Every time we were having fun, they would nerf the fun into the ground. That is what did it for me.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

I feel that and it is a big gripe for many of us. Thanks for sharing your opinion

@darrylnewman292

27 күн бұрын

My railgun is useless nooooo the first two months of helldivers chef's kiss stop nerf fun out of the game it's a PVE game. We are not playing OverWatch ladies and gentlemen this is bug slaying democracy given time the box art literally says overpowered weapons😂😂😂

@ryangill1322

26 күн бұрын

Same problem that's why my 2 games I regret buying now it diablo 4 and helldivers 2

The nerfs and the moronic reason behind the nerfs. Nerfs were fast and frequent. We've gotten 2 buff patches since launch. All weapons are still poor. We have weapons designed to kill humans instead of terminds and automontons.

@Kratos176

27 күн бұрын

Facts

@Kenmanhl

27 күн бұрын

And Super Earth placed no R&D into giving our armor high Armor Penetration resistance instead of the current AP of zero.

@LeviFuller33

26 күн бұрын

Very true. I can’t believe we would face monster bugs with 20 round mags, that makes no sense. I don’t think we would carry anything under 200rd mags.

@mephisto2348

26 күн бұрын

I get 30+ killstreaks every game. Not sure what you're doing, but maybe try something... different?

@alexlane9099

25 күн бұрын

@mephisto2348 "I" does the world revolve around you? We are talking in general the average helldiver not you.

This game has no meaningful end game to make the endless slog worth it. So you're knocking your head against a wall with guns with little ammo, that lack effective stopping power, while being hindered by the same old game bugs that never seem to go away.

@shrektheogre4118

27 күн бұрын

Yeah. If you play it once, you have played it all.

@Rogue1NZ

27 күн бұрын

100% - after completing the war bonds, there is nothing left to play for aside from leveling for what - a rank title? It's the lack of content that actually kills this game.

@nahfr.

27 күн бұрын

If they litterally just added weapon upgrade which boost ammo capacity or just baseline damage or like attachments or added a hard boss

@ConsciusVeritasVids

27 күн бұрын

Personally I enjoy helping new players by looking for SOS beacons on lower levels. Dropping an exosuit for a level 5 to use is as fun as it is dangerous.

@JohnTaylor-yr1jn

27 күн бұрын

It doesn't need an end game it needs loot and gear, gear exclusive in mission maps and all sorts of stuff.

The very first patch fundamentally changed the player experience by increasing enemy aggression, accuracy and composition. The first few weeks were fantastic and every week after that patch felt like we were getting further and further from that initial experience that hooked so many of us. After a while you just get tired of chasing something you know you'll never reach. The game just got worse and worse and it's so repetitive that once you see its trajectory you realize there's no real reason to play any more.

Getting tired of planets that i cant see shit on. The planets where there is no fog are so rare.. and when one open.. everybody plays on it and it only last a day. It should say something.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Yeah visibility is still a major issue and needs to be fixed completely

@Alone47

27 күн бұрын

This.

@ntomnia585

27 күн бұрын

Especially on bot planets.

@hawk9mm

27 күн бұрын

On top of the fact that bots can clearly see through everything (including geography) and hit you accurately it's just really not fun, on top of not being able to see past 2 feet in front of you and how performance draining their fog is.

@Alone47

27 күн бұрын

@@hawk9mm Yeah, died many times from poking an eyebrow out behind cover, and even when completely behind cover. But when I shoot, shots are blocked unless half my body is out of cover.

For the life of me I cannot understand why a group of developers would nerf fun out of a game when that is what brought players to the game in the first place. A game like this should be a fantasy world that the players can put time into and succeed with the learning curve to become elite in some fashion to make the game fun and fulfilling to play. I know there are players out there that can solo helldive but they are few in numbers. Double the magazine sizes on primary weapons and give us some armor that will take a few hits rather than getting one shotted.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

I agree fully. The players clearing 9 solo do not matter. Successful games always cater to the 95% and not the 5%. I go as far as to even recommend the devs constantly screw that 5% because they will never leave and even if they do, the losses are acceptable. The problem is the 5% are the fanboys and say what the devs want to hear. The 95% are the silent majority that just quietly leaves without a word.

@dztrict1000

27 күн бұрын

Double magazine on all primary weapons is insane, maybe for AR's yeah but EVERY WEAPON? That's kinda crazy. And the point regarding armor, unless i'm playing bots i feel like having more armor would be unnecesary

@mackjones7688

25 күн бұрын

​@@RealAsianRobot I disagree with most of your comment. I am one of the 5% that you say doesn't matter. I soloed Helldive, and all the other difficulties. Often I had no choice. The game breaking disconnections and crashes still leave me playing missions solo. If I am 30 minutes into a mission when my squad drops dead and disconnects to leave me finish. Why would I throw away my efforts if I can usually squeeze out a win despite the odds being stacked heavily against me. I have platinumed the game and I still play. I am also a player who has talked many of my friends and family into buying the game so they can play with me. They consider me an "elite" player. So of course they looked forward to having me fight by their side. They even liked the game enough to buy super citizen bundles and warbonds. Helldivers had almost no marketing done. So they almost completely relied on social media and word of mouth to sell the game. Which proves that in many ways. Marketing as we are most familiar, is dead. So yes, players like myself do matter. We are the ones who are still logging in. The majority of casual players like my cousins have quit permanently. They claim the nerfs, the grenade glitch getting fixed, and the absurd enemy spawns and patrols made the game no fun. It's a PVE game so many of the glitches in the game just enhanced fun and personally. I didn't care if anyone used them. As long as they didn't use it to grief other teammates. We have better guns in real life than we get in the game with larger magazines than a futuristic shooter where we are fighting automatons and massive bugs!? Why a 30 round magazine? Why a 6 shot revolver? Why do we reload so much? Why do enemies have unlimited rockets, and ammunition with their weapons? Why are the mechs so bad? Why can't they reload or have unlimited ammo? They promised overpowered weapons on the jewel case. It's false advertising. No, I am not a fan boy as one of the 5%. If the game choices were in my hands. Helldivers would still be the most played game in 2024. I would give us overpowered weapons and stratgems. I would give us more ammo or more energy weapons with unlimited ammo potential. I would give us a heavy energy based plasma machine gun and laser machinegun. With punch through potential and at least 300 round belts. I would make rifles and other weapons have realistic ranges and bullet drops. I have never met anyone who thinks my awesome ideas are good. My changes would be based on helldive difficulties and soloing content. Fixing stability issues, upgrading servers and migrating helldivers to a more modern engine to make patching, updates, and adding content more efficient. So no, I don't kiss ass. I don't say things people want to hear or what devs have boners for. Like nerfing everything into the ground. Halving magazine spares and removing shrapnel from the Eruptor, or reducing the explosion radius of the air burst launcher. I would make the rail gun make sense too. As a railgun fan from MGS series. It's my firm belief that if a gun can explode and kill you. The risk should be worth being able to one shot anything in the game. Provided you shoot it in it's weak spot. I would also expect accurate marksman ship to reward a player with it. Such as allowing a player to kill 30 robots lined up in a row with a headshot. 😂

@RealAsianRobot

25 күн бұрын

@@mackjones7688 See you aren't a fanboy. That means my comment doesn't apply to you. The problem is, the 5% (the real 5% we hate) are all the idiots that lick the devs and tell them everything is perfect and the game is doing beautifully. It is not and is in a terrible state. Moving to 'The First Descendant' on Tuesday

@mackjones7688

25 күн бұрын

@@RealAsianRobot I played the Beta last year and loved it. Been looking forward to the first Descendant. I am excited to see if it's improved.

I still play, but only a fraction of what I used to. I think this game lacks a compelling story. No cut scenes, no sense of progression. Also they ruined my eruptor.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Yeah, I get that its not a story based game, but the overall galactic war just seems muddy to me

@nux2k

27 күн бұрын

I came into the game during the time of the erupter..... My whole play style was based around it... Not anymore😢

It’s boring the weapons suck and it’s just not a good time anymore

@alexlane9099

27 күн бұрын

That's saying it shortly.

@TyTimeIsAwesome

27 күн бұрын

I play games to have fun. It was fun at first but there's just no variety because only 2-3 weapons are good.

@averagescorpionmain5953

27 күн бұрын

Chat is this real

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

I understand where you're coming from. Thanks for sharing your opinion

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

@@TyTimeIsAwesome I hear that. There are many weapons I genuinely don't even touch at all

Helldiver’s developers and community team have showed nothing but contempt and disdain for the player base. They don’t test properly at all, and seem to be upset about competent players crushing their content - hence the incessant nerfs. Warbonds are weak. No new factions. The Erupter nerf and unwillingness to reverse it sums up the entire problem.

The nerfs really drove people off to play other games, it gets old playing the meta all the time,in Elden Ring for example imo you don't really need a meta you can make so many builds work

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

I feel that and I don't blame many people for jumping ship

@DroosterH

27 күн бұрын

Then... don't play the meta? I mean, if you only play games by the arbitrary rules of random KZreadrs then you'll eventually stop having fun.

@lukeludwig1055

25 күн бұрын

But in eldenr ring, if you dont play the meta, some bosses you literally cant beat. That game has a meta problem no souls game before it has ever experienced. Remember when everyone on earth flamed elon musks build? Furthermore, try playing elden ring without summoning. It turns into the biggest slog and loses most the fun the previous games had in dueling your opponent. Lol, you acting like its not an even worse problem in elden ring shows that you probably use the meta there too.

Poor game balance, fighting the same 2 factions, the constant nerfing of the player in every single way possible, the memory of what HD2 was like for the first 3-4 days after I bought it Before the first nerf patch. The fact that the devs have been very aggressive and hostile towards their paying customers, their players, the fact that the CEO only waited until the population died before he actually acted and even then the big patch, the patch that they forced us to wait with broken equipment and mechanics for almost a month and a half only for it to come out and be yet another middling "balance" patch with all the same nerfs but some good buffs but not enough. Then in that same patch for them to break so many other things and leave them in place for yet another week while we waited for yet another minor patch to fix what they broke. It became obvious to me that they did literally no testing, balance or bug fixes, they never test anything. Hell half of the warbonds were already in the game and they worked but when they released them they were somehow worse, look at the Polar warbond, they didn't even fix the Tenderizer before it was released, that right there is the best example of how Arrowhead does a game. I haven't left it yet but I barely play it like once per week, I can't be bothered to play something that is just wasting my time when I could be playing other games made by clearly more caring and competent developers who actually WANT people to have fun. How to improve it? Yeah just revert the nerfs, period, BUFF things and don't buff them like they gave the Liberator Pen. full auto, like that totally fixed that POS. No we need meaningful buffs to the player unless the devs plan on nerfing the bots and bugs, reverting the patrols from the very first patch, reverting the spawning in enemies, reverting the bots ability to snipe you from a continent away while under smoke or fog cover. Make options FUN rather than creating a constant meta with your constant meddling with weapon and stratagem balance.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

I agree and I thank you for sharing your opinion. They truly screwed up in every way possible. I hope they revert their changes properly and actually get good community managers who can speak well and hear out the people. Till then, I'll be working on "The First Descendant". As an official creator for them, I can tell you that Korean devs take a very customer based approach and they want this to be as good as or even better than Warframe (it's basically Korean Warframe). It's free so if you decide to give it a try, I'll be working on it right from launch!

@dztrict1000

27 күн бұрын

I hope they don't go full buff heavy on the balance, a power fantasy is best experienced when you work to get it

@Wilkwan88

27 күн бұрын

they are being sabotaged from inside, to a sharp mind everythign points to that.

@hawk9mm

27 күн бұрын

@@RealAsianRobot Yeah who knows, it's been months since I had proper 'fun" playing Helldivers 2 so we'll see, now they are on break so we'll have to wait another half a month or more. Yeah that could be interesting, currently got into Deep Rock Galactic and the Palworld update came out so I'll be plenty busy. That's one thing that I can say about Arrowhead, they are the one single company that has pushed me to play other games, Destiny 2 took years before I finally gave up on it, HD2 took 3 whole months, it's sad looking at it that way but it's true.

the same reason i quit darktide , devs decide to nerf weapons in PVE game like wtf . It feels like you are forced to play same equipment over and over

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

I understand and feel that. I find little ways to keep myself entertained but it's certainly a bit of a sour feeling having to play a certain way to be effective. Thanks for sharing your opinion

@SalmonBucket

22 күн бұрын

Skill issue

I think their first major mistake, was nerfing the railgun and from there on ish rolls down hill🎉🎉🎉

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

To be honest, it's one of the only things I regret defending. I thought at the time that they would nerf the overperformer and then significantly buff the underperforming weapons. I clearly misunderstood their philosophy however and things tumbled heavily from there. I wish they had changed things early, but I'll be sending this vid once I'm done with every comment and hopefully they can learn from what the viewers have to say.

@samuraitadpole5459

27 күн бұрын

It wasn't your fault, who could have guessed the hiring manager was praying on the game's downfall ​@@RealAsianRobot

@benc4346

27 күн бұрын

thats what happens when u balance around a bug not a feature.. they need to get all enemy units working as intended with no stupid bs like getting shot through terrain or being ragdolled by a pebble when u dive to evade a hit and so much more.. arc thrower would also not be overpowered nowadays if returned to how it was at launch, its understandable so many people quit because of stuff like that but it still makes me sad because it would have been so easily avoidable

@Mark-es8xc

27 күн бұрын

rail gun? never heard of it

@dekeaustin

27 күн бұрын

@@Mark-es8xc Yeah 💯👍, It's basically useless now.... I just don't understand why they did that!!! 😞

weapon nerfs drove me away. Maybe if they add cityscapes or something major it would be worth another look

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to comment though, that means a lot!

@gurninator

27 күн бұрын

Back for the Illuminates then :)

@nahfr.

27 күн бұрын

Maybe if they just yk let out good guns

@benc4346

27 күн бұрын

fingers crossed that by then most weapons are strong and feel good and we get some nerfs reverted and stuff so players that return for major content added actually stay around and dont leave after 1 session of dissapointment

I still play, but not as often as I used to here are my reasons why I'm slowing down: the war is stagnant and new content is not only infrequent but released unfinished

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

I genuinely see and understand that. New content always seems to release in a broken fashion, like a sloppy and untested job. They definitely need more quality checks! Thanks for sharing your opinion by the way!

@TheDubDisciple

27 күн бұрын

I thnk the stagnation of the war has also effected me. Its hard to get excited or involved in the galatic war effort when there is A) no in-game way to co-ordinate players, not even a guild/clan system and B) planets require 10k players minimum to start beating their decay rates

@nahfr.

27 күн бұрын

Lotterally the only MO's are liberate x planet for whats been 2 weeks

The primary weapons are mostly not good, with only a few exceptions that I like. I would prefer to have a wider variety of weapons to choose from.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

I can agree on that. We should be able to make almost all weapons in our arsenal feel workable (without being tryhards)

@jacobhealy8376

27 күн бұрын

how is this hard too like wtf

I no longer play as often as I did in the beginning. Helldivers to me is like the MCU. At first it was a must be involved event. With all the bs (nerfs, bugs and lame weapons) its just not as fun anymore. I still jump on to help contribute to the MO, but even then I get deterred at these 5-7 day MO’s. I have come to accept that this game will never be what it was in the early days (like the MCU), but I am happy I got to experience some of the best gaming times of my gaming days (I’m 39). If we coud get some bug fixes, better weapons, reverted nerfs, new mission types, new enemy types (not even counting the illuminate), somthing to spend req slips and samples on for maxed out players, new stratagems, then I’d be back on consistently. Until then I’m an intermittent diver.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Thank you very much for sharing your opinion, I appreciate it! I also understand and hear you on many points. It was truly an amazing breakout hit that I was so glad to be a part of. It made me good money, and it was painful to watch it struggle and go. I don't think it will die, but I believe we will all be intermittent divers in the short term. Hopefully 6 months down the line, they get enough momentum for this to pick up again

Still play somewhat. I find mostly the patrol respawn and sizes now are awful, forget about playing on LVL 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9. Can't get samples, solo only good on LVL 1 to 3. Teams of 2 to 4 trying LVL 4 to 9 forget it due to the patrol respawn rates. I find it is killing the game as well. I got everything unlocked, closing in on 500 hours. But this game isn't fun in its current state. The Dev are killing the game slowly with bad decisions. Their discord isn't helping with mods on power trips over there. They need to restore the game back to the release version and go from there. I still like the game and hope it will improve. But they really need to do something. Didn't they undo the nuff to some of the weapons?

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

No nerfs have been undone as of right now. The railgun was buffed but it's initial nerf was never undone. I can solo any difficulty but I'd have to be a tryhard and that is generally not fun. So I feel that. Patrols feel find to me, but I get that it bothers many players.

For me it was all the bugs in the game - random crashes to desktop, the freezing of the game when I try to exit, joining a group and watch my pod fall towards the ground and never make it there. The weapon nerfs were always discouraging as well - I will never understand why they nerfed things into oblivion for "balance"

@shrektheogre4118

26 күн бұрын

These things didn't happen nearly as much when the game started. Why do they make changes that have negative effects, then wait forever to fix them? They acted fast on the bug breaches spawning in the drills, but that's another example of their picking and choosing. Probably because the mission was a limited time one, they think it is fine to leave the bugs and glitches in the regular modes because they have more time to work on them. We'll, their time is running out. Not to mention the horrible people they have running their socials, because for a while you HAD to go to discord to see any of the important information like supply chains.

I play a mission or 2 per day, but I'm not into it like I used to be. The bad patches really hurt the game.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

I hear that. The nerfs really cut it out for a lot of people. Thanks for sharing your opinion!

I click on a mission, try to switch up my loadout for some change of pace, then I go "nah this gun is dead, this gun is dead, that gun is also dead". Arrowhead really made a graveyard out of the weapons, and the "buffs" only seemed to zombify them rather than bring them back to life. My dear eruptor is DEAD, and no damage buff can replicate what its pre-nerf shrapnels could do.

Also, I think 🤔💬 a lot of players we're hoping they would buff the weapons back to pre nerfed status. But that never happened 🎉🎉🎉

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

True that

@lperez3000

26 күн бұрын

They need to own up to their mistakes and revert things that cause issues. For example, the eruptor shrapnel was killing players because they updated deflection. Rail gun pre nerf will no longer be as strong as before. Same goes for slugger and arc thrower because the damage bug had been fixed. These guns were nerfed due to bugs and not because the guns themselves were bugged.

@RealAsianRobot

26 күн бұрын

@@lperez3000 I agree thoroughly, but the devs seem blind to this unfortunately. Thank you for sharing your thoughts

I haven't quit yet, however I only play with friends who are still newer to the game. I just have nothing to do at the moment. I'm nearly level 100 and I have had everything unlocked consistently. So I really don't feel the incentive to play anymore.

The first Helldivers was in 2D and everyone was forced onto the same screen. This meant that teamwork was essentially forced upon you and compensated for the lack of power of the weapons because there was always four of you close by. Now that the sequel has the same philosophy but players can wonder off on their own, is it not unsurprising that primary weapons feel underpowered?

@therandomcommenter6629

25 күн бұрын

So the answer is people are forced to do teamwork but they actually need to use their brain instead of the game doing it for them

Something not many people bring up about the railgun is that there is a bug increasing damage for ps5 players. So, they nerfed the railgun due to a bug, and didnt fix the bug 🤦‍♀️

@RealAsianRobot

26 күн бұрын

I remember something like that happening but after all this time. I expect nothing short of incompetence from Alexus

Nerfing all the weapons. Forcing optimal play at higher levels to grind resources instead of encouraging player expression with a variety of playstyles with viable weapons, to tackle harder challenges in a more fun way. Bugs. Crashes. It's PvE, make it fun.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

I agree. Fun is a major factor holding the game back right now. I thank you for sharing your opinion. Sometimes it really feels like higher levels are an insane drag. And the bugs are problematic for sure.

@orlandoboom9018

27 күн бұрын

@@RealAsianRobot Cheers man, your takes and understanding of the game are spot on. I'm just an aged Gen-Xer from the arcade era learning from the kids now. Don't stop!

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

@@orlandoboom9018 Haha, all good, I try to teach in whatever game I go to, although sometimes my attitude is a bit too abrasive for the younger folks. They've gone a bit soft since the age of the first consoles 😏😏. I'm just looking forward to my new partnership with The First Descendant as an official creator. Hopefully while im working on that project, Arrowhead can turn this thing around.

We were promised a power trip co-op shooter and then anything that was fun got nerfed into the ground. I'm over it.

@RealAsianRobot

24 күн бұрын

The First Descendant which im working with as an official content creator releases Tuesday. The devs for that game actually want users to have their power fantasy. I would love for you to come and check us out when we drop 😁. If you want a looter shooter that's like warframe but with really hot characters (and also free to play), then I'll see you on The First Descendant

The constant disconnects and crashes kill it for me. I cant quickplay without disconnecting, I cant host without losing 2 or 3 team mates. I go in knowing im constantly going to cycle new players just to lose them after 5 or so minutes. The uncalled for nerfs also leave a bad taste as well.

@RealAsianRobot

26 күн бұрын

Yes, the constant crashes and dcs are absolutely crazy. I can literally only play with friends or less infinite loading bugs happen. Thanks for sharing your thoughts mate

When it comes to live-service video games, there have to be three things going on for me to play them continuously-a great core gameplay loop, the addition of meaningful progression, and constantly added content. Helldivers' gameplay loop stands out as a unique and enjoyable experience within the genre. This is a facet of the game that I personally find no fault with. However, the community's perception of the game's balance patches, which heavily focused on nerfs in the early months, led to a decline in the game's initial fun factor for many, even if I disagree with that mindset. Helldivers 2 has a lot of things to grind for, such as Ship Modules, Warbonds, and Stratagems, but every one of these has been heavily criticized and only sometimes feels worth the grind. For a long time, most of the Ship Modules were just not functional, and even when they have been functional, most of the upgrades feel so minor that they'll never show an actual difference in the middle of combat. Fans have criticized the Warbonds for having weapons that are underwhelmingly similar to other weapons people have already obtained, underpowered, or immediately nerfed within the next patch. We also haven't been getting new stratagems, and when we do get new ones added, they just aren't as fun as the community was hoping for. Unfortunately, Helldivers 2 has been lacking in terms of additional content. While we've seen the introduction of new planets and engaging 'lore events ', the regular battles for random planets in Major Orders often feel futile, as the progress made is often undone when the planet is taken over a week later. Helldivers is an amazing game to play with friends for game nights, but it's not a game that should be played every single day and is not worth grinding for.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Thank you very much for your comment. I read it all and I agree on many of the points you've made. Particularly, the nerfs have been too heavy and many weapons are simply underwhelming which is not good for a game with a large (and quite frankly) casual playerbase that just wants to deliver some democracy. It definitely feels like fun isn't being added and that's stopping players for sticking with the game long term. Hopefully they will learn a better path in a few months. Or they can choose to just accept a lower playerbase and work with that.

@PRC533

27 күн бұрын

It really is very similar to Darktide. both games have a gameplay loop that absolutely carries them because it's so damn fun. However, both companies refused to listen to their fanbase in terms of progression and balance. I do think Arrowhead has now started down the right path, which was about a year earlier than Fat Shark. I left Darktide after the first 6 months of no progress and Helldivers 2 is nearly completely out of my game rotation.

Reasons I've actually stopped playing: 1) Long and boring MOs w/ Underwhelming Rewards: Almost everyone is capped out on Medals. Reward us with experimental weapons or provide buffs in liberation rates. Include new mission/enemy/biome types in every MO. Stop asking us to kill x billion enemies in 3 days or hold/defend 5 planets for 5 days 2) Weak Premium Warbonds: None of the primaries stand out as 'good' save for the Eruptor before it was nerfed. Weapon and rrmor perks that don't fit the 'theme of the warbond ex. Polar Patriots didn't have armor perks that gave players an advantage on Ice Planets nor did it have any cryo-based weapons. 3) Longer time between new content: Yes, this sounds counter intuitive, but if I got to wait 6 weeks for new content. Then I'm gonna get bored quick. 1 month is reasonable but its the fact that I there is no official road map for content and that patches will now take however long Arrowhead feels is necessary is just underwhelming for me when couple with the 'Boring MOs' issue. It feels like Arrowhead doesn't really care if people stick around so long as their 'vision' for the game is upheld. I'm sorry, but good live service games cater to their players, not the other way around. I understand that they don't have the resources like Blizzard or FromSoft, but they can do small weekly updates like they used to. The only reason those weekly updates weren't received well is because they were riddled with nerfs to weapons with the highest pick rates instead of buffs to the guns that rarely get picked.

@RealAsianRobot

26 күн бұрын

Yeah it's sad for sure, but don't worry. We will be on The First Descendant next week 😏😏😏. Plus I'm still playing Raid constantly. Can't believe the game was good 🤣🤣🤣. I enjoy it so much now

Couldn't agree more bro...i have a bit over 400 hours on HD2 (98% solo) and typically run lvl 7's solo nowadays -the nerfs really hammered the game and make it too sweaty on 9 if you use different stuff other than your own personnal meta loadouts. I literally use the standard Lib or Adjudicator with the Eagle Air Strike, Orbital Precision, and AMR on bots and the Pummeler, (cause I am so so so SIIIICK of using the Breaker Incendiary) grenade pistol, Eagle Napalm, Orbital Precision, jump pack and EAT on bugs 99 out of 100 bug dives and I am bored to death. I do change it up and only take one Orbital, jump pack and run the Grenade Launcher (or flame thrower) and an EAT to call in when needed, but again, not being able to use every gun on the game whenever you're in that particular mood sucks. The game is repetetive anyway, so using a wide variety of loadouts is the only way to keep it kinda fresh. You CAN use other stuff but its just no fun to Helldive with a shit loadout thats not enjoyable. I do still dive 3 or 4 times thru the week (sometimes) and maybe run a few on the weekends, but I was dropping in for several hours EVERY day until the first patch that messed with the patrols. Thats when I dialed it back to 7 and stopped playing daily. I tried, but I just couldnt make myself play like that when the weapons were getting stepped on or just left shitty with no attempt to bring them up to par, the patrols were outta hand at times and just all the other garbage. At this point I'm not so sure if they shouldnt just reset the damn game back to 1.0 then add the new shit, QoL improvements, and leave ALL the changes they've made outta the game entirely. They gonna have to make ALL the guns good and fun to use and add ALOT of content and stop wasting time and effort tweaking the enemy behavior, spawn rates, patrols, health pools, the width of the bile puke and all that stupid shit. Hell, fix the damn guns and let us be overpowered for a bit while they tweak and test all those game and enemy changes behind the scenes...or dont, whatever. At this point they can let the game bleed out and die cause alot of us are just about over all the B.S.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Thank you very much for taking the time to share your opinion. I hear you on a lot of the problems. The loadout variety is a serious issue and definitely a big gripe for many. Every weapon needs to feel strong in the divers hands and not "a situational teamwork pick" You literally can't even force teamwork in most situations so I can see why players get frustrated and leave. I hope they right the ship. I'll be on my new project with "The First Descendant" while I wait. Nexon made me an official creator so that should be a fun time and it's a free to play game (basically Korean Warframe).

This game initially captivated me and my pals. We played every evening for two months, enjoying the game loop. Unfortunately, the developers nerfed our favorite guns, including the Breaker, Arc Thrower, Eruptor, and finally, the Quasar Cannon. These changes discouraged my friends, and they eventually stopped playing. Now, I’m the only one still playing regularly. It's disheartening because I want to recruit more friends and family to join me, but I live in a country where Sony has banned the game's sale. PS: by reading the comments of other players it seem one their biggest gripes were the gun nerfs.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Pretty much the nerfs have been the gripe of 60% of the entire playerbase. 40% is various other reasons, but honestly, they have screwed up on an incredible level right now.

I haven't "quit" but that's more because my friend still plays and we like to just go in and do level 3 duo mission to mess around. When he doesn't get on I rarely play by myself (like an hour every few days) and mostly that is doing quick trivial runs to contribute to MO, or quickplay on lvl 3-5's in order to help out some new players and explain some of the mechanics of the game to them if they need it. I used to play hours at a time everyday now its hard to even just play 1 hour at a time every few days. My reasons are pretty much the same as everyone else has stated: A good chunk of the weapons and stratagems are basically unusable, lack of armor variety, armor buffs not making sense (polar patriot armor has nothing to do with helping on cold planets), limited viable booster choices, Weird enemy mechanics / buffs to enemies (watched an old video the other day and a hunter didn't one shot / take out 3/4ths of your health), Endless bugs, disingenuous studio (the way they balance the game directly contradicts statements made by the former CEO), their patches need patches to patch other patches and so on with the patches and hotfixes, and finally the studio made the unfortunate choice to make their game on a discontinued game engine meaning not only do they have to make a game they also have to maintain and upgrade a game engine which makes me fell like there will be no satisfying end to the bugs plaguing the game. Quick Edit: The reason why I feel it is highly unlikely for them to ever actually revert the changes is because of what I mentioned before: the game engine. Like I said before it is a discontinued engine so they have to mess with it themselves without any support from the engines developers. I have heard the code is basically in a similar state as TF2, which is to say spaghetti code, but I am not entirely sure of that. Either way, this is what makes me think they couldn't ever just "revert" the changes without royally messing up everything. I am also not sure if they use the version control technique since from my understanding they were / are an indie studio and they weren't expecting the game to get this big. You can follow this link www.gridly.com/blog/version-control-in-game-development/ to see more about what version control is (unless robot doesn't want comments with links in which case I am willing to edit the comment again and remove the link).

You're right , the nerfs created live service burnout. But the community toxicity was real., before extraction one player would stand at the ships ramp , after players have sat down , and shotgun the other 3 players for no apparent reason, other than trolling. Actions like this made it extremely unplayable. And to top it off you couldn't report them. And then another nerf and the devs bad community relations while patting themselves on the back constantly pretty much sealed the deal.

@RealAsianRobot

26 күн бұрын

Yeah the toxic ones are so crazy right now. No idea why they would do something like that

I think the Devs should have added stealth mode into some of the missions for both Terminids and Automatons were if you or your squad mate got detected by making too much noise or seen at close range distance; it would be a mission failure. On top of that they should have added "suppressor" as an unlockable at higher levels with medals for the AMR support weapon and some other primary weapon based rifles; therefore it would benefit the mission objective and the bonus XP you got from the mission. To go along with that they would give players acid gas/corrosive grenades as an unlockable with medals for taking down enemies silently.

I’m actually considering going on break. I hit lvl 90 yesterday and have everything unlocked. I quick play a lot. In the last two weeks, I’ve jumped on at least 5 missions that were in a broken state. More players would just flood the lobby wondering why the mission isn’t progressing, then leave frustrated. One mission had to end in death. The other four could only progress once a new player joined the lobby due to bad z axis coordinates on the nursery drill. From og players in the lobby, they would describe my character as floating over thin air.

Nothing special left to do. Maxed out everything and now playing other games. Still log in for 2-3 MIssions but thats it.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing your opinion!

It was just too many nerfs to fun stuff that made my friends and I quit. Lack of mission variety didn't help either at higher difficulties. Getting materials also took forever and the grind just got boring in conjunction with the other things mentioned.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Yeah I feel that. It used to feel like such a solid game and then they just annihilated it lol. But i thank you for taking the time to share your opinion

I would try to explain my reasons, but Robot already stated why I left HD2 in this video in a way more well spoken manner than I can.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Thanks my guy. I hope you'll join me on "The Firsf Descendant" next week instead 😁

It would be cool if the enemy factions had a leadership System we could all work on taking down. Automatons have different tiers of leaders to work on taking down, like boss fights that randomly happen. Then we eventually get to the Automaton Leader for a huge fight. Annnnnd having more to do on our ships would be amazing! Having a weapons range to practice with our loadouts would be nice. Kinda like a War Room from X-men

The nerfs were not fun, but the game itself is still good and the last patch set a lot of stuff right. The 2 things that most irritate me are A. Players who say it is too easy then also bitch about spawn rates. Is it too easy or too hard make up your mind. B. All the planets with reduced visibility. This is way too common and they seriously need to different modifiers. No energy weapons. Only energy weapons. No orbitals. No eagles. No support weapons. Or if they don't want to limit choices give the above buffs under certain planetary conditions. Giving everyone the free flamethrower or AC was fun. It meant i could take other stuff I wouldn't try otherwise because I didn't need the slot for a support weapon. I love the rocket/AC sentry as a result.

Arrowhead refuses to give the Liberator Penetrator and Concussive 45 round magazines even after saying they are going to put fun into the game.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Not sure how that would add to fun. I'd give them both 60 or 75 round magazines. Let me really mag dump into the foes of humanity. Also I'd have the liberator be able to mod into its variants rather than trying to pass off variants as née weapons

@herosupport1606

27 күн бұрын

@@RealAsianRobot yeah that system would be allot better to have conversion kit upgrades. that way all the ap conc and whatever all have the same tradeoffs instead of the whimsical crap going atm.

Appart from what you said which is all very true, arrowhead should do 3 things : - revert spawn rates and patrols to how they were before. - reward team play without punishing solos. Right now objectives don t require that you play together, the best strat is to split up if you wanna clear the map, which makes the game not so fun especially with friends and doesn t make you feel like you re part of a soldier squad. - introduce new orbitals and eagles. They re are the main stratagems people use and yet not a single one has been added since launch, wich makes the experience a bit stale.

1. Most of the weapons/Stratagems ain't fun = repetition = boring 2. The missions get repetitive as well. No real uniqueness after like 100 hours of playing.

Another factor to my my hell divers 2 annoyance is KZreadrs!. I got so tired of being clickbaited that it made me stop caring about the game or watching videos for a bit.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Yeah, choosing the right creator is important. That's why I'm the only one many folks trust. We prove everything on stream. Shame though, because unfortunately you need many KZreadrs (even the horrid clickbaiters) to do their thing and generate hype. It's a bit of a frustrating 'buyer beware' type scenario. Hopefully, in future, if the game resurges, people know who to really trust for the info.

I haven't stopped, but I have def slowed down to just trying out the warbonds. Also July will be a crazy month for co-op shooters (TFD, EDF, Once Human) excited for the new games coming.

@RealAsianRobot

26 күн бұрын

As an official Nexon Content Creator for "The First Descendant". I look forward to you joining us there instead 😁. It's honestly great to be working with them

I am over level 120. It has became stale, there's always new bugs (not talking about the terminids), unresolved gameplay issues, toxic players and crappy war bonds. This game is done for.... The concept is fantastic! There's just not enough to keep it going.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

I genuinely feel that. It's problematic how much they break when trying to fix the game. Thank you very much for sharing your opinion. I feel the same way. The concept is great, but they needed to understand their customers better.

@TwistedTornsTirade

27 күн бұрын

I loved how we played together instead of against each other, and have been wanting this for some time!

@mr.l5783

27 күн бұрын

Yeah. I’ve been getting kicked from games more and more often. - Accidentally killed the host once? Kicked. - Didn’t choose the “right” loadout? Kicked - Pelican about to extract the team? Kicked. Because the host is an a**hole.

@TwistedTornsTirade

16 күн бұрын

@@mr.l5783 lol he new and improved 380 will really get you kicked and I don't get it, I use it when I am away from everyone else

The reasons I’ve stopped are; 1. They nerfed my whole favorite loadout (Arc Thrower and Eruptor). & 2. Shills for the company defending these dumb balance decisions just constantly saying “sKiLl isSuE” or “giT gUd”. I hate those type of people and they ruin games for others imo.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

They do and they will defend the game until they are the last 4000 players left. It's how it is unfortunately :P

1. Poor visibility 2. Poor gunplay/recoil/ergonomics. Primary weapons feel meh 3. Not as arcadey as I'd prefer 4. PSN 5. Weapon/Strategem balance 6. Constant bugs, crashes 7. Exhaustive list of persistent "known issues" negative impact on QoL

it feels like the devs are actively preventing success. they weren't ready for success and are trying to slow progress to match the pacing they want. if Devs stop kneecapping the players it won't feel like beating on a wall.

@RealAsianRobot

26 күн бұрын

Agreed, they definitely were NOT prepared at all for the success they got

It’s a fun game but the devs kept breaking the game with endless “fixes” that made things worse and arbitrary weapons balanced that rendered the weapons useless. It seems that who ever is making those decisions needs to be fired or placed somewhere else in the company. It comes down to not listening the player base. If they actually listened they would have left weapon balancing alone and focused on the bugs in the game. I’ll come back to playing when they fix the weapons and bugs to a reasonable degree. Right now it’s just a mess, not really fun anymore. Too bad really.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing your opinion. I definitely hear that. They really focused in the wrong things. Also the dev is called Alexus (bringer of balance). He is solely in charge of balancing and the reason for everything pretty much.

They need an implementation of a solid clan system so I don't always have to play with randos. Agree with you on the galactic order take, we need progress and not just constant grinding on both fronts.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Problem is, by the time the clan system is out. Ain't nobody gonna be left to make a clan 🤣🤣

Started a game yesterday, within 3 mins i was alone after everyone crashed out.....team filled up again and then I crashed out. Everyday since the war bond!

@RealAsianRobot

26 күн бұрын

Yeah they do need to fix their bugs tbh

I still play a few matches a week but I’ve definitely been playing less and less. The on going war is fun at first but fighting on the same planets over and over again is just tiring and gets pretty repetitive. Also the crashes and bugs on pc are just getting worse it seems.

It's been MO after MO after MO for me. The constant crashing started to take me down too. Add people to getting ban because they did not want to talk about flurries and vomit emoji rubbed me the wrong way.

@MartinLeong25

27 күн бұрын

there is a difference between not wanting to talk about furries and going out of your way to shit on them

Even with the most recent statement from Alexus saying that he's not the only one involved in the balancing, perhaps. But I'd rather not believe him because of his still withstanding character and past cowardice on a certain sequel project. Calling for you to step down from your job isn't a witchhunt, your title and boasting as the lead balance guy it is natural we look at you, Alexus as the main culprit!

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

He is the only culprit as far as I am concerned. The words from the mouth of the guilty are nothing but lies anyway. Until he is completely removed and sent into oblivion, this game will remain low, no matter how many fanboys defend it unfortunately.

I’m 80 th lvl and I buy almost everything in game:stratagems,modules,all battle passes taken and fully completed.I just doesn’t know what to do in this game now

I still play on both PC and PS5. I don't mind the re-balance updates. I just pick new strats/guns to use (Do miss my railgun though). I think the biggest issue is we need a new enemy type, other than bots and bugs....drop vehicles in for a while too, then pull them out...more surprises.... need longer larger objectives, with milestones in place. Yes, major orders have been boring.

A good chunk of my friends quit due to the PSN fiasco. I imagine 2 might return if the countries are unblocked but 2 are probably done completely. End game is essentially somewhat lackluster since there is nothing to do with the Samples after you finish the ship modules which ends up making it something of a play once every other day maybe for me at most. Side note, that Superior Packing Methodology is still broken is a bit annoying if you want to play with Spear/Recoilless even if it is still doable.

@RealAsianRobot

25 күн бұрын

Yeah the endless bugs and things breaking is just...ridiculous at this point. I can't even understand it anymore. I recommend to you and your friends. Just come over to The First Descendant with me. It's free anyway

Mainly just attrition of interest. Eventually most people move on from the hot game of the month. This is still 5-10x more players than Arrowhead was expecting to have as their base, and the last nerf had a lot of positive changes. Maybe we'll get some numbers back when the Illuminate come out, maybe not...the game has already been a big success, and if you don't want to stick around that's fine. Not every game has to be huge forever.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing your opinion! I guess I see things differently. Since I saw the potential in this game to be huge, perhaps I was wrong. We will see. I will definitely move on to other projects while I keep an eye on this to see how it changes and develops. Perhaps with enough time in the oven, it can regain its former glory.

@RyanW1019

27 күн бұрын

@@RealAsianRobot is there any other co-op third person shooter game that is currently retaining more players than HD2? Idk how many PvE games have managed to make the live-service model really last, and there was always going to be a drop off after the kind of peak it had. Whether that peak was going to be from 500k down to 100k or 50k or 20k if things had developed differently is not something we’ll ever know. Also, the issues with the released content indicate to me that the devs aren’t capable of putting out content any more/faster than they already are. (Technically, they aren’t really capable of putting it out as fast as they are now, since half the time the content doesn’t work upon release, lol.) So short of AH doubling their workforce overnight, I’m prepared to live with whatever we do get. If I ever have kids, obviously I’ll want them to be at the top of their class, but if it turns out they’re kind of dumb, then I’ll still love them, I’ll just have to live with it lol. Same with this game, I can think of 100 things that would make it better but I don’t want to waste time hating on it when I still like it as it is.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

@RyanW1019 I hear you. I don't ever hate on a game, but being Asian, I cannot stand imperfection and wasted potential so I will happily criticize even the smallest of things if there is a chance they might hear it. Ultimately though, I will also have to wait and see. My time is limited so I hope I can play this again with a positive income figure, but it definitely doesn't look likely in the short term. I would never hate the game, but I do hope they will (potentially) do better. Fingers crossed!

hit the nail on the head, one addition, during the sony stuff they also killed the eruptor which was in a ‘paid’ dlc (was the final straw in my friend group, bit like 3 nerf strikes). now im stuck playing with randos and a broken social menu on ps5. thanks for the great content btw

The patch where they fixed shrapnel, which lead to nerfing erupter, and they still can't make the game stable.. Rogue devs claiming to be head of balance then suddenly backing down to oh its a team effort. Stop stealth nerfing. Oh and bots have become annoying af engaging from outside view distance and firing at you from across the map.

I’m level 110 about 400hrs I haven’t left the game but I definitely play a lot less. The reason for that is I’ve maxed everything out there’s nothing to grind for and the missions are getting so repetitive. If they could add in stuff for me to spend my loot on and had some revolving changing missions to break up the monotony I would definitely be playing a lot more. Only reason why I hopped back on lately is to find super credits for the next war bond.

@RealAsianRobot

26 күн бұрын

I understand. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It's definitely a huge problem they are facing right now. I have 800+ hours and I'll be moving on to my new project as an official content creator for "The First Descendant". Nexon Korea has their head on straight and they want to make a great game for Western Audiences mixed with an Eastern vibe. Hopefully it will be twice as successful as Warframe!

netfs, bugs, (non Terminid kind) glitches, Sony being stupid, Arrowhead's Community Managers on discord, Alexus the Bringer of No Fun Allowed, squadmates constantly team killing each other, knocking each other into bug or nuked nursery holes, knocking stratagems out of your hands, no controllable vehicles or aircraft. everything wrong with Helldivers 2 is piling up quickly, while the fixes for most of these problems are few and far between.

@RealAsianRobot

24 күн бұрын

Yup. The team killing is the worst. Can't stand those kinds of super toxic players. I hope they enjoy destroying their own game. I will be on The First Descendant. As an official content creator for the game. I hope you'll come and see me there 😁

my friends and I play less than we did. Mostly waiting for new missions and biomes. We still play a few times a week but not all the time.

@RealAsianRobot

26 күн бұрын

I hope they introduce new stuff soon :). I am currently recommending The First Descendant to everyone I know, it's a great game and will be a good 2 to 3 month time sink till Helldivers is back

I do my dailies to check in on the state of the game... and guess what? If you aren't using the Breaker Incendiary, Scorcher, or Sickle, you're going to have a bad time on any difficulty over 7. When the new jungle map dropped, my favorite heavy, the Spear, crashed my game a dozen times. So then I had to switch to MG despite there being way too many chargers in the current build. I'm also tired of huge mountains or rivers blocking objectives. With the broken flying/walking patrol spawn rates, being made to run all the way around a terrain obstacle means like 8 encounters on the way there. Give us stratagems that create bridges across rivers, or ladders to scale mountains. That would feel sick and strategic. The game is addictive and fun at its core. I would keep playing if I could experiment with different builds, or if there was more stuff to unlock. There are so few viable weapons, there just isn't much to do anymore. Give us armor colors as cosmetics to customize. Separate armor perks from armor sets, let us pick them before a mission just like our boosts. If they added underground levels where we go into bug hives and kill a queen, they could resell the exact same stratagems in "underground" variants, where the drop pods drill into the surface of the planet to get to you. That would add a bunch of new things to unlock. And until you unlocked each stratagem, you'd be trying to conserve supplies and use whatever you find inside the hole. Or maybe certain portions of the cavern could have holes in the ceiling, so there were limited locations where you could call in supplies! That would be dramatic. It would change the game's pacing, make it new and fresh. Flashlights would actually mean something underground. Fighting in the dark means bugs would be harder to spot, and they could add new types of bugs that can crawl on the ceiling and grab you so a teammate has to break you free, forcing some teamwork mechanics. I dunno. I'm just spitballing because I want to see Helldivers 2 succeed! We all do. I hope they pull it off. We want the Managed Democracy to last.

@RealAsianRobot

23 күн бұрын

Many good suggestions and they've been suggested since the start of the game but quite frankly. Arrowhead can't listen. I'll be sending this vid to them in a few days. In the mean time, you should join us over at "The First Descendant" it launches tomorrow and im one of the official Nexon content creators for that game. I'll be making plenty of guides and the game itself is free to play. Come give it a try. It's cross play and available on all platforms ;) I even have an official creator code you can input to support me when buying yourself stuff in the game (if you want to do that)

For me it was the weapons, if they returned them to day one specs it would be better. Its a PVE game, crank up the damage on all weapons, and give us the future weapons designed to kill terminids and bots.

@RealAsianRobot

25 күн бұрын

Exactly my thoughts. We live in the future, but the weapons are based on magazine sizes and the feelings that guns have in 2024 🤣🤣. We can definitely do better

I’m very skeptical to jump on the hype train of a new game. I’ve been burnt too many times. I decided to enter into this one carefully. It didn’t take long though for HD2 to win me over. I was having a blast with this game. Then, duh, duh, Duhhh! Changes the devs made in the name of balance sucked all the fun out of the game. Damn it all! I feel as though I’ve been betrayed again. And what was the response? Devs making smug, snarky responses attacking players and defending themselves. F those loser bitches. They wanna take a game they accidentally made amazing, turn it into something that sucks, and bite the hand that feeds them when we point it out? They can keep their loser game all to themselves. Until these guys stop wearing their own asses as a hat, I’m done with them.

@Sigmand0

27 күн бұрын

What would bring me back? Fire the jackasses at arrowhead who treated their customers like trash. Get better customer support. Revert the game back to what was fun. Start releasing meaningful content.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Thank you very much for sharing your opinion. I hear you 1000% on this. They really screwed the pooch on this one and it went from my top recommendation to something where I've straight up told people not to buy or even play until they fix it. It's sad to see what it's become and I don't blame you for being done. I hope they right the ship in a year or two tbh.

Elden Ring DLC People have done everything Waiting on that next big event Why Nerf guns on a PvE?

When I hit a random bug in game or get instakilled by something that should not instakill (technically a bug ig) I just alt F4 and go to something else. Game is so stupid nowadays. The base game feels worse. So many random unresolved issues.

Well the game has only two factions (Terminids and Automatons), so instead of releasing all these armors & weapons in the forms of "Warbonds" they should have focused on releasing the illuminate faction and offer a different playstyle to the players, so then choosing different weapons load out before mission launch (even though there would be fewer options) would become a viable solution. IMHO Arrowhead team got their priorities wrong...

I'm still playing but I'm with you that Arrowhead somehow nerfs the fun away each time you think you' be fond THE weapon that just kills everything. If a weapon is a bit op- so what if people are having fun. If a player needs a challenge he can use weaker weapons and strategems..

@RealAsianRobot

25 күн бұрын

Fun fact. The First Descendant is all about power fantasy and respects thar players want it. I'll be streaming it next week. Come check it out. It's free and fully cross platform so you won't get into the same mess that Helldivers 2 has for sure 🤣🤣

hi there, so i tend to play helldivers maybe like once bi-weekly & it's a fun game indeed but i felt a bit drained once i reach lvl 70. it's a live service game with new updates coming up so i decided to put it down incase i get exhausted from it & play some new games for pc such as tsushima & elden ring dlc. i'm a patient dude but boy some bugs were soo infuriating that even some teammates would rage quit & uninstall the game. warbonds are a cool concept but AH should focus on giving players a rover for the open map missions & i played with a few that complained about that. sometimes i feel forced by clearing a map 100% so i play a match or two & i'm done for the day but before that i would play like 8+ hours each session. i'm still hoping helldivers becomes goty 2024 but arrowhead gotta play their cards right to make that happen. p.s helldivers is the only live service game i like because cod & fortnite just ain't my cup of tea & i'm more of a single player guy so yea yea! the end 😂

The game is unplayable since the last big patch. The spawn rate went up again and that was the breaking point. Been a peaceful two weeks since. Helldivers is for that hardcore group of like 5000 players. It’s like the last CEO said the game is not for everyone or even most people for that matter. A game for everyone is a game for no one. It’s a game for a few. Oh and the nerfs. Every weapon I fell in love with is still nerfed to this day. Breaker shotgun smaller magazine, Quasar Cannon longer cooldown time, Pummeler stagger nerfed. Nuff said. I’m convinced this game is one big pysop to see how stubborn or conditioned players are if all fun and restraints are put in place much like mask mandates. How to fix….double magazine size on all weapons. Increase number of magazines, fix restraints to weapons that are now handcuffed.

To me they just dropped the ball hard on balance and warbonds like the first three were so good and thematic then you get polar patriots with pummeler as the only ok gun (which actually got a nerf for some reason) And freaking viper commandos the most boring and lazy warbond of them all Also as with the rwcent nerf to recoil reduction while standind prone and etc... just why why would you do that noone had said anything at all about recoil bwing a problem and yet you choose to spend time and resources on a change that noone even talked about slightly

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Yeah, I get that feeling and I understand it completely. It's very sad to see what has happened to Arrowhead. They had a huge success and literally threw it all away. True shame. Thanks for sharing your opinion.

for me, it's the progression system, there's simply nothing left to grind other than Warbounds, or waiting for new modules to spend samples on. After you reach the maximum of everything, the feeling of having nothing to do is immense. Yeah, you can do campaigns, etc. But the progression is so small that it doesn't feel like you're doing anything useful, so for me having something to do at the end is much more important.

Needs better end game. We need special game modes/weapons/gear/planets for high level divers.

@RealAsianRobot

26 күн бұрын

I can agree on that. No end game is a little sucky

This is more of a natural take and I appreciate you staying objective. I joined thinking this was not a company that's politically driven, and the PSN account was not required as stated before May. Watched people get angry about the railgun and was concerned the changes were done too quickly. Arc Thrower recharge rate nerf was my personal gripe since misfires still occurred, and the range nerf was unnecessary. Learned about the balance team lead, suspected he enjoyed making things terrible, then proved it with the "witch-hunt" message. Getting banned for not toeing the propaganda line is what kept me from playing. If they all lose their job and die of hunger I will celebrate a world with less pollution.

6 weeks vacation is "Very" serious in Sweden, so much so they would not update nor do anything and I believe this would affect the playerbase negatively in this upcoming 6 weeks. So my answer to the question, I would like to play other games for now fighting to the frontline is burning me out. I need to have a break, and find that fun things on other games after that I might comeback again. Especially if they really release something big in the game again.

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

It's why I'm moving to The First Descendant as well, no point being here and wasting my time. I'll wait till they get serious enough to care.

I feel like it’s a bunch of things contributing to me not playing the game. The state of patches coming out bugged, and sometimes it felt like a big fix patch brought more bugs than before. I tried my best to power through, but the state of the galactic war just didn’t help. A succession of failed MOs because of the dwindling player count when the target numbers were set based on previous counts, and the inability for the player base to properly focus their efforts (not something Arrowhead can control I know, but they could do some things to assist which they eventually did like supply lines). Some MOs had interesting missions, but seeing the coordination they needed turned me off from wanting to play with random people. Following that the recent mediocre warbonds just pushed me further away. While I haven’t actually played in a while I’ve been watching your streams enough to feel up to date with the state of the game. When you covered the big patch my reaction at the end of it all was “cool, I’m just going to keep playing everything else”.

Because they cling to that "a game for everyone is a game for no one" like it's life or death. A game for no one is a game for no one, you need to make the game for some or no one will want to play. They are making a game for them only and using that quote as a shield when people say they don't like it. Dark souls worked using the "a game for everyone, is a game for no one" because lots of people liked the challenge for the type of game it was. Helldivers is taking a dive because too many people don't like the arbitrary challenges created for the type of game that it is. The last patch was a step in the right direction for me, but for them to fully take hold of my gaming attention again, more things to do other than the same repetitive missions need to exist and most weapons still feel crappy to use due to either ammo economy or power limitations.

@RealAsianRobot

26 күн бұрын

I agree wholly with that. It's why I am promoting The First Descendant instead to EVERYONE that I know. Not just because I am an official content creator for Nexon, but because they genuinely want a power fantasy for players and the devs themselves have stated ON VIDEO that they want the game to be great so players can enjoy it thoroughly and grow alongside the game.

As someone that can only play a few hours a week and only got the game about a month ago i am still playing even if i can only get a single solo dive in-between the baby's naps at night i am enjoying the game

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

I'm glad to hear it. Folks like you will be the last ones keeping this game alive at the end.

The game is great, when it works 30% of the time, the only problem is the development or the management, prioritizing the wrong things instead of actually fixing bugs. In the latest patch they say "Fix for crash happening when players with unique hellpod patterns leave during hellpod launch cutscenes." which i was getting without having any hellpod patterns and still get, not at the same frequency but i still got crashes during helldiving also they introduced new crashes which i wasn't getting pre-patch, those crashes happen during the mission, especially at mission start when i deploy my support gear like Quasar Cannon and Shield Pack, i never got a crash during gameplay before the patch. The spawn rate is still horrible sometimes is ok but sometimes i feel like i'm playing "They are billions", 4 chargers at the same time or 3 Bile Titans and 4 chargers and a billion smaller enemies (i always play on suicide level of difficulty) and it feels like . I wish this game got better so i can enjoy it properly, i wish they would get their shit together and stop releasing Warbonds for at least half year and focus on creating a proper QA team and fix the freaking issues.oy it properly, i wish they would get their shit together and stop releasing Warbonds for at least half year and focus strictly on fixing bugs.

Fundamentally the game is amazing I've clocked over 500 hours and just want to play other things. With big expansions to stuff like Elden Ring coming out, the release of XDefiant and in the future The First Descendant and Space Marine 2 people are just going to want to check out those games and that's perfectly ok. Arrowhead knew this would happen going into release and that's why they population-proofed the Liberation campaigns to scale inversely player populations. When we have 20-30K ppl online they are punching for the same weight as 100k+ ppl so honestly I'm not worried and will be back once the itch needs scratching again

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing your opinion. I've clocked close to 800 hours myself but I have a very different opinion right now. The game itself has fun concepts, but is fundamentally broken and in severe need of fixing. It needs to be balanced around Helldive (which was intended as a challenge) but honestly needs to be geared for the casual players. I've literally seen the idea that players will be back to "scratch the itch". But all that results in is barely one weekend of play while people focus on their main game holding their attention. Sure they adjusted the liberation system, but a comparatively low player count affects more than just the game. It affects future sales and also monetization for the game with players being less willing to spend on something that has no hype around it. Helldivers is awesome in it's own way, but as a live service (in my eyes). It has failed hard and I hope they understand and adjust for this.

@TheDubDisciple

27 күн бұрын

@@RealAsianRobot I think you have to remove yourself from the content creator perspective. No game is ever going to be able to, indefinitely, sustain the same player base it had at launch and fundamentally this is a $20 indie game that threw up some very fancy imagery and RP mechanics into the game that allowed ppl to immerse themselves in the title and get far more longevity and frankly $$ then the game is really worth. I love Helldivers 2 and think it’s succeeded in every possible metric besides maybe as you said technical debt. They do seem to have an issue with fixing problems and having those problems stay fixed in subsequent patches

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

@TheDubDisciple I agree with the idea that I should remove myself from that perspective, but the longer I spend in this industry, the more I see how crucial it is to have content creators hyping and promoting your game. When there were 100s of creators playing this game everyday, it was all anyone ever talked about. Now there's just a few and that's that. It is true that no game can be sustained indefinitely, but that's why I'm hoping that my other projects can keep going while I wait for this to revive. I just don't want this to absolutely die, which (because it is just an indie game), it might well do. I don't want that future for this game, because of how much it has given me.

@shrektheogre4118

27 күн бұрын

That's something I didn't like. We are struggling to win this major order! Well, not like it matters if I play or not. When I leave, the war effort accommodates me being gone, so the progress will move regardless of if I play or not

@TheDubDisciple

27 күн бұрын

@@RealAsianRobot I think this is just a part of games being the products they are. Most titles give their studios a one-time cash infusion when they are fully released but adding on new content after the fact always seems to be a venture of losing money. In the long run I think we will see new factions get added in helldivers and like large content drops from other games these will help give it a shot in the arm without forcing Arrowhead to charge everyone another $20 for a dlc. This keeps the game profitable on their side due to frankly not having to due large content drops only a fraction of the launch day population might pay for

I still play. However, I play more efficiently. I also play Medium missions between Helldives for Super Credits, and still see many newer, low level players. I think most have hung up their capes for the following reasons: 1) Lack of mission types. There's only so many times you can Launch an ICBM, Evac people, or bring a purple box from point A to point B. 2) Too much focus on Terminids. We've had Termicide, Dark Fluid, and Hive Buster missions. Yet, nothing for Automatons, which makes fighting them unrewarding. 3) Aggravating Gamemaster dynamic. In the last several weeks, we've had nothing but defense and liberation missions. It's really frustrating to completely liberate a map, and then have the GM just decide to reset the map. It trivializes player effort. 4) Forced Meta. Despite their best efforts, players continue to use the same weapons and strategems they become familiar with and are most efficient. There are many exciting new combinations to try, for instance, the Peak Physique/Exploding Crossbow/HMG combo. However again, the Warbond focused on Terminids. Bring that over to Automatons, and it's a hard time. Also not every player is a 1%er.

I'm not sure I've ever played a game that I wanted to play so bad but seemed to try and deter me from playing at every turn lol. :/ I've gotten nearly 400 hours into the game and it's gotten hard to login. The main issues are the stale loadouts, even after the new patch the meta didn't change enough to really change things up as far as primaries and secondaries, turrets, some eagles and orbitals got some great QoL, but it just wasn't enough. We waited so long for the major patch and warbond and it just kinda felt underwhelming across the board. Lots of good changes don't get me wrong, but it just felt like they weren't the changes we desperately needed, and it barely made any new loadouts/weapons truly viable in a fun way. The second issue is that there is no way for us to use capped currencies, I've been capped on every currency outside of super samples for ages, I had hoped there would be a currency dump of some sort implemented. Once you are capped on everything the only thing left driving you to play the game is enjoyment and fun, problem is they seem determined to wring both of those things out of the game with every change they make. The nerfs to weapons are always substantial and the buffs to weapons always seem to be inconsequential, slowly just making the game feel a bit more stale little by little. Hopefully the clan system if they get it out soon would give players capped on currencies a way to donate or use them in the process of leveling up and upgrading a clan base of some sort as a way to breathe some life back into diving for those that haven't had a purpose for diving in a while due to capped resources. Also, side note...please give us an alternative currency for Major Orders if we're capped on medals, it's hard to get motivated and put in hours and hours into grinding for the MO when the reward is always 0 medals, 50 super credits? No? 25? Heck, just something I'm not capped on so that I can motivate myself to help. :/ A lot of people myself included have been holding out hope for a long time, we put a lot of faith into the last major patch and it sadly didn't live up to what many were expecting even at the bare minimum to bring. From that day I tried out some new loadouts, played a bit, but it just feels like the hope is gone. They deprived us of nearly a month worth of patches to give us a super patch to fix everything, but it was...for lack of a better word disappointing, so now a lot of us that have been holding on for so long are fading away, the balance devs and those making the content don't share a vision for the game that a majority of players have, they don't have their fingers on the pulse of the playerbase and are content to just keep doing things their own way come what may. In short, meaningless buffs, severely impactful nerfs, plenty of bugs, no endgame/currency dump and a balance/dev team that seems to have a different vision of the game from a majority of helldivers themselves and an unwillingness to work with helldivers to reach a happy medium. I'll still play every few days when I get the itch, but it honestly does just kinda feel like we've been left out to dry and got told to either "git gud" or get lost. I hope that changes in the future, because this was one of the most enjoyable gaming experiences I've had in over 20 years of gaming and it hurts to see it deteriorate to such a state. Hopefully see you planet-side fellow divers, kill bugs, spill oil. o7

What happened was they built a great community, engaged and made gamers feel heard on top of a fun game and destroyed ppls trust and had the no fun policy.... what a let down

I haven’t left, but after 350 hours I finally took a break because I’m maxed on absolutely everything, and just playing for playing’s sake has gotten a bit stale. I look forward to coming back as soon as there’s more to do/earn.

@RealAsianRobot

26 күн бұрын

Understandable, hopefully they drop more content eventually

for me I'm doing a 100% walkthrough on Elden ring also once they make the game more for us, weapons more fun, things to unlock they just need to bless us more and less nerfs and underwhelming updates and WB. but i still hop on when there is new stuff to spend my creds on.

They need to give more options to spend medals and resources for things, even if they are cosmetic, or ship furniture. Once capped on these the only real thing to grind is SC, and on the lower difficulties to get the most for time (after playing mostly on levels 7-9), it just burns people out.

even if they bring in the illuminate, that doesnt mean more players as the illuminate are known for been the hardest faction i think and once the initial phase of a "new enemy" wears off its just more of the same with a different look at the end of the day, same with the new forest biome, its just another planet to run from point a to b and shoot stuff inbetween

SPM doesn’t work again. Nothing works. It feels random. So annoying.

Was thinking about the MO about the automaton database on wasat... it was so important we learned nothing from it...

@RealAsianRobot

26 күн бұрын

Haha right? It was super critical

Exactly as you stated, they've killed the fun. Gunship patrols are fine 90% of the time, but the times they aren't is debilitating and incredibly unfun. Re releasing the same AR with 7 variants is just lazy and they are all garbo. Viper commandos was just a stab to the gut... They said they were changing the focus to player fun and then give less weapons that are utter garbage AND skins for things nobody ever sees. Just want everyone wants is a skin for the pelican that shows up once a mission or hellpods that you immediately leave the vicinity off.

The game climaxed after we beat the automatons. People were putting in so many hours to push them back and beat them. And then…they just brought them back within like 24 hours. “Oh yeah they’re back they actually went to a new area” If our progress is meaningless then there’s no point of playing or working together on anything

@RealAsianRobot

18 күн бұрын

Agreed

Honestly they need to fix a couple of things, first all the bugs that happen such as the fling glitches, clipping through the map, disable patrols such as gunship patrols when there are gunship fabricators, or put a massive cd cause they are constanty spammed, special enemies within patrols need a nerf, and each patrol has the capability of calling in reinforcements, put a massive cd on that, also the same for those patrols that come from drop ships can call in more ships, too many enemies like that is bs, also we lack weapon variety, if they brought back all the weapons from helldivers 1 and added more weapons that served actual purpose and does meaningful damage the game would be fun, no customization variety or vanity when it comes to guns and armor, certain passives are stuck on certain armors, let us switch passives, customize our guns, add in armor upgrades, weapon upgrades, strategem upgrades and customization, vehicles, once they fix their maps add in vehicles, would be cool if we could call in the evac ship for air support, and have Eagle One patrol the sky to keep the air clear for a bit, stuff like that would make the game hella more fun.

Thanks robot sensei for speaking out🙏🙏 we could feel the Disappointment together.😔 Looking at the players drop let a men cry with no tears. Still doubt Devs really listening to what their players feedbacks or not. Is a PVE game and they nerfed ANYTHING, the FUN, the player base. and they took so long time to COOK a small "dish" which also a "dish" that sacrifice its player base. Sorry devs, for me, you are not listening , could not believe a company who don't take opportunity when their own product was successful. Yeah we could sound complaining but it seems you just don't care people who really support you

Before seeing what you said. I started playing Helldivers 2 weeks ago. I am lvl 13. But i can already see the repetitiveness. If i wouldn't play with my buddies, i would have stopped already. The game needs a bit more diversity. And the character progression needs a lot more depth. Give me Ammo types, Let me pimp and Upgrade my gun. Let me chose was resistances and armor type my armor has. Let me chose the Feature the armor got. Give me visual/audio upgrade with the helmet. Make the cape somewhat useful. Give me options for melee weapons. Give me more information about a planet (for a price) so that i can bring the perfect load out that suits my style. ship modules should be stronger but i should need to chose to bring one over another. I remember the first Bile Titan, it was awesome, but since then.... I wish there were more "Raid"-caliber Special Bugs, that need a different tactic each and every time. I think all of that might eventually come, but i believe it's coming out too slow and people get bored doing the same thing over and over again without any competitiveness.

@RealAsianRobot

25 күн бұрын

I agree with that. They definitely lack in terms of progression and endgame, grinding repetitive games need growth or a reason to grind for. It's why I hope you and your friends will check out "The First Descendant". It's not just because I am an official content creator for that game, but it's because the devs themselves want players to have their power fantasy and they want players to truly enjoy the end game looter shooter grind 😁. That said, I hope Helldivers 2 will revive, but it might be a genuine waiting game

It would be nice to not have to deal with constant disconnects. At the very least they should add a rejoin button.

Why don’t AH use major order to test out weapons, gear, and biomes?

@RealAsianRobot

27 күн бұрын

We suggested this, they never listened