Why Are Enthusiast Cars So Expensive?

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The car tax is something every enthusiast will be familiar with: it's the reason why 240SXs, Supras, Civics, E36s, old 5.0s, and every other cool car you might want to buy, is so expensive. So let's talk about it.
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  • @RatAvenue
    @RatAvenue3 жыл бұрын

    "Why are enthusiast cars so expensive?" Casually looking over to KZread top 10 cheapest enthusiast cars lists. I'm looking at you Donut Media.

  • @CrazyAsisan24

    @CrazyAsisan24

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same thing with Ideal Media too. don't get me wrong love the car KZread channels and some social media kinda ruin the price for them.

  • @luchadorito

    @luchadorito

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I love Donut but the artificial market hype the trend of top 10 lists on the internet creates in any market is a menace on enthusiasts of anything. A few years back when I started getting in to wristwatches I almost bought a vintage Seiko 6138-3002 'Jumbo' chronograph for less than 150$USD in my local currency which at the time was an average price in facebook groups and whatnot. A couple years of some fucking dorks with youtube channels yapping about how the 6138 and 6139 movements are God's Greatest Gifts to earth or whatever and the cheapest Jumbo starts at 700$ USD. I really wish I bought that fucking watch when I had the chance cuz Im not going to pay that kind of money for a Seiko no matter how much I like them. Similarly, I really wish I had the chance to buy certain cars which are no longer reasonably priced.

  • @martinbernath

    @martinbernath

    3 жыл бұрын

    Overhyping the same 10 cars for years isnt doing any good. People should open their eyes, there is so many different and in many cases better cars than the ones you see in every video.

  • @CrazyAsisan24

    @CrazyAsisan24

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@martinbernath that and also engine too. Heck 2jz-gte are getting ridiculous.

  • @bkphil89

    @bkphil89

    3 жыл бұрын

    ADAM FUCKING LZ

  • @zachyurkus
    @zachyurkus3 жыл бұрын

    Haven’t even watched the vid yet...but the answer is supply and demand.

  • @fifteen.8029

    @fifteen.8029

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nah bro there’s a magical tax that is applied to cool cars by the car gods just to f*ck with us

  • @SataniaMcDowel

    @SataniaMcDowel

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree. Supply and demand is there is to it. They KNOW people will pay to own one.

  • @vili9216

    @vili9216

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well yeah, supply and demand make up every single price basically, except for non- mass produced goods

  • @robsonbobson7839

    @robsonbobson7839

    3 жыл бұрын

    literally came here to write this hahaha

  • @zachyurkus

    @zachyurkus

    3 жыл бұрын

    I used to be into 240’s. Now I’m into is300’s for the past bunch of years and they are starting to skyrocket now too

  • @AlexAlex-uq2lh
    @AlexAlex-uq2lh3 жыл бұрын

    the prices go up because now, finally, the generation that was growing up on fast and furious, need for speed and a bunch other icon stuff, finally can afford it and it reminds them of their childhood and it becomes something priceless to them all

  • @joshuakhaos4451

    @joshuakhaos4451

    3 жыл бұрын

    Everyones all about the 90s nostalgia now, But I still remember some cool shit from the 2000s. There were in fact cool cars from the 2000s that are still attainable. But their time isn't here yet. Oh yeah, Good luck on getting a cheap, Stock SRT4 lol. Let alone a cheap modified one. I havent seen a stock one since at least 09.

  • @ShaiyanHossain

    @ShaiyanHossain

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuakhaos4451 give it 10 years and stock SRt4s will sell for $25k if not already

  • @F82_

    @F82_

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuakhaos4451 i seen some starting at 4k on offerup

  • @nabeelshaikh1103

    @nabeelshaikh1103

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to initial d

  • @dannyrocket77

    @dannyrocket77

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep just like my dad's niche on 50's and 60's hotrods

  • @HNRichard
    @HNRichard3 жыл бұрын

    Me as an old car enthusiast living in a country with strict import laws: "First time?"

  • @fritzbautista5933

    @fritzbautista5933

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ey Im crying on this comment because you can only import it as parts

  • @sushilolpee7894

    @sushilolpee7894

    3 жыл бұрын

    Singapore moment

  • @shadowaj5757

    @shadowaj5757

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sushilolpee7894 yup relate too much to that

  • @Nighthawk_r33

    @Nighthawk_r33

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fritzbautista5933 Not in the U.S. once a car that is not in compliance with the emission law is 25 years old, then it is exempt from that law and can be legally imported. I own an R33.

  • @VestedUTuber

    @VestedUTuber

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Nighthawk_r33 Emission laws are 20 years in the US. It's the NHTSA safety regulations that get an exemption after 25 years - or if it's a US domestic model, because the NHTSA's safety regulations are actually only applied to imports in order to protect dealerships in the US from "scary wrong bad" competition.

  • @NekoWinters
    @NekoWinters3 жыл бұрын

    Luke has chills level of narration but a voice that doesn't sound like a cheese grater to the eardrum

  • @carlslater8843
    @carlslater88433 жыл бұрын

    Just as bad with classic cars from the 60’s as well. Never would of thought a mk 1 Austin mini could push £35.000

  • @robbalinski1606

    @robbalinski1606

    3 жыл бұрын

    Especially when there's a company with the original sheet metal stamps making brand new 60's shells......

  • @carlslater8843

    @carlslater8843

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yea that company also works with other shops to build the car to customer specifications as well. I think the insane price comes with the cars originality however. I mean I’m currently watching a series where the guys concourse restoring a Cooper s and he’s paying £30 for ONE clip so his sun visor can clip into place😂

  • @jh565bb

    @jh565bb

    3 жыл бұрын

    Only for a cooper S, my brother had one, it's insane.

  • @jh565bb

    @jh565bb

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you want really rare though, good luck finding singer gazelles, triumph italias and sunbeam rapier.

  • @scottex.

    @scottex.

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeah but it's a cooper s, other normal ones even if really clean never go above 15k, atleast where i am

  • @JaisEdelmann
    @JaisEdelmann3 жыл бұрын

    "Don't hoard parts for money" meanwhile having multiple Supra's in the background

  • @michaelrivera2080

    @michaelrivera2080

    3 жыл бұрын

    Foreal, he's part of the fucking problem, talking about needing parts but has 3 supras that needs parts!

  • @salogel88

    @salogel88

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly

  • @jackarmstrong7285

    @jackarmstrong7285

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tbf ones his car, ones his wifes and he’s rebuilding an old wrecked one as well. He’s using the cars

  • @AlphaAce15

    @AlphaAce15

    3 жыл бұрын

    If he is using them, it is not hoarding.

  • @happyguy5025

    @happyguy5025

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AlphaAce15 He's driving all three at once? Superhuman!

  • @lowboidrifting9096
    @lowboidrifting90963 жыл бұрын

    KZreadrs can be to blame for this as well (as well as supply and demand)

  • @robbalinski1606

    @robbalinski1606

    3 жыл бұрын

    hit the nail on the head there!

  • @admiralasia5982
    @admiralasia59823 жыл бұрын

    My man literally explaining the sneaker culture to a tea

  • @0Heeroyuy01

    @0Heeroyuy01

    3 жыл бұрын

    iv never understood the sneaker culture or this stupid shit they talked about in the video. i get if you have a couple from projects or old cars holding onto them but this shit, and stuff like barret jackson can all burn in hell

  • @rogehmarbi

    @rogehmarbi

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've been hearing a lot about sneakers from browsing about scalped computer parts prices Never really been in the sneakers world, I wear TNF all day long, but from what I've heard it's pretty horrible over there

  • @stann.3408

    @stann.3408

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@0Heeroyuy01 the sneaker culture and car culture is pretty much the exact same in terms of complaints, which models get overhyped, manual vs auto in the sneaker world to me would probably be OGs vs Retros. People buy up sneakers and put em in a storage, like cars. People take decade old shoes and restore em, just like cars. Sneaker meet ups are always available, entry level is pretty low bc all you need is the passion and knowledge

  • @admiralasia5982

    @admiralasia5982

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rogehmarbi Jordan’s were supposed to be affordable and people were supposed to be able to get them. Now there’s people out there with programs that add as many shoes to the cart as possible and then turn around and sell the shoes for five times retail. In all reality sneakers for most is just a form of expression just like car culture.

  • @Trussme96

    @Trussme96

    3 жыл бұрын

    Its the resale/pre owned market in general. Whether its Supreme clothing or S-Chassis parts, its all about how much supply exists and how much people are willing to pay in the moment to procure them.

  • @kenji642
    @kenji6423 жыл бұрын

    this is why i stopped liking "enthusiasts cars" and found my niche in 1980s\90s econoboxes.

  • @onelyone6976

    @onelyone6976

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yup, 30 year old shitboxes are the best ;)

  • @RobertMilat

    @RobertMilat

    3 жыл бұрын

    The answer to all of this is Civc

  • @chriss2412

    @chriss2412

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RobertMilat I thought the answer is always Miata? Jk jk

  • @wimmj6952

    @wimmj6952

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RobertMilat dont forget the camry, shares a ton with the celica and mr2, im building one now, even with no power and gutted to a crazy amount is a ton of fun. $350 well spent. Got big plans for it down the road.

  • @zoenayru

    @zoenayru

    3 жыл бұрын

    E30’s are clean - but good luck finding one for a decent price or condition

  • @willpoirier8087
    @willpoirier80873 жыл бұрын

    "Why are enthusiast cars so expensive?" Haha $500 Volvo go brrrrr

  • @adrianpolinski9600

    @adrianpolinski9600

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's literally any Volvo with the exception of the 04-07 S60R's and V70R's, and also the 850R's

  • @RyanRoadReaper

    @RyanRoadReaper

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@adrianpolinski9600 Dont forget the few S80 V8's. Although I think they're too modern to gain any sort of value, but they're still expensive.

  • @42ftp

    @42ftp

    3 жыл бұрын

    glad my $450 shitbox was included haha

  • @mohis5664

    @mohis5664

    3 жыл бұрын

    haha my volvo 850 t5r go broom broom

  • @ocallaghan3865

    @ocallaghan3865

    3 жыл бұрын

    Any kei car hatchback

  • @caalcb7
    @caalcb73 жыл бұрын

    In my humble opinion, you don't need an enthusiastic cars to be recognised as car enthusiasts. As long you enthusiastic about your cars whatever it is, you ARE an car enthusiasts.

  • @TheSpekkel1

    @TheSpekkel1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Truer words haven't been said. Some people prefer odd and uncommom cars, not neceseraly rare and expensive, but for example old saabs. Those are great and really interesting cars, with heaps of tech used, not really found on other cars and most people can't say for sure are they fwd or rdw cars, or any other details, so it great :D

  • @hankscorpio6924

    @hankscorpio6924

    3 жыл бұрын

    Iv met all types of Car Enthusiasts From Ferrari to Fiat, whatever floats your boats and makes you happy do it. My cars is not everybodies Cup of tea but I tell ya what when I park and walk off I can't help but look back in admiration even when I start it in the morning I'll walk around and admire it for a second or 2.

  • @Incendia

    @Incendia

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fully agree, but these models bring a lot of street cred and fame, and lots of people want to be worshipped for them, hence the demand.

  • @user-ys9to2ie7k

    @user-ys9to2ie7k

    3 жыл бұрын

    ...a!

  • @zoenayru
    @zoenayru3 жыл бұрын

    3-D printer owners in the future : “ stonks📈”

  • @maddyxmyelstrom9643

    @maddyxmyelstrom9643

    3 жыл бұрын

    3D Printed or manufacture remade OEM Plastics and such (like what we're seeing with the miata now and mazda remaking parts) cannot get here fast enough imo

  • @lynnmckenney1987

    @lynnmckenney1987

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's what I keep wondering, when can I just print my own door card instead of hunting junkyards for months and paying exorbitant fees?

  • @snevarez31

    @snevarez31

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lynnmckenney1987 you can do it now at a fairly cheap price you would just need to print it into multiple pieces. There is a steep learning curve to do it though but it is very possible. I’m doing this with Subarus right now

  • @gearheadlydia

    @gearheadlydia

    3 жыл бұрын

    The smart money in the collector car market would be on pivoting toward conservation - digitize literally everything, so that parts can be re-manufactured in the future with advanced production techniques. It might not do much now, but one day, when we have true carbon-neutral fuel, we'll be able to bring back a lot of cars and car parts that otherwise would have been lost to time.

  • @VestedUTuber

    @VestedUTuber

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gearheadlydia Problem with digitizing everything for profit is that eventually someone else is going to do what you did and post it for free. And unlike with creative works you can't fall back on copyright to protect your business.

  • @jacklougheed4561
    @jacklougheed45613 жыл бұрын

    For reference to the “tax” see 426 hemi parts. A “hemi block” is $14000 CAD w/o a rotating assembly. Any mopar parts are expensive, but hemi stuff is wild.

  • @androiduberalles

    @androiduberalles

    3 жыл бұрын

    "It's spherical!" - Josh Nichols

  • @joshuakhaos4451

    @joshuakhaos4451

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well a large chunk of the Hemi taxes buyer base is about to go over the demographic cliff here in the near future. So I doubt it will stay as high as it is.

  • @ziadkabbani4479

    @ziadkabbani4479

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuakhaos4451 and then I can finally get me a 526 hemi lol fr though hemis will be alot cheaper than rotaries sooner or later, so big sad moment lol

  • @TensionalSpy

    @TensionalSpy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mopar tax has always been a thing and goes across the board with dodge. Learned that with first gen neons.

  • @Trussme96

    @Trussme96

    3 жыл бұрын

    The thing about the classic muscle car market is that the prices are meant for the 1%'ers who hoard all the cars and parts in a hangar and never drive anything the own. Barrett Jackson exists for a reason.

  • @brendod.c.7359
    @brendod.c.73593 жыл бұрын

    I like how the guy who openly stated that he is buying up whatever remaining Supras he can also complains about how wrong it is to do the same thing with rare parts...

  • @spaghetti5038

    @spaghetti5038

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. Wtf does he need 3 supras for

  • @Skorpse

    @Skorpse

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that made no sense to me. I'd never sell a Supra to a Supra collector, I'd rather more people enjoyed them than one single person hoarding up such rare cars.

  • @XxLilMexixanxX

    @XxLilMexixanxX

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@spaghetti5038 Lol pat attention to the video he only has 2 one is his other is his wife’s and red one is his friend. Watch his YT pure function

  • @benjaminmcintosh857

    @benjaminmcintosh857

    3 жыл бұрын

    But at least he drives and buys them bc he enjoys the cars, not hoarding/scalping with the sole intention of reselling for an insane price - which was his complaint against parts hoarders

  • @nothinghere7391
    @nothinghere73913 жыл бұрын

    Let's remember that japanese manufacturers are starting to produce parts for their cult classics

  • @TheprodigyTrickShot

    @TheprodigyTrickShot

    3 жыл бұрын

    They need to reproduce parts for S chassis, though most of them can’t afford it and complain about prices

  • @amauri_dleon7726

    @amauri_dleon7726

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think only nissan is doing this dough.

  • @witw972

    @witw972

    3 жыл бұрын

    Toyota made parts for a70 supra, mostly plastic and moldings.

  • @akramishmael5604

    @akramishmael5604

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@amauri_dleon7726 mazda as well

  • @jmirsp4z

    @jmirsp4z

    3 жыл бұрын

    honda has just started doing some parts for the beat again..

  • @swaroopajit
    @swaroopajit3 жыл бұрын

    5:56 that self-realisation cracked me up xD

  • @PureFunction

    @PureFunction

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s crazy man, the cost of this stuff is nuts!

  • @guillaumejoop6437
    @guillaumejoop64373 жыл бұрын

    when even the NA miata got expensive af, I lost a bit of the love I had for cars cause the symbol of the inexpensive sports car just shattered and the dream just became a bit more unattainable

  • @drodes

    @drodes

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I had two and I won’t pay today’s prices so moved on to something else.

  • @kylesoler4139

    @kylesoler4139

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why do you want a NA? Just get a NB or a NC.

  • @mrvroom4282

    @mrvroom4282

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, sadly i lost my love for jdm cars and started liking old and modern American cars because at least you can afford them.

  • @guillaumejoop6437

    @guillaumejoop6437

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kylesoler4139 pop up man, love pop up

  • @georgew.hayduke4481

    @georgew.hayduke4481

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm in the same boat. Air-cooled VWs, specifically bugs, were always obtainable to someone who was willing to put in a little time and savings for one. $5k for anything pre-1970 was often the most you'd pay, anything after was usually $3-4k. The barriers to entry were incredibly low, the only real barrier being that you'd almost certainly have to learn how to do at least basic maintenance in order to keep it running. Everyone who was willing to be dedicated was welcome to the air-cooled world. Today that is no longer so. Bugs are usually 10k for anything that runs or isn't completely rusted out. Buses are $20k for rusted wrecks and a running pre '68 bus starts at $30k and goes up from there. This was mostly due to wealthy types coming in and buying up or bidding up the cars that came up for sale, televised/streaming auctions also didn't help. People started demaning 7x more than what they were asking before for something because they saw something at Mecum go for $85K. Now when I encounter a nice air-cooled, I don't want to meet the owner. You can spot the cars that have been owned by the same person for years, and those people are usually worth talking to, but if it's something (overly) nice I just pass it by. I hate the fact that the car I bought for $3k six years ago is now worth $16k because someone like me is never going to be able to allowed entry to the air-cooled world ever again. The car for the masses is now only for the elite.

  • @sdlausen1
    @sdlausen13 жыл бұрын

    Throw in the Honda s2000 and Lexus ISF. Prices are out the roof!

  • @ocallaghan3865

    @ocallaghan3865

    3 жыл бұрын

    Currently the Rx7s that america of course can't get yet in britian are 20K

  • @sdlausen1

    @sdlausen1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ocallaghan3865 It's probably due to what car class it's considered in Britain. Insurance is probably really high for an RX7 there. That alone would eliminate a lot of prospective buyers lowering it's value due to lower demand.

  • @terryyee4271
    @terryyee42713 жыл бұрын

    This guy sounds like he's giving a high school presentation

  • @SL-ht1nu
    @SL-ht1nu3 жыл бұрын

    Welcome Luke! Great first impression. Can't wait to see more content like this.

  • @swaroopajit
    @swaroopajit3 жыл бұрын

    Loving the energy Luke gives off, hope we see him in videos more often.

  • @Kevc-wm8yi
    @Kevc-wm8yi3 жыл бұрын

    This isn't limited to JDM vehicles. It's all about supply and demand.

  • @Indskret

    @Indskret

    2 жыл бұрын

    Like even shitty non running E30’s cost like 2 to 3 grand

  • @Planexpert90
    @Planexpert903 жыл бұрын

    "To a kid like me" *Pats car* made me grin so big.

  • @skyty0
    @skyty03 жыл бұрын

    I used to have a clean NA Miata that I bought with a rubber band and some lint in my pocket. That was two years ago. Now I can't find a working one for less than 6k :(

  • @MADLITS1K

    @MADLITS1K

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just commented this lol in 2015 I brought a 94 miata black with tan interior Jackson racing intake and exhaust racing wheels for 3k my buddy had a m edition he picked up for around 4500. Now a clapped miata is 9k LOL

  • @emerandu

    @emerandu

    3 жыл бұрын

    U can thank media's such as Instagram n Tik tok for that they not only turned the car community toxic they also are sky rocketing the prices for undercover cars that are insanely fun to drive some being crown Vicks, Mazda 6speed hatch, lucky me my dream car is under the cover and I hope it stays there for pure enthusiasts to grab a hold of n not ego boosters

  • @MADLITS1K

    @MADLITS1K

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@emerandu better hope some youtuber doesn’t get it and milk it dry for content

  • @emerandu

    @emerandu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MADLITS1K I don't mind them making content out of it just don't ruin it for everyone else By giving it clout

  • @illipticaltm6550

    @illipticaltm6550

    3 жыл бұрын

    My dad got a nb for like 400 sure it was auto but it worked and we have had it for three years

  • @tonimartinovic5552
    @tonimartinovic55523 жыл бұрын

    Dude has no respect for part hoarders, yet buys 3 supras

  • @xavierjordaan2366

    @xavierjordaan2366

    3 жыл бұрын

    was searching for this comment xD

  • @AwesomeCanadian212

    @AwesomeCanadian212

    3 жыл бұрын

    I thought this too but there is a good counterpoint, he's actually using them and not just garaging them

  • @walterharris6191

    @walterharris6191

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yea but he also said he's trying to buy them up which might have been phrasing but I don't agree with the need to have multiple of the same car especially rare ones

  • @walterharris6191

    @walterharris6191

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean I get a his and hers type thing but then that and a this one is rare color and this one is my Wednesday car and this one is whatever excuse..it's just a slippery slope

  • @B0F

    @B0F

    3 жыл бұрын

    it's not like he needs the parts either, he's talking about himself

  • @MaxiKrenski
    @MaxiKrenski3 жыл бұрын

    It's even worse outside of the US, where everything car related is dirt cheap. Here in germany you must be a millionaire to own a V8

  • @shirool1142

    @shirool1142

    3 жыл бұрын

    people in germany are very lucky though

  • @MaxiKrenski

    @MaxiKrenski

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shirool1142 To live yes ,but not as a car Guy.

  • @superwaifu2085

    @superwaifu2085

    3 жыл бұрын

    In Brazil you must be rich just to afford an 8 valve 4 cylinder sports car 😅😅

  • @mintyzee3000
    @mintyzee30003 жыл бұрын

    Still remember leaving a note on a 240sx I seen in a apt parking lot, owner called me back and I drove it home for $600 in 2014. Completely stock.

  • @Trussme96

    @Trussme96

    3 жыл бұрын

    I almost had a chance at getting an AE86 Levin for 2 grand in my neighborhood. Only reason I didn't get it was cause I had nowhere to store it.

  • @jizzyg1559

    @jizzyg1559

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Trussme96 For 2 grand I'd fucking drove into my bedroom. I'd park it on the grass and cover it with my own body, to shield it from rain and snow.

  • @shirool1142

    @shirool1142

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Trussme96 your garage or driveway no?

  • @Trussme96

    @Trussme96

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shirool1142 i was parking my one car in my sister's visitors parking cause I had no where else to stay at the time.

  • @Yohannesb9

    @Yohannesb9

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lollll

  • @bosukamou3740
    @bosukamou37403 жыл бұрын

    One of those sad things because younger enthusiasts as myself might not be able to enjoy the joys found in cars like these due to how much longer we'd have to wait before we can think on driving or working to save up for our over inflated dream cars.

  • @kensin0429
    @kensin04293 жыл бұрын

    And because of this video. Everything just went up about 5% is price.

  • @thespencel11
    @thespencel113 жыл бұрын

    Has anyone else noticed that the prices of all 80s and 90s BMWs have gone up solely because of E30 prices?

  • @keyokei

    @keyokei

    3 жыл бұрын

    a lot of people are settling for anything similar to the e30, and now everyone selling in the used market is catching on

  • @iheartgs400
    @iheartgs4003 жыл бұрын

    With the S-Chassis getting to point of unattainable status G35/G37 and 350/370z are starting to get to this point and I’m seeing the prices for good condition ones rise a bit. I jumped on the 370 train before it leaves the station I know it’ll come to a point the G/Z platform will get expensive eventually as well.

  • @Carlos.Rivera
    @Carlos.Rivera3 жыл бұрын

    "Enthusiasts" mean a hidden tax you need to pay

  • @tonerm4n
    @tonerm4n3 жыл бұрын

    My math teacher bought a ‘93 Supra many years ago for 5 grand. After a new engine, paint, wheels, body kit, and 20+ years, he sold it for 50k.

  • @fariskajevic7925

    @fariskajevic7925

    3 жыл бұрын

    LHD supras never went below 5K unless they were smoking trash heaps

  • @tonerm4n

    @tonerm4n

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fariskajevic7925 it was in pretty rough shape

  • @alchemyalchemist111

    @alchemyalchemist111

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great investment!

  • @Hobartthedolphinboy
    @Hobartthedolphinboy3 жыл бұрын

    It's only going to get worse, since today's cars are nearly all automatics.

  • @codenamecordon

    @codenamecordon

    3 жыл бұрын

    Luckily they still make brand new dogboxes

  • @georgew.hayduke4481

    @georgew.hayduke4481

    2 жыл бұрын

    Pretty much. The days of fun cars as most everyone knew it is coming to a close. After that, no matter what it is, it'll be the wealthy controlling and exchanging the last of the dwindling resources of functional examples of any given model.

  • @midasiscariot

    @midasiscariot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Most European cars are manual.

  • @kylesoler4139
    @kylesoler41393 жыл бұрын

    That's why you buy the shit no one else wants. It's not like you are going to be a better man with an A80 Supra anyway.

  • @Blakezilla594

    @Blakezilla594

    3 жыл бұрын

    RIP Lexus SC platform. Was relatively unknown 5 years ago, now all the drifters have raped them. All this pump-and-dump of over hype towards 20 year old JDM cars have pushed me to the path of the 2 wheeled variety.

  • @AthenaAutocross

    @AthenaAutocross

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just remember, someone doesn't want it for a reason. Being a poor platform or a lack of aftermarket parts. Doesn't mean you can't enjoy the car, but you'll sure pay a pretty penny for one off components.

  • @jax1079
    @jax10793 жыл бұрын

    I like how I'm sitting here editing my own work but I drop everything when Gears and Gasoline uploads. Haha! That's respecting the game. Excellent video, guys, and great point as well.

  • @paymya6130
    @paymya61303 жыл бұрын

    Sold my evo IV for 5k cad now the same car is worth 40k

  • @Carlos.Rivera

    @Carlos.Rivera

    3 жыл бұрын

    Initial d tax

  • @chriss2412

    @chriss2412

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dang, that sticks :( Imagine people in the early 90’s who sold their e30 m3’s for 10-15k just to see them skyrocket in price a few years later... wait, that’s pretty much exactly what happened to you. Sorry dude

  • @jo-qp7mz

    @jo-qp7mz

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's funny you say that I saw an EVO 3 in Canada the guy was willing to sell it in Washington and it was four grand USD it was beat to crap I seen it a month or two ago for 14 Grand just zip tied together you know kind of cleaned up but wow

  • @bingoberra18

    @bingoberra18

    3 жыл бұрын

    We have so many of the early evos here in sweden, they were mostly built for street/dragracing. What would be a realistic amount for a legit nice Evo 3 and GC8 STI Type-R v5 in canada atm? I dont see much love for them online. But the evo 1-3 was produced in only 5000 examples each. Thats in total as many early evos as there are R34 GTRs.

  • @tghidsgn

    @tghidsgn

    3 жыл бұрын

    In Canada, we can import cars not sold here after 15 years - the US is 25. You could get a nice Skyline GTR32 for around $10k back in the mid to late 2000s. As soon as they became legal in the states their prices doubled overnight. Dealers then wised up here and began hoarding R34s just to sell 'em to Americans for insane prices when they became legal.

  • @TR.Pixels
    @TR.Pixels3 жыл бұрын

    A great video that we definitely needed at this time where tuning and car culture has started shifting into more of a money game then it ever has before, especially in Australia where I live!

  • @carllindgren7130
    @carllindgren71303 жыл бұрын

    I bought a 97 impreza wagon for about 650 usd and I feel so far it was a reasonable purchase. As soon it's done I can start driving legally.

  • @StayOnTheGas

    @StayOnTheGas

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s awesome. You can watch a lot of first gen Impreza stuff on my channel 👍🏼 I own the blue one in this video and a coupe as well.... I think I need a wagon lol

  • @ballsackgameing
    @ballsackgameing3 жыл бұрын

    Haven't seen it yet but probably because of availability

  • @elijahstewart1333
    @elijahstewart13333 жыл бұрын

    80s/90s car: *is rwd* idiots who think that makes it worth $35k: allow me to introduce myself

  • @georgew.hayduke4481

    @georgew.hayduke4481

    2 жыл бұрын

    Spot. On.

  • @Strike86
    @Strike863 жыл бұрын

    Really love the content you guys have been making lately. Subjects like this, it can get pretty profound. Take my sub.

  • @thatonecarenthusiast8491
    @thatonecarenthusiast84913 жыл бұрын

    You're videos are so damn good. Something as simple as explaining supply and demand, you've somehow turned into a really well edited informational video

  • @b3nny90
    @b3nny903 жыл бұрын

    You missed one of the biggest reasons. Kids who grew up with these on their walls in their bedrooms are now cashed up enough to be able to start paying for them and affording them. Just like the generations before us who pay 6 figures for an old family car at an auction like a Plymouth or dodge etc. The demand is out there and the supply is limited but people are willing to throw everything at it to have their childhood dream cars

  • @khdaniely

    @khdaniely

    3 жыл бұрын

    And you are exactly right sir. The kids from the 80s and 90s are grown and got money.

  • @scourgeofbloodclan3986

    @scourgeofbloodclan3986

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@khdaniely really? aren't most of them in a TON of debt.

  • @SCE-ce9mh
    @SCE-ce9mh3 жыл бұрын

    So, it's scalpers all over again, there I go to modify my really common car

  • @renegadezaz
    @renegadezaz3 жыл бұрын

    Great video and really well put together. Nice job in the spotlight, Luke!

  • @TheGorillaBiker
    @TheGorillaBiker3 жыл бұрын

    Great video Luke!!

  • @tristantuyn8703
    @tristantuyn87033 жыл бұрын

    I like luke. Deff wouldn't mind seeing him more on the channel. Good job #noHomo

  • @SummonerArthur

    @SummonerArthur

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is that van yours? Nice patina!

  • @tristantuyn8703

    @tristantuyn8703

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SummonerArthur thx, I used to own it, deff was one of the rarest sights on the road, sold it for a toyota starlet and a vw beetle, but I kinda crave the van because the space is just so handy and it's rare to see something like it

  • @professorweds
    @professorweds3 жыл бұрын

    Supra tax is crazy right now. I’ve never felt more anxiety driving than now.

  • @ufd1826

    @ufd1826

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don’t even drive and I feel you, if someone even bumps you that’s $1,000s for a small ding

  • @HKS508
    @HKS5083 жыл бұрын

    I knew, there's always good messages that Gears & Gasoline brings, that's why I think it's worth to watch!

  • @seanbarney7138
    @seanbarney71383 жыл бұрын

    Love the work Luke did on this, can't wait to see more!

  • @mightbesherwood1313
    @mightbesherwood13133 жыл бұрын

    Pretty ironic that the aftermarket made these cars famous, but OEM parts are now the most valuable.

  • @KeenanStyles
    @KeenanStyles3 жыл бұрын

    For the price bracket of a BNR34 I would rather have an F12, 991 GT3 RS, AMG GTR, or LP610-4

  • @scourgeofbloodclan3986

    @scourgeofbloodclan3986

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@1fastford795 boring? clearly you have never driven a Porsche, Mercedes or Ferrari or Lambo. They have WAAAYYYYYY more power than the r34 out of the box. The interior of the r34 is boring, you haven't been in an r34 gtr interior have you kid? You're a 12. year old fanboy of course, the only car you think is exciting is the r34 gtr. Trust me, it's not, you have to spend thousands on it to make it faster, they don't come with 1000hp from factory, a stock amg gtr will destroy it.

  • @scourgeofbloodclan3986

    @scourgeofbloodclan3986

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@1fastford795 You can get a BMW m2 for cheaper than the GTR or even an r35 gtr for cheaper, both cars are better than the r34.

  • @yayitsjepoy
    @yayitsjepoy3 жыл бұрын

    Wassup Gears and Gasoline! I really like the video because of how true it is! Everywhere I see, the classic cars are going up in price. I appreciate all the hard work you guys put in to make your videos. It shows a ton! Keep on doing great work! And know that I will always watch you guys whenever I wanna see some more cars in my life! Take care! =)

  • @gtiturbo85
    @gtiturbo853 жыл бұрын

    awesome video! thanks guys!

  • @EcclecticNerd
    @EcclecticNerd3 жыл бұрын

    One thing I randomly think about is when cars reach 'near extinction' for lack of a better term. At some point, the number of S-chassis that people are simply preserving for enjoyment will outnumber the number of people who are building them simply to drift them.

  • @wellwellwelljew271
    @wellwellwelljew2713 жыл бұрын

    I want to make a factory that makes replica cars but are all out of carbon fiber and extremely light and powerful. If that happens in about 10 years, that's me. I've also calculated that those cars will be like 1200 lbs. I will also put Free valve techology on the engine and make insane n/a power.

  • @Anirossa

    @Anirossa

    3 жыл бұрын

    People already do that

  • @smallpebbleboy12

    @smallpebbleboy12

    3 жыл бұрын

    Do you realize how expensive making a carbon fiber car from scratch would be

  • @Bungarungagungaboo

    @Bungarungagungaboo

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would love to help you with that. These replica cars can also have tube chassis that can make the car stiffer and be able to hold a lot more power without flexing. There can also be kits that have different engine mount options so the person that buys the kit can put whatever engine they want into it. A tube chassis, what ever engine you want and a carbon body? What more could you want?

  • @wellwellwelljew271

    @wellwellwelljew271

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Anirossa dude im only 14 dont shit on me

  • @wellwellwelljew271

    @wellwellwelljew271

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Bungarungagungaboo yeah, but my dream will be to make every thing from scratch (even brand New engines with magnesium blocks or something)

  • @shahidali619
    @shahidali6193 жыл бұрын

    Great piece by Luke!

  • @MattMediaMatt
    @MattMediaMatt3 жыл бұрын

    awesome video, thank you guys!

  • @JoshRex7ven
    @JoshRex7ven Жыл бұрын

    I'm honestly still dissapointed that mazda didn't bring the herritage program to the FB/SA 1st gen RX-7. I'm stuck with second hand parts. That being said the FB and FC basically share the same chassis, so I can make alot of FC stuff work on my FB

  • @BigBenlolz
    @BigBenlolz3 жыл бұрын

    8:23 THIS. I see so many BIG car youtubers just yeeting out the parts they swap out. Parts that are usually rare where I live so its good to see them on ebay or something.

  • @kilobravo6197
    @kilobravo61973 жыл бұрын

    Awesome Video like always 👍

  • @16matusko
    @16matusko3 жыл бұрын

    Great video Luke! Looking forward to seeing more from you and the Bens😂😂

  • @cobenblack1876
    @cobenblack18763 жыл бұрын

    So we’re not going to mention how unimaginative the car community is when it comes to cars? Decades upon decades of cars and we end up with the same cars that everyone wants. It’s just fashion and people following trends creating their own little bubble.

  • @nashidaperv2351

    @nashidaperv2351

    3 жыл бұрын

    for real, its like when you buy a car there are certain rules you need to do. makes them look cookie cutter despite people complaining about it.

  • @justdee2457
    @justdee24573 жыл бұрын

    Honda head hear saying the tax on civic and integra's are right up thier on the taxation without representation aspect its crazy

  • @achintdhiman4807
    @achintdhiman48073 жыл бұрын

    Man your videos are so good and well made

  • @aaronreiher4476
    @aaronreiher44763 жыл бұрын

    Gears and Gasoline, thanks for the inspiring video! I really enjoy a lot of the content on your channel! Please keep up the good work. God bless.

  • @eajayy8969
    @eajayy89693 жыл бұрын

    “Drift tax” doesn’t mention Ae86. Some beat up Corolla from 35 years ago running for 20-28k.

  • @Zeke19

    @Zeke19

    3 жыл бұрын

    He definitely said "Old Corolla" when talking about drift tax.

  • @VestedUTuber

    @VestedUTuber

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, the AE86 suffers from more than just drift tax. Those carry the dreaded Takumi Tax.

  • @caglioso
    @caglioso3 жыл бұрын

    Yea all these youtubers using the cash their channels generates to scoop up project cars and jack up prices for the rest of us. But at least you made a video about it. Which will give you more revenue. To keep doing what you’re doing and price us out of what used to be affordable cars. How meta.

  • @joshuakhaos4451

    @joshuakhaos4451

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's almost as if we mocked boomers for their buy habits, Yet we millenials and Gen Z are no different in the end.

  • @6speeds10
    @6speeds103 жыл бұрын

    Well done luke 👍. Great video

  • @maniyaa_
    @maniyaa_3 жыл бұрын

    Nice to see and hear from Luke!! great video as always :)

  • @justace123
    @justace1233 жыл бұрын

    Skykine’s have to be the worst (read: most expensive) examples. My R32 GTR has taken everything from me (6 figures total) lol, I want to cry.

  • @jlopez0710

    @jlopez0710

    3 жыл бұрын

    What’s your IG? I agree I bought an old logo Nismo intercooler about 5 years ago for less than a G, now they’re over 4 Gs if you can find one. I love my car but damn haha!

  • @justace123

    @justace123

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jlopez0710 No IG for me surprisingly lol. But yeah I know exactly what you mean man. I wanted LMGT2’s and about died laughing when I saw some for $10k being considered a ‘good deal’. Anything old logo Nismo is somehow considered made by God lol.

  • @robbalinski1606

    @robbalinski1606

    3 жыл бұрын

    fuck in Canada I turned down a R32 GTR for 2k 10 years ago! The U.S. market opening up for the desirable JDM imports did that.

  • @tghidsgn

    @tghidsgn

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robbalinski1606 100% this. I didn't have the money back then when a real nice R32 was like $10k :(

  • @B0F
    @B0F3 жыл бұрын

    im not ready for the miata to be the next 240 in terms of pricing

  • @TRageQuit

    @TRageQuit

    3 жыл бұрын

    it's already happening, at least where i live a miata in decent shape is going for about 6k+ without a hard top.

  • @robbalinski1606

    @robbalinski1606

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TRageQuit fuck miata's have been going for 6k+ in canada for 10 years already. Yank land is still home of the cheap cars.

  • @ecbs2k
    @ecbs2k Жыл бұрын

    Wow! Love the content keep it coming. I like how it’s feels like a soap opera but with cars lol

  • @MyEden587
    @MyEden5873 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for these type of videos.. as someone who is thinking about buying a youngster, this is somewhat of a wakeup call. Everyone on youtube is hyping cars, only showing the glamorous life. Only a few are actually talking about the cost of ownership, and the hardship involved. Thanks for your honesty and a different, more sustainable view on the car culture. Thanks guys.

  • @jackprince4695
    @jackprince46953 жыл бұрын

    It’s ridiculous how much cars cost , I was looking on eBay and found a ae86 lenvin hatch with rust and it was 15 000

  • @angelgjr1999

    @angelgjr1999

    3 жыл бұрын

    Used cars have been heavily overpriced for a while now.

  • @midasiscariot

    @midasiscariot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Soon it'll be cheaper to reproduce the cars in your basement.

  • @hugothompson4696
    @hugothompson46963 жыл бұрын

    its honestly to the point where i cant get anything that i like without shelling out a load of cash. like lets take the supra. on BaT they sell for around 60-80k when i could get a manual v10 Audi R8 for the same price with 5000 miles.

  • @curlyfriesolaire8053

    @curlyfriesolaire8053

    3 жыл бұрын

    then shell out an extra 10k for repairs cause german car.

  • @jdmfan9450
    @jdmfan94503 жыл бұрын

    Banger video! Good job!

  • @carsontharp7888
    @carsontharp78883 жыл бұрын

    Gears & Gasoline has some of the best production quality I have ever seen out of a youtube channel

  • @LucoreAuto
    @LucoreAuto3 жыл бұрын

    Look at the costs of manual IS300s over the past 4 years, it's insane! After we built and released our turbo build, they've more than doubled in price :(

  • @RyanRoadReaper

    @RyanRoadReaper

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was looking at them cause I wanted one as my first car, and man! It's getting to the point where it would be cheaper to buy a clean auto and do a CD009 swap in it!

  • @LucoreAuto

    @LucoreAuto

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RyanRoadReaper it's going quickly insane, especially for the manuals. The autos are climbing in price as well as people hunt down whatever they can. We have a WRECKED donor IS300 for an upcoming project we bought for $700 2 years ago, have had multiple people stop by and offer $4000 or more for it. Unfortunately some of it is the whole, we're a victim of success. If we and others hadn't built and shown off these things we would still be able to get our greasy hands on them cheap(ish)!

  • @jaredevers6459

    @jaredevers6459

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LucoreAuto exactly

  • @LucoreAuto

    @LucoreAuto

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jaredevers6459 some of the same can be said for a lot of other cars. We just wrapped up a MKIII Supra 2JZ build, when we started tor project 3 years ago MKIIIs were dirt cheap.... that price is climbing quickly. The Celica GTS we just posted... doubled in value the last 5 years. Unfortunately the cancer is spreading faster and faster :(

  • @RyanRoadReaper

    @RyanRoadReaper

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LucoreAuto I think that part of it is people looking for alternatives to cars that we're blown out of their budget. Like, say I want an R33 GTR, but they're too expensive for me to afford them, so I go buy a GTS-T because it's a similar experience at a much cheaper price tag. Which inflates the price of the other cars that are based off the same platform.

  • @PureFunction
    @PureFunction3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for allowing me to be part of this, and also anyone wanna sell me another MK4 Supra? I’m trying to be a billionaire 🤣😂

  • @POVmotorsport

    @POVmotorsport

    3 жыл бұрын

    respect for your knowledge!

  • @walterharris6191

    @walterharris6191

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not to be rude but aren't you adding to the problem you said you were against?

  • @PureFunction

    @PureFunction

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@walterharris6191 SARCASM brother, I have two one for me and my wife and that’s all I’ll ever have

  • @caglioso

    @caglioso

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean you’re admittedly part of the problem. You’re not helping the enthusiast community and only make the things we want less accessible. Are we supposed to thank you?

  • @walterharris6191

    @walterharris6191

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PureFunction fair enough man guess that's the importance of full context haha you have three in the video and say you want to buy them up so apologies. Hopefully you can see how that sounds to maybe someone who doesn't know you

  • @13bfc
    @13bfc3 жыл бұрын

    Bought my FC RX7 in 2012 for $800 & my boy bought an S13 240sx for $700 in 2010. $300 for a civic eg hatch in 2009. No way we'll ever see those prices again for even a shell.

  • @supercooled
    @supercooled3 жыл бұрын

    another quality video, guys. Thank you.

  • @stuartframe850
    @stuartframe8503 жыл бұрын

    "And thats just the US!" Where else did they sell camaros?

  • @kulesniper4251
    @kulesniper42513 жыл бұрын

    Can we get a video on that GC8 please? 😉

  • @TheJuanAndOnly47

    @TheJuanAndOnly47

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s @Stay On The Gas gc8!

  • @StayOnTheGas

    @StayOnTheGas

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can watch a ton of videos of it on my channel 😊👍🏼

  • @jdmboy1234
    @jdmboy12343 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video guys

  • @dockerylucas3710
    @dockerylucas37103 жыл бұрын

    This is pretty great I’m glad we talking about this as a Miata guy we should be helping with parts if you find good deals tell your homies and whatever extra you have give them away keep them rotating

  • @tonycrispin
    @tonycrispin3 жыл бұрын

    Makes me sad, I've had quite a few S chassis over the years (as well as miatas, bmw's and other great enthusiast cars) and now that I can afford to build my dream one, I can't afford to buy one, or justify the high prices lol

  • @robbalinski1606

    @robbalinski1606

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's what I've been trying to avoid with DSM's, I've been hoarding them for the time I can't afford them anymore. Got 6+ and counting! lol

  • @bobthebuilder4200
    @bobthebuilder42003 жыл бұрын

    “Why are enthusiast cars so expensive” Shows guy with three Supras. You’re joking right? Three? Not saying there is anything wrong with owning three examples but there is a spot on reason why.

  • @martink20a64
    @martink20a643 жыл бұрын

    excellent message in the video.

  • @nvrndingsmmr
    @nvrndingsmmr3 жыл бұрын

    Great video!!

  • @JewportMenthols
    @JewportMenthols3 жыл бұрын

    because just like the Firearms community we are our own worst enemy with supply and demand.

  • @jaredevers6459
    @jaredevers64593 жыл бұрын

    Also don’t over price your cars

  • @joshuakhaos4451

    @joshuakhaos4451

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's a boomer trick that millenials and Gen Z shockingly engage in, Despite knowing how it hurt us with the car world. Part of the reason it exists with many JDM cars is because the well known Circle jerk that many do because of the Fast and furious obsession. Supras and Skylines are dope, But they don't hold any mystical power in my eyes.

  • @JellybotBMX12
    @JellybotBMX123 жыл бұрын

    An amazing video, well done. 🙏🏽

  • @sabresfan1003
    @sabresfan10033 жыл бұрын

    Nice job Luke, look forward to move videos...

  • @mustang-ricky3626
    @mustang-ricky36263 жыл бұрын

    me wanting a clean decent mileage evo 9 for less than 25k fml

  • @lyleduragos5609

    @lyleduragos5609

    3 жыл бұрын

    $25k? *I can’t even find one UNDER $32K!*

  • @ThatMaximaKid

    @ThatMaximaKid

    3 жыл бұрын

    Y'all gotta check the Strictly Evo and DSM page. They're alot of them under 25k there

  • @kreaola93

    @kreaola93

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThatMaximaKid what website is that?

  • @ThatMaximaKid

    @ThatMaximaKid

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kreaola93 it's a group in facebook

  • @Trussme96

    @Trussme96

    3 жыл бұрын

    25k is literally the bottom for EVO 8s and 9s regardless of mileage and condition. Its weird.

  • @Deadpoolmasterchief
    @Deadpoolmasterchief3 жыл бұрын

    2019 fiesta st only comes In standard 6 speed I have an enthusiast car and it was only 22k fully loaded mine is new when I got it

  • @brandongao3675

    @brandongao3675

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm thinking of getting one. Any advice?

  • @spicemint80

    @spicemint80

    3 жыл бұрын

    I bought my 2014 Focus ST as the second owner for just under 13k about 5 years ago, now people are paying almost 19-20k for them with way more miles then when I got mine.

  • @robbalinski1606

    @robbalinski1606

    3 жыл бұрын

    As far as ford's go.......the Fiesta ST is darn near the tippy top of fun, ford actually did something right......still can't build a pickup to save they're lives tho.

  • @Szostek.

    @Szostek.

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@robbalinski1606 what? Ford has been making the best American pick ups for 100+ years? I’m not a Ford fan but you can’t disprove the fact they make the best trucks.

  • @xRockee

    @xRockee

    3 жыл бұрын

    a fiesta st is a hotted up grocery-getter hatchback with slightly more power.

  • @jaxontanner9822
    @jaxontanner98223 жыл бұрын

    Beautifully written and edited video as always guys! Waiting for this to happen to rx8's. They are getting junked, and parted out at such an alarming rate it is only a matter of time.

  • @marcosanna8039
    @marcosanna80393 жыл бұрын

    Finally someone addressed this problem, thank you

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