I've actually seen job postings for the target forensics lab (I'm a DNA analyst at a government lab). They really are no joke. That being said, Sam! ASCLD/LAB doesn't exist anymore and they haven't since 2016. They got absorbed by ANAB, a different accrediting body. Just another thing to add to your yearly mistakes video. 😄

@NotnotnotnotnotnotchatGPT

3 ай бұрын

Idk why but this has almost made me cry.

@g.4279

3 ай бұрын

@@NotnotnotnotnotnotchatGPT Do you perhaps, have sugma?

@MaksB.

3 ай бұрын

Indeed

@mctielpresidente

3 ай бұрын

​​@@NotnotnotnotnotnotchatGPT Death from a ridiculously long and witty acronym 😢 Too much sauce on that name, lol.

@ldplays5663

3 ай бұрын

This is sauce guys, i'm here before this blows up.

I used to work at Target. A few things to add: each store knows what their local county felony level for theft is, and they don't call the cops until they have footage implicating you in enough thefts that they total over that amount. Also, even though I'm confident that corporate is worried about shrink, not *once* was the word even mentioned to a single team member at my store. In contrast, every associate was required to memorize their store's weekly shrink number when I worked at Kroger. Finally, he's right. Target doesn't care about small-time shoplifting, only about the people who try to make careers out of it.

@willythemailboy2

3 ай бұрын

Every major retailer does the felony cutoff thing as far as I know. I know when I worked at Meijer they called the cops on a habitual shoplifter and caught her with not only a bunch of merchandise but a bag of weed the size of a throw pillow. "It's legal because I bought it in Colorado" did not work out as well for her as she thought it would. Shrink numbers were discussed, but at the employee level it was in terms of damaged and spoiled products rather than theft. Things we could control vs things we couldn't.

@thatdamncrow9197

3 ай бұрын

@@willythemailboy2lmao she really thought that would work? Regardless of where you are or how you obtained it crossing state borders with weed is a felony Even if you crossed a weed legal state to another weed legal state

@willythemailboy2

3 ай бұрын

@@thatdamncrow9197 She wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. I believe the charge was felony possession with intent to deliver, and I think that charge was one of those not included in the state's blanket pardons and record expungements. It wouldn't surprise me if she was still in prison even now 5 years later.

@clucero1986

3 ай бұрын

Tell that to the Target LP that caught me stealing a Tomogachi 30 years ago.

@mikalamcgowan

3 ай бұрын

@@clucero1986 I'd love to, lol. You got a time machine?

Not Target related, but I remember for my orientation at Walmart in 2020 when I was first hired, they took us into the AP room and showed off the cameras. Those things were insane, showing us how well the quality was even after a 12x zoom, the neural networks being trained on the overhead cameras at self checkout (they were checking if each individual product was moved from the basket and scanned to the register and back), and before the tour was complete, the manager used an outside camera and zoomed into the menu of the Taco Bell across the street and starting planning an order because he was about to head over for his lunch.

@heroninja1125

3 ай бұрын

Some security cameras also have insane optical zooms. There's one at my school which has a 50x optical zoom and is controllable like a ball turret.

@plighting_engineerd

3 ай бұрын

LOL WOW

@FTorrez81

3 ай бұрын

What a cool way of saying don’t even try it lol

@SayAhh

3 ай бұрын

So like Vegas, then.

@D4M14N1989

3 ай бұрын

That’s there maybe not so subtle way to let employees know not to steal shit. Employee theft is actually a very significant part of shrink losses.

"Dead Men Buy No Candles" -- a lesser known classic Noir film.

@tessjuel

3 ай бұрын

I think it was withdrawn after the creators of the classic "Dead Men Buy No Candies" movie sued them for plagiarism.

Dead men really do buy no candles.

@NotnotnotnotnotnotchatGPT

3 ай бұрын

Or do they?

@NotnotnotnotnotnotchatGPT

3 ай бұрын

Nevermind Sam is well researched when it comes to dead people.

@Alex58399

3 ай бұрын

Lots of candles around a coffin at a funeral though 💰

@NotnotnotnotnotnotchatGPT

3 ай бұрын

You’re not wrong about that

@travisgruba1627

3 ай бұрын

But do they tell tales about the candles?

Silly Ben trying to get rid of Sam so he and Adam can win the next season of Jet Lag by default.

@caltheuntitled8021

3 ай бұрын

The budget for the season will still come from Sam’s pockets, of course

@SpeedBird6780

3 ай бұрын

This time he hired Amy to do it.

@TheMajorStranger

3 ай бұрын

@@SpeedBird6780 That's weird on Nebula it said it writer was Ben Doyle?

@mt_xing

3 ай бұрын

​@@TheMajorStranger They don't update the template for Nebula descriptions very often. The uploads on Nebula had broken links to their socials for months before someone noticed and fixed it. It wouldn't surprise me if it just had the wrong writer copied and pasted in, especially since we see Amy go to Target.

@enisra_bowman

3 ай бұрын

@@SpeedBird6780 or Amy want's to replace Sam in the next season and conspires with Ben

I worked for many years as a Loss Prevention Analyst for a large retail cooperation. I was building cases for serious financial crimes. I was giving more info to police then the police were every able to collect. We also got thousands of requests a year from police for our surveillance footage because of a criminal that passed through our store.

@goosenotmaverick1156

3 ай бұрын

Hmmmmmm. I smell a former Walmartian

@cdnpoli101

3 ай бұрын

@@goosenotmaverick1156 nope! Canadian corporation!

@RedRightHand652

3 ай бұрын

@@cdnpoli101I’m going to guess under the Loblaws umbrella

@goosenotmaverick1156

3 ай бұрын

@@cdnpoli101 dang! Was worth a shot haha. Be glad you're not one, I live near the home of Walmart and it's not great working for them.

@brunhildevalkyrie

3 ай бұрын

Did you like ruining people’s lives?

One of my favorite memories in retail. This guy who pocketed expensive items knew he was being tailed in the store. So he bolted. I'm outside on the opposite end in the garden section chatting it up with all the old ladies in my quiet section. The shoplifter runs right past, screaming obscenities. Then I see our LP lead attempting to run as he grabs his chest and screaming for the man to stop. Followed by the second LP guy who outruns the Lead. THEN see my manager in the forklift, speeding across into multiple parking lots chasing after the shoplifter also. It was pretty easy for the cops to find the shoplifter as the Lead LP told 911, "It's the guy who's being chased by two guys on foot and a forklift."

@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger

3 ай бұрын

Little known fact: Forklifts are the shoplifter's natural predator.

@JoeRogansForehead

2 ай бұрын

Illegal

@LRM12o8

Ай бұрын

Speeding across a parking lot sounds dangerous AS HELL! I would never go to that store again if I saw that play out!

@johnrickard8512

Ай бұрын

The Benny Hill theme would be a fitting addition to this scene 😂

@tauforlife

Ай бұрын

@@JoeRogansForehead Depending on the state - it was very likely LEGAL.

One thing to note, (many) Big Box retailers actually train their employees to literally do nothing if they witness shoplifting, as nobody knows what lengths a person would go to to steal their $2 candy bar. A certain navy blue hardware retailer I know requires that their associates use regular customer service skills on people who are suspected of theft and then fill out a web based report should they steal something or exhibit behaviors common to those who would be shoplifting.

@macmedic892

3 ай бұрын

I was going to say the same thing. Big companies would much rather lose the merchandise than have to deal with a worker’s compensation claim from an employee being injured trying to apprehend a shoplifter and/or pay damages to an injured shoplifter.

@misseselise3864

Ай бұрын

when i worked at a gas station, we were told to never confront the shoplifter then call our manager after the person left the premises even if the person was armed (ESPECIALLY if the person was armed). it was drilled into our heads that they will fire you immediately if you interfere with a shoplifter. once while i was working overnight, we got robbed & another customer arrived while it was happening. he just went back to his car and called the cops and i guess one must’ve been pretty close bc they arrived after like two minutes. the robber was still there so he got arrested & i called my manager to tell him what happened. i was told i was suspended effective immediately until corporate sent them footage that proved i wasn’t the one who called 911. i told them not to worry about the footage because i wouldn’t be returning to work there. even the cops said i hadn’t been the one to place the call and my manager didn’t give a fuck. i get not wanting an employee to intervene for safety reasons but to have my only source of income suddenly halted over a call i never made and didn’t know was being made was ridiculous. to add insult to injury, the manager put me in their system at not rehireable so i can never work at any of their gas station locations for the rest of my life 🙄

Funny that Target can have a crime solving lab but can't secure their corporate network which let criminals steal user data. Then settled and paid the Target CEO at the time more than total of stolen data.

@neoxyte

3 ай бұрын

It's cheaper for them to pay settlements and small fines it seems. There's no incentive for these big corporations to protect user data because at the end of the day, being breached doesn't cost the company much money

@phelan8385

3 ай бұрын

@@neoxyte Exactly! It's all about relatively short term profits. People need to realize these corporations are ran by actual psychopaths that would put us in shackles to slave away 20 hours a day if they could get away with it.

@royce9018

3 ай бұрын

It’s almost like they are two entirely different things. But don’t let facts get in the way of your tantrum there little buddy 😂

@magesalmanac6424

3 ай бұрын

It wasn’t a tantrum bruh, you have less chill than the other poster. 🤔

@andrewjgrimm

3 ай бұрын

They need to have a monetary value for the user data and its breach.

Target has a prodit margin of 3.8% . So shrink is 1/3 of the size of the profit margin. Kinda a big deal , this video went hard on down playing it.

Depending on the State, retail security officers can absolutely tackle and cuff you. In Oregon I know this is the case.

@planescaped

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, that part of the video was a bit of a double take, as I am pretty sure that it wasn't as simple as that.

@roflchopter11

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, but if they do that, depending on who the retail officer and who the suspect are, they might risk having to watch their stores be looted across the country in the name of equity.

@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger

3 ай бұрын

Depends on the risk of retaliation and or the probability that person will actually serve any time. Portland is not doing good right now and its spread to other cities as well. Repeal prop 110, bring back policing, get rid of the enabler judges letting everyone out left and right.

@captiannemo1587

3 ай бұрын

The biggest problem is keeping people in jail is rather expensive.

@writheagainsoon

3 ай бұрын

​@@Your-Least-Favorite-Strangerjust did jury duty. Judges can send people to prison every week for the rest of their lives. Doesn't do shit when prisons are so full they actively look for reasons to let people out asap.

I grew up one mile from the very first Target. They were good at catching shoplifters in the 60s. (don’t ask me how I know). I’m not surprised they’ve maintained that ‘strength.’

@darklex5150

14 күн бұрын

How do you know?

No one's going to mention the amazing acronym that is LAB, the Laboratory Accreditation Board??

Retail loss prevention actually does have arrest power in a lot of states.

@Dexaan

3 ай бұрын

And in places where they don't, I'd imagine any off-duty cop who wants to make a bit of extra cash is welcome to apply.

@Haarschmuckfachgeschafttadpole

3 ай бұрын

Not arrest power, but they can detain you physically until the police arrive.

@timeisexpensive

3 ай бұрын

even if loss prevention doesn't have it by virtue of being loss prevention, citizens arrest is absolutely a thing

@kitsunekaze93

3 ай бұрын

dont civilians have arrest powers? if someone grabs my wallet, i can citizens arrest them, at least for a reasonable time until police arrives

@timhorton8085

3 ай бұрын

A citizen's arrest is usually only valid for a violent crime or grand larceny. Shoplifting would not qualify a citizen's arrest and would lead to the detaining party being open to civil and criminal liability. Can you initiate a citizen's arrest for someone stealing a car? Yes. For stealing a candy bar? No.

The wispered “I cannot be killed” out of nowhere got me so well

Most shrink isn't theft. The vast majority of it is damaged goods and the like.

@sentientnatalie

3 ай бұрын

Exactly.

@catalintimofti1117

2 ай бұрын

Fr fr

4:49 here’s one for a future correction video: the video appears to be motor oil going in a crankcase rather than gasoline into a tank as Sam said

@probablynot1368

3 ай бұрын

I noticed that, too.

I've seen people steal baby formula and always turn a blind eye. They're not doing it for kicks.

@MrViewsonix

12 күн бұрын

Baby Formula is often stolen because it is so easy to resell online or at swap meets.

Honestly, as someone who works in a smaller retail chain store and has had to deal with theft issues from an organized shoplifting group, I can confirm that we don't file police reports or call the cops in the majority of the cases, because the cops won't do anything even when we have things like license plates or know the people responsible. We've even had issues where a woman who was actively out on bail from the next town over from being involved in thousands of dollars of shoplifting, came into our store and attempted to steal stuff by going into an employee only section without permission. Our manager caught her in the act, and she rushed out of the store. The police did nothing. I also have personally chased down a woman who used her three children, (all of which were less than 10 years old), to steal backpacks. She had them run out of the store with the backpacks and when I confronted her she started chasing after them pretending to stop them, only to hop in her car. I ran up to her telling her to stop, and she started saying "we bought those and were thinking about returning them", even though two seconds earlier she was saying she was going to "beat their asses for stealing", and she turned her car on and sped off. We got images of everything, and called the police, and the car was a rental from a local location. The police did absolutely nothing to try and follow up and arrest her.

@nunya___

3 ай бұрын

Unless it's a serious person-on-person crime or a maintaining of civil order situation...police mostly don't care. Petty crime.

@r8gg

3 ай бұрын

Do you really care that much about some backpacks for some kids??? They were probably too broke to buy them.. lmfao try hard. your job description doesn't ask you to do that

@Gamer3427

3 ай бұрын

@@r8gg For context, we're a shoe store that also sells accessories such as backpacks and purses. These were around $200 worth of backpacks, and she was suspected, (and later confirmed), as part of this group of thieves who have stolen thousands of dollars worth of merchandise from various stores in the area to resell. Don't try to play it off as "too poor to buy backpacks" without knowing the context. We had already had an eye on them since they came into the store, because she was suspected as being a part of the group, and as she came in our manager caught her staring at her and talking on the phone saying "yea, she's here". Without definitive proof of theft, or catching them in the act, we can't confront customers for stealing, so all we can do is watch them closely. We also didn't have a security guard in the shopping center until recently, so it was entirely on the employees to do loss prevention, and we'd been receiving a lot of pressure from our district manager and above regarding preventing theft. The only reason I was over there to where I could confront them as they started to rush out the door to begin with was because I was walking nearby to make sure she hadn't stolen more merchandise. Particularly since they were loitering near the purses as well, which at the time we had been dealing with the group having stolen so many of a particular brand of purse that we had to completely take them off the normal shelves and place them behind the register. The moment I started walking over there is when she had her kids rush out the store. This wasn't a case of "desperate and needed them for school". If that was all it was there were far less expensive backpacks she could have targeted. This was a woman actively using her kids to steal because they could get away with it, and I genuinely feel sorry for those kids because being taught at such an early age that stealing is fine will definitely cause them issues throughout life. The youngest of them couldn't have been more than five or six.

@TACTICALwaffle2

3 ай бұрын

@@Gamer3427don’t even bother with these people, they think all theft is good and that people only steal to feed themselves because they’ve been ideologically brainwashed into believing “oppressed” people can do whatever they want to “privileged” people

@faustinpippin9208

3 ай бұрын

@@r8gg typical leftoid making excuses for theft and criminals.

Shrink meaningfully hurts all retailers. 1.2% requires most retailers at least 3.6% to cover just that 1.2% before regaining profit on sales.

2:31 Therapist: Don't worry, mouth HAI doesn't exist, it can't hurt you. Mouth HAI:

3:59 This is not true, there is such a thing as Shopkeeper's Privilege in most states that allows Loss Prevention to call the cops, and stop you from leaving until the cops arrive.

@sendthis9480

3 ай бұрын

⁠@@nunya___ No it’s not. North Carolina has all the same “Shopkeepers Privilege” laws. 14-72.1 (C) A merchant, or the merchant's agent or employee, or a peace officer who detains or causes the arrest of any person shall not be held civilly liable for detention, malicious prosecution, false imprisonment, or false arrest of the person detained or arrested, where such detention is upon the premises of the store or in a reasonable proximity thereto, is in a reasonable manner for a reasonable length of time, and, if in detaining or in causing the arrest of such person, the merchant, or the merchant's agent or employee, or the peace officer had at the time of the detention or arrest probable cause to believe that the person committed the offense created by this section. If the person being detained by the merchant, or the merchant's agent or employee, is a minor under the age of 18 years, the merchant or the merchant's agent or employee, shall call or notify, or make a reasonable effort to call or notify the parent or guardian of the minor, during the period of detention. A merchant, or the merchant's agent or employee, who makes a reasonable effort to call or notify the parent or guardian of the minor shall not be held civilly liable for failing to notify the parent or guardian of the minor.

@TACTICALwaffle2

3 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@nunya___no it’s not, NC has shopkeepers privilege. N.C.G.S.§14-72.1

@tauforlife

Ай бұрын

I have yet to see a SINGLE video on this channel that didn't contain false "information"

Word on the street is that when Target does these pro bono cases, they ask for just a patch from the law enforcement agency in question in return, and have a wall of all of the patches at the lab. (I haven’t seen it myself, but I earned a Computer Forensics degree from a university in St. Paul, so odds are the second or third hand info being shared was reasonably likely to be accurate.)

I work at a grocery store in a shopping center with a Target in it. When ANYTHING goes down in the center we call them. They have 10x better security than the hired aecurity guards for the center and they respond immediately. Idk about the rest of their business practices but they do security right. Never knew about this stuff though ahahaha!!

Target having a world class forensics facility is proof that the march towards a dystopian cyberpunk future is possible

Losing 1.2% of your sales is a massive deal! Retailers have a profit margin of around 4%. They could theoretically add 30% to their profit and value by eliminating stealing and losses.

@XIIchiron78

3 ай бұрын

And yet wage theft still dwarfs all other kinds of theft by several times 🥲 Where is the loss prevention for everyone else?

@ian3580

3 ай бұрын

Target's net profit margin is 3.4%. Walmart is 2.55%. Not sure how you get that they could theoretically add 30% to their net profit by eliminating shrink unless you think that eliminating those issues would not cost them anything. They let a lot of it slide specifically because stopping it costs more money.

@XIIchiron78

3 ай бұрын

@@ian3580 1.2% is 30% of 4%

@XIIchiron78

3 ай бұрын

@@j.d.714 I am definitely not a Marxist, lol

@cooltwittertag

3 ай бұрын

thats not how maths work

I was in the local Rite Aid several years ago. I stopped in to grab something on my way to work. (Which meant I was in a bit of a hurry.) So I grabbed what I was there for, which was at the back of the store. Then I headed for the registers, at kind of a brisk walk. Well, this young guy was rummaging around on one of the shelves on that aisle. He looked so, saw me coming, and BOLTED out of the store. The cashier and I had a good laugh about it.

Merchants do have the privilege to "detain" third parties when they have actual knowledge that a crime has been committed and reasonably know who did it.

@Hemostat

3 ай бұрын

Ive def seen a target security guard tackle someone too

@benjaminlynch9958

3 ай бұрын

That very much depends on the jurisdiction, and most retail chains won’t allow their staff to do so even if the law allows it for a couple reasons: (1) it’s a huge safety concern if the crook is armed and willing to get violent, and (2) if the low level and low paid staff make any kind of mistake, it’s a multi-million dollar lawsuit waiting to happen.

@georgeprout42

3 ай бұрын

Where you live maybe. Here we don't have an average (!) of two mass shootings per day, nor do we have people walking around with guns who are unaware that their toddler will kill them with it tomorrow. Don't make sweeping statements on a global platform, banjo boy.

@TheLocalGeek

3 ай бұрын

@@benjaminlynch9958There are two jobs making million-dollar decisions every day at the Big Box Store: the CEO and the store-level security people.

@aceking_offsuit

3 ай бұрын

Yes. Some cities and states allow merchants to use reasonable force to stop someone from stealing from them. They still don't want employees to do it because the potential costs of a bad stop (an injury to the employee, or a lawsuit if they somehow go after the wrong person) are so high that the risk isn't worth it.

A fine point, retailers have very small margins, so while sheinkage might only lead to 1.2% loss in revenue, the loss to profits are probably many times higher

@SaltyChickenDip

3 ай бұрын

3.8% is Target's profit margin last year.

@KP-ty9yl

3 ай бұрын

I was gonna say, if their profit margin is 5% of the total, theft would eat up almost a quarter of their profits.

This kinda reminds me of AWS. Amazon had such good digital infrastructure that they said "hey anyone want help managing servers" and now basically half the internet is hosted on AWS.

One of my forensic science students now works for Target lab in MN doing fingerprint analysis.

Heh during my darker days with drug addiction, it was known among my fellow.......peers....., that Target is off limits for stealing. Would always hear how they have the most advanced and sophisticated surveillance and won't hesitate to throw the book at you. I think they gone the way of Walmart now with waiting until you hit felony $$$ before nabbing you.

When I worked at K-Mart back in the 70's in Chicago, our security folks could grab folks. We had a bunch of off-duty police and they were amazing. We handled much more cash back then so security was necessary so we didn't have armed robberies at the cashier area. During Christmas time, we could easily take in a $1/4 million in cash in one day. We emptied the registers about once an hour and I had to carry the cash bag with security up to the vault. Most of the shoplifters were teenagers that were banned from the store. When we had professional thieves show up, things got quite interesting if they tried to leave before the police showed up. They were mostly worried about high value items like consumer electronics which were pretty pricey back then (no china). If they tried to fight their way out of the store, they always lost. The good old days when actions had consequences. I'm not sure retailers could afford security like that today when they are competing with Amazon.

This is very interesting, but what if they started selling bricks. Can you do a video on a store that used to sell more normal retail products, that now sells bricks?

@dukesalt

3 ай бұрын

What do you mean by this

@PretendingToBeAHuman

3 ай бұрын

@@dukesalt Bricks have been a long-running joke on the channel. It started out with Sam talking about bricks for the first minute of videos that went into topics concerning governments and security and stuff, to “bore the FBI into clicking away quickly”. Since then the joke has kept growing and now bricks are practically the HAI mascot.

"Dead men buy no candles" may be the best line ever spoken on KZread

Actually HAI video editor, as a European, I DO need that label on Minneapolis. I have no clue where or what that place is

@adog3129

3 ай бұрын

i'm american and idk where it is

@awaredeshmukh3202

4 күн бұрын

It's a city in Minnesota, which is a state right smack in the middle of the border with Canada. Very cold and the state stereotype I've heard is soft spoken. A lot of people of Scandinavian descent, which also influences the accent.

Hmmm I've seen Walmart loss prevention tackle a shoplifter from a full run. They waited til he exited the inner door to the foyer then ran and tackled him. Then Walmart employees were threatening the people recording the struggle on their phones, saying it was illegal to record and they'd be arrested for it.

@enisra_bowman

3 ай бұрын

well, there is a difference on what People allowed to do and what they actually do

A lot of loss prevention security guards can and will stop you from leaving with stolen items, and even detain you in some cases.

The problem with organised shoplifting is they also often target stores in lower income areas which are also very often stores that are either losing money or at best breaking even. So mass organised shoplifting can very easily turn a slightly money losing store to an unsustainable store even before causing risk to staff and normal customers. It's why so many retail deserts are appearing across the US it's just no longer either safe or sustainable to have stores in those areas.

@smith13514

3 ай бұрын

Almost like.. the call is coming from inside the house (lower income area)

Revenue is a terrible metric for shrink losses as revenue is sales before costs and expenses. Operating income is a better measure and the $600 million in shrinkage would be 16% of yearly operating income.

It's worth noting that the "security can't do anything" concept varies by location. Any person in Canada who witnesses someone committing a crime in relation to property they have an interest in has the lawful authority to use reasonable force to stop the crime, recover the property, effect an arrest, and use reasonable force to defend themselves while doing so.

@zephsmith3499

3 ай бұрын

Wow, that's the sanest thing about Canada I've heard in months. I'm surprised that hasn't been changed.

@AltonV

3 ай бұрын

In Sweden you can do it if jail time is a possible penalty of the crime

Super interesting video, but it’s totally off base to say that theft doesn’t affect Target that much. Shrink might be roughly 1.2% of revenue, but it’s a far larger percentage of Target’s profit. If we take the $600 million figure from this video and Target’s 2022 net earnings from its most recent 10K form ($2.78 billion), that’s 22% of profit robbed every year. We’ll have to wait for this year’s data to see how accurate the shrink estimate is and what Target’s earnings were in 2023, but no matter what we’re talking about a lot more than 1%. Even that figure understates the harms of shoplifting, because stores in more crime-ridden neighborhoods are much more vulnerable to theft, and when Target has to shut down because they’re not profitable, they leave people in the neighborhood without a place to shop for groceries and basic products. Anacostia, a majority-black neighborhood in DC, is a food desert because grocery stores are routinely targeted by shoplifters and companies can’t afford to stay open.

@12vscience

3 ай бұрын

A lack of property rights and low intelligence are the foundation for poverty.

A lot of loss prevention specialists actually are accredited police, either off duty cops working part time or licensed security guards with police powers inside the store. It varies by jurisdiction, but some can and will tackle, cuff, and arrest shoplifters and hold them until the local PD arrives.

@bigjimmy428

3 ай бұрын

Most big box stores will not hire off duty police for AP/LP because of the blurred line of a police officer watching a crime. Many police officers will work off duty as security or assist AP.

This was Full·on interesting! I had NO idea they had anything to do with forensics, but it kinda fits because of circumstances. Weird how a group can start in one area, and end up in an entirely different field.

When it comes down to it, if your losses due to shoplifting are up to $600,000,000 a year, your budget to prevent shoplifting is also up to $600,000,000 a year

@DoomFinger511

3 ай бұрын

That makes no sense. There is one budget to cover losses, then there is another budget for prevention.

@tookitogo

3 ай бұрын

@@DoomFinger511It makes total sense: you can invest as much into loss prevention as the value of the losses it will prevent, without impacting your budget negatively.

@Chance-ny4bc

3 ай бұрын

​@@tookitogoonly if every dollar spent saves a dollar in shinkage, which is a wild assumption to make

@tookitogo

3 ай бұрын

@@Chance-ny4bc I think that depends entirely on the situation. Businesses aren’t stupid: if they know that a given investment in loss prevention will more than make up for it, then they’ll do it. If it won’t, or proves not to after the fact, then they’ll stop.

Target's profit margin is only 3.4%. 1.2% lost to shrink is important.

@ZontarDow

3 ай бұрын

If the average Target location sees an increase of 400$ in theft per day that's their entire profit margin gone, and many locations already operate at a loss to compete with Walmart

I feel like I've been challenged to try and steal a candle when I die. Challenge accepted

Hey this is great stuff! I'd love to see how far this can go.

It's awesome that Target went from going overboard for money to doing police work for free-capitalism for the win!

on why so few people report known cases of shop lifting. i have a friendo who works retail, according to him if he does anything to stop shoplifting or reports the case, he could be fired. I feel like this might be a contributing factor

@zirconiumdiamond1416

3 ай бұрын

Stopping, I understand (even if I don't agree) given the danger. But why the heck would they object to reporting the crime?

@catkook543

3 ай бұрын

@@zirconiumdiamond1416 i think theres a law that protects shop lifters

@DoomFinger511

3 ай бұрын

The report part is related to if he contacted the police. Retail stores want to keep that internal and choose whether to have a public record of shoplifting in order to control reports of their loss/profit margins. Also to prevent any situations where police might investigate and stumble upon something the store did wrong. It has nothing to do with any form of shoplifter protection.

@catkook543

3 ай бұрын

@@DoomFinger511 alright thank you for the further clarity on the specifics of it.

From watching Fishing Garret I have learned you can get those Tokay Geckos by just going to the Florida Everglades and yoinking them off the trees and such. I guess that means you can sell them for super high profits based on your research.

@Ushio01

3 ай бұрын

Not sure where he got those prices from they are $100 in most pet shops. So looked up the article it's the price for smuggling 'pure' (rolls eyes) wild caught Tokay's from their natural range where they are endangered for use in Chinese medicine.

@joost1120

Ай бұрын

Most of these very expensive lizards are bred for specific colours. These morphs, as they are called, take a lot of time and effort to achieve. It's important to note that unlike special dog breeds, these lizards are still perfectly healthy. They would have little issue surviving in the wild, although some species would lack their natural camouflage. A regular Tokay gecko isn't going to go for much. You can find them in pretty much every shop for under a $100.

2:24 Liked the video just for that Edit: It wasn't just for that joke but I wanted my commnt to sound better. Being honest here.

I’m not a target type of person, but this is admirable. What I find most impressive about the whole system is they do it pro bono. Unless you’re a large agency, the budget just isn’t there for more intricate forensic analysis.

@willythemailboy2

3 ай бұрын

I sat on a jury for a case of a passenger in a car being charged with possession of a crack pipe found under his seat. The prosecutor and cop witness tried to make the case that simple proximity meant it belonged to him and not the owner of the car. What threw me is they brought the pipe to the trial, opened the sealed bag and handled it without gloves - but it had never been dusted for fingerprints at all! They hadn't bothered to do the bare minimum to show the suspect had ever touched the pipe. I think we "deliberated" for all of five minutes before telling the judge where the prosecutor could shove his case.

I suddenly have an urge to go shoplift a Kit Kat. Weird

@randonamedboosh

3 ай бұрын

woop woop thats the sound of the police

@rennoc6478

3 ай бұрын

Woop woop thats the sound of the police

@lv1543

3 ай бұрын

Be straight, obey the law

@randonamedboosh

3 ай бұрын

@@rennoc6478 I eat drywall

@sentientnatalie

3 ай бұрын

@@lv1543 Fine, I'm just glad this isn't the 1850s, which'd punish me with fines and imprison for harbouring escaped slaves, because you could not exercise compassion for same if you wished to "obey the law".

Back in college I worked for Lowe's and we were told about a group of truck unloaders that were stealing large amounts of power tools, they would drop it in gap around the bay door then retrieve it after their shift. Allegedly they got away with $250K before getting caught

@teh-maxh

3 ай бұрын

At Lowes prices, that means they stole what, three power tools?

@tylerboothman4496

3 ай бұрын

I worked at Walmart, and the same exact thing happened with TVs

And yet shoplifting amounts to far, far less than wage theft by employers. Reddit is full of threads describing bosses demanding crazy uncompensated labor. Theres a good Historia Civilis video about the history of Work, as well.

Really fascinating to learn about how Target's quest to prevent shoplifting evolved into solving major crimes. Never knew that retail chains had such high-tech forensic capabilities.

I do need those labels. Please put them back.

I worked security for most of 2010s. Cops asked for our observations and camera footage all the time.

It's been a few years since I worked assets protection for Target, but yes, we stopped small-time shoplifters as well organized shoplifters. We also followed shoplifters out of the store and put them in handcuffs.

Target wont get you arrested or stop you until you hit 400 dollars worth of theft or what ever it is in your state to charge you with a felony. That NEXT TIME you walk in the store, all cameras are on you, the secret shoppers watch you and you get cought. They have very good facial recognition. Its great that they are doing all of this extra for law enforcement! Im betting its to keep there people well trained for what ever comes next. I may not like shopping there but they do have sone smart people.

hi sam great video love these vids!

Because the big boxes were filled with clues?

Don't give up Ben & Amy. You'll get Sam someday! 😖

There is a kernel of a REALLY good fictional story here.

Many stores are not able to follow you out or physically detain you, but that’s never stopped them.

As a former tween who stole kit-kats to "feel alive," i thank you for making me feel both 'seen' and also wholly generic. :) (technically it was keychains on a mormon youth temple trip not kit-kats but the motivational spirit was the same)

5:19 You would not believe the amount of murder cases and generally bad things that happened in the month of April! I watch a lot of crime shows and more often than not, it happens in April... Which happens to be my birthday month.. 😬

CSI: Crime Scene Investigation had an episode where they asked help from the forensics lab of a Target-like store, and the CSIs was envious of how the store's equipment are much more state-of-the-art than their own

Minor point, HAI is confirmed as immortal.

Now I want an HAI video about candles.

I worked in a grocery store sometime ago and I was specifically forbidden from calling the police, and the store's loss prevention person was very rarely there. I've seen thieves come in and steal hundreds of dollars of meat and laundry detergent and all we can do is watch. It was a Kroger. Do with that info what you will.

What is maldito it's important to remember that shrink also includes products damaged in shipping as well as products that are generally can't be sold for XYZ reason. It's not just theft

The reason shopllifting doesn't affect their bottom line is because they pass the cost onto YOU, the customer. They also don't pay their employees, electricity bill, taxes, rent, so on and so forth. They don't pay for anything. Because if the business starts operating at a loss, they RAISE THE PRICES. They (you) even pay people to figure out which stores and which products they can raise prices in withouth affecting how much money they can get from you. And also, which stores it's not worth it to keep open. YOU pay for crime. There's no free lunch.

@DoomFinger511

3 ай бұрын

So you basically describe every business. The whole point of running a business is to have your customers pay for all expenses plus a percentage to make a profit. Where else would the money come from?

@ThZuao

3 ай бұрын

@@DoomFinger511 Exactly. Not everyone has figured out how money and businesses work. Peole legit excuse crime as "the insurance will pay for it", "They're a big business, they can take the loss" withouth realising that EVERYONE pays for crime. There was even a POLICE CHIEF in an american big city shrugging off rising crime rates as "just a fact of iving in city". The entire world is degenerating into a low trust society because people are too complacent about the cost of crime. I live in Brazil, heed my warning. You WILL NOT WANT to live in a Brazil at a global scale.

@DoomFinger511

3 ай бұрын

@@ThZuao Already in New York many retailers have closed their stores because judges can no longer hold anyone on bail for non-violent misdemeanors. Meaning, even the NYPD knows if they arrest a shoplifter, they will be released hours later so it's not worth their time. As a result, the area not only loses a store to buy products in. but everyone from the local area who was employed there loses their jobs. And there is no such thing as shoplifting insurance, so it always gets passed onto the consumer and occasionally as large fines on the few shoplifters who get caught. Some intelligent small business owners started pricing all items at $1000 so if it was stolen it would be a felony, and would then offer a discount when you paid for it at the register.

Has their forensics team solved the wage theft case yet?

@ChaosBarnaby

3 ай бұрын

For real. All this focus on a tiny problem that affects only the mega rich, and zero focus on how the MUCH larger problem of the mega rich corporations stealing wages from their employees.

they’re legendary in the tech industry too for their incident response and monitoring capabilities. they’re a wild company.

You compared the shrinkage to their total sales instead of their total profits which after overhead are very narrow

As a worker at target, finally some good content

Glad someone is finally giving us key information about the world's most expensive lizards

Target and other store can absolutely and sometimes will grab your ass the moment you hit the door threshold and hold you for police. Walmart, Frys, Albertsons and other large grocers are notorious for this if the store has actual licensed security and not just a LP associate monitoring cameras. Heck I watched a Best Buy LP associate at the front door dam near body slam a guy to the ground because he was refusing to empty stolen the items in his pockets and pushed the LP associate.

In many states, retailers actually are allowed to use force to stop and hold people stealing from them until the police can take them away. It’s variously called “merchant’s privilege” or “shopkeeper’s privilege.” That said, many chains have policies against staff physically apprehending shoplifters.

Amy is just cool.

“It doesn’t meaningfully hurt them” I think the last few years has proven that shoplifting can outright bankrupt a business.

@Corvid-

3 ай бұрын

These guys are leftists. Very buddy buddy with outspoken socialists. So "corporations bad".

@nickwilliams2745

3 ай бұрын

…I’m fairly confident it hasn’t been shoplifting that’s bankrupted businesses these past years. I think you may be forgetting a small global pandemic that f’ed up the worlds economy

The fact that they budget for shrinkage means that in a real sense, you aren't stealing from the big faceless corporation like your buddies on r/shoplifting like to say, it means you are stealing from other shoppers.

@lv1543

3 ай бұрын

Redditors will rationalize shitty behavior at all costs

@hughmungusbungusfungus4618

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. The amount stolen might only be 1.2% of sales, but all the loss prevention infrastructure is guaranteed to be expensive as well. You, as the consumer, pay for all of that in higher prices.

@magesalmanac6424

3 ай бұрын

The obvious solution is to steal from target but not buy from target.

@lv1543

3 ай бұрын

@@magesalmanac6424 im going to shop at walmart and buy nestle products to undo any virtue signaling you are attempting to do

@leafan101

3 ай бұрын

@@magesalmanac6424 Right, because the only thing to think about is yourself.

We had a big cosmetics thief at our store who was also good for 30 prescriptions a month. Because she brought so much money into the pharmacy, Target overlooked the thefts. That is, until CVS bought out the pharmacy division. As soon as we became CVS workers, our cosmetic thief was banned from the store, since Target no longer benefited from her pharmacy purchases and was only causing harm via theft. Andover MN

greetings samuel from youtube channels such as wendover productions, half as interesting, and jet lag the game, to name a few

This video alone has convinced me that I need Half as Interesting Out of Context

They can't force you to open your bag but, at least here, store security are allowed to detain you if they find you shoplifting until police arrive

They could probably provide forensic services for digital devices. Forensic copies and forensic analysis separately. They would have to have data privacy agreements which are acceptable.

Im from Minneapolis and I didnt know about this

Macy's is facing a multimillion dollar lawsuit, because they farmed out their facial recognition system to another store and incorrectly fingered an innocent man for a robbery, despite the man in question being in another state at the time of the robbery. He was arrested and thrown in jail where he was beaten and raped before being released with no charges.

nice one, droll jokes were great

Next up: TESCO Addiction Awareness "Every Little Helps..."

0:20 ok HAI... you need to do a video on candles now... and thats your fault.

Fun fact: the unicorn chair at the being of the video is $70 in target!

"I CANNOT BE KILLED" -person who cannot be killed

What if the murder weapon is a brick?!?

I was in London few weeks ago and went into a store Called Amazon Fresh, I put few items in my basket and went to the register, i only saw what i thought was self service register, nope, No, it was not. You don't scan anything, you can only pay. The store has cameras and AI system that tracks you and knows exactly what you took, The strange thing is even tho there is a price tag on every item in the shelf you don´t get any reseat or anything, you just pay. Cameras can find out who everyone is by face recognition or simply look up your Amazon or Google account, or maybe the AI will hack your phone to see who you are and if you didn't pay for it, the store will track your phone and send the police were ever you are. My point is, there doesn't need to be losses from theft. The system can get you...

Can't wait for the new NCIS-like show based off of Target Investigate Team Services TITS