I want to see "Who's the best Stax commander in cEDH?" just because a 12 hour unedited video sounds fun

@Kallastin

3 жыл бұрын

That would make me so happy lmao

@Macwood94

3 жыл бұрын

You my friends are special types of monsters.

@609minemine

3 жыл бұрын

I’m down. Stax is my favorite deck archetype. The energy of frustration that comes off of people when you play stax is addicting in and of itself.. it’s like a drug lol.

@PhillyXeno

3 жыл бұрын

If enough people ask they might do it :^) peer pressure OP

@cassiemay2397

3 жыл бұрын

I honestly don't think it would play out the way you think it would, stax decks are built to obtain parody on stax effects that hit everyone so they likely all play similar builds and similar work arounds, things that untap or make it where you can't be forced to sac all those types of things, so it may be less stax effected than any game with only 1 stax player

"I'm free!" the only valid response when dying to stax

@LoboGuarah

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, it is also the answer to when playing stax and the win con doesn't come. XD

@AnomAnomMTG

3 жыл бұрын

I call myself a punching bag if I become a free target, due to manascrew, early targeting, or stax

Playing stax without a way to immediately end the game, is just about the most painful thing to play against.

@enoeht

3 жыл бұрын

I have no idea what you're talking about. Playing stax and winning by attacking with hatebears souped up by Elesh Norn is the epitome of fair, clean Magic.

@tylerhiginbotham8177

3 жыл бұрын

I play stax because the salt of the tears of my enemies are particularly delightful. Their misery sustains me.

@filipefranca5866

2 жыл бұрын

@@tylerhiginbotham8177 LOL

The Winds of Rebuke wouldn't have resolved and milled everyone. Eternal Scourge self-exiles when targeted. Could have been relevant.

@jakerzish

3 жыл бұрын

It was literally relevant next turn, there would have been 3 cards in the grave when smothering tithe was cast and it couldn't have been countered by Drown in the loch.

"We ALL kept shitty hands."- My play group. Every game. Great vid my Bois!

As a storm player in modern and kess in edh the ending pleases me.

Reminds me of a 1v1 I had with a friend, where he kept a 1 land hand, because he had a T2 Rhystic, and thought he'd be able to draw a bunch of cards... I ALSO kept a 1 land hand... because I had a Land Tax, and thought I'd be getting value... We're casual players, but that was the SLOWEST 1v1 I've ever played!

The spinning top was so fitting lol

@GamerdevilPro

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was great :D

I love it!! Truuu stax.. Cam what's your win con?? You're looking at it XD beat em down.... Eventually

This was the first time I’ve seen Stasis in play. I never really understood why derevi had such a high salt score on EDHREC until now. Absolutely brutal. Still loved the game though!

I was really rooting for derevi to win with staxy creatures.

Eternal scourge exiles on target and therefore fizzles Winds of Rebuke

Oh man another amazing game. Been waiting for a new game from you guys. Love it so much!!! You guys clearly love Magic and always have a laugh when playing

Derevi Stax makes my heart sing.

The spinning top

This is genuinely my favorite channel on KZread.

Fantastic game guys, as always love the commentary!

ah yes elvish evolution

Listen, I'm gonna level with you guys... I fuckin' love you guys. I love chilling after a long day at work to your gameplays! Please keep up the good work!

Nice video, I really like it ! What's your opinion of Sea Gate Stormcaller inclusion in the Inalla deck ?

This channel is the first cEDH channel I’ll be subscribing to. Love that you guys play lists similar to the cEDH primers. :) What do you use for your dual land proxies? Are they just printed out pieces of paper, or did you get proxies made? And a quick follow-up, about how many cards do you guys proxy for these vids?

@PlaytoWinMTG

3 жыл бұрын

We print out a LOT of proxies

The vigilance on faeburrow elder is very relevant! You can use Derevi's trigger to tap other players' lands and still use it for mana post combat

Your work as a channel is great, congratulations!!! I'm not a patreon, but who knows, some time!!! 😆

That was cool maybe one of the longest cedh games I’ve ever seen

I felt so torn because I have three of these decks built so I didn’t know who to root for 😂

You guys should do who is the best stax commander in cEDH. It would be hell.

I believe in Ukkima. One day it will show off how awesome it is. Good vid guys.

Why does no one counter the goddam underworld breach

@GamerdevilPro

3 жыл бұрын

Why would they? It's a perfectly fair and balanced magic card with no broken interactions at all (:

This game was a SLOG, but super satisfying to watch! Great vid as always!

The other day just built a Derevi stax deck, damn is it addictive to play! xD

Was wondering why devoted stax rather than a midrange deck with an Emiel Cradle combo or some other combo? From experience, it feels like that's the bigger direction it's been taking.

Right on time!

My personal favorite cEDH commander, that happens to be 3 colors, is Tasigur

@averyclark866

3 жыл бұрын

Best 3c commander for sure :)

@quinnhait3475

3 жыл бұрын

People who enjoy playing tasigur scare me

@timdbowery6304

3 жыл бұрын

Tasigur is not a cedh commander anymore and hasnt been for awhile. Way too slow and not strong enough of a creature

@averyclark866

3 жыл бұрын

Tim D Bowery I mean I feel like if a deck is on the database, the deck is probably good enough lol

@pro711200

3 жыл бұрын

@@averyclark866 it's not unviable. It's just strictly worse than tymna thrasios and if you want to be on it you're better off playing tymna thrasios.

Got my shirt and I rep it everytime I play magic with the boys!

Hey guys just wondering site you use for your proxy's?

@horribleville

3 жыл бұрын

I use mpcautofill.com to automatically get the images and make a mpc (make playing cards) order.

2:15 the Edler does have Vigilance but I'm pretty sure he tapped it to cast the Archon that got countered so Vigilance doesn't do anything right there...

I think its interesting how the competitive mindset sometimes blocks some logical casual plays that would result in more chances of winning. Having 2 life and a flying commander that can be flshed any time would be a great risk for any casual player, so the logical conclusion would be to play Ukkima to try to grind some life. But it never happened.

Aminatou is my favourite :P even though shes not even close to the best esper commander for cedh i just love her art and combo lines

Could you guys come up with some themed najeela tokens?!?

@KoiPondDreams

3 жыл бұрын

I would also like this!! Najeela makes my pp feel funny.

@seriously_leo9177

3 жыл бұрын

Jeff M Honestly same I just won 5/8 games with her feeling sooo good

@KoiPondDreams

3 жыл бұрын

@@seriously_leo9177 it's so satisfying to play with her. She is a wincon on her own. It's insane. I snagged a foil copy of nature's will off tcgplayer yesterday. Alarmingly low amount of foils there. Snag it while you can ;)

@seriously_leo9177

3 жыл бұрын

Jeff M Shes super crazy and my pod tried complaining but I was like lmao I just won through combat figure it out

I was really looking forward to hearing what Cam had to say when he says, "I learned something very important about stax. It's hard as shit..." and then then video cuts out before he finishes! What was it!?

Turn 2 derevi - untap noble / attack for 1 / use trigger to untap noble / tap noble to cast fyndhorn elves?

Nice one. But also be great to see an overlay.

B E G I N

Couldn’t he respond to flusterstorm with his own flusterstorm? Or he could recast grapshot?

Nice proxy volcanic island

I now realize that the two commanders plus the deck in a fan-whirly way look like at sad face.

Hey guys, just so you know Pongo has a new "birdwizard" list ever since Emiel came out, www.moxfield.com/decks/Dj12VRnJjkqd-kF-mhSY1w , being able to tap everyone else's board on their upkeep and have yours untapped is dope, who knew? :)

Shouldnt Ukkima play alluren as well? its a second food chain with a sac outlet

are you guys gonna let viewers play with yall eventually?

Why pay 1 for Signet on Turn 13 (min 11:43)? Shouldn't Cloud Key and Helm of Awakening reduce it to 0?

@bradenskaggs5350

2 жыл бұрын

Cameron had a Grand Arbiter out which caused all of his opponent's spells to cost 1 additional mana so the signet costed 1 mana.

Pako and Haldan is a solid Cedh deck

Oh! Oh! Do a who’s the best banned commander

When I play stax opponents see no hope and scoop, because I'm good at stax :P. Real talk though. Do you ever feel like rushing as a courtesy to your opponents because you're so far ahead and have an embarrassment of riches and thus open yourself up to errors? Happens to me all the time cuz I'm so good at stax lol

Stax isn’t just for the game, it’s for life!

@tylerhiginbotham8177

3 жыл бұрын

Yasssssss

You missed paying the extra for grand arbiter all game haha.

3 missed rhystic triggers before notion hit board. Think Cam forgot that rhystic triggers on all spells and not only non creature.

Dont they have to pay 1 more for the arbiter?

Sylvan Library is not a may trigger. The Notion Thief steals the 2 additional draws and you have to pay 4 to even draw 1 card

@PlaytoWinMTG

3 жыл бұрын

Are you sure

@Cloudpiroth01

3 жыл бұрын

**Correction** And this is why we read the cards... I am wrong

God I love Elsha. She can win real fast. But is resilient as hell.

I don't think people were paying for the GAAIV additional cost.

8:28 didnt those two just come into play that turn?

Why instead of discarding Swords to Plowshares and trying to destroy Stasis with REB, you didn’t just cast Swords on Faeburrow Elder? It was the guy with vigilance that let Cam untap a land each turn and pay for Stasis. If it resolved, Cam will have to eventually sac Stasis (skipping his untap step for that turn, so better than with REB). If Cam countered it with Mana Drain, you’ll still have REB in hand as a back plan.

Figured grand arbiter would put in work

@mraidandm

3 жыл бұрын

It was almost like he wasn’t there

Soooo am i the only one that saw that very not real timetwister hit the table?

@Sketchyyo

3 жыл бұрын

Looks just like my timetwister.

@tylerhiginbotham8177

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sketchyyo looks like the one from magic online. Wasnt original frame or artwork. I have two, one beta, one unlimited. The art they showed blown up on screen was correct, but the actual card that was placed on the table hat mtgo artwork and frame. So theres no way its legit. Which doesnt necessarilly bother me. I suppose no one on the channel has claimed to or not to use proxies. But theres an awful lot of black bordered alfa/beta cards in these videos and seeing that bunk timetwister gets me thinking.

@cassiemay2397

3 жыл бұрын

The guys have said openly that they use proxies, in one of the 3 player games at the beginning of covid Dylan talks about ordering a new printer so he can print all the proxies he wants

@tylerhiginbotham8177

3 жыл бұрын

@@cassiemay2397 ooohhhhh i did not realize that. My bad then my dudes. Im still watching either way, just to be clear. Good stuff.

3:17 Winds of rebuke shouldn't have mill because it gets countered since scourge gets exile as soon it gets targeted

@angelescartin6093

3 жыл бұрын

Love your content, keep doing it :*

Also looks like everybody is ignoring Augustin IV stax, no one pays after 13:10. Cameron stax them!

I see Elsha, I upvote

No Brallin/Shabraaz? :(

Just started, I'ma say elsha

What happened to the guy who used to be the top right player?

@puddleduck745

3 жыл бұрын

Brandon?

What the music they use

@PlaytoWinMTG

3 жыл бұрын

Epidemic sound

@zacharyjacobs2667

3 жыл бұрын

@@PlaytoWinMTG thank you so much

y'all missed a lot of grand arbiter

Ok, please correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t the top still cost a mana because of Grand Arbiter?

@mrzhou7685

3 жыл бұрын

He had both cloudstone key and helm of Awakening, so it's still free

Best 3 color commander is xyris wheels

11:35 just gotta commit and call it cloudstone keyrio lol

Y’all should just say if you miss mana crypt you lose the flip

Lol! Cameron accidentally pronounced Fyndhorn Elves CORRECTLY... and then corrected himself, and went back to "Flint horn Elves." Hahaha... So close.

@TheHive616

2 жыл бұрын

4:46

best 3 color commander is Phelddagrif

I will be the first to comment one day!!!!!!

Wouldnt elish have killed a few creatures esp gilded drake

@NojaboyTalent

3 жыл бұрын

Its -2/-2 gilded drake is a 3/3

@unimaginative_artist

3 жыл бұрын

nojaboy talent right 👍🏼

Did Cameron even have a win con? Seriously lol

Can I draw a card?

Jesus Christ, man!

Elsha is the best cEDH commander hands down. It's also the best 3 color cEDH commander. I have a list that is designed to win on turn 2 around 65% of the time. If you don't win turn 2 then you will inevitably win turn 3 or 4. You will never get past turn 4. You are basically guaranteed a win by turn 4.

@tylerhiginbotham8177

3 жыл бұрын

I play against elsha on the regular. If anyone is winning on turn 2 then the rest of the table is fucking up hard. That or the elsha player is a punk of a pubstomper.

These decks are ass...each one is a blue deck with a splash of the other colors