We need a SC1 Zerg vs SC2 Zerg game so that winter can have the SC1 queens bully the SC2 queens over their inability to fly. MAKE IT HAPPEN

@maksdec7937

Ай бұрын

hehe :з

@sirtalkalotdoolittle

Ай бұрын

Jimmy! Get on this stat!

@LucianDevine

Ай бұрын

The most epic identity crisis he'll ever have!

@aloe7794

Ай бұрын

"Leave me alone for god's sake Susan" "Haha look at the broodlings Brenda"

@Poputrash

Ай бұрын

He'll need different names for the flying ones.... what names for old ladies are older than brenda, karen and susan?

Each one of these games I’ve seen has taught me one basic thing. Brood War balance was basically “well if every unit is stupidly broken then it’ll all balance out.”

@user-ut8gu7lz2j

Ай бұрын

U should have seen reavers fighting hydras and lings

@Appletank8

Ай бұрын

It helps that you can only control 12 broken units at a time, and 1 spellcaster per click. Queens are actually a bit nerfed with broodling doing like 300 dmg instead of ohko.

@user-ut8gu7lz2j

Ай бұрын

@Appletank8 yah, but in 1992 it was on the to game list. It was pretty much a game where dragoons would make you regret your life

@berengerchristy6256

29 күн бұрын

I wonder if the modders can put that 12 units per control groups on the brood war races? It does seem like the brood war players are winning, but all I can see are what winter uploads

@Appletank8

29 күн бұрын

@@berengerchristy6256 nah, BW units have some serious limitations. SC2 has really high mobility that's hard for BW units to catch up in places, and also SC2 has way stronger air units. The hell are Goliaths gonna do against teleporting Battlecruisers? The biggest advantage BW has is their spellcasters are generally really strong, especially the single target ones since they were a massive pain to even utilize in the old game. And also Defilers are busted when you can have like 5 on the field. Constant ranged damage immunity and death clouds.

This game was made exclusively for Winter so the queens' delusions can be fulfilled and his blackout moments are happy instead of angry all the time. Needs to play this map as "BrendasHappyLife" instead of "BrendasRevenge"

For the first time in 26 years a vulture can fight back against a queen Vipers getting hit by old-school terran parasitic bomb

@Brainth1780

Ай бұрын

It's glorious!

Winter you have no idea how nostalgic these games are. The SC1 units and sound effects being dropped into SC2 is fricken incredible. I'll watch every video you post for SC Evo mod

@mirastor1796

28 күн бұрын

I never knew how much I missed the goliath and bunker gun sounds

@nbizzle5329

25 күн бұрын

Completely agree

After YEARs of the " we used to fly" joke, I have finally seen it.

@mattangulo2773

28 күн бұрын

Not to mention the joke with 1HKO with spawn broodlings Man, it would have been awesome to see SC1 infested terrans

9:45 Brenda, you're flying!!!!! It's a Christmas miracle

@AshunPhubu

Ай бұрын

Brenda found the Time Machine

@unnamedlegeon

Ай бұрын

And SC2 has no way to remove Parasite unless it was killed (friendly fire) 😁.

@enriquegarciacota3914

Ай бұрын

@@unnamedlegeonI believe there’s some? Morph into archons and evolve Zerg units? I have not tried the mod yet

@unnamedlegeon

Ай бұрын

@@enriquegarciacota3914 Yes, but most SC2 units can't do it.

Oh my word, they did it. Loving the SC1 Terran theme playing

@AF-tv6uf

Ай бұрын

Flashbacks to college playing SC for hours in my dorm.

Probably been like a milion of such comments but medics have ability to remove parasite

I love the potential for this game mode. A lot of people dislike watching mirror matchups, but not a concern with this game mode!

07:56 when you forget to take your medicines 😂 Jesus. I love the Brenda joke

@LucianDevine

Ай бұрын

He's REALLY gotta get those blackouts checked out though! They're getting worse!

It's funny, Terrans now feel what being sniped feels, but even worse since spawn bloodling insta kill everything unlike ghost snipe

something I just remembered watching game 2. At the beginning of the HotS beta, widow mines were able to attack invisible units even without detection. Looking a little further back, we can see that this was a characteristic of the spider mine.

@Poputrash

Ай бұрын

Indeed! Wanna nuke? Spider mine says no. ("curb your enthusiasm" plays)

@gamesmenezes

Ай бұрын

@@Poputrash And fast expo, spider mine first is a real opening (at least i'v seen in pro level) safe against DT rushes.

I really like the BW Terran vs SC2 Zerg matchup, especially the early midgame, where the Vultures and the Queens have these turf war engagements, with the Spider Mines and the Creep Tumors being great things you'd want to use for map control. A really tasteful interaction that I don't think exists in either game separately.

@jgmepgjlrmxcf2188

Ай бұрын

You could argue at some hots moment, we kinda had this with the 3reaper/4hellion vs the 3/4 queens

What happens if SC1 protoss uses mind control on SC2 player worker? What kind of tech tree does he get?

9:45 I fear for Winters mental health, the visions are becoming more real...

@Werkzeug-100

24 күн бұрын

He almost completely missed the scan LOL

Another way to 'clean' the parasite is using Medics flare ability to blind that unit.

@JKBrown-vv1yw

Ай бұрын

Medics can simply use Restore and purge the parasite completely.

@chloesmith4065

27 күн бұрын

Chaotic neutral

@ChannelMiner

26 күн бұрын

I believe flare has to be researched and is pretty useless unless u somehow snipe all of their detectors then go ghost wraith? Restoration has to be researched as well and is equally useless to be honest considering that the amount of debuffs youd wanna clean are in the single digits and even then a lot of them are applied in big aoes so youd have to have a lot of medics to clear ur army of debuffs.

@sticksbender4057

26 күн бұрын

@@ChannelMiner well, medics are cheap 1 supply units so you will have quite a few of them, and bio Terran in TvZ will always make science vessels and sometimes even battlecruisers. Using restoration to purge plague from those expensive air units is usually worthwhile.

I didn't realise how much those sounds are still so recognisable after so many years. Those tanks are iconic

07:32 you can also solve the Parasite with the Terran Medic restore

Loving this! Jimmy, Winter casting this makes my day. I played BW I was a random player. It's a tip of the cap throwback. Plus I love the new SC2 units. Now I'm going to be spending more hours infront of PC 😂

So glad to see another quick upload of SC Evo. I love these games. I admit I played your videos when preparing to sleep, but yesterday and today's uploads have kept me wide awake out of pure interest. I dont play the game these days, but I'd be willing to give it a go now and maybe corrupt some friends into joining me. I feel like this has breathed life into the game and I cannot wait to see strats that pros will come up with. Cheers to you good ser o/

I absolutely love these videos, made me download the mod and I feel like falling in love with starcraft again It's pretty entertaining and hilarious to see imbalances throughout both games (like Arbiter Stasis taking three purgatory sentences to wear off from SC1 or literal Marines on crack from SC2) affect one another, it's so cool

These are so much fun! Cast more please! You are doing a great job btw, it's very impressive how well you can cast 2 games at once.

More of this! This is amazing

Idk, but the SCBW units felt like they were way more effective than the SC2 units. Like they felt imposing and powerful, and useful. The SC2 units felt expensive and expendable at the same time.

@phamnhat2925

18 күн бұрын

That’s bc SCBW spells were very strong

@Nurriek

18 күн бұрын

@@phamnhat2925 idk. The BW siege tanks felt tougher and more valuable. The marines felt more directly useful and less foddery

That PSA at the end was super helpful.

After all those years of Brenda walking memes. I'm glad I was able to live to see this day. The day that Winter finally gets to use the meme the other way around. As someone born in '92, who played a lot of brood war amongst other games like CS1.6, Dota Frozen Throne, and etc, this is a magnificent day. All who share the same boat, unite!

Maybe some SC1 facts from an old player :) 1. Not all ground units die from Spawn Broodling. Archon's, probe's and river's are safe because they are not alive. 2. In SC1, vulture (20 DMG) will not kill drone (40 HP) in two hits because all zerg immediately regenerate 1HP after taking damage. However, probe(20 HP 20 Shield) dies after 2 shots because the shield begins to regenerate with a delay. 3. You can cure the parasite using the medic from SC1 :) And I'm wondering how they solved the damage types for SC1 units in SC2 because SC1 had completely different mechanics. There were 3 unit types small, medium, large and 3 damage types normal, explosive and concussive.

@OMLose

28 күн бұрын

I wonder too about damage and unit types. I mean hydras are medium, so no full dmg from hellions or tanks in sc2.

the good old doubleT of destruction Tank/Turre

Woah, Jimmy was ready with the like count today! You finally allowing him to have coffee?

@raccoonhatcity7627

Ай бұрын

"coffee" 😅

@WiseWik

Ай бұрын

@@raccoonhatcity7627 coffaine 🤣

I did not expect a Star Trek: Voyager meme. Good shit, thanks for casting!

Also you forgot that the original Medic had an ability call "Restore" which remover any negative status, aka, parasite or blind, etc.

Watching SC1 vs SC2 is so much fun. Thanks for casting these games!

I've been waiting sooooo long to see SC1 units vs SC2 units. I wish someone would do it in SC1 but that would be a lot tougher

I want to tell you a nice life lesson I got from SC2. With my recent run I got to mid plat with T never winning against protoss. But winnig over 90% vs zerg. The lesson is don't let the small defeats stop you. Focus on your strengths and you will get there.

Imagine a peak Flash vs Serral game. Or Jaedong vs Clem!

@chloesmith4065

27 күн бұрын

Boxer vs Maru

PLEASE give us more of this! I'm going to love seeing the meta evolve (ha) over time, and the BW sounds make my heart happy! Granted, I played BW as a 10 year old, so I was SUPER bad, but it's such a nostalgia trip!

Your videos on this brought me back to sc2

Wait this is such a good fucking idea??? Sc1 Terran, sc2 terran, SC1 & SC2 Zerg, and SC1 Protoss & SC2 Protoss all in the race pool

I just realized when Winter turns to the side, he's talking to the queens. I thought he became a queen.

Glorious to see the majestic queens in flight! May they soar forever:)

This is so cool! I love the Broodwar units. Seeing them matchup in SC2 is amazing! I love the broodwar terran and zerg build. Would love to see a sc1 matchup in sc2 and to see you cast some Broodwar too! This is the best thing to happen to Starcraft2 since its release!

Definitely want some more of these! This would be a fun casting phase to have for a week

i love these series mixin’ the old and the new, keep em comin

❤❤ I just love that queens can fly again. Heart warming for old Broodwar veteran which happens to be a SC2 fan also. Such a good content from WinterStarcraft. ❤

I CANNOT WAIT FOR PvP OLD vs NEW. Mirror matches in general are going to be wack.

@chloesmith4065

27 күн бұрын

Reaver > Colossus

This was a joy to watch. I think I'm gonna get back into Starcraft with this releasing. This is amazing. Also Queen+Defiler has to be OP, right?

@kurtzmann22

13 күн бұрын

i doubt that actually, SC2 Terran and other races have good counter spells/splash damage units that could better handle it than SC1 Terran

Dude, the protoss arbiter is completely broken. Stasis freezes an entire fleet of carriers or BCs long enough to build a bunch of turrets underneath them. Also the cloaking. Also the recall. But stasis is a hard counter to massed endgame units, and it lasts so long.

@weaponizedemoticon1131

Ай бұрын

I know Lock Down doesn't have AOE, but that ability is mental vs late game Protoss.

@LucianDevine

Ай бұрын

I want to see some 2v2's with BW Protoss and SC2 Terran on the same side. Arbiters plus new BC's.

@CJ-eq3bs

Ай бұрын

It's not broken. If that's broken the Terran nuke is broken or Terran emp giving 1 unit to take out half army health. Point is they are just a tool to be wary if and should avoid clumping when arb is spotted

@siosilvar

Ай бұрын

SC1 casters are just built different. Though honestly Arbiters don't even see much play in BW PvT any more, you see a whole lot of drops instead.

@michaelbuckers

Ай бұрын

Except you're stuck having to guard a bunch of endgame units while the other part of the army is ransacking your bases.

The ticking/tapping zerg sound effect hits on the first second and I'm immediately transported back to high school.

Love this!!! Great mixup

8:00 Winter roleplaying as a bunch of queens clearly makes him so happy.

this is pretty great to see, loving the SC1 soundtrack too

SC: Evo is such a joy to watch. It breaths new life to the SC 2 scene. It can be really big and hopefully will be ^^

This is so great. Keep them coming. I want some Sc1 P vs sc2 Z

this brings the biggest smile to my face, i remember when my brother introduced me sc1 and he never liked sc2 hopefully now we can start back playing together.

more of this please, this is so freaking cool

I need to get up for work in 5hrs but I've seen Brenda fly in the thumbnail so I'm staying up to find out more about the accident 🤔

This is fantastic! A really cool idea!

This is how zerg was meant to be :D a constant onslaught of units pouring in. isn't like that these days.

These are cool! I hope you cast more.

awesome mod, very fun to watch these games. Do you have to control casters like in SC1, individually?

I can't wait to see pros do this. So far, it looks like the BW is OP if the player is really good, and trash if the player is not as good, compared to the opponent. I want to see two really good players.

@tigera6

Ай бұрын

Afreeca is hosting an event for this mod next Weds, with pro-players from both SC2 and BW playing against each other.

@weaponizedemoticon1131

Ай бұрын

@@tigera6 Super exciting!

@chloesmith4065

27 күн бұрын

Brood war has a better late game because the spellcasters are stronger generally speaking...

Soo excited for these kinds of matches

This is fun! Science vessels, flying queens, dark archons, oh my!

So cinematic with the sheer number of units! Game 1 and game2

Those ultralisk shows why they’re the bane of terrans. The sc2 ultralisk against broodlord Terran makes the ultralisk’s evolution lore awesome. It really shows why they need more firepower.

Finally an extensive course into queen lore. That's why i watch those series!

Yes it is true. Zerg only has 12+1 units. Infested Terran is almost impossible to build. Terran has 13. Protoss has 13+scout.

Loving this content - would be great to see infest command center happen, but making it happen in SC2 is probably even harder than brood war.

BRENDA WE'RE FLYING!!!

35:12 I think you've got it backwards, the BW siege tank does 85 damage in siege mode with +3

This is so much fun. Would love to see this as a possible choice for ranked PvP in game. Although I gotta say I'm not sure of what is going to counter SC2 ultralisks for BW terran...

Dude I love this mod.... I saw someone do an SC1 Terran vs SC2 Terran and the SC1 Terran was SURPRISINGLY strong. I feel like you could just add the SC1 versions of each race to the game as separate factions. That would be awesome imo.

SC2 Players: wondering why the Zerg player is creating so many queens at the same time Broodwar Players: having seen enough games where Terran tries to mass mech against Zerg knowing exactly what's going to happen

The knitting crew has assembled!

That's SO FUN to watch!

This is so cool, it shows how much SC2 could have done with sub factions.

These are great! 👍

Yes! .. more of these games and more brood war 😀

So cool. I wanna see it all. Every game.

was so looking forward to the Queen PTO meetings in this video. Did not dissapoint lol

I always did think the damage output SC2 ultras is severely underestimated. They are always thought of as just damage sponges, but they with +3 they are dealing 44(!) damage per swing at a notably fast attack speed on top of the splash! I’m not surprised they broke the BW Terran siege as I have been having great success with them vs Terran and Zerg opponents in SC2. They absolutely just flatten roaches

SC1 zerg is very powerful. Especially if u go mass zergling hydra. The zerglings are really tough for well zerglings.

Achctually… you can get rid of the queen’s parasite by having a medic cast restoration. Tested it recently. You don’t have to kill the unit. :D

Omg, please, cast some mirror matches between SC1 and SC2!

Little disappointed there were no lurkers, cracklings, ultralisks or defilers shown off, though hopefully it will happen in the future. Loving the new mixed SC1vsSC2 content!

I'm relatively sure the Brood War Queens didn't once target the Thors, which likely means they can't affect massive to protect Thor/Archon/Ultralisk(the expensive ground units). You saw the Terran build and use Thors as an attempt to box out the Queens, or at least punish them with death for any broodling strike.

SUPERNOVA ON WINTER IS CRAZY, TWO OF MY FAV SC2 KZread CHANNEL LOL

I know it will probably never happen, but personally I would love it if Blizzard made an official ladder in SC2 for just the classic BW factions. This way we could play the classic BW factions on the ladder but it'd be in the SC2 engine with all the quality of life improvements like we see in this mod

@markpayton3895

Ай бұрын

Or better yet, a different ladder for this mod to play as SC1 or SC2 races. That'd be so awesome.

This game mode is awesome! More of this please

Bring back the dark archon mind control!!!

This is wildly entertaining

In SC1 you could "cure" the Queen infestation vision spell using the Medic's spell (restoration?, forgot the name)

So nostalgia, and fixing the Queen's nest in the future patch might do 😁.

Best thing about this whole mod is to see Brenda and her besties talking about the old days

i love how queens now sound like 30+ women not old grandmas, thank you winter for throwing in those litte details

This was fun to watch

SC1 models mostly look so much better and sharper than SC2 models -.- Artstyle of the first game was better in general IMO

@AtillaTheFun1337

17 күн бұрын

Well, to be fair, the brood war models were made quite a lot of years after the original SC2 models. While I agree the Goliaths, Carriers and Hydras look awesome, I also do prefer the look of SC2 Firebats and Ultras. The Zerglings and Siegetanks can go either way for me as sidegrades.

07:56 Brenda and the FLTING Knitting crew

this should become an official queue in the game, contact your blizz friends