It seems Glenn's caused a rift in the fans. I personally hated how Carl's was just like any small side character.

Glenn's death was written in stone Carls death ruined the writing

At the times they happened, Glenn's was more impactful than Carl's. But, Carl's absence in the show became more impactful after Rick left the show. I liked 9, 10, and 11, but still having Carl in Rick's absence would have made the show carry on better.

Glenn’s death killed the show in the short term but there was still potential for the show to recover. However when Carl die it killed the long term future of the show because it has been obvious since season 4 that he was being set up as the replacement main protagonist after Rick, not to mention after the war with the saviours the comics had a perspective shift from Rick to Carl as the main character.

I voted for Glenn but I agree that Glenn’s death effected the audience more, while Carl’s effected the show more. Was devastated for both but would’ve never made me stop watching the show. Definitely added shock value. Love the polls…keep em coming! Would love to see one asking who read the comics vs not. Great video James!!

@TWDExplained

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@brookebailey7240

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@@TWDExplained Yay thanks James…you’re the best!!!

And my opinion, I feel like Carl’s death ruin The Walking Dead because he was the future of the show even Andrew Lincoln left the show mainly because of Carl’s death because Carl was the thing that kept him going without Carl. Rick Grimes didn’t really have a purpose anymore with the exception of Judith but still Carl what is the symbol of reeks old life before the apocalypse, but if Carl had to die I would’ve had him die protecting his sister that would’ve gave his death more meaning, and made more sense for his character to die. And to pass on the hat to her.

@TWDExplained

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yeah protecting Judith would have been a good way

Just because the actor wanted his comics death himself, i'm almost sure i saw a interview in which Glenn said he's fine with his death, but Carl should've never died, he represented the future, he could've made TWD post Rick better, would've made the whisperers arc better and i could see him getting a spin off show after the main show ended.

Carl

Glenns definitely impacted the show more in terms of fans leaving afterwards. But at least his death seemed meaningful to the story and gave birth to more storylines. Carl's death just felt poorly done and almost an insult to the character and actor.

I think the point that Chandler out aged the character and that's why he had to die kinda sucks. there's so many plot holes and continuity problems in the show, what's one more you know

Two awesome characters and both had such impactful deaths in different ways, I think the sheer brutality in which Glenn went out shocked the average viewer especially (those who don’t know the graphic novels) great video 😀👍

@TWDExplained

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agree the graphic nature alone turned some people off

I really didn't like the way they did Carl man, like I'm still pretty twisted about it. Then to have the guy Carl died for be the one that let the Whispers infiltration and then die anyway... Come on!

@RealSB

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For the timeliness argument, they did a huge time jump after Rick and the bridge explosion. When you said we had Old Man Carl in our mind that really nailed it for me. Carl wouldn't have hid being bit either, knowing how much of a risk that would have been to everyone else. I could complain for days .😂

Carl hands down.

Well, see, here’s the thing. Because I read the comics, I feel like I have a differing opinion about the show from most others. The way I looked at it, Glenn (much as I loved him as a character) I always knew he was going to die. They hinted at it SO many times in the show. Glenn’s death, even in the comics, is such a pivotal moment to the maturation in Maggie’s story arc. So unless the show was going to drastically differ from its source material, that death was inevitable. Similar to Shane with Ricks character or Dale with Andrea’s. In terms of which death was more meaningful? I’d say Glenn because it symbolized so much for so many and set the events for an entire war in motion where as Carl’s death was just used as a crutch of a reason as to why Negan wasn’t killed. Carl’s death was more of a blow, though. To me, it will always represent the beginning of a dizzying spiral that sent not only the story they were trying to tell but the series as a whole into a panic. One thing we can all universally agree on. Glenn and Carl, 2 of the shows most impactful characters during their final moments. Both had deaths that didn’t need to happen. Daryl didn’t need to satisfy his blood lust by going after Dwight which got them captured in the first place, setting in motion an unfortunate set of events that culminated in a traumatic night in the woods they would never be able live down. Carl, suddenly transitioning from a Shane-like mentality trying to fearlessly (and even at times singlehandedly) take down Negan all throughout S7 to a Morgan/Eastman like mentality in S8 that would even seem to throw his own father for a loop. That same mentality that led to him getting bit for a character that wouldn’t do much for the story in his own right. Both were unnecessary and regrettable, but both have helped mold the still standing survivors into the characters we’ve come to love today.

@TWDExplained

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agree - unforeseen consequences causing a chain reaction of unintended events - every decision we make in life ripples

@beezzus86

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@@TWDExplained There is something with Carl’s death though and it’s through something you’ve mentioned. Carl’s age and the actors growth did not align and that was a presenting problem for the show runners. Through all of the time jumps they ended up doing. Through all of the remixes to the story, characters jumping ship to spin-offs and such. Couldn’t they have worked their way around whatever was wrong? Normally on the show if an actor has something going on, they’d just give their character a backseat or find a reason for them to go missing until the issue is/can be solved. It just doesn’t seem like a good reason to just kill Carl off. It had to be something more personal going on because if that’s the case Rick should be dead. Daryl, Carol, Michonne, Heath(who knows), Judith, Jerry. That list can go on and on as well lol

@TWDExplained

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@@beezzus86 yep - because of the time skip right after Rick died - Car's age would have lined up better. I do wonder how Carl would have fit in the future story with Rick missing and Daryl looking for all the time.

Glenn because it still fuel the storyline. Carl long gone now. And never bought into this "it was supposed to end with Carl" nonsense. The show is the show. And on overall deaths, I always expected major deaths as these were characters trying to survive in the post apocalyptic world. My thoughts during season 1 was if the show went anywhere, which it did, that most of the season 1 cast would be gone, which happened. The different showrunners have always said over the years "nobody is safe." Thanks for rhe mention by the way.

I love the actor that played Bob Introducing Bob just to take Dale's comic death Was fucked up

@carolinecraft2713

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Wow! I hadn’t heard about that one. It’s shame he was on show for such a small time.

I don't think they should have spared Negan, period. Not sure why Carl had to be sacrificed for that

Tough call because both deaths affected the show and the fan base. I'll say Glenn.

Great video James! I'm one who never read the comics, so i had no particular expectations. To me, Glenn was more impactful. It was so extremely brutal...very upsetting....it stayed with me for a very long time... I never would have guessed at that time that I would end up liking Negan. (but I've got that soft spot for JDM) 😊

@TWDExplained

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Yep I totally see why Glenn came out the winner - both were very sad

I don't like the idea that Carl aged out of his character cuz shortly after he died they did a 6 year time jump just so they could age up Judith...Glenn's death was more impactful on a personal level but Carls death impacted the story/plot on a HUGE level. So i can deal with Glenn dying but def not Carl. Great video topic!

@TWDExplained

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yeah that time jump would have caught up with Carl's age

Even though Chandler was growing up, they could of still made it work.

I am not sure how Carl survived getting shot. I thought he was gone then. Would have been more meaningful than how they actually did his situation. Glen's death was known but still impactful how they did it. Abraham was unexpected.

Abraham dies in the comic too. They just rearranged his death on the show so they could save it for Denise ... which was a little more impactful on the audience, in my opinion.

@dereksouthers973

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Carl's death was a bummer, however I knew from the comics about Glenn's.

I didn't really care when Glenn died. He was a great character, but he wasn't in my top 5. When Carl died, I actually cried

Glen's. Carls death was stupid

As heartbreaking as Glenn's death was at least it wasn't out of left field. Carl's death was so much more heartbreaking and unnecessary. Really hate how that went down. It achieved nothing

I feel that Carl impacted the universe in a whole more Carl should’ve lived but that lead Morgan to leave to Fear witch that ruined Fear TWD witch lead to Nick dying and pushing the main fear TWD characters to the side then it changed Rick’s character for me i absolutely hate he’s character since season 8 like i didn’t like Rick since leaving the prison but he was an ok character but it ruined he’s character for me

It doesn’t surprise me that Glenn got most votes. Even though I have not know about this show very long it doesn’t take much to realize how much of impact Glenn death had on people. I think killing two people at Negan’s line was over kill. I don’t think we needed both especially since it was so brutal. It was a lot to take! I think Carl’s death effected me more because I knew he lived & had family with Sophia in comic and Glenn was suppose die by Negan. If I didn’t know that I may have thought differently but I did. I had hard time with Heusal’s death too even though that is how he died in comic. I just really missed his humor & demeanor. That could of been from Scott Wilson’’s performance. I think Glenn, Carl & Heursal were hardest for me. I always wonder if I would be as obsessed with this show as much if Daryl’s character was not created or killed & Carol was not givin chance to continue since they are my favs. Hmmmm???

@TWDExplained

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Yeah it's hard to try and think how we would feel about the show if a character was missing, died earlier, etc. In the comic instead of Daryl, Rick's right hand was Tyreese - even though they had their differences and fought in the comic also. Abe took that role after Tyreese died.

@carolinecraft2713

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Wow! That’s interesting! So did you miss that part of comic or were you ok with what they did in show? I connected more to Tyrese than I did Abe. I had hard time understanding Abe most of time and way he broke up with Rosita really pissed me off. But I don’t think he deserved to die way he did in show.

@TWDExplained

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@@carolinecraft2713 not sure what you mean by missed that part - The main thing I did not like about Abe's death in show is that it was overshadowed by Glenn's. but Abe also broke up with Rosita like that in the comic (and I agree it was harsh!)

@carolinecraft2713

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Wow! Well I guess it does fit Abe’s character. I guess what I meant was would you have preferred Tyrese & Abe to be Rick’s right hand men in show in stead of Daryl?

@TWDExplained

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Ahh - I liked both - the comic being one universe and the show another. I do like Daryl tremendously though. I will say the one thing I did like about Abe's death in the show - was that he straightens up and stuck his head out to Negan like - take me f'kr! I get kinda teary eyed thinking about it - "I will take this death for the team" he said without saying anything. This is even before Negan started choosing. What a hero.

Shoot i had to pause the show n walk outside for some air over Glen... Thats was crazy af....carls death just sucked....i think the worst death was Beth...she was the last bit of innocence left in the world...

@TWDExplained

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ahhh Beth - me miss her also

@vaderjones357

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@@TWDExplained I know two grown ass men who got real choked up when it happened...speechless n trying not to cry

@carolinecraft2713

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@vaderjones357 @twdexplained And that says a lot about writing and why we love this show so much!!

🤔😲🤔 BOTH!!

A gal called Bri at the disco shut her channle down after Carl died. I know I was fired up also. No doubt Abe's death p'd me off too.

@TWDExplained

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the show has really affected lots of folks!

Really good question but i would say glenn. Out of my family and friends who stopped watching it people stopped as soon as glenn died. When carl died and rick left the heart and soul of the soul left.

glenn's death was more impactful but Carls killed the show

Hey James nice vid You excited for the boys finale next week?

@TWDExplained

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I am - what a crazy daisy show - just when you think "they can't top that crazy scene" - they do, and again, and again!

@ZenithAfeyleon

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@@TWDExplained gave a whole new meaning to "mother's milk"🍼🧸

100% Glen.

Carl was super annoying. Killing him off was a good riddance. Too bad we got annoying Henry back for it...

@Matsuzinhu

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stop cooking

@cineqrimes

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stupid take.

@cineqrimes

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get out of the kitchen.

I’m sorry but Glenn is so overrated as a character. I tried so hard to care for him but really I didn’t have any interest in him past season 5