I used to come home from work every day and drink myself into a coma every night. One of the most helpful things for me was finding better “escapes.” Hot baths and naps became my best friends :). I bought a sleeping mask around the time I decided to quit drinking and it became a lifesaver! I could just throw on that sleeping mask at any time of day and block out the rest of the world. It was like not existing for awhile which is what I was using alcohol to do. Highly recommend!

@theorionnebula9746

2 жыл бұрын

i’m an addict and i do the sleeping mask thing too! i thought nobody else did that haha

@magickology

2 жыл бұрын

SAME. I too replaced my alcohol with naps and baths! Hahahaha

@ashroskell

2 жыл бұрын

If you’re a student of TA (Transactional Analysis) the argument has always been, “Alcoholics are only, ‘cured,’ when they can drink alcohol, for pleasure, but retain self control, without ever drinking to excess, or to overwhelm negative feelings.” I always had mixed thoughts and feelings about that analysis. Curious what you guys think? Is it better to live with the, “disease,” and never risk falling back into it by total abstinence, or to overcome one’s emotional demons and historic, psychic damage, and thus be able to drink like everyone else? Personally, I think a lot of bogus stuff is talked about alcoholism, and that this video brilliantly explodes a lot of the nonsense we tell ourselves. It makes perfect sense that it’s a physical disease, and I have no doubt that we’ll have a cure for it soon, in the form of a pill. So, if you guys could take that pill, would you ever drink again? Knowing that it can’t dominate you ever again? Or would you perhaps, take the pill as a precaution, whilst staying away from drink altogether, regardless? Or, never do either? When I was young, everyone who came out for a drink (and I mean, “everyone”) abused alcohol. That was the whole point. And everyone in every bar, who was there past 6pm and stayed for longer than an hour, was getting high, knowingly poisoning themselves, knowing their bodies would pay the price the next day, and doing it anyway. Coz’ . . . Worth it. The world has not changed, even if my habits have. I guess I was not an alcoholic, because I didn’t do it at work, or when it was, “inappropriate,” (measured by a yardstick not of my making, but obeyed, coz’, “society”) and now I only have three glasses of wine a week? But, it strikes me that most people are alcoholics really, if they drink at all when they’re young? Because the whole point is to be excessive, or it’s not having a larf, right? It’s only the ones whom we designate by arbitrary rules that call, “alcoholics.” But I’ve witnessed people we now call, “high functioning alcoholics,” go to an early grave after an unhappy life, because no one bothered to tell them there was more to a happy life than showing up to their job sober and not beating their wife and kids . . . I just hope science makes that breakthrough, and we can all get better at Empathy? Sympathy is wasted on alcoholism. But Empathy is what makes science great. But, let me ask you? Do you, “need,” that sleep mask? Or do you just, “use,” the sleep mask? Do you see yourself as an, “alcoholic?” Is that a life sentence? Or do you see yourself as having more agency, self control, “executive power,” over your life? Genuinely curious. ✌️

@ashroskell

2 жыл бұрын

@@magickology : My first comment and questions, were for you too. Genuinely curious. ✌️

@SrBautista

2 жыл бұрын

I'm struggling with this thing right now, but i would like it to be over.

This really explains why I've always justified the drinking with "It helps me relax." This is...uncanny.

@coreymetzker2521

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah. Those first few drinks feel REAL good. The problem with alchohol for me is that there is a strong internal pressure to continuously ramp it up. I find that smoking weed gives me that initial relief, without any urge to ramp it up or even continue being high past the initial intoxication. Much less sinister substance IMHO.

@genericanimecharacter430

2 жыл бұрын

@UCL5ecB03CvRP4sVLHFlU_fw plus it doesn't mess u up as bad, but poison depends on dosage

@juliuskamau9095

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. Luckily, I realized it and decided 'Never Again will I fall into that trap'

I began drinking at 13 years old and haven't stopped since. I wish I had more control over myself

excellent video, between the visuals and ways you broke information down. ive finally accepted im an alcoholic, thank you. going to get better for myself now.

@BiohazardPL

3 жыл бұрын

how are you doing, bro?

@sameermohideen4913

2 жыл бұрын

Remember, Progress. Not perfection.

@tylerolejnicak5481

7 ай бұрын

The best thing you can do is fight it. I'm just about to really start that journey of my own volition for once. We will probably fail many times, but getting and staying sober is the never ending goal for us. When you think of it like a disease, it's almost easier. Take your daily pill of not drinking, using the support groups you have and forcing yourself to remember drinking might have made us feel better but never actually made our lives better.

As a recovering alcoholic, I very much appreciate this video :) thanks for spreading awareness and information.

@MrNoristori

3 жыл бұрын

^

Dude, you should totally do video on depression

If you can explain science behind alcoholism this well, I think you could do an amazing job explaining substance disorders with Opioids. Love your videos

People say 'you have a choice' but nobody chooses to get addicted, the addiction chose you, I mean you can break from it, but alcoholism and drug addiction is so stigmatized because it's self-inflicted but let's have a look closer, how is the mental state of that individual, is genetics playing a part? How about the cravings within that individual compared to others? Doesn't seem like you have much a choice when you're caught in that addiction cycle. People say it's 'mentally weak' people who get addicted to alcohol but if that's the case, why do you have businessmen who can work 50-60 hours per week, meet targets and meet deadlines while being put under stress, yet can drink heavy on a daily basis to the point it starts to then affect their lives? Doesn't seem to me that individual is a mentally weak person?

@cygnals524

Жыл бұрын

@Dynamitecity The people who say addicts & alcoholics are weak have zero clue about the issue and are being judgemental & treating it as a moral issue. I grew up in a family of alcoholics. My mom was the only one who wasn't an alcoholic but my dad, 2 brothers, tons of uncles and a few aunts along with both paternal grandfathers and even both great grandfathers. I knew at a very young age I drank differently than others. I was born in the 60s and mostly raised in the 1970s and beginning of the 1980s. It was sex, drugs & rock & roll baby!! BUT, I noticed even before I was a teenager I had no shut off valve. Once I started drinking it was game on until I ran out, ran out of money or it was too late to buy more. If I did run out the mental obsession to get more was paralyzing. I am also extremely OCD. I also play guitar and was in local bands until the early 1990s when my wife & I started to have kids and I got better management type jobs. I actually quit on my own after a few tries from the age of 24-29. I did smoke weed which I have no problems controlling and occasionally dabble in harder drugs as well with relatively no problems(until years later) I started back up at 29 and after a week it was like I never quit. I drank heavy even when I was a teenager. Drinking an entire 5th or most of a 1/2 gallon along with a dozen or more beers was a fairly regular evening. I NEVER missed one day of work. For 25 years I was never late and never once called in sick to work. Once I started up at age 29 it went ok for a short time period although I was passing out black out drunk quite often. I never got hangovers which still baffles me. Things spiraled out of control fast but ... I got several promotions and was making an incredible salary for a guy with no college education. I was actually making more money than most of my friends who had college degrees. It was causing problems at home obviously and it only got worse. By the time I was 31 I had my own business as I took over managing my families business which was a slight pay cut but I could bring ym==my kids to work and spent a lot more time with my wife as well. BUT ... now I could drink all the time & I did. The weekend use to be Friday and Saturday evenings but soon became Friday, Saturday & Sunday. All of a sudden Thursday was close enough to the weekend to count and then Wednesday was close as well so there was no longer a difference between the weekend, a party or any other reason. I basically drank at least a 5th but usually drank a 1/2 gallon of usually whiskey along with many beers. I also frequented the bars and restaurants on top of this. Oriental restaurants/bars were my favorites. If you tip decent they pour you drinks twice as strong as the regular public gets. By the age of 33 I started to try and quit. I could NOT stop regardless of how hard I tried or if I went to 12 step meetings or not. I really wanted to and was noticing the problems it was causing me health wise and my wife(we are still together) was getting tired of me being black out drunk most evenings by midnight. This went on for quite a while. I tried everything to be in control. I ran 3-5 miles every day ran, snow, etc... and worked out. I was in excellent shape and made the most money I ever made with some impressive job titles when I was drinking the heaviest. I played guitar for hours, read tons of books and on the outside most folks had no idea things were as bad as they were except for a few close friends and a neighbor or two. The more I drank the more self disciplined I was but this had no bearing on it. That is our minds telling us if we only do, x, y, or, z we will be able to drink OK. Long story short. In 2002 when I was 36 I had a horrible incident happen when I was blacking out after drinking a dozen scorpion bowls and pounding whiskey and beers. This was the first time I had ever been in a situation like this. My wife and a few other relatives made me promise to go to a rehab and locked the doors saying I couldn't come home until I did. So .... I went to a detox and then a rehab. I spent 30 days in a detox and then 30 days in a rehab. That was how it was set up here in my area at that time & fortunately it did not cost me that much I did set up a payment plan and paid off the remaining amount over the course of an 8 year time period. I NEEDED to be removed from the surroundings. It really sucked and I went through the entire thing kicking and screaming. I took care of my kids and never missed a day of work. My wife & I worked separate shifts so I was always with my kids. I had never once been away from my kids or my wife or my job so it was an experience I was not happy with. BUT I bought a notebook and listened and wrote down almost everything they told us during all the meetings and one on one sessions. They were pricks at this rehab as well because the majority of the folks there were coming from jail and prison, had no jobs and had no relationships. I was still a little dick and rubbed that in their noses that I still had a hot wife and 2 beautiful kids, a decent paying job and had never been to jail or prison. DISCLAIMER: I was only a little dick after they started to try to make fun of me and target me because of the very fact I did not come from a jail like many there did and most of them went to jail together so I was an outsider. Even with me kicking and screaming that I hated it and could do this fine on my own at home I still listened and learned because I wanted to change my life. Also, my kids were still very young/small so they still had a chance to not see me blasted out of my mind every evening like they had. My dad also spent the first 10 years of my life in and out of jail and prison and still drinks to this day. He is 78 and spent his 75th birthday locked up in the county jail with a few felonies hanging over his head. All I could see was me turning out like him and that was enough to make me change. Plus my dad was/is a violent ahole and I am fortunate not like him when it comes to our personalities. So 21 years later ...

I have ZERO inclination to drinking ANY type of alcohol , now I know it's the genes .

I have this problem and I know I lot about it, but this video informs in so much detail, I'v learned things I never heard of before.

incredible, totally changed my understanding. Thank you!

@jojolafrite90

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of this is true for other substances abuse.

@erikduvald6703

2 жыл бұрын

It is NOT a "disease". Isn't it funny how you cannot EVER catch the "disease" of alcoholism, if you never have your first drink?

Neat. First video from your channel I’ve seen and I was not expecting the video to get that deep into brain science. Subbed.

Recovering alcoholic with 11 years sobriety here. People resist calling alcoholism a disease because they think that lets the alcoholic off the hook. On the contrary, knowing they have a disease makes them more responsible for managing it. It's kind of analogous to type II diabetes. It might have been triggered by some bad lifestyle choices, but that doesn't mean they don't have to take the necessary steps to manage and treat the disease. They might not have been responsible for "catching" it, but they are responsible for managing and treating it. For a full-blown alkie like me and others with similar problems, the only real treatment is abstinence, and learning to live and be happy with your new abstinent lifestyle. Most addicts (including alcoholics) hate their addictions. The problem is that too many of them find that they hate life even more without their chemical of choice, which is why successful treatment programs address the underlying reasons for that.

I am definitely on the abstinent side of the scale (mainly cause I just hate the smell of alcohol and my employment prohibits me from drinking) but it's interesting to see how the stereotype of an alcoholic only being "normal" when drunk is (sort of) substantiated by science.

Thank you for sharing the link and for the video. Very helpful

Empathy is never wasted or wrongly expressed. Sympathy, not so much. Empathy has real world applications and practical uses, potentially leading to useful outcomes. Sympathy is just an emotion we experience, which can lead to empathy, or to other emotions, even paralysis instead of decision making in the face of a crisis. Empathy and sympathy are often confused. Alcoholics need empathy. Your sympathy they can do without, whether it’s positive or negative in any given situation. Understanding alcoholism as a genetic disorder, a treatable and curable disease, is empathetic. When science is empathetic it can move mountains. This video is one of the best examples of that. And of why we should take care to de-conflate empathy and sympathy, which only clouds the discussion. Loved this video. 👍

Amazing. Your channel is gold Sir. Thanks for sharing.

My mother, father, both grandfather's and a couple uncles were alcoholics. A couple still are! I have become an alcoholic. I love the way it makes me feel.

@snake525

Жыл бұрын

I know the feeling, my guy. Been there. You’ll find whatever lasting happiness you want, I believe in ya.

man this is the best explanation of alcoholism out there. And it was so funny too!! Your animations are the best!

I have ADHD, which already reduces my neurotransmitters natural production. I am also an alcoholic and have been to outpatient therapy. This gave me more insight into why I do what I do than anything else I've ever learned. I hope there's a fix for this in the future with medication. I'm wondering now if returning to Adderall would help me reduce my consumption of alcohol, as well as the desire to consume alcohol. I subscribed, thank you!

@MaxHohenstaufen

3 жыл бұрын

I'm no doctor, but I understand what you go through as I go through it too. Nothing in the medication department made a complete fix for me yet, but the closest thing I had and maybe you should ask a shrink about if might be helpful to you is remeron. It works like an anxiolityc but it doesn't depress your brain activity like drugs of the benzodiazepine class such as klonopin, valium or xanax, as it is, in fact, an anti-depressant like prozac, but with a very different action. It also don't interect with alcohol in any significant harmful way, so if you fail to keep sober while taking it you won't go completely crazy, so I consider it safer. On top of that, it helps you sleep. It can't keep you away from alcohol, but it does a decent fight against the underlying causes of alcoholism. This is based on my exp. you certainly need a doctor to evaluate it for you, but it might be helpful.

@AZ-uq7kn

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure what your diet is like, but do you eat a heavily processed diet? If you do a lot of the ingredients can cause your ADHD symptoms to worsen.

@tylerolejnicak5481

3 жыл бұрын

@@AZ-uq7kn I work in QSR food service, so yes I eat a lot of processed food because I get the free food there that I need to survive. It's definitely something I've considered. I have a few health problems I'm now dealing with which are tough at the bottom rung of society and income. I desperately want to get away from booze but I can't afford rehab or some other program like it (my family is dependant on my income). I have at best support groups at my disposal but I'm in an area of the country where they are few and far between and might not line up with what I need. So I'm in a tough spot.

@tylerolejnicak5481

3 жыл бұрын

@@MaxHohenstaufen is this something you can just ask a doctor for?

@MaxHohenstaufen

3 жыл бұрын

@@tylerolejnicak5481 Not really asks so much as talk about with your doctor, depending on your situation. The doctor is the one who will tell you what might work for you but it's ok to ask information abl

The bottle stopping the ufo 😂😂

I really do appreciate your work!

Wonderful and helpful explanation. I've been showing this vid to people for the past year.

Do you know of a video explanation as good as this one about the effects of THC?

Thanks for this very interesting and thought provoking video ( At leas for those convinced that "addictions" are "simply down to bad self control/discipline) That said I think we all do well to remember that everyone suffering under an addiction is a unique individual with unique traits, both physically, psychologically and socially"emotionally. And that most (if not all) "addictions" are highly complex "behaviours" that can have many contributing factors and causes. And thereby also many ""partly true explanations"" as well as "good enough working solutions" likely exists for every instance of addiction. In short (imho) when ever someone talks about a "silver bullet" for an addiction they are at best "overly optimistic" and at worst just "full of BS". Best regards.

The methylation bit seems the most interesting I wonder what other things could cause that.

I drank heavily for 20 years and tried everything to quit. I realized about halfway through it was an illness in my mind. My friend told me about kratom 4 years ago and I haven't had a drink since. It quiets the cravings and now I don't want it anymore. You can taper down the dosage as you get better. Look on Reddit for info about how to take it and such. There's no medical info about it here because it's from the South Pacific and it's imported. If you can't stop using or drinking, you should try this. It couldn't hurt and it might save your life. I don't think I would have lasted past age 50 and I'm 42 now with a 6 year old daughter. I had to do it for her.

@TheGlowingOnee

2 жыл бұрын

So you substituted alcohol for another drug? Lol

@jmarth523

2 жыл бұрын

Kratom is an opioid.

@DeborahMacaoidhSelim

10 ай бұрын

​​@@TheGlowingOneeEverything in moderation. You don't have to use it to catch a buzz and it's medicinal that way. It's still better than dying of liver failure. The way you put it is like saying you substituted it for medication. Not recreational drugs.

I used to think of alcoholics in the same way you described in the beginning of this video, you have changed my outlook on them. thank you! Your channel deserves more views it has very good explanations of complicated topics thru and thru.

@whodarboilebamnames3990

2 жыл бұрын

Empathy is what I feel is lacking in the world. Even though people are responsible for their behavior, still treating them as human is important as well.

I keep relapsing and I am positive I have a genetic disorder of some kind. This video is very informative and st least I can understand why and try to fight jt. Thank you for the great video

@vodkacannon

2 жыл бұрын

With the internet, we can all stand on the shoulders of giants.

Norm MacDonald said it best to watch his bit on alcoholism. When someone tells you they have cancer you tell them I also have a disease. Alcoholism and ask them what the symptoms are for bowel cancer and he says bloody painful bows and he asks you what the symptoms of alcoholism are and you say I find myself being able to talk to people at parties easier and for some reason want to dance.

Nice video. If I wasn't already familiar with the ideas of epigenetics I might not distinguish between genetic and inherited. If you do want to learn more about addiction in a way that may be relatable I suggest "In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts" by Gabor Mate, MD (2010).

Beautifull, as all your vids. And as i am now drinking my first glasses of wine at one o'clock PM i thank you for thís one especially

@Th3UprightMan

3 жыл бұрын

Just channel your hatred of yourself into daily workouts like I do. Now I at least look good and have more energy to dedicate towards hating myself.

Fascinating!

So as an alcoholic do I need alcohol for gene expression now? What can I do stimulate it after not drinking?

@ButWhySci

3 жыл бұрын

My understanding is that alocholism is no different from regular drug addiction. EXCEPT that the DNA methylation causes chronic effects, whereas regular drug addiction can have the physical component disappear after months without use. Alcoholics still have that methylated DNA. However, even restoring the brain chemistry still doesn't remove the pathways in your brain that developed to learn that drugs are good stress relievers. That takes even longer.

Cool vid. I also enjoyed the book "30 Days to Sobriety" by Harper Daniels.

I wonder if this has any connection to other types of addictions, like if they are similar processes

Strange how both of my grandparents on both sides were alcoholics, yet I never inherited this gene

Excellent explanation!

谢谢、很有意思！

Great video👍

I HOPE THIS WORKS FOR OPIODS TO........ This is what i have been thinking should exist, a way to "heal" substance abuse. Not just expect ppl to do the right thing and "just quit".

Great video, I'm amazed, but also by your lack of views and subs. Good content I will watch you grow, cheers

The timescale confuses me a little. I feel tipsy within 15 minutes or so of drinking. That's enough time for my DNA to relax and some epigenetic stuff to go too work? I didn't realize that happened so quickly. The explanation I learned as a kid is that the alcohol takes the place of the oxygen in the blood, and the subsequent mis-function of brain cells was due to oxygen starvation. Some people just really like feeling that way, hence they drink more and more.

what about how it affects the liver? And how that makes it more or less impossible for a chronic user to quit immediately...

@stonecold5373

2 жыл бұрын

That's biology. Alcohol greatly affects the liver.

@heath6809

Жыл бұрын

It’s mostly the effects on the brain that make it difficult to quit immediately, and why some people get severe withdrawals, and even pass away from the withdrawals.

It can have a profound effect on other members of the family who have nothing to do with the alcoholics drinking problem. It's role in domestic violence and alcohol fuelled paedophilia effects non-drinkers as well.

weird how my family got the alcoholism gene after ww2 i wonder how that worked out

Has the gelite ad in the video

wow great explanation of the way alcohol works on the brain. never knew this before

A lot of people are having a hard time rationalizing the permanent effects of alchohol abuse and the genetic component to it. It's sad to see. Hopefully in the future we will be able to undo the effects of chronic alcohol consumption, but for now it starts with empathy.

Brilliant

Woah!! What's with all these acetylated histones?!?! Haha best line in the video.

So is there no way to undo the damage currently?

@VikingTeddy

2 жыл бұрын

From what I've read, damage can be repaired. Neuroplasticity applies to almost the whole brain/cns. It is a slow process and the brain needs to be stimulated, not unlike training muscles. It's a slow process though. Depending on the severity of damage. It can take anywhere from a few years to a few decades. But it can be done. Though its more re-training than repairing.

Fuck Alkohol, it ruined my and so many other life's. I wished I never started.

@jmarth523

2 жыл бұрын

If you are still having trouble I hear Ibogaine works well with breaking the addiction, would probably require meds to curb the withdrawls though if you get the shakes

Cheers! 🍺

ADHD self medicating with alcohol is sometimes misinterpreted as alcoholism.

The problem centres in the mind a spiritual malady and no human can fix it .god bless

6:05 You didn't explain what a CPG island is so this part of the video is a bad one because it creates a gap.

Awesome do Heroin next. I would love to know what I did to myself lololol.

Addiction is a developmental flaw, not a disease.

@larryc7209

2 жыл бұрын

As a licensed addiction counselor for 15 years as well as a recovering alcoholic for 27 years, I can confirm addiction is, in fact a disease, although it is now referred to as alcohol use disorder (or another chemical disorder). The key is the obsession/compulsion, even if you are able to control it. As part of therapy, we encourage people to go to AA, NA, SMART recovery, Refuge recovery, Secular Recovery and a few others. Addicts/alcoholics tend to isolate. It is very helpful to socialize with people like themselves.

What's classified as abuse? When is the damage done?

2:38 that looks suspiciously like how we looked like on our first journey in life

well, that's only alcohol. But (substance) addiction spans a much wider field. So each one has it's unique mechanism? Shouldn't there be more of a common reason for addictions? Or are they really not comparable at all?

@ButWhySci

3 жыл бұрын

This is not my field of expertise and I only read papers related to alcohol. But my understanding is that all drug addiction has a similar kind of feedback loop. However alcohol is unique with the DNA methylation which has chronic effects. Whereas most other drugs can restore the brain chemistry if you can abstain long enough an alcoholics brain can never really return to normal.

Woah,..,I have like so many questions nowwww

Alcoholism runs deep try and beat it.

I only ever tried weed & alcohol and got hooked hard on both, for this reason I will never try a new drug, I can't trust myself.

Checking in to offer my opinion. This is an interesting topic and one that will never see 100% consensus one way or the other. Up front, alcoholism (and drug addiction) is a disease. However, in the treatment field it's now being more referred to as a disorder. It doesn't change the essence of it's nature but makes it easier to understand for the lay person. The act of drinking is a symptom of the disorder. The obsession with the alcohol is the disease in action. Having a disease or disorder doesn't relieve you of responsibility for your behavior. As an analogy, if you have type 1 diabetes, that for sure isn't your fault. If you choose to eat hot fudge sundaes instead of take your insulin, that damned sure is your fault and you own the results. Same with the alcoholic. He or she is 100% responsible for their drinking. They should NOT use it being a disease/disorder as an excuse for bad behavior. If you have the obsession but don't act on it, you still have the disorder of alcoholism. They aren't responsible for having the obsession for drinking in the first place.There is evidence of a genetic component residing in the limbic brain. It hasn't been isolated and we are probably decades away from having an AHA moment. As quick background, I've been sober for a little over 25 years. After detox, I give all the credit for my sobriety to AA. AA however isn't the only solution. There are others that are very effective. SMART Recovery, Refuge Recovery to name 2. I'm also a licensed addiction counselor in my state having returned to school for it after being sober 8 years. I work as a case manager/group therapist at a clinic near my home.

@demonikreaper6139

3 жыл бұрын

The point I want to make is that with diabetes, as from your example, it's recognized as a genuine medical disorder or disease. Alcoholism or substance abuse in general has always been treated as a factor of willpower. But it's a mental illness. So we should approach it in that way.

@larryc7209

3 жыл бұрын

@@demonikreaper6139 It is absolutely not being treated as a factor of willpower. That hasn't been done in years. Lack of willpower over drinking is a symptom of the disorder, not the disorder itself. The diabetes example was to illustrate that you can't use the fact that you have a disease as an excuse to justify your behavior. When completing an intake on a client, the diagnosis I use is one of about 25-30 that are along the lines of "Substance abuse disorder, mild (or moderate etc...). There are others more specific but disorder is the key point. I meet the client where he or she is mentally and emotionally and start from there. In my state, we have decriminalized addiction and we have specific drug courts set up that sentence a person to treatment rather than jail for drug possession, pubic intoxication, etc., even DUI. Of course an addict will still be sentenced to jail for other offences such as robbery, assault etc that are not substance abuse specific but certainly result from the drug abuse.

Shit i been sippin since 6 am and i luv it

If alcoholism is a disease, it has a baffling rate of spontaneous remission. Most people with AUD stop with no formal help whatsoever and in some studies people who were subjected to treatment fared worse. Calling correctable behaviors diseases undermines hope and the brain disease concept is hugely fallacious.

@penelope-oe2vr

2 жыл бұрын

And is absolutely insulting to people who have real diseases like cancer etc. This is my thoughts exactly then how come so many people can overcome it? Then is is a behavioral problem!

@sethsballs8479

2 жыл бұрын

It’s better explained by the fact that people just get sick of it and quit. No one drinks involuntarily.

@kholozondi9904

2 жыл бұрын

@@penelope-oe2vr clearly if some people can overcome it themselves, then it's not a disease. Like covid, or allergies. Clearly since some people can overcome them, they can't be diseases. Infact people with cancer should be offended because it's taking away from them by acknowledging the epigenetic explanation

@kholozondi9904

2 жыл бұрын

@@sethsballs8479 people do get coerced into drugs and drinking tho. Historically, entire governments have done that. The opium wars by Britain and the alcohol payment system by Apartheid South Africa. On the small scale, you easily find cases of peer pressure, emotional manipulation and straight up drugging people / spiking drinks

@jmarth523

2 жыл бұрын

@@penelope-oe2vr who gives a fuck about the sensitivities of a person with a different disease. Having cancer isn't an identity built around the definition of the word 'disease'.

Why did you spell gene as “geen” ?

@tylerolejnicak5481

Жыл бұрын

Bro watch the video lol, it's shown immediately after why they chose to portray the words as misspelled.

Improper 'geen espresxion'.

I can stop any time I want!

@larryc7209

2 жыл бұрын

excellent. Many of us can't

@osc-omb47896

5 ай бұрын

Do it then.

Alcohol is a crime against humanity.

May be somewhat genetic for some, but not sold that it’s the case for everyone. There are many reasons why people abuse alcohol.

If this is true then literally every dysfunctional behaviour that’s chronic repetitive in nature is a disease. So if this is an issue of semantics fair enough. To be accurate you could call it a syndrome but it is absolutely not a disease. How we treat people with alcohol use disorder is a separate issue. In fact in diagnosing people with a disease with the intent of removing the stigma you leave them bereft of the empowerment to make the necessary changes because the diagnosis becomes a part of their identity. Belief leads to behaviour creates a reality. How deep is the belief when you are convinced it is a disease you are now trapped in perpetuity. 90% of people with an alcohol use disorder inevitably quit on their own. This is a statistic that just isn’t shared publicly.

@larryc7209

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not in agreement with your 90% statistic but I'm too lazy to verify it. Alcoholism is a disease but today the word disease has fallen out of use and alcohol use disorder is used. The presence of the disease is best seen by the obsession/compulsion that goes with it. If you have the obsession but don't give into it, you have the disorder (most likely). Social drinkers don't control their drinking because they don't need to. It's not an issue or a major part of their lives. Okay, now what? You might or might not be responsible for having the disorder (evidence of a genetic component).But whether you are or not, you are 100% responsible for treating it

@larsalfredhenrikstahlin8012

2 жыл бұрын

What a bunch of shit. "90% quit inevitably on their own". Just threw your credibility in the toilet. This is surface level type knowledge of statistics we have known for a hundred years and alcoholics do in fact not quit on their own "inevitably". Alcoholics usually die from alcoholism / its consequences.

Alcoholism itself is not genetic. What's genetic is a propensity for risk taking behavior which often leads to addiction. It's common in families with this propensity, to share the same addiction because they're more likely to abuse the same substance it together.

I still believe it's a behavioral problem. *Why to even try?* I have been offered drinks hundreds of time, yet I make a bad liver excuse and get out of it. As a doctor, I had some of most stressful days in my life. During internship, I had to wake up more than 24 hours in emergency ward on night shifts and then study at room for PG, with a bottle in next door of your dorm (the next door guy was alcoholic). Just don't try. No matter how much you want. You might look seperated from the group but always think you are right.

@Redbeardedbadass

2 жыл бұрын

Thats the problem. A person who has these genes only needs to try once. The solution is more education on the devestation of addictiion. Everybody has something they are genetically addicted to even though they dont know it until they try it.

I don’t think addiction is a disease, it’s usually the addict trying to self medicate for an underlying issue, that’s my experience anyway. The most common freely available and powerful drug for one to use. It’s use is normalised through thousands of years of cultural acceptance. I wouldn’t begrudge anyone for having a social beer, but for people that aren’t feeling the best, you should avoid, hangovers are horrible at the best of times. It’s the last thing you need if you’re going through a difficult time.

@whodarboilebamnames3990

2 жыл бұрын

Well, if the addiction has had effects on the body which makes it impossible for the body to function properly without that substance, it is fair to say it is a disease.

@penelope-oe2vr

2 жыл бұрын

@@whodarboilebamnames3990 absolutely not. Just because a person goes through detox when stopping the substance. So, when I stop taking my antidepressants and I go through withdrawals, then that's a disease? Pshhhaaa NOPE!

@larsalfredhenrikstahlin8012

2 жыл бұрын

@@penelope-oe2vr No, but If you ate anti-depressants, and they physically changed your brain permanently into a non working state, then that is clearly a diseased brain

@elia8544

2 жыл бұрын

The disease stems from the underlying issue eventually. Did you even watch the video?

Addiction is pain avoidance, not genetic.

@Langley-Outdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Bull, it's genetic

@whodarboilebamnames3990

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and no. You don't become addicted by abstaining, however you can be predisposed to get addicted, and stay addicted.

Southern Europeans, like myself are used to small amounts of wine at an early age.( 7 or 8 years old). As opposed to people of "Nordic decent", where hard liquor is mostly drunk. And minors are totally forbidden alcohol. I don't know how this fits in, but Italoans and Greeks, and other Mediterranean people have low rates of alcoholism, compared to Nordic.people. Maybe the "forbidden fruit" idea, is operating here. I tried drugs in the 1960s because I was curious and I wanted to know why the government wasn't allowing this

It may be something, but it is definitely not a disease.

@larryc7209

2 жыл бұрын

101% a disease

@cygnals524

Жыл бұрын

It is a mental disease which is still a disease. There are many behavioral issues that are considered diseases. I worked in the mental health field for over 10 years and can name a lot of behavioral issues that are considered diseases with their own diagnosis.

@Demian_R

Жыл бұрын

Incorrect

It’s not a fucking disease. It is a choice! My father is an alcoholic and even though he has been told his liver is pickled and he will be dead before he’s 60 if he keeps it up he still picks up that glass of alcohol and drinks the entire day. From the time he wakes up to the time he stumbles into bed he drinks. It has put my family through hell! I used to smoke a pack of cigarettes a day. I quit because I was sick of getting winded just climbing stairs. His liver is pickled and lungs and heart damaged as well as very real cognitive damage but he STILL drinks all day every day. He’s lost his job. Everything. No rock bottom is low enough for him and I’m sick of his selfishness! When they told him there alcoholism “was a disease” he used it to justify himself and that if it was a disease then it wasn’t his fault and couldn’t help it.

@jamescrane2151

2 жыл бұрын

It's a recognised illness that anyone who dosent have it will never understand. I'm a recovering alcoholic myself and when I was drinking I'd take one drink and be wanting more. Its an illness in the brain which will inevitabley destroy your body as well. I believe the 12 steps is the only way too keep up a happy life whilst absitant from alchohol and any other mind altering substances. Every action has consequences but unfortunately the alcoholic can not help it, he was born that way.

@rumfitmosey2072

9 ай бұрын

Did you watch the video, or?

@osc-omb47896

5 ай бұрын

It is a disease, a mental disease. Have you watched the actual video? And - even though you may have been gene'd into alcoholism, you can still try to improve yourself.

Nobody is born with the alcohool bottle in his mouth. You don't dring if you don't have friends who give you the drinks. I have the CHRNA3 and CHRNA5 mutations and I could have been a heavy smoker but I never smoked cause I've known how addictive and harmful it is. I never wanted to be like my relatives who started to smoke and then they got so addicted that they could not quit and they were going crazy when they had nothing to smoke

Because there is no dosage on the bottle and the suicidal culture around me.

This doesn't explain the difference between drinking alcohol and being an alcoholic.

@koolkat5217

3 жыл бұрын

You are not an alcoholic.

@koolkat5217

2 жыл бұрын

@@Demian_R no such thing as an alcoholic? Prey tell. No agro just tell me how you think that is all

@koolkat5217

2 жыл бұрын

I can abstain from alcohol for a week maybe two. Then I need to drink.

@koolkat5217

2 жыл бұрын

You have no idea. I need a drink mate.

@koolkat5217

2 жыл бұрын

Sick a bog

Improper gin expression

Shit! That means I fucked myself. Well now I know that I may need to consciously calm my own ass down.

Sounds like hank Hill narrating

If alcoholism is a disease, do you get it from a dirty toilet seat or smoking? No, it is a behavior that is learned, and if it can be learned it can be unlearned. There are millions of alcoholics who have totally sobered up via different methods. Yes, it is very difficult to totally abstain from alcohol for the rest of your life but that's what an alcoholic must do. Good luck, you're in charge now!

@active6302

3 жыл бұрын

@lemon water is smoking a disease like drinking?

@AZ-uq7kn

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. While i do believe that certain people are prone to becoming alcoholics, its not something you catch or can spread. I believe its more of a societal issue rather than a disease. I guess in a way by calling it a "disease" it makes people feel empathy towards them, allowing them to be more supportive of it.

@jayantiraphael8655

3 жыл бұрын

@@AZ-uq7kn cancer can't be transmitted or caught from a toilet seat... your emotional biased response is flawed.

@EdwardAveyard

3 жыл бұрын

Do you get phimosis from a dirty toilet seat or smoking? If it's genetic, it cannot be blamed all on culture.

@whodarboilebamnames3990

2 жыл бұрын

You can get diseases such as dementia and cancer even though they don't spread. I don't understand your point.

All I am hearing is that there's a genetic predisposition to a behaviour which sounds like an excuse for not being able to control yourself.

@larryc7209

2 жыл бұрын

you might or might not be responsible for the disorder but you are 100% responsible for your behavior. The continuous presence of the craving/compulsion is evidence of the disorder whether you act on it or not

@whodarboilebamnames3990

2 жыл бұрын

The video also focuses on the permanent side effects alcoholism. At no point excuses are made for people who chose to drink, this is just a look into the biology behind alcoholism and it's effects on the body.

@russellg1473

2 жыл бұрын

Genetic disease does not mean the same as hereditary

I couldn't concentrate on watching your video because I was too distracted by the fact that you misspelled a word gene. It's not geen it's gene.

Thrist is the worst disease I know.

Jesus you have no clue...

@demonikreaper6139

3 жыл бұрын

I'm with you buddy. We're all in this genetic shit stew together.

@whodarboilebamnames3990

2 жыл бұрын

?

@me-qx2rp

2 жыл бұрын

@@whodarboilebamnames3990 It's not genetic, thats a cop out. I have my struggles but it all my choice. Not some magical "disease", if it was a disease their would be a test to detect it (like diabetes). Its a behavior disorder led by choices. You have to change you patterns and your lifestyle. Natural risk takers are the most prone (me) and would say "fuck it" and go out and raise hell. I will acquis that if the "disease" works for ANYONE to get sober I won't shit on it. But this is a video from a guy thats not from here. In my experience I got here from boredom, some personal guilt, and I like to raise hell (but thats drunk or sober).

Alcoholism is not a disease. It is a set of shitty behaviors on repeat - despite consequences.

@Peter_1986

Ай бұрын

Incorrect: it is factually defined as a disease by doctors. You can ask the doctors directly if you want to know why it is defined that way.

Wow at 7:12, I tried drinking once when I was 12… in Wisconsin so I had 9 beers over probably 4-5 hours… no big deal but it was my first time and I was 12. By the end of the night, I didn’t believe I was drunk, even in hindsight, I always thought I was mostly sober… and oddly enough, I also “proved it” to myself because I could still juggle as a “drunk” 12 year old. (I didn’t drink again until college.) Btw, I’m also a helicopter pilot. Just sayin.

It sucks...

Sorry but 1:35 “Geen esprexion” ??????

spelled gene wrong

People DRINK to make nonsense like this interesting.

I TOTALLY disagree and I welcome you're comments. Just don't expect to be College Educated and feel that you're right because you're not and I'll explain why

@whodarboilebamnames3990

2 жыл бұрын

?

@bluesky-ud9wg

2 жыл бұрын

@@whodarboilebamnames3990 Yes?

@whodarboilebamnames3990

2 жыл бұрын

@@bluesky-ud9wg could you explain why this video's information is incorrect?

@bluesky-ud9wg

2 жыл бұрын

@@whodarboilebamnames3990 Alcoholism is an Addiction. Cigarettes, drugs, etc. It is NOT a Disease at all, it CAUSES diseases. I was with an alcoholic for 3 years and finally had to leave. I went to the AA meetings many times and it was drilled that it is a Disease, and it's not. The word Disease is used to shift the blame, spin it into something it's not to make people feel better, that it's Truly not their choice. It takes $$ to purchase the alcohol and the physical act of consuming it. There is no disease there.

@whodarboilebamnames3990

2 жыл бұрын

@@bluesky-ud9wg I don't think you understand what a disease is. If an addiction has made it so that a person can not function properly without a specific chemical compound, it is a disease. If you do not agree with this, you are claiming that diabetes is not disease.

Our brains weren’t randomly made or evolved. There’s gotta be a designer for this

@whodarboilebamnames3990

2 жыл бұрын

A designer that punishes addicts?

@lostsoul5043

2 жыл бұрын

@@whodarboilebamnames3990 yes and rewards people who don’t do drugs

@whodarboilebamnames3990

2 жыл бұрын

@@lostsoul5043 that's a cruel designer then

@lostsoul5043

2 жыл бұрын

@@whodarboilebamnames3990 deal with it hahaha

@whodarboilebamnames3990

2 жыл бұрын

@@lostsoul5043 Ok and?