Rone said “I hate to do this -but I want to pivot to men’s basketball” 😂😂😂

Prime Kawhi is better than both. One of the best two way players ever.

@SmartPsychopat1

Ай бұрын

No he wasn't.

@deontadonald1057

Ай бұрын

Facts

@deontadonald1057

Ай бұрын

Kawhi 19’ playoffs run is legendary stop the cap

@SmartPsychopat1

Ай бұрын

@@deontadonald1057 it's funny how when they are discussing about who the better player was during a long stretch of time,in this case a decade (2010-2019), I always hear for this argument for one of the other side,"in his prime or prime bla bla bla"... Like how is that relevant 😭.. it's a 10 year span in consideration, ain't no fucking way was Kawhi better than LeBron, KD,Steph, Harden, Westbrook & CP3 during that span .. ain't no fucking way.

@SmartPsychopat1

Ай бұрын

@@deontadonald1057" Legendary??" 😭😂😂... Stop playing fam... Infact if we rank the finals MVP winners from best to worse during the 2010-2019 span, kawhi's is the least impressive or at best,the second least impressive behind igaudaola's.

Kawhi slander is crazy

I think there’s sometimes a question between great talent and great basketball player and Gilbert’s comments on harden vs kahwi are a good example of that

Rone tapping into his battle rapper mind with a Toradol/tore it all bar 7:39

@bigjnorm1

Ай бұрын

Lol I went to the comments to see if I was the only one that caught it

The answer is Kawhi. Prime Kawhi was different, best 1v1 defender, scored from anywhere effortlessly, and won.

@phoenixtoolit

Ай бұрын

When he wants to be on the court. That shit matters and I hate when yall act like ts doesn’t matter

@PowGetRekt

Ай бұрын

@@phoenixtoolitThat was only one season lmao. Also still doesn't change the fact that he's better and has won more than Harden and Russ when it matters.

They're funny, they say Kawhi didn't carry his team but the only time Russ and James got to the finals Russ was 2nd option and Harden wasn't even a starter while Kawhi won finals MVP in his 3rd year against the same team that beat OKC and before having one of the best playoff run ever. Harden and westbrook were never able to carry a team to a title as the best player. There's no debate.

Kawhi‼️ Only thing that ever has stopped him is injuries. Cuz on the court it’s clear yall can’t fw him 😂

James Harden clears Russell Westbrook lmao. Harden was the KD warriors toughest competition and took them to 7 games in the WCF with an older CP3 as his co-star. Russ on the other hand had MVP finalist Paul George on his team and lost to a rookie Donovan Mitchell in the first round. Don’t let people fool you, Westbrook was never on Harden’s level.

@greatest599

Ай бұрын

and harden knocked him out of the playoffs twice if im not mistaken

@accordingtodrew7302

Ай бұрын

You mvp finalist Paul George but did you watch that jazz series. Paul George played like garbage. 5 points in an elimination game. The thunder never properly built around Russ the way the rockets did for harden

@abc-lh7tb

Ай бұрын

@@accordingtodrew7302 the only time Russ made it out of the first round without KD is when he became Harden’s sidekick🤣🤣

@PIP...33

Ай бұрын

@@greatest599 HARDEN ?? U MEAN 50 HACK THE ANDRE ROBERSON FOULS WHEN WESTBROOK HAD 50 PTS ?? HARDEN NEVER WON VS WESTBROOK IN HIS LIFE. ANDRE ROBERSON COST OKC HOUSTON WAS SO DESPERATE WHEN RUSS DROP 50 ON HARDEN TO START HACK THE DRE 3 GAMES IN A ROW DUDE MISSED 22 FREE THROWS IN A ROW

@Big_talks.

Ай бұрын

@@accordingtodrew7302yeah but look at pg with kawhi they beat that jazz team with a better Donovan Mitchell lol

Kawhi and it isn’t even a question!

@clad_diamond

Ай бұрын

Kawhi wasnt even superstar until 2016 to 2019 thats 4 years russ and harden was in 2013 to 2019 i got russ because he was better in 2010 to 2012

@getsomemoney2433

Ай бұрын

@@clad_diamond but even in his early spurs years he was playing clamp down defense something Russ and Harden never did. + doesn’t the fact that we saw Russ + Harden together get cooked by Lebron and Dwade, then Kawhi won finals mvp against the same guys, matter

@RampageYI

Ай бұрын

Dpoty

@Sexvibes_relationships

Ай бұрын

Hell no

@GodSon91

Ай бұрын

Exactly

Agree with Gil - Russ was individually a PROBLEMMMMM

@PIP...33

Ай бұрын

PPL SHOULD WATCH RUSS PRIOR BEVERLY HURT HIS KNEE. DUDE WAS FASTEST PLAYER IN HISTORY POSSIBLE BEST VERTICAL IN HISTORY TOO. I THINK FRANCIS ALSO HAVE GREAT VERT. IM NOT TALKING BOUT WING PLAYERS 6'6 OR HIGHER. THESE ARE MORANT FRANCHISE RUSS DROSE BARON GUYS 6'2 AROUND 6'3

@jaybriggs2430

Ай бұрын

2010 to 14 Russ was that guy

@dariusisfamous2840

Ай бұрын

@@jaybriggs24302010-2021 Russ

Lebron Steph Kd Kawhi Harden

@PIP...33

Ай бұрын

STEPH NEVER SAW PLAYOFF. KAWHI HAD 5 HOF ON ROPES WHEN ZAZA SAVED DURANT STEPH IGGY KLAY GREEN ETC.

@GDB.PRODUCTION

Ай бұрын

@@PIP...33 Ok what is this supposed to mean?

@PIP...33

Ай бұрын

@@GDB.PRODUCTION means Curry never seen playoff in career. Westbrook and Harden were able to carry some down teams but whenever Klay or Iggy and Green wasnt in roster like this year Curry missed playoff. For example when Jordan was out Pip carry Bulls almost to finals.

@GDB.PRODUCTION

Ай бұрын

@@PIP...33 👍 I’m not arguing Steph vs harden and Westbrook in 2024

@PIP...33

Ай бұрын

@@GDB.PRODUCTION so where is curry without any of his hof ?? WHEN DURANT LEFT RUSS CARRY TEAM

As a Mav fan, i go Kawhi. Game 6 Kawhi vs the Mavs in a closeout game was one of the best games I’ve seen from any player ever. The peak ability for Kawhi vs the other dudes is just insane.

Kawhi then James Harden, People forget that Kawhi beat Lebron, Curry and Durant on the Finals

@wpdmir2155

Ай бұрын

Harden not over Russ stop the bs

@barkleysmall2363

Ай бұрын

@@wpdmir2155yes he is 😂😂 ur clearly a Westbrook fan

@heigherheights21

Ай бұрын

He was on the Spurs and he was not the best player on the spurs

@kevblaze6318

Ай бұрын

Most impactful ​@@heigherheights21

@micsmitty3168

Ай бұрын

@@heigherheights21 he was the best on the team 🤷🏽‍♂️

This is a great topic !

Gilbert was spot on why Hardens game doesn’t translate in the playoffs. Once a team plays u in a 7 game series they learn ur tendencies way more, and harden offensive game isn’t hard to stop in the playoffs once they’re not giving u those weak foul baiting moves u get in the regular season.

@getsomemoney2433

Ай бұрын

Kobe did a detail episode on Harden in 2019 saying the same thing on why Harden needed to change his game for the playoffs. Dope listen if you haven’t seen it

@micsmitty3168

Ай бұрын

So if that’s the case I’m picking Kahwi he got 2 finals mvps , 2 Dploy

@bluntsensei

Ай бұрын

​@@micsmitty3168Kawhi wasn't the best player on the Spurs till halfway or past halfway through the decade... Those details matter

Westbrook cuz he was MVP, got the best statistical totals, and he was the only player of the decade to have multiple scoring and assist titles while he broke records we deemed impossible. Was also a star player longer than harden in that decade.

@snxggoat2804

Ай бұрын

bro harden has everything u listed

@cantguardhim9927

Ай бұрын

@@snxggoat2804 Westbrook has better statistical totals in the 2010’s while both got a mvp but Russ broke greater records and harden got his 2nd assist title in the 2020’s. Russ got 2 in the 2010’s so Russ was the only player of the decade to get multiple scoring and assist titles.

@heigherheights21

Ай бұрын

That mvp for Westbrook should be Hardens how the f you get mvp as a 6th seed 😂😂😂

@heigherheights21

Ай бұрын

Let's look at what the teams do Westbrook didn't so anything in the playoffs a leader couldn't get out the 1st round.

Kawhi easy call 📞 2 rings 2 finals mvps back2back DPOY and he avg 20 ppg on his second dpoy. Kawhi is just better than Russ on both sides. Harden had a better offensive peak but nowhere near close on the defensive side and Kawhi had better playoff moments.

@heigherheights21

Ай бұрын

Kawhi was on a championship team coming into the league he wasn't even their best player 😂😂😂😂

@getsomemoney2433

Ай бұрын

@@heigherheights21 neither was Russ or Harden what’s your point?

@soolthegreat1581

Ай бұрын

​@@heigherheights21 thank u

@bluntsensei

Ай бұрын

​@@getsomemoney2433Harden was the best player on his teams for more years than Kawhi in the 2010's... Details like that matter Kawhi also had better coaching and supporting cast

@getsomemoney2433

Ай бұрын

@@bluntsensei sure it matters, I just think the rings, back to back dpoys and finals mvps matter more. 🤷🏽‍♂️

Kawhi in 2019 is better than Harden and Westbrook but over the decade i take harden by far

@barkleysmall2363

Ай бұрын

Yea if ur looking at that way but Everyone would choose a healthy Kawhi over harden

@peterkoroma7876

Ай бұрын

@@barkleysmall2363 who is everyone ?

@yahiaali4059

Ай бұрын

@@peterkoroma7876kawhi has 2 dpoys too. Harden i only good from games 1-4 in the playoffs but he folds after that. Kawhi is the opposite he rises to the occasion and he can guard your best player put the clamps on him

kawhi is 7 time all defensive team. Russ and Harden has none. I didnt know basketball is only offensive oriented lol

James Harden worked some miracles, also, I have a great appreciation for the 3 point shot

5:49 Luka doing the same thing looking at the ref vs Boston 😂😂

Regular season harden gets it no question but his playoff performances is what cancels him out, I’m taking Kawhi and only reason it isn’t cp3 is cause of what Gil explained

@snxggoat2804

Ай бұрын

he was the warriors only competion he perforrmed way better than westbrook in playoffs

@imeverywhereeeee5090

Ай бұрын

@@snxggoat2804 I got Harden over Westbrook easily , but Harden lost my respect once I’ve seen him walking up the court in a game 7 because he was mad at cp3 🤦🏽‍♂️, bum

1. Harden 2. Kawhi 3. Cp3 4. Pg13 5. Westbrook

I think their co 4th best . So hard to choose tbh those Houston teams had moments they were best in the league

Harden or Leonard.

Harden was a warriors super team away from winning a chip he’s definitely above Russ

Kawhi won two championships with two separate teams as his team's best player

@bbqnice1

Ай бұрын

Kawhi > KD imo

I dont think that toronto is winning with derozan against the 76ers that year..that shot is exactly what toronto was missing in my opinion.

HARDEN CLEARS DF OUT OF WESTBROOK STOP IT

@djt8870

Ай бұрын

Its really a black eye on the okc thunder organization. They drafted 3 of the 5 best players of the decade and have nothing to show for it.

4 triple double seasons mvp two scoring titles and 3 assist titles is insane I’m going Russ at 4th spot

Remember when this pod was on the up and up? And then Pat threw a ball at that lady.

1) Bron 2) Steph/KD 3) Steph/KD 4) Harden 5) Kawhi

That camera angle is craaazyyyy why is he wearing that? Seriously

1980s Magic | Bird | Kareem 1990s MJ | Hakeem | Malone 2000s Shaq | Duncan | Kobe 2010s LeBron | KD | Steph 2020s Jokic | Giannis | Tatum

@user-hc4yw3te6z

Ай бұрын

2020s I would put Luka in front of Tatum

@dezo6

Ай бұрын

2000s lebron was definitely better than Duncan

@BabyMamaMaker

Ай бұрын

@@dezo6 2 MVP & 2 FMVP. Says otherwise.

@user-hc4yw3te6z

29 күн бұрын

@@dezo6 yea but lebron in 2010s was better than he was 200s

@user-hc4yw3te6z

29 күн бұрын

2000s

James Harden.

Pat tried his hardest not to mention Russ name.

Guys like Wade, Melo, Dwight get negatively affected because their dominance came in two different decades and but not the majority of either decade.

Ofc the two players that never won anything try to downplay Kawhi championships, then hype up Harden and Westbrook that have losing play styles

I’m going with harden because he went to 6 man to mvp + dude went against a super team name gsw with kd

I know James and Westbrook beasted but they also got the ball all the time. They stat padded, Kawhi is a champion, and I would take him over the other two in a heartbeat if he’s healthy.

@greatest599

Ай бұрын

but he hardly ever was and that is an argument against him for 1. Two his peaks were never as high as hardens except for 1 playoff run. every single other year of the 2010's harden was a better player and was available to prove it.

Kawhi needs more respect! The lack of respect is insane, Kawhi was a Top 3 player in his prime

@SmartPsychopat1

Ай бұрын

Not true...

@2waysuperstar390

Ай бұрын

@@SmartPsychopat1 True I meant to say top 3 or top 4 in his prime

@SmartPsychopat1

Ай бұрын

@@2waysuperstar390 Can you list out the span of years in question. Secondly,it's funny how when it comes to this conversation especially on Kawhi against harden, it is the silly peak argument for him.. When we put LeBron,KD & Steph as the top 3 players of the 2010's, we don't hear anything like "in their prime", cos we access their whole body of work as a player during that 10 year span...but it comes to kawhi and it's all of a sudden a prime discussion for a decade discussion... You do realize he missed 353 games in the regular season during 2010-2019 right? Again,ain't no way we are talking about a decade discussion of the 2010's & kawhi comes ahead of LeBron KD Curry Harden CP3 Russ

Harden easily... Kawhi doesn't even make the top 5 list of the 2010's... His unavailability is a big issue.

Chris Paul gotta be in the conversation

I don't consider Luka a PG or SG to me based on size he is a point forward that the Mavs have actually built the team more like the Lakers for him to be the primary ball handler. I would say before Kyrie he was the only playmaker like LeBron in the early cav yrs now he's like LeBron with Kyrie

melo and dwight howard ?

It’s criminal to not say Kawhi. 2 rings in that decade and he was injured half of the decade. Y’all crazy

2011-2020 top players 1. LeBron 2. Curry 3. Durant 4. Harden 5. Wade 6. Leonard 7. Cp3 8. Russ 9. Davis 10. George Dame Greek Embid Melo D. Derozen Lowry Blake griffin Butler

The one with the rings duh

Kobe

It’s harden not even a debate

Kawhi is probably the hardest player to rank all time. Because he was a late bloomer, it took him some years to be the main guy. But he won 2 DPOY and 2 final MVP. But he started to become injury prone. But when he is healthy, he is capable of carrying a team even in the playoffs. His average in the playoffs really goes up. So his career really is an up and down due to injuries and load management. Thats is why its verry tricky to rank him. But if Kawhi is not an injiry prone player and always healthy, I would take him over russ, westbrook, kd, and curry.

I’d go kwahi or dame

James harden but kawhi had more success

1. Lebron 2. Steph 3. KD 4. Harden

Kawhi is definitely at least top 4 in the 2010's

Easy kawhi stay toronto would've beat the brakes off that hickey mouse lakers

I'd put Kawhi over KD. Yall buggin.

It’s Russ or harden

No giannis?

Kawhi was injured around that time 2 so he not in there

Kawhi

We just going to ignore Giannis antetokounmpo

Definitely Kawhi lol.

Pg n kawhi

Kawhi not a option???

Kawhi is better at basketball then harden how is this a convo

kawhi or russ

The answer is James Harden! End of story

Kobe is in the top 3 that's not a debate

Kawhi better than steph and KD

@AliAhmedhussein-gd8ns

Ай бұрын

Hell no 😂

@estalineking

Ай бұрын

Stick to swimming. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@prakharsharma9956

Ай бұрын

Talk that talk 🔥🔥

1:59 that’s cap. No one cares cause they got bounced in the playoffs

Kahwi literally limped thru the finals.. he knew he was that good and had guys like siakam,vanvleet,norman powell,serge ibaka,Danny green,kyle lowry,literally had chris boucher, og anunoby not play....... and yeah og been og that's why masai ain't wanna give him up shotout knicks they did a proper deal iq rj. But og been a lockup defender.. if og healthy he would've been 3x dpoy already toronto and new york know his value

@nvabor3d360

Ай бұрын

3x dpoy man stop it put the pipe down what a ludicrous take

You ninjas just glazing other ninjas and find an excuse for everyfknthing

KAWHI STOP GIANNIS- DEROZAN WILL LET GIANNIS SCORE 50 PT!

Russ ewtf

I'd say Steph was the best player then lebron. Steph won just as much in less time. Steph was much easier to build around and stephs shooting was the more reliable weapon out of the 2. If you took both Bron and Steph, then built a team around them, Stephs team will win more games and more chips. Steph Bron Kawhi KD has had 4 teams with multiple all stars and only won with GS and that was largely due to Steph and klays credit not even KDs. KD couldn't do it before GS and after GS when everyone thought "KD has championship experience and will win it now", he goes on to get swept and lose constantly 🤦🏻‍♂️

Gimme Russ

@lotuslife3239

Ай бұрын

Fr fr

Kawhi is better

WADE

Lbj wasn’t the best player in the 2010’s tho. Its between RUSSELL WESTBROOK (stat wise) or STEPH CURRY! Tf? U cant name a 4 year stretch lbj was ever the best player in the league bro! Yall need to to stop the meat sucking at this point!

I thinks Westbrook by a mile

@StayTru101

Ай бұрын

You’re obviously biased

Harden and wb may have had bettet individual success but at their peaks kawhi is better than both of them guys and i dont think itd particularly close.

d wade ?

Giannis

Kawhi‼️ Only thing that ever has stopped him is injuries. Cuz on the court it’s clear yall can’t fw him 😂