Why are Pros NOT Using M4A4 in CS2? 🤔
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Have you used the m4a4 before? Did you think the m4a1-s was better? Am i right? Let me know what you think down below! 👇
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@toonorth1546
3 ай бұрын
fair enough
@nitesy381
3 ай бұрын
Did you steal this from someone Lysenko?
@PythonCS
3 ай бұрын
@@nitesy381 this is my content
@peksi507
3 ай бұрын
It just should kill with 4bullets body atleast close range
@Ashley_22k
3 ай бұрын
or you can just have both guns at the same price, which is at $2900
A1-S doesnt have anime women on it tho
@Agious46
3 ай бұрын
XD
@anon2969
3 ай бұрын
Yet…
@GraphsCS
3 ай бұрын
real
@mercce6750
3 ай бұрын
But said anime woman is freaking expensive so still more people use A1.
@kaiduwu
3 ай бұрын
@@mercce6750fn st is only like $200+
Ever since the loadout change, I've seen more people, pros included, using the A4 more often than before
@dovydas4036
3 ай бұрын
No
@laamala99
3 ай бұрын
@@dovydas4036 yes
@YaBoiAlex
3 ай бұрын
Yeahhh nah
@blah__3000
3 ай бұрын
Definitely not true (and has literally been demonstrated in the stats in this clip???). People in the last year of GO were using M4A4 far more bc the fact that is was more exxy wasn't as much of an issue.
@atilla7153
3 ай бұрын
@@laamala99 nope
Actually when the economy is good, the pros does use it; especially B players on maps like mir, inf and ancient. And I'd say a case can be made for a4 being better than a1-s, of course it changes from position to posiiton
@PythonCS
3 ай бұрын
The economy needs a change since the rounds to win have changed. It makes no sense in my opinion to have it be the same. Like why do you have to double save? Let’s make it so you have to save one round max
@evelyneverlasting9038
3 ай бұрын
@@PythonCS bro in 1.6 you had to triple save
@wisetank135
3 ай бұрын
@@evelyneverlasting9038and the match was 16 rounds
@2.5k_ping56
3 ай бұрын
My brother in Christ everyone does that not just the pros
@clownslayer4670
3 ай бұрын
@@2.5k_ping56 He said in the video prps never or rarely use the m4; thats why I said ghat
Being broke from CT is real a thing
I love the m4a4. Maybe it is because of the dragon king skin but still. 10 more rounds is a game changer.
@goochipoochie
3 ай бұрын
I only ever use m4 because it has objectively better skins (dragon, player, emperor etc etc) Other than that it has no benefits over s, if magazine size matter in a fight I'd rather buy an smg
@PerseusR51
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, having more bullets per mag can definitely be a game changer. Especially defending a site against more than two Ts.
@empirewrld
Ай бұрын
@@goochipoochieu suck in this game
The easier recoil makes it easier for people who dont want to learn the pattern of the a4 as well
@goochipoochie
3 ай бұрын
Don't need to learn any recoil patterns just enable folllow recoil crosshair like i do
@j0xx02
2 ай бұрын
You wont be good enough for that. Against stupid mm players it can work maybe but you will never be able to kill people fast enough all the time in higher ranks (high level faceit or against good enemies)@@goochipoochie
@OliviaKirgo
10 күн бұрын
@@goochipoochiewhat does that do?
@Mikrowave
8 күн бұрын
@@goochipoochiepeople are lazy and I've told like 30 people to do it and they refuse to
“There is no debate that the M4A1-S is better than the M4A4” said no one ever…
@x-.ivan.-x
3 ай бұрын
a1 silencer just better
@Oscylot88
3 ай бұрын
@@x-.ivan.-x Enemy already knows I’m around the corner, what use is the silencer then? I can spam through smokes without very obviously giving away my position, but then I hardly have any ammo to shoot the enemy.
@x-.ivan.-x
3 ай бұрын
@@Oscylot88 if 20 bullets is not enough for you to kill an enemy it is your problem
@goochipoochie
3 ай бұрын
Silencer and no tracer == delayed enemy team response in finding out your location even if there are no smokes and you are simply shooting from an angle M4a4 has no benefits and it is just a worse and more expensive ak that cant kill with headshot. There is never any reason to use m4 (i only ever use it for a change or if i get a nice new skin lol)
@Oscylot88
3 ай бұрын
@@goochipoochie it does more damage at further range and has significantly more ammo.
I keep seeing people die using m4a1s because how slow it is to shoot when direct engagement with an ak
Wait for someone who played CS like a long long time ago i thought you can just right click and ur character puts a silencer on ur m4.
@friendlyreaper9012
2 ай бұрын
That's a completely different gun. It's just the m4a1 then, the only benefit that I can think of is that it has better moving accuracy than the other rifles.
M4A4 is like ct ak47 so if you have good aim it is very effective
@luv-lost
Күн бұрын
Exactly, If you can spray with the AK. You can effectively use the M4.
“99 in 2” needs to go away. One headshot and one body shot is plenty to kill an enemy. M4A4 is going to reign king over M4A1-S.
It takes 4 shots to kill someone with an m4a1-S and 5 shots with an m4a4 so even though it has a higher fire rate the kill time is still faster with an m4a1-S
@hearTelus
3 ай бұрын
This is the real reason and economy has nothing to do with it
@blastmole299
2 ай бұрын
Unless you can 2 tap consistently, yes it's better to use M4A1
@EvgenLion
2 ай бұрын
@@blastmole299 but on CT sometimes you have to met rushes . For me that kinda hard to make 3 headshots in a row, but I can spam theirs bodies . 20 bullets more than enough .
@patrickchintoan2214
Ай бұрын
20 bullets vs 5 t with kevlar +ak-47 Xddddd
@blastmole299
Ай бұрын
@@patrickchintoan2214 It's the hope you can flash properly situation
It depends what site, what angle am i playing and which map. Both is really good
More bullets, 2 shot at any range (which makes it better for medium to long range), faster fire rate. A4 is superior in every gunfight except close range stomach shots.
@certified0093
2 ай бұрын
The A4 is better for close range since its spread increase and recoil is worse but it fires faster and has a 30rnd mag, both rifles do similar enough damage to where it's rarely a noticeable difference, A1-S is great for holding longer angles since the 2nd and consecutive shots have a tighter pattern. I use the A4 when I need to hold sites solo or for close angles where Ts can push me, but the A1-S has gotten me so many easy 2 taps that it's usually my go to otherwise.
@fuig1
Ай бұрын
@@certified0093a good take
@theLuigiiX
26 күн бұрын
@@certified0093 a1 is always 4 shot close range + better moving accuracy, but a4 can take 5 shots
Clearly it's because the a1-s has more expensive skins (xcept for the howl)
@herrben2580
3 ай бұрын
Your logic is backwards my dude. It has more expensive skins because it’s played more
@h0llow1773
3 ай бұрын
but the a4 has the more expensive skins, especially old rare ones
@goochipoochie
3 ай бұрын
What are you talking about M4 has all the best rifle skins in the game on CT side (emperor, player, dragon etc etc). Not even talking about over the top rare stuff like howl That is actually a testament to the fact that how trash m4 is, can't even get picked for its insanely good skins 😂😂
@aXentOG
2 ай бұрын
Bro got Supply and Demand entirely backwards 😂
@NavigatorChel
2 ай бұрын
@@goochipoochiedecimator, golden coil, printstream for m4a1s tho🫤. not including the hot rod, blue phosphor, knight and so on :)
It's the spray & recoil for me. the M4A4 is a bitch to handle.
@luv-lost
Күн бұрын
If you can control the ak, you got the M4. The S is easy mode.
The problem is that the next chance I get, I'm swapping that m4 for an AK and would like to save a little cash for when I just die with it.
They always trash on the guy for saying new opinions but he spits facts nobody says “🔥”
@PythonCS
3 ай бұрын
the life of content creation LMAO
Loved the A4 ever since I started playing. That extra 10 shots and faster fire speed did wonder on many B rush hold.
in tf2, the m4a4-s vs the m4a4 is the equivalent of tomislav vs minigun
I'm so used to the A4 spray that when I use the a1s i just overcompensate and hit body
m4a4s fire rate is what makes it better than a1s. usage highly depends on how the enemy team is pushing
“There is no debate the M4A1-S is better than the M4A4” the M4A4 is undoubtedly better lol, what a way to start the short
Lol this reminded me of the guy in cs:go whose youtube name was something like "M4A1S is unbalanced and the developers don't care" and he used to comment the same thing on every csgo video.
Because before csgo was turned into cs2 the m4a41s got a damage buff lol so its always a 4 shot where the m4a4 isnt always 4 shot
To be fair at CT I play m4a4 every time I can
I use it because rate of fire is slower, and people cant hear where i shoot them from when i flank.
m4a1 is meant for cqc and stealth (higher damage up close, better movement accuracy, best movement accuracy of any rifle when suppressor is removed), m4a4 is meant for mid-long range and accuracy (slightly more accuracy and long range damage, more bullets for less reloading)
This aged well...
I use the m4a4 exclusively
I have both equipped, and use it depending on how I feel. Probably use the A1s slightly more because of Econ
Finally, normal video
And 1 month later, he changed his mind
Thank god they changed the price gap to only be 100 but I think it’s the recoil and spread on M4-S that makes it better than the M4A4
I was quite surprised when I saw there’s no change to the economy system when cs2 got released. I still find myself not being able to buy m4a4+kevlar&helmet+all utils after 2 rounds of full save. It was fine in mr15 but maybe not fit for mr12. So yeah, I have to go with m4a1s simply for the cheaper price point.
It depends on the economy. I never use it now a days since I buy nades which is more fun to use and more versatile
It is as if we are back to days of the release of m4a1s same problems back then too
Because of the silencer. If you put yourself in areas where there's more than 1 cover, you make the most of it.
I use both depending on what map im on and where im holding. If im on inferno holding boiler and mid from short i use the m4a4 (pretty much close range). If im on b coffins holding banana im using the m4a1s (bit longer range especially if u have to Fall back a bit)
That's actually a really interesting point about how the total rounds have changed but loss bonus & scaling haven't changed! There's so many things about CS2 that are just sloppy ports from CS:GO that make me wonder if valve are tanking this game on purpose
@goochipoochie
3 ай бұрын
That's because idiots still like to eco in cs2 While cs2 is designed to win rounds on force buys with super buffed smgs/shotguns with high kill potential and kill money Cs2 is better in everyway than the trash that csgo was, and now even the hacking situation is better than csgo which was unplayable on official matchmaking servers
As an avid a4 player the spray through smoke and multi kill ability is easily why i use it.
Also M4A4 deals less damage everywhere on body except headshot, but you still can't one shot if headshot
It depends for me on what I’m feeling that day LOL
never played csgo/cs2 but i felt like M4A1 should be M4A4 reskin because its literally just a direct upgrade, speaking from playing cs 1.6/cs source
Equip both and you'll always have a primary and nades on buy rounds
put silencer option for m4a4 and it will be more useful with the price
I don’t play cs anymore but I always thought that the M4 Unsilenced should be 1 shot head shot. Maybe too OP for CT side though.
I think that boosting the economy would be a good idea but i also think that if they make the m4a4 be a guaranteed headshot at all range with a helmet, like the ak, it would be used a lot more
@homiekev_
3 ай бұрын
I agree that it would be used more if that was the case. Through doing so it defeats the purpose of the AK being the tool for T side pushes.
Man I remember when the a4 was preferred by a wide margin
The main reason imo is the A4 is now way less acc due to the subtick and spray change
You can use both rifles in different positions, If you dont consider the economy. A1S would be better suited for short fights and holding off angles and A4 would be better in long fights or holding an open position or even if you solo hold a site you can recover easily with an A4.
if u have good eco it really just depends on ur playstyle
You forgot one thing, a4 deals less damage-ish the a1 can 4 shot someone at close range while the a4 neds to 5 shot (5 shots goes for both I think about from mir window to mid top) but the a4 has a less of a damage over distance dropoff so it can deal consistent damage over longer distances while the a1 cannot. So it all comes down to position, as i am a (inferno) apps player (wingman) I prefer the a1 because of the lower tine to kill.
The update lets me put both of them, and i really like both so i prefer that
I only use the a4 when i have to solo defend a site onn ancient or mirage for example
I think its initially shots accuracy must be greater, its hard to connect even at slight burst at head, at tip range it is way worse😢
"Why is no one using this rifle?" *shows picture of 20% of players using it*
@Critical3rror
Ай бұрын
That's 2 players a match. Basically nobody
@ymirfritz9989
Ай бұрын
@@Critical3rror 20% of players or 20% of CTs?
@Critical3rror
Ай бұрын
@@ymirfritz9989 seeing as everyone has to play CT side it would be 20% of players
@ymirfritz9989
Ай бұрын
@Critical3rror that's 1 m4a4 in a team of 5... in randoms they're probably one sniper, maybe 2 m4a1s and one low silver who can't make enough bank for a rifle. I don't think it's a big deal tbh
I will not use 95 in 4 over 100 in 4... Buff the damage then maybe
waht you do when enemy rush? m4a1: Reload and die m4a4: your teammates congratulate you
It should have slightly more damage probably
@PythonCS
3 ай бұрын
That would be crazy
@abe-kun
3 ай бұрын
It actually has better (by better, it means lower) damage falloff than the A1-s, making it a better long-range rifle ironically
@danioger1125
3 ай бұрын
I mean both of the rifles are using the same type of ammo
@danioger1125
3 ай бұрын
This is how I feel now ,,🤓"
I wouldn’t say one is better than the other because of their multiple differences to balance. The a1-s takes one less shot to kill at short and mid range which a4 makes up for it with the faster fire rate. With the recent price change as well to just 3000 for the a4.
I use the M4, when switching between M4 and Ak the recoil is closer. Once you get used to it the M4 is always a better buy. It also depends on position. If you are going to solo a site, M4. if you are with a group, go for the S. The lower recoil and smaller pattern is actually a bad thing because it messes with my muscle memory. If I have an M4 and pick up a AK, no. S and pick up an AK? Whiff unless tapping.
What is his view model?(the character model)
The sound made gun shot slow
I never even knew this weapon existed until now
@damascussteel7688
3 ай бұрын
It's equipped by default what the fuck are you talking about
@goochipoochie
3 ай бұрын
Wait till you find out cs2 has a gaygun
its funny because most ppl picked the A4 im GO but now that u can have both equipped everyone gets the a1s
When is think they Rush B or A i pick the M4A4 (because the magazine), when is a "chill" rond i pick M4-S.
short answer : flashbang long answer : flashbaaaaaaaaaaaaaang😵
Nah....M4A4 all the way, we sprayin bullets up here.
I have both of those rifles in my lodout and I choose the one which will suit my positoion better
Lower damage with one more shot to kill although a little higher fire rate Lower accuracy Low cost-effective
great analysis, if they won't change the economy this game isn't going to be that interesting
@PythonCS
3 ай бұрын
Aggreed
Let the community as it is. You are not anyone that can tell others what to do.
I run both bc I have cool skins for both or I get tired of using one or the other
It's true I play csgo since 2018 and I playing always m4a4 but after cs2 realising I play ONLY m4a1-s
m4a1 also just feels more accurate imo idk why but i do feel like i hit shots with it compared to the silenced
I use both. Sometimes I just feel like using a4 when I have money for it after buying util.
Now its 100$ difference…
they have to nerf the accuracy of the first 4 shots for the m4a1s its ok that the overall spray pattern is much smaller but with the bigger head hitboxes in cs2 they have to do something about the initial accuracy
Literally after the economy chanfe there isnt a single eco round, enemy is always full buy idk what u saying
I always use m4a4 because i have a kato 14 ibp asiimov for it, i know im probably at a disadvantage, but skins man
Why nobody uses unsilenced version of m4a1
Theres actually a massive debate on that the a4 is literally superior. Undeniably so
I always use this thing. Its good
My fav is the A1-S but personally i use the M4A4 in bot matches edit: yes, i suck at CS2 and CS:GO
Why isn't the M4 a one shot to head with head armor? You'd imagine with the higher price they'd just equal to the AK for balance.
@florindo.
3 ай бұрын
Can't happen. Cause is CT side they need only to hold the postion. AK47 is one shot hs cause T side is the attacker. And the prize for same reason.. and molotov cheaper then incendiary.
I use it because im just so used to the recoil pattern
may be a bad loadout that makes me feel that way: but i feel like my economy takes more of a hit when losing the CT pistol round than when losing the T pistol round. Actually no it's just true: after losing the T pistol round i still have enough money to barely afford a P90, after losing the CT pistol round i barely have enough money for an MP7 and Armor
To balance the M4A4 more effectively, it needs a cost reduction. Currently, costing 200 more than the A1-S for worse recoil and less penetration doesn't make sense
Valve saw this video and they lowered it, its still used less.
A4 is better 10 extra bullets makes a huge difference
A4 vs a1s depends on economy, position, and playstyle. No need to change anything as they are well balanced rn
I use a1 because of the design which was in css and cs 1.6
I use the M4A4 cause I can’t put my howl on my A1-S
@PythonCS
3 ай бұрын
Why can’t you do that? Like what is valve doin?
@SenkaBandit
3 ай бұрын
@@PythonCS I lied I don’t own a howl :(
Make M4A4 a significantly better spray weapon. Faster fire rate, slightly lower damage, etc.
"eye never have money"
I bet if they were the same price people would still use the A1-S mostly
@PythonCS
3 ай бұрын
Im using the m4a4 more if they are the same price my guy
@hossein1317
3 ай бұрын
You are alone@@PythonCS
@Calmaressurgebat
3 ай бұрын
Tbh I used to use the A4 in csgo a few years ago and when I picked cs2 up again it felt very different when I spray with it. Otherwise I would for sure still run it so I can spam more 🤣
@spoorkylarva2398
3 ай бұрын
Everyone will use m4 don't know about lvl 5 lobby
@Alm2A
3 ай бұрын
@@spoorkylarva2398less, even lvl 5 would choose m4a4. His level is like 3k on premier
Who let him cook
Idk why but I use A4 much more than A1 after adding it instead of famas