So the specialists in bf2 have cancer

@jfkquickscopes

Жыл бұрын

Yeah does Iden Versio have cancer because isn’t it part of her canon loadout

@darkmayhem1295

Жыл бұрын

@@jfkquickscopes probably lol

@hdudhehdhd2222

Жыл бұрын

Well ig u could argue those shields are much weaker than these since they break

@darkmayhem1295

Жыл бұрын

@@hdudhehdhd2222 that’s probably true and I wouldn’t doubt that they tried to shield themselves from the radiation in various ways but still pretty funny

@Voltaic_Fire

Жыл бұрын

It's why the game *is* cancer.

Battlefront 2 specialist stormtroopers take their helmets off to reveal their fallout ghouls from the shield....

@cinemasurge1851

Жыл бұрын

It’s not all shields is just the high damage soak and portability ones these droids use, otherwise planetary shields would be like nukes going off

@Janus-yv8zm

Жыл бұрын

They're*

@nuclearwinter5748

Жыл бұрын

@@Janus-yv8zm They are helmets? My man make sure you know for sure your correction is actually right

@Janus-yv8zm

Жыл бұрын

@@nuclearwinter5748 Check your correction of my correction before you check my correction, I was correcting the second "their" in his comment.

@nuclearwinter5748

Жыл бұрын

@@Janus-yv8zm I see, walking off the nearest cliff face now for that embarrassing fault of mine

Meanwhile my character in KOTOR getting diagnosed with radiation cancer from the shields

@TheMandaloreFett

Жыл бұрын

A fellow of culture. Well met.❤

@DanteV42

Жыл бұрын

its like lead or mercury. used to be common since it was thought to be safe but cast out of its respective industry once people found how dangerous it is

@Viperzzzzzz

Жыл бұрын

Oh! You’re a blaster user? Sorry lemme turn this shit on rq

@OfficialYondoth

Жыл бұрын

Wouldnt they also technically reflect or absorb the radiation depending on the thoe of shield?

@Tm-dn9ob

11 ай бұрын

Weren’t those shield made of different material that became depleted later on

I thought the main reason was energy related. The Droidkas were able to house shield generators because they were given stronger batteries albeit put out more radiation. Where personal shields had safer batteries but could only withstand a few hits before needing to cycle a recharge.

@Jorunic

Жыл бұрын

Iirc that's why Scorponek droids are so rare, because of the sheer expense needed to make them because of the energy shield and why you see more armor plating rather than shielding.

@elijahalexander5297

Жыл бұрын

I remember this being more the explanation too. But hey New Star Wars is acting like a genophage for everyone to burn down the old and give creation to new things…like REY!!!

Droidekas were terrifying for more reasons than just their shields and lasercanons. They were also heavily armored and we're fast VERY fast.

@thalmoragent9344

Жыл бұрын

Facts. Fast, heavily armored, heavily armed, and shielded

@thimovijfschaft3271

Жыл бұрын

@Broskisnowski not really you can see blasterbolt reflect of its armor

@jamesbarnett8832

Жыл бұрын

​@@thimovijfschaft3271 which is why legion makes me sad that droideka are so squishy once the shields die

@nowwhat9053

Жыл бұрын

​@@jamesbarnett8832 Yup...Cuz it's could be overkill

@jamesbarnett8832

Жыл бұрын

@@nowwhat9053 damn it amg, MAKE MY DEKAS USEFUL

Lol I felt so bad for the clone who had a flamethrower and was face to face with the Droideka.

@RomanvonUngernSternbergnrmfvus

Жыл бұрын

Should have let the pyro trooper have the flamer, one of these clones must have been too close to the light source in the test tube. The droids thinking they made the right call only to hear the trooper cackling and saying “burn” would have been dope.

They also sucked up energy like a sponge, usually only got a few seconds of use whether the shields took bolts or not

@AVATARComander

Жыл бұрын

I remember reading a description like that in a book on starwars weapons and technology

Republic commandos make use of full personal shielding tailored to hug their armor

@JeiPegOfARaptor

Жыл бұрын

So like the shields in halo? Were there any drawbacks to their shields cuz how come they wouldnt give those to as many troops as they could

@nicholaswong6737

Жыл бұрын

@@JeiPegOfARaptor extremely costly and had to be modified genetically/implants to operate their armor to full effectiveness. So yeah kinda like halo on a more tame scale.

@JeiPegOfARaptor

Жыл бұрын

@@nicholaswong6737 oh so it was just extremely specialized for the commandos, so you say implants so like if a commando from one squad wore the armor of a commando from another squad would the shield not work or would it not matter

@nicholaswong6737

Жыл бұрын

@@JeiPegOfARaptor the armor would work. They’re the exact same people genetically after all, so trading armor and weapons was easy since you only needed one size for your whole army. The logistics behind everyone being the same means you can tailor all your armor, weapons, vehicles and training to fit one person making it more efficient.

@JeiPegOfARaptor

Жыл бұрын

@@nicholaswong6737 ok thought so, just wanted to clarify. Thanks for the info :]

This seems like a fun explanation as to why energy shields were so common in the Old Republic games but non-existent going into the High Republic era. It's like how we viewed cigarettes until we did some research and realized how bad they are for you.

@xSoulhunterDKx

Жыл бұрын

the shields probably have to get more powerful down the road considering blasters got stronger as well as fas as we know

@a0point0of0view1

Жыл бұрын

If I recall the old lore, the personal shields of the time were all disposable with integrated batteries and wouldn't produce radiation, with the exception of a few droid models which could have generators built-in given the fact droids could handle the radiation produced by the micro generators. Shields also fell out of fashion because more powerful blasters were being produced and shield tech was far more expensive, especially given how most were disposable You can have shields with generators that don't produce radiation but they'd be too bulky for personal use so they're only found on vehicles and fixed positions

Kotor 1&2, Dark forces 1&2, mysteries of the sith, jedi outcast, jedi academy, and a dozen other sw games would like a word about personal shields.

I imagine flamethrowers don't work against shields either. The gasoline should be ejected slowly to traverse the shield

@deaconpoole7577

Жыл бұрын

Flames actually penetrate Energy Shields perfectly fine (which is ironic considering Fire just being the release of energy through heat and light) But with that being said, Personal Bubble Shields appear to use Electro Magnetism of some kind, to create a field of Plasma-repelling (as well as kinetically charged metallic objects like hand grenades) energy. Or, in a more simple term, the Personal Bubble Shield can redirect Electro Magnetic energy, as well as metallic objects charged with Kinetic Energy. There’s obviously some exceptions, but that’s the general rule of thumb; Plasma Bolts and Grenades don’t work on the shields, but a primed grenade that is slowly passed inside the shield at low kinetic energy, or actual flames, or slugthrower rounds which are small enough to be able to penetrate the shield due to their relatively low Kinetic Energy to Mass ratio, all of those are left unaffected.

@MastemaJack

Жыл бұрын

If you have read Dune it's like the shields in that

The bigger issue from this scene is that they used jedi speed, and then no jedi ever used it again in the series...

@dirpyturtle69

Жыл бұрын

Because it’s extremely taxing to use and requires incredible amounts of energy.

@lokinakor1

Жыл бұрын

@@dirpyturtle69 uhhh.... it's overpowered... in the video games, it takes a chunk, but it's still worth doing against crowds

A buckler or armshield made with gungang plasma tech with a like rayshield for extra protection could be an incredibly strong and lightweight bit of personal protection.

Some Droidekas actually turned off their shields so they could run the extra power to their blasters either increasing the number of shot sent towards the enemy or making the shots more powerful, can’t remember which. They were selective about doing this though, if the were likely to receive fire they’d just leave the shields up.

Personal Shields are so everywhere in Star Wars. The ancient Echani were making safe dueling Shields for YEARS.

@CafeLiquerstreams

Жыл бұрын

Tbh after the reformation the Republic lost all its good technology

@dirpyturtle69

Жыл бұрын

That was before the dark ages equivalent to starwars. There were literally hundreds of years where technology regressed in the starwars universe, a lot of that technology is still lost even in the time of the new republic

@illogicalbear6200

Жыл бұрын

@@dirpyturtle69 yeah, but personal combat shields are still a thing, even in the new republic. Great example - Kyle Katarn

The shield generates were quite pricey.

@theborg5981

Жыл бұрын

I was about to bring this up. It's spacecraft level shielding shrunk down to cover a single organism/droid. That would drain a lot of credits from any buyers wealth

This will make a fine addition to my collection

_How are you powering that ray shield?_ _Portable battery pack?_ _You know those only have a battery life of only a few minutes?_ (Shield goes down) _Oh no._

Well… that explains a lot. I just figured that it had to do with the size of the shield generator. But that couldn’t explain the use of the small personal shields.

These guys looked Hella dangerous on Battlefront

Those bad bois right there, a battlefront (2004) players absolute nightmare to deal with.

GT: The Droidekas were terrifying Me:*Has PS2 Battlefront Flashbacks*

Maybe the kaminoans figured “these clone commandos won’t live long enough for their shielded armor to kill them”

Nobody in Naboo thought of exporting Gungun Shields?!

okay but you gotta address the personal energy shields in kotor and kotor 2

Clone commandos: “am I a joke to you?”

This is the first time I'm hearing of this. Like ever. Personal shields just took a lot of energy. That's really it. You'd need to carry extra energy cells for your shields. And that's weight you could use for weapons, mobility, or ammo.

Also the vibrations from personal shields attracted sand worms.

Destroyer Droids are extremely expensive to build as well. The personal deflector shield generators do exist in empire era, worn on a belt. With no radiation, but are not very strong and eat through power packs very quickly.

I never knew the deflector shields were radioactive ig you learn stuff about Star Wars every day

Nice fan in the background, I know the air in that room is circulating

You know the meme where a triangle-patterned tri-blaster can overcome a single lightsaber? They should have armed Droidekas with those.

Personal energy shields were literally everywhere in the Old Republic. Not mention the Mandalorians had shields that blocked weapons like vibroblades.

More like how come that scene in episode one was the only time we see force running

One Would think that Planetary shields would kill everything on a Planet then.

Don’t forget the energy shields Commando droids are sometimes shown with

Star Wars Battlefront characters: Haha, this is fine.

You know whats funny. Is Knights of the Old Republic, there were such things as Personal Shield Generators. Though with limited charges and only lasted for a limited time or after taking to much damage. Why such tech was abandoned in the thousands of years between The Old Republic and the Movies, I'm not quite sure.

Me and the boys when we know it really only takes 4 hits from a lightsaber to deactivate the shields

Good explanation. Kind of strange though that besides the gungans, these are people that could probably take a hit with their armor without the shield

@dallinadams9422

Жыл бұрын

Guess for them it is more to protect the head. Just wear your helmet!

I would've thought those kind of shields just took more battery to power Battery that would be too heavy and dangerous to carry around like that for infantry But why don't more tanks and vehicles just adopt these shields then?

@FShani

Жыл бұрын

Given that tie fighters were unshielded while rebel fighters were almost always shielded, it's likely the same issue of cost and power draw needed to shield the entire vehicle. And how expendable the men operating those vehicles were considered.

Didn’t the commando droids in the citadel episodes of the clone wars, have deflector shields?

We used to play the WEG Star Wars TRPG and this was our reasoning, too (I’m not sure if it was canon at that point).

Source? Energy shields are used in KOTOR, as well as by Republic Commandos on their Katarn armor.

What I always wondered why a Jedi couldn’t use the force to take out the droid’s power source or just switch it off.

Droideka probably the best anti infantry droid ever exist

Because it also requires a shield generator, gotta give it to grievous for being able to lift one up and toss it.

Always thought the droidikas were badass! I know the shield only allow things to pass through at a certain speed... Was it ever explained why the lasers fired from the blasters was the exception to this rule?

that begs the question why more droids dont have sheilds, seeing how absurdlh effective it was for the droidekas

Imagine an ig droid with a shield like that

(Laughs in Mk7 Mjolnir Armor)

@GenerationTech

Жыл бұрын

I can almost here the shield recharging

@GenerationTech

Жыл бұрын

Hear

we never really see a moving deployed overshield that I can remember. even the gungans had to stop before they deployed anything that wasn't unidirectional. you could make an argument for an AT-AT having one, but maybe that's why it was so slow.

Don’t get me wrong, I 100% believe that as an in universe explanation, but I also feel like it the writers choose not to make them common since they take away a lot of danger we find characters in. Radiation, power consumption are very good reasons but I feel like a small amount is writing.

So the snipers in battlefront 2 have canser?

The republic should've hire naboo to provide the army with gungan shields

Force crush says WHAT!!!!

Wasn’t the main problem the massive power draw the shields took? Droidekas had small power generators already built in by virtue of being a droid but for a person to carry a backpack sized generator would’ve been very cumbersome and expensive

Everyone got one in Kotor

If this were the case, why didn't every droid have a shield? The droid army would mow over any opponent. i would suggest another factor is that shields were voracious power hogs. If the droidika didn't defeat their target within a few minutes, they would run out of power and shutdown. Otherwise, why produce anything other than droidikas for your droid army?

@zacheryeckard3051

Жыл бұрын

The Droideka were bought with meat from a planet that was the only producer. They bought all they could afford.

except in "dark forces" a 1995 game for pc and its sequel a personal shield wasn't a problem :P

So what your saying is... The Empire should've kept the droidikas...

Republic Commandos had personal shields.

Just want to point out that you can see Obi wan and Anakin doing the speed thing in this

Same question you can ask about "Force Speed"

Surprised naboo main export isn't the shield tech if the safe

They also require a lot of energy to power them.

What about the shields used on Ringo Linda, that kind of shield could have cut republic ground casualties in half.

They used Force Dash!! Sweet!!

Good enough

We’re those two droidekas technically the ones who started everything?

They have shields. What I do not understand is the Droid fires lasers out of the deflector, but the deflector defends against the "light"saber?😮

No wonder Dooku was so keen on conquering Naboo. The material the gungans used for shields could have been applied to the droidekas thereby increasing their production. speaking of which, did the Empire do that? Naboo probably might have been part of the empire. There's no canon source to my knowledge that it was secretly rebelling like Alderaan was. Plus Padme was dead and Jar Jar went from representative of the Gungans on the Republic senate to a mere street performer in Theed. So it is unknown who was the next Naboo senator before the imperial senate was dissolved.

Now hear me out, hulk with a deflecter shield

They're also supposedly prohibitively expensive which is why the CIS didn't just use all droidekas and why they didn't use the scorpineks from book of boba fett

What about the Gunguns shield? Likely not same tech but pros and cons?

Slow cancer death or super fast blaster bolt death might make me want to have a shield just in case and only turn it on in emergencies

Cause if everyone got shields it would turn everybody into Spartans

Sev was spared from getting space cancer at least

Personal shields were also common in the Old Republic era, but where phased out eventually as improvements in blaster and disruption technology became better at defeating them.

What I'm sad about is that they don't use Vibroswords as often as possible instead of blaster rifles

what happened to the personal shield generators from the kotor era?

so then what about Ray shields? it was funny to me in rebels or the phantom menace when they got trapped in a ray shield circle and it kinda felt like "dangit, reflector shields we can deal with but these things are LITERALLY impossible even as jedi"

Explained in courtship of Princess leia

I thought it's like Dune's shields which vibrates too fast to the point where oxygen can't penetrate it

Jedi shield belts that used Khyber crystals, surprised more people dont talk about this from the books when Obi wan and Qui gon used em to escape.

Anyone remember when they didn't bolt off like a vampire? VHS version was so much better imo.

And the needed a ton of power to work

Just another examples of the Republic ignoring the adaptation of technology. Considering Naboo was in the Republic. They could have easily developed personal shield technology.

@FShani

Жыл бұрын

Considering it was primarily gungans using them they were likely harvested from the ocean floor making them a major environmental and diplomatic issue. Given their shape I wouldn't be surprised if they were even organic in nature, which would limit the amount that could be produced no matter how willing the gungans would be to accept trade deals for them.

Power up the fan fiction shields 😋😆

*rayshields, not defkector. Defkector shields also absorb physical damage like rockets, grenades, stones and fists, which is not the case for droidekas

So then why were deflector shields used to protect towns and armies multiple times in star wars cannon if they emitted so much radiation?

@FShani

Жыл бұрын

Different types of shield technology, that was the point being made here. Cheap radioactive shields that can easily cover an entire battle droid, expensive and power intensive non radioactive shields that could only be used sparingly or at great personal expense to a governor (some of the now non canon books even delved into how some Imperial governors would run secret blackmarket businesses to fund a shield capable of covering their base). Plus the gungan shields seemingly native to and possibly organically produced on Naboo, just to prove there are even more potential types of shielding technology out there.

Did clone commando armor have a type of shield built into it?

They were also very freaking expensive.

so you mean to tell me that the ships that have shield generators are straight up radioactive all the time?

Because if everyone had a personal deflector shield, the similarities to Dune would suddenly become too evident.

So then how do you explain the specifically addressed as “Droideka Style” personal shields in Battlefront 1 and 2? Somehow, the Republic, Empire, Rebellion, First Order, and Resistance all are just A-Okay with giving their soldiers cancer causing amounts of radiation? I think there’s more at play here than just “radiation”

@thediesel4280

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention just about every first person sw game has personal shields: kotor(1&2), just about every game where kyle katarn was a mc(about a dozen), jedi knight (outcast/academy) (exception of fallen order)

Republic Commandos?

It's not just because of the energy supply et cetera et cetera it's the interaction between the shield and elements impinging upon it

big part of it was that they were expensive

Do ship deflector shields work in atmosphere?