mentality.. He was the one that highlighted a clear period in time when African Americans were married at a higher rate than whites at the time. POST SLAVERY.

@housegoth

Жыл бұрын

@@demetrie94 and yet somehow in spite of all those things the black family unit was strong up until LBJ passed the welfare act and the government literally started paying women to destroy families.

@jj51424

Жыл бұрын

@@demetrie94 It was. Thank you for your shared perspective.

@marshallduvall4251

Жыл бұрын

Between the end of slavery, all the way up to the 80's black people were married at a rate of 80% ! Welfare, feminism, and the "I'm a independent woman !" LIE , killed that !

Our community be making excuses

@TheJay37

Жыл бұрын

She's playing the victim. The blame game. If you play the victim, you will never progress in life. FACT!

@kingtchala6832

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely

NO MA'AM! you seperated yourselves from us!

@globalismoblackman

Жыл бұрын

Yeah she is deflecting about BM accountability, she is going back to "slavery" to make excuses for dysfunctionality.

Pointless to have wmn on these panels lmao it always turns into a "MeN dO iT tOo!" song

@ax5260

Жыл бұрын

fr I prefer when he was making the solo videos. theres no reason to ever debate girls on anything related to dating cos nothing will change on their side

@TheMegatron673

Жыл бұрын

they always try to shift the blame to men when the topic is about them. 🤨

@TheMegatron673

Жыл бұрын

like when black women complain about the men they had a child with who isn't doing right. YOU were involved in making that child too.

Accountability is kryptonite.

During and after our enslavement we were more together, women took ourselves away from the family for money and the want not to be told anything and to be able to say I'm doing me and be independent all whilst living in a council house and claiming CSA , rather than have the father in the home .

@willcampbell8829

Жыл бұрын

Marriage rates in the 50's/60's would strongly support your assertion unlike the woman in this clip claiming victimhood and absolving women of any responsibility for their life choices.

@j-us-t_be-in-g

Жыл бұрын

It's the structure that promotes that, and us blacks are struck in this because that's all we know because we've been comditioned to this.

@PyromancerRift

Жыл бұрын

There were no enslavement in the UK. She is in the UK, but she talk about america....

@marcuslarwa9098

Жыл бұрын

@@j-us-t_be-in-g people have been talking about how detrimental single motherhood is for over 25 years and it’s getting worse instead of better. That’s not conditioning that’s black women not wanting to be told anything. I’m sorry but if someone told me I had 75% chance my parachute wouldn’t open guess what I wouldn’t go ski diving.

"The Media" doesn't just do whatever it wants, it produces what sells and what they would like people to learn to accept. Our community is allergic to accountability; we accept those illnesses that "the media" can inflict but without a demand for it there wouldn't be a supply of it. Also women are the primary consumers of media TV, music, movies, books, social media etc. so songs like "no scrubs" were made, and kept being made, because that's what the famale consumer base wanted to hear. Stop the cap.

@j-us-t_be-in-g

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you.

@314jrock

Жыл бұрын

100% Truth

@Wraith3100

Жыл бұрын

It’s not Our Community, it’s a certain group within the community that is destroying it

@marcuslarwa9098

Жыл бұрын

@@Wraith3100 if we now know that growing up in a single parent household is detrimental to a child’s development then why are black women continuing to do it at an alarming rate. This isn’t something we’ve just figured about either, people have been saying it for the last 25 years and instead of getting better it’s actually getting worse. So it isn’t just a certain group, it’s a large majority.

Did you know it stays around 75 degrees year round in Medellin...🤔

Black women don't get bashed

Her: The media plays the song all day every day..... Me: the media can't play the song if you don't make it (bites plum)

@barry963

Жыл бұрын

And last I checked there is music for everyone...

I identify as a black, so I feel their pain

Victim Olympic medal winners.

@TheJay37

Жыл бұрын

People, learn something from this panel. Don't play the victim, don't blame other people or races for your situation. If you want to progress in life and move forward, get away from the victim mentality.

"Black women bashing" is the most feeble, weak, get out clause generic response I've ever heard. Its simply a child like immediate response to scrutiny.. "You're picking on me".. I never buy that rubbish..

Remember Chris Rocks' stand-up where he said stop blaming the media?

How this grown ass old woman is going to say black men left as if it wasn't the women who choose to kick them out the house with the feminist movement bull crap.

@nataliemorgan8742

Жыл бұрын

Lol, you can't be kicked out of your own home - the law would not be on your side. So logically, you can only conclude that the man never owned the house in the first place, or they CHOSE to leave.

Tell that media bs to the women in my family. I didn’t need the media to let me know that black woman are unruly.

Yes it’s true that both blank women and men get bashed but the difference Is there’s day time talk shows dedicated to giving women voices to bash men but when men speak on women there’s whole campaigns to cancel them

Stop blaming the media all the time! No one is forcing you to listen to what's on radio or watch what's on TV. Read books!

@globalismoblackman

Жыл бұрын

Exact is always someone else "fault" 😂🤣😂

@braskabani8011

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Accountability successfully dodged.

That was a great point bringing up that stand up from Bill Burr. If women cared about women's basketball all the money will be thrown over there but it's not it's housewives shows and Love & hip Hop that gets all the money. The media doesn't tell people what the like The media gives people what they want so they can make their money. So black women blaming the media is ridiculous because women RUN the media

She is crazy, she is talking about an AMERICAN phenomenon in the UK, with a british accent. Hillarious.

With a lot of black women I have experienced everything has to be a argument.

Welfare took the blackam out of the home far more than anything else.

There's never been a better time in society to be black!that's a fact

Beyonce made me do it

Who is to blame for hearing a song 35 times a day? Well, let me ask you this luv, who is in control of your radio/ phone/ tv/ cb radio being on that channel?

Your a great moderator sir

...MAN Bashing Songs were Made an Anthem, by the women

At 11:20 mark he's absolutely wrong. A lot of rappers spoke about relationships twenty years ago- for example Method Man Break Ups 2 Make Ups and Ghostface Killah- Neva Be the Same Again & Back Like That. The difference is that back then these songs were blk ppl talking about their relationships in general with someone of the oppostie sex who obviously happened to also be blk. The difference now is the incidence of blk men and women openly bashing each other by race, online for everyone else to see.

I'm hearing lot of 'Zaddy doesn't think I'm beautiful like Zadette, so I'm angry', but they not ready for that truth.

We’re never going to get to the start of it because women will forever push the goalposts. Therefore… until accountability is taken into consideration. We will forever run around in circles.

The girl in the black has clout sound arguments right or different doesnt matter she has brains

Poor light skinned guy in the middle didn't feel comfortable speaking on anything until the conversation became more general. 😂😂😂

The media, who are they though?

What a host, his finger is straight on the pulse. Straight shooters no bs

"I get bashed" So.... that's the excuse you want to use for your bad behavior ? That's the exact same EXCUSE, school shooters use ! I was bullied, so I act out ! Bad excuse !

Damn- Black women the UK dont take ACCOUNTABILITY either!!!

ASWELL, TOOO, NOT ALL, ITS BOTH, NOT ONLY, NOT JUST US, BUT REMEMBER, I love these conversations but the above really derails,distract and takes away from the point. Its make something said a 3 mins thing into a 9 mins thing 😅 Truth is we’re wrong but we got to much pride to be checked especially in public and perhaps at all 👀

@allendixon7700

Жыл бұрын

I tell the man all the time you need to just think of the girl that you're going out on this date with I'll see has is a sausage sucker and then that's what you will not be disappointed I mean what do you expect from a sausage sucker?

Record labels definitely grease DJs hands a little bit. But a bad tune is still a bad tune.

With the things that happened th BM during slavery, wouldn’t it make sense that BM would have more of an attitude

if black people didn't support certain songs on the radio, the radio wouldn't play those songs. the "media" plays songs that the people want the most 2 make the most money. it's up 2 the black people listening n support. these women don't take accountability 4 the songs they twerking to

Black women get “bashed” the most? Maybe because your the most masculine women.

These chicks are perfect examples of why their in this situation. They will not except anything their told and just keep passing the blame. We live in a capitalist society so whatever is getting the most eyeballs is going to be played and video in the media and on the radio.

Lols

But men… every female response when they feel attacked.

She very masculine

The tradition of slavery is still alive in Africa.

7:10 nah it is bashing bro, black ppl always have to specify “black men this, black women that” we the only ones to do that. When Suffragettes was outchea black men and women were seen as lesser, but you never here them specify that it’s white men they are on to, it’s all men, but we always specify like joke men.

Mg what have they had to go thru?? Please explain…

The difference is that male "rappers" are rapping out the 304's that they deal with. 304's that are only flocking to them because these rappers have the clout and "bling." So these 304's just spread the cheeks, get nasty, and don't care about it. But the women rappers are talking about not giving "scrubs" and "ain't s**t n****s" no respect. Most of those guys are are made up of regular 9-to-5 Joe's with regular jobs. They are getting dissed for not being a millionaire, or having scammer wealth, or being a thug with money and "bling." These songs are talking most regular men down, and talking up hustling men out of their material things. And in the end talk up wanting to get smashed by the thugs. That is attacking regular men, and glorifying the material thugs. While the male rappers are talking about actual thugs dealings, and the 304's that come knocking for some cheek busting. They are not talking about average regular women. And only very recently have these male rappers started to mention these "modern women bag 304's" and being 304's too. They are not bashing randomly. They are pointing out very direct specific scenarios. While the women rappers are openly bashing all men (especially if they are just regular average working men). That's a big distinction.

BW are getting theirs because they always have so much to say

All the men i know take care of their kids

...slavery HAD a part..Butt..WHY are they STILL doing it, IF YOU NOW KNOW 🤷🏾‍♂️

lol TLC did scrubs not Destiny's Child ..... these people are too young lmao

Idc if ur not a virgin I’m not waisting my time like period 😂😂

Buts let’s face it black women are aggressive

@jonathancharles3719

Жыл бұрын

Facts

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Black women see more criticism bc they respect their men the least. 3:59

Slavery 😭🎻

no, little girl. YOU choose to leave 70-90% of the time. ;)

Excuses one after the other smh, The media has nothing to do with a person's disgusting behaviour, lack of self respect, principles and values, Stop talking about slavery because the vast majority of us are not and will never be slaves nor we will never know what it feels like to be one. The victim mentality needs to stop. Furthermore most Caribbean people are not traditional anymore.

West indies can't compare with aboriginal Americans

Annoying panel, none of these women takes accountability and you guys should’ve pressed them more on that

9:52 Donny trying so hard to be right, the woman’s right bro the media does come into play

Masculine but still can’t take accountability

Wasn’t slavery abolished over 150 years ago? But she is saying that today’s problems are coming from “programming” from slavery times? Damn strong programming if it didn’t wear off for century and a half (how many generations?) How long does it take to break free from programming from those dark times?

@giorgikartvelishvili4527

Жыл бұрын

@@tangerinespirit3432 None of what is said in any of these broadcasts is “my business” per se. That’s the beauty of social media to learn about others and react / comment. Otherwise, it would be a private discussion and not on KZread.

@amariantiquity8543

Жыл бұрын

@@giorgikartvelishvili4527 Study of Epigenetics and the affects of extreme psychological & physical trauma from hudreds of years of slave conditions can be passed down into the blood & DNA of offspring into future generations. You can't expect a people who only have been afforded Civil rights (Jim Crow) ended in 1964 less than 3 generations removed. You are ignorant to this situation, I'd advise you to do more research or stay out of the conversation entirely.

@housegoth

Жыл бұрын

The programming will not go away for as long as it’s seen as a way to extort power and resources. So long as it can be used as a shield to deflect accountability.

@giorgikartvelishvili4527

Жыл бұрын

@@amariantiquity8543 Thanks for your input, always good to have a feedback. In your opinion how much longer will it take for effects of this legacy to wear off? I just now from my history that we kept on fighting our much more numerous enemies attacking us from all sides, but never complained, or used it to justify our own weaknesses.

@virgilsebaa3660

Жыл бұрын

Shoa was 70 years ago but you will NEVER hear this argument in media.Guess why?

None of these people are black

Slavery ended 150+ years ago... Why was the black community doing BETTER by every metric ~100 years ago before the civil rights movement and the welfare state? Because it removed accountability.

@jonathancharles3719

Жыл бұрын

Yh true but what happened whenever they were gud they got attacked look at the Tulsa attack in the USA

@cortezwatson9212

Жыл бұрын

Because meat was 1 cents a pound in the u.s

Because most of them are loud and have bad attitudes