I really love how Ben comes on and just lets it rip. Good. Honest. Feedback. Love it.

This was by far the best Hodinkee radio episode in a long time. Loved to hear somewhat of an inside perspective on the performance of these brands.

I think the problem is that a time only watch with limited brand provenance for $50k is indeed just absurd. In fact, it’s absurd at $20k.

Love hearing Ben’s perspectives. I would also mention Chopard is under appreciated

Cleaning up the market translates to “buy up all excess inventory on the used market to prop up prices so you can push watches at retail to people who think watches are investments.” The problem is, if you buy a DB27 from the 1916 Co. for $85k and flip it over, you will see it’s not an $85k watch. It’s a 40k watch at best. Now you want to sell it and find out that no one will buy a rare indie at the price you paid and if you offer it to 1916 they give 40 cents on the dollar.

@user-dr5dx6ip8k

2 ай бұрын

market manipulation!!

The story of Seiko, quartz crisis, and grand seiko.

Would love a full episode on Lange to be honest. Having been around watches for around the same time as Ben I can really connect with his horological roller coaster 😂

"Why are some watch brands under-appreciated?" Shows Laurent Ferrier in the thumbnail. Bro, no one underrates Laurent Ferrier, it's just that it's too exclusive.

@ticklove1910

2 ай бұрын

not to mention EXPENSIVE!!

Why is Ben’s audio worse than my (not professionally producing Podcasts) recorded audio from AirPods?

Laurent Ferrier is one of my favorite brands. Such beautiful watches

Fun episode! I'd love to see a movie on Abraham-Louis Breguet.

Super interesting conversation.

Under appreciated is different from unattainable 😂

very exciting content, was great to hear these candid opinions in detail.

The Zenith El Primero story!!!!

Story of the Cartier brothers.

Anyone else feel as thought the Speedmaster has been over hyped for the past 5 years? And the Icing is that the Omega X Swatch ($270) is just confusing.... Even their own branding says, it's JUST like the Speedmaster. If anything, it's cheapened the allure. Why mess with an icon?

Because there are a lot of people who just blindly follow Hodinkee-hyped brands?

market share... would love to see what their consumer sell out base coverage.

For a period piece, a story about Breguet could be amazing. For a thriller/drama a sort of Brosnan Thomas Crown Affair vaguely based on the theft of the Marie Antoinette watch from the Islamic Arts museum could be great.

Baume & Mercier are defiantly an underrated brand!

The story of Florentine Ariosto Jones the IWC founder.

Ferrier needs to come up with something refreshing, he is playing too safe right now

LF will rocket on the secondary within the next 5 years. Great buy right now!

@BobbyDazzler888

2 ай бұрын

I dont think so. They have that boring look to them, worse than moser.

@charlesoliverburns

2 ай бұрын

@@BobbyDazzler888 that’s the whole point, simplicity is genius.

The story of Ben Clymer!!!!

nice

I'd love to see Laurent Ferrier make a slightly more attainable and modern classic micro-rotor and ramp up production for it. Make one in grade 5 titanium, with 50m of water resistance, Breguet numerals, and shrink the case size down to 37-39mm. This is how they become the modern man's Calatrava.The broader market will never choose a LF Sport Auto over a Royal Oak or Nautilus, but I think there's a good argument to be made that a more accessible LF Classic Micro-Rotor could draw people away from a Calatrava and Saxonia Thin etc.

Lf internal bevels and finishes bar none far exceeds Patek and secondary market is dirt cheep now… buy if you can late 2010s micro rotors for 25-30k crazy deal. I remember when journe watches were cheep on secondary times have changed.

I dont think you can compare Roger Smith to Laurent Ferrier when the LF movements are made by someone else and then only assembled in house. Too expensive and difficult to buy due to a lack of sales outlets.

LF is nice its over priced

@MFG1076

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. Why would you take a steel Classic Micro-Rotor over a steel Cornes de Vache with an extra $15K in your pocket?

@chia-mingyang5804

2 ай бұрын

Not everyone wants/needs a chronograph; also the dial proportion of Cornes de Vache is off for me.

Without the date window it would be classic. The date window just throws off the balance.

The market is calme now, of course its difficult for LF but except FPJ and ROLEX who is selling a lot of Watchers now ?! Lets talk about AP and co ...

Hodinkee is losing it’s independence and no longer hides it’s intentions to make as much money for themselves

@bobford7366

2 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with that. Even if they were deceitful about their intentions, it's up to us to use our critical thinking skills to decide what we do with that information. Further, it's just watches at the end of the day. Just entertainment.