Do you like Atlanta with superspeedway racing?

@muhammadwahyuhidayat21498

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I'm gonna say yes

@reneemarzovilla6173

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Yes

@cptncrzy8617

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Yes

@4_14_fan

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No

@alejandroespino9831

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Yesss

I want to see how the cars would race with 670 HP spacer instead of 510 hp spacer at Atlanta.

@jimbosc

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If it losing enough grip they may switch to the higher HP spacer - but that is probably several years out.

I remember Kurt Busch said something about "running unrestricted." Once safety improves in these cars I'd love to see them experiment with running the current short track package, if the racing doesn't improve with the ST package, then just let em rip around Atlanta with the intermediate package.

@racegrubb2152

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Well they are still safer than Indy car and yet Indy car run 230 at indy

I’d like to see what some horsepower would do. Track wore out pretty fast last repave, I think it would be interesting

I used to really not like Atlanta because of the extremely worn surface and dreaded. I'm not a big fan of the pack racing, but I like that this track encourages attrition, and if the racing gets more spread out due to the surface aging, we could probably see 1970's type racing; which I really look forward to.

@matto5547

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I do not understand how you hold the opinion you expressed in the first sentence.

@deannelson9565

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@@matto5547 because he's exactly like most race fans which is that shit was boring! The style of racing at Atlanta now is vastly more entertaining to watch than that goddamn one car after the other procession that is the complete fucking definition of boring mile-and-a-half bulshit!

What your suggesting scares me. The hybrid plate racing/intermediate racing sounds like the shit racing we got with the 550hp package.

@polycube868

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It's what they probably wanted the 550 package to race like

As an Indycar fan in addition to NASCAR, the current set up of Atlanta all but rules out Indycar ever racing there because there is no way the current crop of Indycar drivers would want to race there given the speeds that could be achieved (essentially it would be exactly like when CART tried to race at Texas in 2001). This despite the fact that Indycar needs more ovals on its schedule. The only way Indycar could race in Atlanta is at Road Atlanta which is one of the best road courses this country has.

I think you nailed it. We are already seeing that handling matters at AMS and as the surface begins to age and lose grip, that's only going to continue. What we might end up with is the old 70s-00s era Daytona/Dega type races where sure the draft was an important aspect but you had to have your car handling well in order to go fast. It wasn't just luck, there was very much some skill involved. That'd be great. The other possibility is that we do end up with some sort of hybrid track or the sport decides to go back to unrestricted racing on the track and we get really fast racing where multiple grooves are an option again. Nobody really knows for sure, but there's nothing wrong with AMS being what it is right now. I don't want every 1.5 going this route for sure. But AMS in its current form is fine.

Josh Williams is my hero. They told him to park his car and he did so, on the Start/Finish line. Give him the championship right now.

@beatlessteph

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I mean hey, he did what he was told to do by nascar.

@MR23268

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Not to be the stick in your mud but they actually told him to “take it to the garage”

To be fair, the style of racing now at Atlanta is almost like the early-mid 2000s plate racing but with a smaller bubble between cars, you can make moves, going 3 wide will make you looser than a 2 dollar hooker, and there are huge runs that can generate but a skilled leader can find ways to stall out the cars behind. I’m just happy the drivers can pull out of line and actually make spots up and not instantly fall back making a completely one line race

Honestly the second stage looked a lot like 2006-2008 Daytona , witch I really liked

Personally I was at this race this weekend and those last couple laps were one of the best finishes I have ever seen.

@sand4488

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same

@corvetteracing4

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Super speedway style on the mile 1/2 is growing on me. The racing is close!

It makes no sense why they would reconfigure the track to have less banking than Talladega and Daytona if they were aiming for sustainable pack racing. It would need to have the highest banking of any NASCAR track. They're going to have to start slowing the cars down when the track loses grip to keep this style of racing going. It's going to be a rough next 10 years with this track until they finally give up on the pack racing and attempt more traditional intermediate racing again.

THE ENGINE COMMENT! Someone finally said it. Low HP would be more bearable if it was an engine made for low HP, not a high HP engine choked down to what we have!

@Thraser999

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Next engine nascar makes will be a small thingy that makes little over 500hp for all the tracks...

The race this weekend totally changed my mind on this reconfiguration. I was bitching about how I did not think it was possible to run a whole race on this track without it looking like, well, the Xfinity race. I wouldn't say Sunday was the most fun I've ever had watching stock car racing, but it was everything it needed to be to shut me up. They proved they can run a clean, competitive race on it. And as much as I always want more racing, 400 is the way to go here. In the future I think if they want to optimize the racing, they probably have to tune the package up a little differently, but whatever the case I hope they don't go chasing solutions or start trying to curate a specific kind of racing too quickly, and just let it run and see how it goes.

@anubiam3004

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"They can", I'd be careful using those words to change your mind. They can make it through Daytona and Talladega without wrecking but we all know how that usually ends. I think the video nails the intrigue with how this track is going to evolve. Atlanta seems to have horrible wear to the track surface for some reason. It is not difficult to imagine that the grip needed to race side by side in a pack probably isn't going to last much longer. The Xfinity guys showed that the track can still be a total disaster. Hopefully that was just a case of way too much inexperience on the track at one time.

As a fan this race entertains me and I want to see something different and this is definitely different so for those complaining about bunches of crashes happening in lower series, that's what's happens when you put kids on a track that haven't raced it. Leave it to the cup guys to show how it's raced. They are the best in the world for a reason

I think in the next couple of years, they're going to take the restrictor plates/superspeedway package off of the cars, and have them race around the current configuration with the full horsepower package. (Wishful thinking of it going back to 750 or even 900) The mock superspeedway thing seems to be working for the short term, but I think eventually, it's going to crack through the thick, empty skull of someone in NASCAR's executive team, "Hey, maybe we should listen to the drivers." And we'll have probably the best Intermediate Track in NASCAR.

One thing I learned from listening to an episode of MRN Classic Races is that the oval Atlanta I think was 27 degrees at one point. I don’t think pack racing will last as it ages and they will have to switch it back to the intermediate aero package. I think it will age into a better version of old Atlanta.

@RyGuy8989

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Banking was 24 degrees on both the old Atlanta layouts. It’s 28 degrees now.

The July race this year is gonna be ran under the lights

I think your right. As the track wears. Handling will come into play more and more. I think the packs will become more and more split up.

This race was way better than the last couple Daytona and Talladega races. We even had 3 wide racing, something you don’t ever see anymore at other super speedways. I hope the loud minority doesn’t ruin this new track. This racing will help grow the fans and money. There is a reason Daytona and Talledaga are so popular with fans. Fans are only angry with those types of races when there favorite driver gets wrecked out. If Chase Elliot was racing and won, people would have loved it.

The 670 hp package 📦 might be pretty good on this layout once the track ages & loses grip. I hate pack racing so I can only hope 🤷‍♂️

Since the premise of pit road speed is safety for the crews going over the wall, I'd like Nascar to point out what crews are in turn 3. Creeping along at 35mph while mere feet away are cars at full speed is beyond stupid.

Tbh, I’d like to see it be/race like a 2005-2007 Daytona race. The downside is this “raced” like the 2016 Daytona 500, where the 5 JGR cars (yes Furniture row was a JGR clone GET OVER IT!) and dominated the race, they controlled the race, simple as. It was 2 lines except bottom was dominant then, quite similar to that race point heing

last year atlanta was my favorite track i absolutely loved both races that it put on this year the middle of the race was pretty boring single file but that happens at daytona and talladega it’s just kind of comes with super speedway racing so it’s not the tracks fault. it’s my favorite race this year and i can’t wait for the summer race

Any track Brad and Chris are good at has my thumbs up. Double thumbs up if it's a track Goaty Ware can keep his car on lead lap.

The way the surface is aging, I think if they keep the restrictor plates on all of the races will be like the 2022 xfinity spring race, small drafting groups that can break away from each other but still utilize draft.

I look at Atlanta as the super speedway where handling matters matters as much as it did in the early 90’s late 80’s. It should break up the large pack racing up a bit. I still prefer the dog peg Atlanta. Been a fam since 94 Season, weird yo see Atlanta in its 3rd iteration, heezus time flies

Prediction: Atlanta will become the most aero tight track on the calendar in the next 4 years. You can follow, but not pass because all the lead driver needs to do is take your line so you are forced to lift in the corner.

@tstuff1213

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The new cars have kind of changed that. The air is so much cleaner behind them if this was the gen 6 I agree. But the Gen 7 is pretty slick

@tamezzodiac2862

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@@tstuff1213 not true. The air is worse with the gen 7 because of how spec and similar they are.

@crocidayle

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​@@tamezzodiac2862 That's literally not true at all. The dirty air effect is diminished a lot by the diffuser

@tamezzodiac2862

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@@crocidayle yes it is because even if it is way less the cars are so similar that it makes any small amount of dirty air extremely bad. It's true. The way you improve dirty air is when cars are less similar to each other. When teams actually have adjustments they can make. The teams need areo adjustments. Sure, you can take away dirty air and it helps some my removing areo, but now we are at a point where no amount of areo you take off will fix it. The last car we at least could take the spoilers down and it helps significantly until they killed the balance in 2017 and took too much off. No one has realized dirty air is something that never will go away. The reason it used to not be as big of a issue though years ago is because every car was different from panels to even the set ups. Teams had so many options and so teams made downforce in different places then others. Teams also combined that with mechanical grip. Once the cars got more similar we saw this slow incline with teams kinda maxing out their abilities of what they can do with speed so the gen 6 kinda lost a ton of mechanical grip because you couldn't really make the areo work with it. Now with the gen 7 the cars have mechanical grip so easy to achieve that there is a huge limit there, and then they are all so similar that it made the issues the gen 6 has a million times worse. It's gonna keep getting worse the more teams learn too. Dirty air doesn't have to be looked at as this negative thing. Actual, when used properly it can be an advantage. Making cars handle worse in clean air then dirty air would be the real step in the right direction, instead of actually trying to eliminate physics that are not possible to get rid of. The teams need more freedom. They are in a extremely tight box, and when anyone finds an advantage they will run away with the wins because no one can really catch up unless they figure out exactly what that team is doing. Managing a car needs to matter again and that easily can be achieved if teams are pushing the limits again. We have really not many natural dnfs anymore and these races with the lengths are so pointless because saving ur stuff means nothing. Tires also mean nothing and unfortunately haven't even back when we had 15 inch rims. Good year doesn't make good tires, and u can't make a good oval tire out of a 18 inch rim. There was way more play with a smaller rim. Saying the dirty air is not worse tho is a lie because in terms of actually size and stuff it is not as bad, but in terms of how sensitive the cars are too it, then I don't think we have ever been this bad with areo sensitivity. Sure, stuff like pinching a guy down and spinning them is gone, but I've seen many of times a guy behind a guy and just crash cause they got areo loose with the diffuser, or how hard it is to pass now. It's never been harder.

No matter what happens to the track, the thing that still hurts me is the fact that they took SO MUCH track width out all around... I will never understand that

@michaelcausey17

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When adding banking you kind of have to unless you want to rebuild the entire turn. Think of it as a triangle, you had to shorten the hypotenuse to have a higher angle of banking.

As someone who has been twice to the new Atlanta Motor Speedway and also some biased as a Kevin Harvick fan, I prefer old Atlanta.

Yes, I've attended races in all three configurations. I'm enjoying this one the best. I think your right in your observation though.

I've always liked the Atlanta races. They're just generally a lot of fun and I'd highly recommend someone who doesn't know a lot about NASCAR watch an Atlanta race if they're interested. I don't think it really needed to be reconfigured, but it definitely needed to be repaved, and I like what they've done with it.

I like the idea of it being a hybrid track, I feel like it would be an interesting watch, but nascar needs to leave things alone and make minimal changes to the track and the package in order for it to come in like that

You made a valid point. These engines were NOT designed to be neutered like this. No one seems to care though.

_"If it's not a wreckfest, we're all shocked."_ And that's sad. NASCAR is still chasing the crash lovers & ignoring *racing* fans... :(

@brandynhenry7107

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Crashes aren't very entertaining when you are shocked you don't see one. There was a time nascar both had pack racing and you weren't sure everyone was going to hold. That tension unloading if it did is what made the crashes entertaining. There's no tension building when I watch modern plate/pack racing because I 100% expect it to happen. One of 9000 things nascar suits have no understanding of their own sport

I'm in the group that prefers the way Atlanta raced before the reconfiguration. The repave was necessary, but the changes were not what I wanted to see. The cup race was really stagnant in the middle portion, but at least things picked up near the end. If I recall correctly, for the summer race last year the cars were super loose as one would expect in the heat, and I remember thinking it was a better race as a result. I'm curious to see if that will be the case again this year.

Believe it or not, I currently have that chunk of fender that came off and caused all that. He even signed it before we took it home, it's the coolest Nascar souvenir I've ever seen.

Give Josh Williams his cheddars

They should’ve kept the old profile and redid Texas to what Atlanta is now

Great video

Best time i've ever had at my home track was this past sunday. been going for about 5 years and this was the first ATL SuperSpeedway race I've been too. Huge turn out. It was fun. There was a crowd. Don't love that they did the conversion, but i can't say it didn't improve my experience.

Josh Williams redefining “PARKED IT”.

@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT

Жыл бұрын

NASCAR told him to park it and he did ;)

A high number of fans, possibly even the majority: Yea we like new Atlanta it's pretty cool The Iceberg: Yea but here's why you shouldn't!

Let's run it with the Intermediate package and see how the cars do.

4:30 I was at the second Atlanta race last year and it was the best experience ever as the race always felt like I needed to be recording should something happened and provided a great finish

Went to the July race last year. Despite it being a scorcher the race was pretty darn good with mostly double wide racing. Of course the downside was those massive wrecks but overall really cool racing. Hopefully this track will age well and bring some more pretty cool races in the future. Hopefully no more freight train shows lol.

Joey said thecars were bolted down , thats why they can push the snot out of each other🤘🏼🏁

I like it. I've hated having another super speedway so near me. I live near Talladega. So I'm was upset that the only 1.5 I could go to, is now a super speedway race. Oh well, Sunday was pretty good. I plan on going to the night race in July.

Never been a fan of pack racing - but this has the potential to be closer to "old Michigan" once the surface ages. Once they have to go to a non-superspeedway tire that wears - handling will matter. Old Michigan had HUGE draft impact on the straights - then they fanned out on the turns only to come together again with draft assisted runs. I do think ATL could end up there as long as they don't monkey with the surface (PJ1, resurfacing, etc.)

Imagine if Pocono got turned into a super speedway, where you could have a 5-6 wide pack consistently. That front stretch already sees 8-10 wide on restarts.

Would love to see it worn and unrestricted. No idea what that'd look like, but I'd like to find out.

I would love if they did testing in the off season with the normal mile and half package there

SMI said the asphalt they used to pave Atlanta had much better drainage properties to prevent weepers and accelerate drying. I wonder if the porous property of the track has made it age faster in some ways. Might be beneficial for the racing long term

I enjoyed it in between the commercials.

The trioval wrecks are absolutely scary violent. Somethings probably gotta give there before someone gets killed. The cookie cutter mile and a half 3 part trioval doesn’t seem to lend itself to pack racing

great racing, a lot better than last time i was at the race

W background music

I would prefer if it was something like that. I know everyone liked the finish of the race but the first 75% of the race was 1 lane racing and was boring

I was at race last Summer. Great race. A mini Degga. Not sure what you watch.

i hope you are right, idc for pack racing its pretty boring if nothing is going on but then wrecks get annoying when its flip a coin to see who gets taken out

Fox earned a 1.95 rating and 3.422 million viewers for Sunday’s NASCAR race at new Atlanta, down from a 2.36 rating and 4.003 million viewers last year.

this track only has a problem with how slow it is being treated like a superspeedway. i’ve been there and it’s definitely an interesting track to see post repave. you can still see them slingshotting around each other. the fix is using the higher hp package

I think I’d be more open to this if my favorite track wasn’t Atlanta always looked forward for racing from the wall to the white line

NASCAR shouldn't wait until the track comes in. Either create more speed with the car (Make Atlanta and a few others trial races for a hybrid engine that does 750-800hp before going full time next year) or reduce handling (grooved tires, small ass spoiler or whatever else.) to make handling more of an issue. Making Atlanta a Daytona Jr ain't it.

Here's Atlanta for a team owner... 💵💵💵🔥🔥🔥

A lot of people are saying that it'll look more like pre-2010 Daytona-style racing and I can totally see that.

I dunno man. After Truex fell out of the top ten in the last stage he seemed to be stuck around 20th the rest of the race. Door Bumper Clear also was talking about it being hard to pass. In years past plate racing seemed to always have good amounts of sudden position changes and cars getting shuffled out but there was hardly any of that in this Atlanta race.

you may not like it and say most or everyone disliked it, but I wanted a repave and loved the idea of the new configuration. What we have now is awesome, and it'll just get better regardless of whether or not it is pack racing or just faster 1.5-mile racing

I am looking forward to seeing what this track will become and while I wasn’t a huge fan of the Atlanta racing on the old surface and I liked the first year racing this year’s was not good the last 40 laps were if they can find a way to make that happen the entire race it will be a great thing but if it goes the other way I will start hating this track like I did Auto Club but that’s my opinion

I’m alright with the reconfiguration to super speedway style racing. I didn’t mind the old Atlanta, but I really want the old oval Atlanta back.

People don’t understand that Josh wasn’t mad at the track he was mad at NASCAR, I talked to him on Sunday and he said NASCAR made him sit in there hauler until every other Xfinity team left the track. They didn’t let him have his phone or clothes to change data from the fire suit. Josh said that he really likes Atlanta because it gives him the ability to compete for a good finish in the car he drives.

this aged well...

I'm going to wait and see what happened with Atlanta motor speedway

Regardless of what you think, daytona/talladega have some of the best finishes in Nascar history and that’s a product of pack racing. Atlanta is gonna age so well.

I was just glad to only see a couple of crashes and to see them race for the win instead of crashing the whole field at the end. Maybe they can start doing that at Daytona and Talladega now but I doubt it lol

I had to rewind bc I got distracted by the Juice WRLD beat lmao

Nascar never give cup cars more power

Once the cars are safe no restrictor plate and drop the yellow line rule after the last pitstops

I wouldn’t be surprised if Atlanta goes to the standard package next year.

I like your idea but SMI wanted their own superspeedway. I believe they'll try to keep it as one as long as possible. I'm not a fan of Atlanta Superspeedway but don't hate it. Even with your proposed idea, Atlanta should still only have 1 date on the schedule.

Beloved homeland MIS!

I agree w/ the hybrid type racing AS LONG AS NASCAR ALLOWS IT AND DOESNT SAY, SHIT WITH THIS AND DIG UP THE TRACK AND TURN IT INTO A SHOPPING MALL……

Kinda odd opinion of mine but looking at the clips you have in this video from last year and this year… I don’t like the dotted lines in the corners for this year compared to last year not having it.

I'm so excited for this track. Idc what the haters say

Atlanta is not a superspeedway. It acts like one, but that's only because the surface is only a year old and the track has more grip to allow that style of racing.

You so it was a move for entertainment purposes and I say that's a good thing. The product better be entertaining or there will be a lot of people who are out of a job.

God forbid there’s tight racing and low margin for error

i'd like to see a race there unrestricted

I wouldn't say it's the weirdest track, cause it's not flawless by any standards, but it's got a long way to go before the road becomes smooth again

It doesn't make any sense to me why Michigan hasn't worn in, since every other asphalt road in Michigan is full of potholes within 5 years. Whatever they did to that track, they need to do to the rest of the state's roads!!

I absolutely hate it. I fell asleep through it that's how boring it was. The best it could get would be a 2018 All-Star Race

The fans that love it don't love racing. They love crashing. A good race to those fans is a wreckfest. If the leader pulls away more than 1 second, the race is bad. It's not about actual racing to them. Just making sure everyone is super close and close to wrecking

I HATE, HATE, HATE the new pit road setup that's almost as long as an entire lap of the track itself. Why the hell did they set it up for drivers to enter pit road at TURN 3?

Only way to make the racing better, drop the superspeedway package and do the intermediate package (670 hp, 4 inch spoiler)

Kind of wished they made it the sister track to Homestead that it was in the 90s

@polycube868

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I'm hoping they end up doing that to Texas.

Thought the first two races were better than the most recent.

I like atlanta as it is now, the track is a lot more fun to watch. before the reprave it was a absolute snooze fest. Now every race at Atlanta is fun to watch.

Track is definitely underrated

So who chose to put juice wrld in the background?