Why a closed shackle padlock is best.

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Generally speaking a closed shackle padlock is best compared to an open shackle equivalent. The bottom line is that crow bar attacks are the most common. Crowbars are cheap, silent and effective but if you restrict the gap between the padlock and the hasp you lock it to then a crowbar is defeated.
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  • @leemontoya8028
    @leemontoya80283 жыл бұрын

    The last lock!! Put a pipe wrench on that bad boy! POP!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Suiseisexy
    @Suiseisexy6 ай бұрын

    I've been using the Abus 20/70 on my storage unit and what I like is that with it's keyway cover on it looks pretty much just like every other discus lock out there, so it looks like nothing special is in my unit. I had an Abloy PL330 on there, but in addition to being an open 8mm shackle it's so nice looking and so high security compared to what's on neighbors units it makes it look like there's cool stuff my unit. Security through obscurity I think someone called it. So a big part of a padlock is where it is and what it "says", the 20/70 says "I'm just a disc lock" but it's really a disc detainer that tensions off a random disc so even "the pick Bosnian bill and I made" won't actually work if you do go in for the pick, meanwhile a big shiny Abus Rock says "I don't care if you have a ramset gun, I have money and probably spent some of it on cameras too". Security will always partly be about theatre.

  • @Nothingbutpadlocks

    @Nothingbutpadlocks

    6 ай бұрын

    Nice comment and good points!

  • @bricks-mortar
    @bricks-mortar8 ай бұрын

    TY. Never knew such existed.

  • @ianmaw66
    @ianmaw66 Жыл бұрын

    I had to drill an Discus lock and it was very easy and made almost no noise. I would never buy one again.

  • @Nothingbutpadlocks

    @Nothingbutpadlocks

    Жыл бұрын

    It largely depends what you drilled. If it was a genuine Abus then drilling the keyway would not release the shackle. The Abus also contain a hardened plate under the outer stainless body.

  • @Doc.Holiday
    @Doc.Holiday Жыл бұрын

    Yea but you can get a pipe wrench on the disk lock and something is going to give. Hasp or lock.

  • @mcw089
    @mcw0894 жыл бұрын

    Along the same line a pipe wrench applied to the body of padlock is a common method around my way.

  • @modelsfirst

    @modelsfirst

    2 жыл бұрын

    That will bust open nearly every padlock made.

  • @Skrubb_Lord
    @Skrubb_Lord3 жыл бұрын

    You could try a custom security pinned puck-lock.

  • @pericodelospalotes5738
    @pericodelospalotes57383 жыл бұрын

    Yes, we can't do anything to difficult it but nothing resists an angle or die grinder.

  • @abdulalimomar6116
    @abdulalimomar6116 Жыл бұрын

    On the shackle put two big nuts to reduce the space for crowbar.

  • @salvadorvizcarra769

    @salvadorvizcarra769

    Жыл бұрын

    No padlock can stand up to the presence of a Cordless Angle Grinder Mighty Powerful Makita XAG13Z1 - 36 Volt Lithium battery powered steel cutter, armed with a high quality industrial grade 3M-7200 DAD-D (Diamond Abrasive Disc - "Diablo").

  • @Sun_Downer
    @Sun_Downer3 жыл бұрын

    Unless you use a wrench and just grab the whole padlock.

  • @modelsfirst

    @modelsfirst

    2 жыл бұрын

    That won't work with a diskus lock but it might still break the hasp.

  • @juanbaclavab
    @juanbaclavab4 жыл бұрын

    You'll need 8 tons of pulling force to defeat the Abus 37rk/70 for instance. Good luck with that

  • @northcave

    @northcave

    4 жыл бұрын

    RANT you’re quite right! I agree... perhaps I should have done it with a different open shackle lock! I did however say “unless it’s one of the best ones, it won’t hold”... and id call that Granit is “one of the best ones” :)

  • @chrisj3789

    @chrisj3789

    2 жыл бұрын

    Think you need a lesson in Levers and Mechanical Advantage

  • @SomeGuy-vo7we

    @SomeGuy-vo7we

    29 күн бұрын

    A lock is only as secure as the hasp it's attached to. Might take 8 tons to force the lock, but an average hasp will give out far before that 😂

  • @frankmontez6853
    @frankmontez6853 Жыл бұрын

    Yeah cover the shackle is best . Some container padlocks just laugh at saws . Once we tried to cut open these extremely heavy duty one and nothing . Didn't scratch it

  • @SaltNBattery
    @SaltNBattery Жыл бұрын

    They don't have bolt cutters out there? Cause that's by far the most common attack out here. That or a hammer.

  • @yovolvo9130
    @yovolvo91306 ай бұрын

    The round padlock can be open with the drill in 5 second.

  • @eclipse8405
    @eclipse8405 Жыл бұрын

    His door has two holes. Use both holes with both kind of locks

  • @frankmontez6853
    @frankmontez6853 Жыл бұрын

    Maybe the diferent kind of thieves use different ways . They don't use several different ways but use only one for each lock . A bike thief might more commonly use bolt cutters and a container thief might use another way to get through . Depending on how hard you make it for them and how much you spend . Niece's place padlock was cut with bolt cutters . Now bought her a disc lock that is a low priced but added nuts to shackle to protect it even more . Her door and the latch doesn't look verry tough at all .. though . Next way might be cordless grinding wheel cutters . if I was a thief and wanted to spend more that's what I would use . They go through a lot of things .

  • @Nsatiro
    @Nsatiro3 жыл бұрын

    Smaller tool???

  • @gahlaphagosgamingdocs3208
    @gahlaphagosgamingdocs32083 ай бұрын

    He looks like husband of sofia coppola frontman of phoenix

  • @ipwnxdemonzz4223
    @ipwnxdemonzz42233 жыл бұрын

    U can twist them off

  • @badkid73
    @badkid734 жыл бұрын

    Try a crowbar against an Abloy PL350 or ABUS 37/70. A crowbar will lose. But it's all about the weakest link. The diskus lock is not vulnerable to crowbars but has other vulnerabilities. I'd still take a higher security large shackle lock any day.

  • @Steven-gv1ke

    @Steven-gv1ke

    Жыл бұрын

    Yup. Lock picking lawyer has a video where he twists a disc lock with a pipe wrench and it's a very easy low skill attack.

  • @escapetherace1943

    @escapetherace1943

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Steven-gv1ke the locks that completely sheath the disc locks are definitely a step up and can't really be attacked except by lockpickers

  • @johnnieguitar5724
    @johnnieguitar57243 жыл бұрын

    Another lock expert showed how easy Discus locks are to pick so I guess I'd like a more challenging closed shackle padlock to combat crowbars AND lock pickers. Correct?

  • @Nothingbutpadlocks

    @Nothingbutpadlocks

    3 жыл бұрын

    Completely depends on who made the cylinder. A lot of discus locks are Chinese rubbish and hence easy to pick. An Abus one is really not easy. And if in doubt they do a discus lock with a Plus Cylinder.

  • @modelsfirst

    @modelsfirst

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Nothingbutpadlocks Very unlikely thieves have the custom made tools & practiced skill to pick Plus/ Disk detainer locks. Just 2yrs ago LPL could not pick Abus plus locks but he can now.

  • @Ziegel8171
    @Ziegel81712 жыл бұрын

    Can’t I just grind down my crowbar end so it would pretty much fit it any hole but still be hard enough?

  • @modelsfirst

    @modelsfirst

    2 жыл бұрын

    You could get a narrower long bar in of course but still very unlikely to break the Abus 90mm solid discus. Much more likely to break is a hasp it's locked to. Lock is only part of the equation.

  • @evasuser
    @evasuser4 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the info m8, I didn't know that. I think granit has been picked, no need for crowbars and grinders.

  • @scottlandoldsharbert7278

    @scottlandoldsharbert7278

    4 жыл бұрын

    Unless Lockpicking Lawyer is breaking into your house - that means nothing. Garden variety thieves are not lockpickers.

  • @badkid73

    @badkid73

    4 жыл бұрын

    The ABUS core is only pickable with a very special tool which is unlikely to be carried by your thief. It is not pickable in the way a tumbler lock is picked. If you're worried about lock pickers (and you shouldn't be unless you have a cheap tumbler mechanism), buy an Abloy Protec PL350 or PL362.

  • @glyn2370
    @glyn2370 Жыл бұрын

    I'm really boring, I'm sat up at 4:30am watching a video about padlocks. 😴

  • @teslacoiler
    @teslacoiler3 жыл бұрын

    Try a shutter lock.... but not with this tiny latch!

  • @mathieu00805
    @mathieu00805 Жыл бұрын

    crowbar are for novice a pros will go whit a pipe wrench

  • @LXT43
    @LXT433 жыл бұрын

    Skinny fellow with cute haircut would not have the strength to pry that ABUS open. He doesn't even want to try because he knows he would fail.

  • @whatsup7184
    @whatsup71842 жыл бұрын

    You know what??? From your appearance, I wouldn't think that watch belongs to you. YOu know what I mean and I am serious.

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