Scientists in Kanto really created life out of computer code and were disappointed that it couldnt go to space.

@lks19

3 жыл бұрын

Deoxys wants to have a word with you.

@frozezone2947

3 жыл бұрын

@@lks19 Deoxy is already an alien from outer space

@lks19

3 жыл бұрын

yeah I know. I was just joking about a theory I saw about the fact Porygon 2 once went into space and it deformed into Deoxys lol

@frozezone2947

3 жыл бұрын

@@lks19 hmmm

@ericgabrielalvesdecarvalho3496

3 жыл бұрын

Literaly when someone gets disapointed for creating life instead of "Lets find some rocks" they must be many advanced

Porygon: A revolutionary piece of sentient coding Porygon 2: C U R V E S

@AxxLAfriku

3 жыл бұрын

NO! NO! NO! Many people say I am sick in the head. NOOOO!!!! I don't believe them. But there are so many people commenting this stuff on my videos, that I have 1% doubt. So I have to ask you right now: Do you think I am sick in the head? Thanks for helping, my dear met

@sebastianb4357

3 жыл бұрын

What a wild reply that channels crazy

@justinchannel128

3 жыл бұрын

@@AxxLAfriku bruh we’re talking about porygon

@AlternativeShae

3 жыл бұрын

when the polygon is *_C U R V E_*

@grant9637

3 жыл бұрын

@@AxxLAfriku stop

I honestly think lockstin has thought about this more than the pokemon company

@Z4KIUS

3 жыл бұрын

there are some theories that must make them be like "see this? this is genius! note that down!" and few games later BOOM

@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583

3 жыл бұрын

Well the game straight up tells you who created it's last evolution. You find the device to evolve it when going to that evil tesla HQ. And the world jump stuff remember that evil elon musk wanted to jump worlds to find his perfect world

@NitroIndigo

3 жыл бұрын

He certainly thought about Porygon-Z more than OLM did.

@gregorymirabella1423

3 жыл бұрын

@@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583 1, *its, and 2, was this an attempt at a joke?

@themachoechidnaugandarandy7583

3 жыл бұрын

@@gregorymirabella1423easy there mein fuhrer.

It was a missed opportunity by Gamefreak to give Porygon-Z a Z-move

@hermiticalweaver8413

3 жыл бұрын

^^^

@CoolMintMC

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao, yeah. They probably didn't because I don't even think the Porygon line was in Alola, but also because it would've been annoying to have to evolve Porygon→Porygon2→Porygon-Z both needing to be traded with specific items. It just would be too convoluted for a Pokémon that they weren't putting a spotlight on like new Alola Pokémon or mascots.

@pablojams5152

3 жыл бұрын

Alolan Porygon, made from materials gathered on the beach. That would’ve been cool

@p3dr0_o7

3 жыл бұрын

I would've loved the move name to be like "Dubious Distortion"

@emmamorris6577

3 жыл бұрын

Z-Conversion kinda did this, definitely made the mon very cool that gen

The Dubious Disc is just Cyrus's hard drive of naughty "homework". No wonder PoryZ freaks out when it has to use it...

@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions

3 жыл бұрын

If I were to guess what Cyrus's fetish is I'd say It would be Mind Break, considering him wanting to remove emotions and all~

@conradcooper2710

3 жыл бұрын

@@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions excellent theory!

@volcanhacks

3 жыл бұрын

@@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions oh lord

@volcanhacks

3 жыл бұрын

@@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions does that mean team flares is "Hole creation BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY"

@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions

3 жыл бұрын

@@volcanhacks If I were to be a bit serious about it... I'd say Lysander would probably be into some wholesome vanilla considering his end goal is eternal beauty~ The rest of Team Flare on the other hand? Probably selfsest or at the very least filthy rich buff men/thicc women because their ego is bigger then every other evil teams combined~

In Pokémon Platinum in Veilstone city there is a man with a Porygon who says he found it near Team Galactic Headquarters and took it in and gives it to you. I think the dubious disc was created by Team Galactic probably with the help of that Scientist to creat Porygon-Z in order to access Dialga and Palkias dimensions

@archiiebarrett

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with this. I don't think he was created to save Cyrus, I think Cyrus instituted the creation of Porygon Z to chase the legendaries, and the Porygon they had was stolen.

@Muriuki34

3 жыл бұрын

Even truer due to the fact taht well. You can get a Porygon Z BEFORE the end of the Team Galactic's arc in Platinum. So the timeline doesn't check, really.

@necrozma4029

3 жыл бұрын

What about Porygon and Porygon2 in the Kanto and Johto regions tho? Not defying your theory, but just asking that if you have an explanation for this.

@jasonmarholz2427

3 жыл бұрын

Well Porygon and Porygon 2 just like he said in the video were designed to go into space and explore it but they didn’t meet the standards for it so when Team Galactic got their hands on it and Porygons research they thought they could create a new version which could go into different dimensions but they failed as well.

@necrozma4029

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonmarholz2427 mmm right

Someone on Reddit suggested it was made by Aether Foundation, considering the Polygon line _has_ signature moves about changing types, Gladion randomly has one, and dimensions is *also* Aether's specialty.

@unitds27-delta

3 жыл бұрын

You mean Porygon line, or Silvally line?

@milk_choc7889

3 жыл бұрын

@@unitds27-delta the Porygon line.

@rodneybrown3059

7 ай бұрын

​@@unitds27-delta Tri Attack

The person who created porygon z: what if, hear me, put porygon in the shape of a z

@kevinmooney9361

3 жыл бұрын

*laughs* so az not only did the ultimate weapon but a modern pokemon's third evo? Is that what you're saying?

@shockanova

3 жыл бұрын

@@kevinmooney9361 no, why the hell would they be saying that it makes no sense

@eldonm2770

3 жыл бұрын

@@kevinmooney9361 The letter Z. Not Az.

@benedict0902

3 жыл бұрын

My Gyarados destroyed you and the rest of Steven's team

@sorbet_shark7332

3 жыл бұрын

@@kevinmooney9361 lmao yea

for some reason I didn't realize Porygon was a duck until recently

@Argent_Void

3 жыл бұрын

Don't worry, me neither.

@robbieclayton4672

3 жыл бұрын

I thought it was a joke that it was a duck

@milkman6745

3 жыл бұрын

wait Porygon's a duck?

@hiddensquid7048

3 жыл бұрын

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439

3 жыл бұрын

so is Cresselia, what's your point? (even though it more looks like a Piñata to me)

Giratina: THE ETERNAL DRAGON Meanwhile Rayquaza just sitting off on the side giving Giratina an angry glare.

@lks19

3 жыл бұрын

we all know Rayquaza is the og dragon type legendary Pokémon lol

@kingkmtso5107

3 жыл бұрын

@@lks19 technically latias is the og legendary dragon type

@necrozma4029

3 жыл бұрын

(screams in Primal Arceus from Pokémon Insurgence)

When the Disc is Dubious 😳

@OtisCluck

3 жыл бұрын

Haha amogus suss haha funny

@mattwno8719

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@chestynski479

3 жыл бұрын

AMOGUS

@darkbloxstudios7461

3 жыл бұрын

dubious

@dazcarrr

3 жыл бұрын

porygon more like impostor-ygon

"The recently revealed Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl" You can tell when this was made

@arthurpc7492

3 жыл бұрын

but BD and SP are in a far past

@djdrizzy9139

3 жыл бұрын

Well, 2 months ago is pretty recent.

@dallinmoody1297

3 жыл бұрын

Sometime in the past 2 months?

@SilverDungeoneer

3 жыл бұрын

2 months isn't too long ago

@OtisCluck

3 жыл бұрын

@@arthurpc7492 that’s Legends: Arceus, BD and SP are the remakes

OK! I have thoughts!

@lordpvt

3 жыл бұрын

ok

@der_saftmon

3 жыл бұрын

* insert Saitama "Ok" here *

@FenC919

3 жыл бұрын

Yay! Response video! But also aren't gen 2 plot and gen 4 plot supposed to be happening near simultaneously? (Multiple dimensions and timelines blah blah. That feels like a cop out answer.)

@KingOldendorf

3 жыл бұрын

oh no not another copy theory on your channel as i subscribe both!

@hazzard_destroyer

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

They gotta bring Porygon back into the anime at some point, cause Goh wants to catch every Pokémon

@LexiTheStarQueen

3 жыл бұрын

@my spirit digimon is rareraremon still, they gotta bring Porygon back at SOME point

@dallinmoody1297

3 жыл бұрын

Off screen capture

@8948380

3 жыл бұрын

@my spirit digimon is rareraremon the pokemon company have hinted that all three will be in the anime at some point (don't remember where I heard this)

@ghiblikami5329

3 жыл бұрын

@my spirit digimon is rareraremon and hence they introduced Mimikyu. That badass ghost fairy Pokémon that hates Pikachu.

@FlawlessiceVA

3 жыл бұрын

@my spirit digimon is rareraremon While I don't disagree, this is pretty off topic man.

This theory falls apart when you realise you can obtain Porygon Z before going to the distortion world, and so it was created BEFORE Cyrus was trapped there. Everything else is pretty solid, it just means that the Dubious Disc wasn't created to save Cyrus, but for another reason entirely before Team Galactic started their plans.

@sludgy5134

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe they weren’t sure if their perfect world would be easy to traverse at first so that’s why they needed it

@arminreindl7742

3 жыл бұрын

another issue is that, if this was the case, the Dubious Disc must have either been INCREDIBLY rushed or had been in developement before Ross joined Team Galactic (if he did at all, for all we know Team Galactic could have worked on a Dubious Disc without the involvement of a former SilphCo employe, which just makes it all the more dubious) as the Johto Games and Sinnoh games take place at the same time (see the Red Gyarados being mentioned on tv in gen4) obviously its hard to say how long it took for the events in either game to play out, but it still seems like the timeframe is incredibly narrow for this to take place So in my opinion Ross, while being a nice connecting piece, creates more issues for the theory's timeframe than he helps to explain things.

@JamesDavy2009

3 жыл бұрын

@@arminreindl7742 Team Galactic could've hacked into Silph Co.

@IceStormGale

3 жыл бұрын

The sense behind outfitting a Pokemon to be designed for exploration of alien worlds is still sound, though. It could be that they tried to design Porygon Z to do what Porygon 2 had originally been intended to do, but without a team of programmers to check and improve the code (given that Team Galactic was a criminal organization and probably couldn't spare the resources to recruit more,) the Dubious Disc ended up with unstable code that simply couldn't be fixed quickly enough for Cyrus and his plans.

@andrewharris1344

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe porygon Z was a back up plan in case they could get the lake trio they used porygon and upgraded it for dimensions travel as the two legendary Pokémon live in “Alien worlds”. However due to little information on how the worlds work they tried to make it be able to adapt to many environments. However that overloaded the data and made porygon Z glitch out. Due to it having to much stuff and not enough space. Also porygon Z can have the ability: (Adaptability) which I think helps my theory.

You can find the Dubious Disc in the Galactic Veilstone Hideout *before* Cyrus leaves for the distortion world, so it was not created to rescue him.

@JamesDavy2009

3 жыл бұрын

I'm definitely on board with the theory it was created to go after Dialga and Palkia in their home dimensions. They only went after the Lake Guardians to assemble the Red Chain after ruling their Porygon-Z project a failure.

@mds_516

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, I'm more inclined to believe that it was created by the aether paradise to study ultraspace (like its pokedex entry suggested) and then its source code leaked than the saving cyrus thing

@milk_choc7889

3 жыл бұрын

@@mds_516 I agree, their security can't be too tight if project files of Type: Null were leaked and _Faba leaves his computer logged in._

Speaking of Porygon When is Lockstin gonna explain that weird form he keeps teasing in his Kaskade videos?

@gustavju4686

3 жыл бұрын

Hope it's the next video

@sunitharajesh9953

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah me tooo

@bandband4498

3 жыл бұрын

The giant enemy thunder bird!

Porygon-Z implies the existence of Porygon-A through Porygon-Y. _Thanks for coming to my TED Talk_

@MatiNuva1724

3 жыл бұрын

Out.

@arthurpc7492

3 жыл бұрын

Porymon the series XY and Z, introducing mega buged evolutions

@maxwellmendo2828

3 жыл бұрын

Or maybe they started from the Z to the A, so it would be the fist of the alphabet?

@gordon.sarratt

3 жыл бұрын

I want porygons a-y

@Retro_Red

3 жыл бұрын

Does that make the original Porygon Porygon1? Or Porygon0? Are there other numbers?

5:32 "Never seen or heard from again" Until he showed up alongside Palkia in Masters anyway.

@Zenithal1843

3 жыл бұрын

The Cyrus from Masters specifically doesn’t know what the Distortion World is.

@mattwo7

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zenithal1843 That's my point. It's the same version of him that vanished in Diamond and Pearl versions as opposed to the version from Platinum who was willfully stuck in the distortion world.

We stan Lockstin's Health Tips.

Thx for making this video because Porygon-Z is my all time favourite Pokémon (in my opinion it's so cool and i like it's design).

@arthurpc7492

3 жыл бұрын

Odd and cool choice, I like you

@Dz73zxxx

3 жыл бұрын

Well no wonder from your pfp...same dude! Always admiring hyper beam animation and porygon-Z is the best user of it

@korimcentire2281

3 жыл бұрын

You don't have to say "in my opinion" Hun. That should be implied. If people can't see that then they have issues.

@Porygigabyte

3 жыл бұрын

@@korimcentire2281 thx

I smell a Missingno video in the future! Also, do you think you can do a video on what real-life locations the spin-off regions are based off of?

@kevinmooney9361

3 жыл бұрын

Yes please.

Pokémon means Pocket Monster Porygon is made entirely of data Porygon is, by definition, a Digimon Pokémon x Digimon crossover confirmed

@kevinmooney9361

3 жыл бұрын

But yet can be stored in a techno apricorn...

@ale-xsantos1078

3 жыл бұрын

If you think about it all pokemon can be converted into data and be stored in computers, meaning they're all Digimon

@ExcalibeonSwordofEeveelutions

3 жыл бұрын

@@ale-xsantos1078 By that logic humans are also Digimon, since humans can be converted into the digital world as well.....

@ale-xsantos1078

3 жыл бұрын

Doesnt humans lack the "mon" part tho? I mean in the pokemon world sure you could argue that the humans there are pokemon too, but I dont think that applies to the humans from the digi world tho(or from our world for that matter)

@Twilord_

3 жыл бұрын

Porygon is an Appmon. Digimon come from another dimension, like Ultra Beasts. Appmon come from the human dimension, like Pokémon. Weirdly Appmon are like a month older than Ultra Beasts; these two franchises are goddamn quantum entangled. Did you know Tamagotchi, which Digimon was an offshoot off, released a month after Pokémon? - It was only after Pokémon started adding V-Pet elements in Yellow that Digimon went multimedia, and it is known from interviews Nintendo felt threatened by V-Pets in those days. Bandai Namco are the owners of Digimon, and if you know the lore of both Pokémon and Digimon, their lastest game Pokémon Snap might just get you thinking about the Royal Knights.

In a realistic setting, it would be shocking there aren't more Porygon evolutions, given its code-based nature. The modding community would have a field day with it, and I bet Porygon qT and Porygon uwu would have been made within a week of each other

Lockstin : Here I am! Editor : *rock you like a hurricane*

@robbieclayton4672

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too

Donkey in the Distortion World: "Shrek, I'm Looking Up!"

I’m of the belief that Porygon Z and the dubious disc were actually made by the AETHER FOUNDATION in a time before they pursued Type: Null research. In the Alola games, all Porygon-related items and even Porygon itself are obtained from Aether-related people. Gladion uses a Porygon Z. It’s purpose to explore alien dimensions fits the MO of the Aether Foundation and the pursuit of Ultra Beasts. And like Type: Null, it possesses type changing abilities to adapt to foreign environments (thru the Conversion moves). My belief, is that the Aether Foundation developed the Dubious Disc after seeing Porygon’s potential under Silph Co. They hoped to upgrade it to be fit to send through Ultra Wormholes. But after their own patch was deemed too buggy, they distanced themselves from the research. But the Dubious Disc still leaked before the events of DPPt, falling into the hands of Team Galactic, who have an interested in space and time in general.

@JamesDavy2009

3 жыл бұрын

That's a very solid belief and I'll incorporate it into my head canon.

I always thought the Dubious Disk was kinda a product of Team Galactic trying to reverse engineer the Upgrade and then implement it to make Porygon2 into a form that would aid their own needs. I personally wish Porygon2 got branching evolution from Silph Co. that was its intended evolution into a Porygon3 and it could finally achieve its main purpose! Also, has anyone ever really considered that the Dubious Disk literally turns Porygon2's head upside down? Like that spike on Porygon-Z's head is its neck from Porygon2... No wonder it acts weird! If that happened to me I'd be acting strange, too! Because I'd be dead...

4:45 The first mention of Alternate Dimensions comes when cyrus is summoning Dialga/Palkia. He says he summons them from another plane.

How can someone sound so sane but also talk like a crazy scientist

@arthurpc7492

3 жыл бұрын

Being lockstin

Porygon-Z is my favorite all time Pokémon, I was so happy to see this video!! 😭

@cabarettaximan6592

3 жыл бұрын

Same!!

@rubixtheslime

3 жыл бұрын

Pory fans unite! ....on GitHub. Human contact is scary.

@geo8g

3 жыл бұрын

Same!

Sorry, my bad! I clicked on a free give away link while working on Porygon-3

One problem with the theory, you can get the dubious disc before Cyrus ever disappears. A simple retcon could be that team Galactic hired Ross to make Porygon-Z so it could explore the Distortion world. When he failed, they got rid of him which would explain why he doesn’t show up in dppt. He probably went back to Johto or something. My guess is that Charon created it to explore the distortion world. Although he’s a genius, he doesn’t have access to any of the resources at silph co so he messed up the code. It would also explain why Team Galactic is in possession of the Up-Grade because he probably studied it in order to figure out how to reverse engineer the code. Makes sense to me.

You forget Pokémon Generations... Cyrus specifically tells Saturn: “Don’t look for me” He doesn’t want to be found.

@justinalicea1590

3 жыл бұрын

That's Pokémon Generations only. Not only does Cynthia not go into the Distortion World, but neither Diamond or Platinum are there.

@dallinmoody1297

3 жыл бұрын

But in the game universe doesf Team Galsctic *know* that?

@JayVGC

3 жыл бұрын

that doesn’t mean saturn told the grunts/scientists

@tacostastegood3720

3 жыл бұрын

The animes and its movies cannot be trusted. Generations could have made an assumption after the fact. The animes pull too manu weird stunts to be an accurate representation of the games' intent

@dallinmoody1297

3 жыл бұрын

@@tacostastegood3720 more accurately generations is it's own continuity entirely, though heavily inspired by the games

11:13 The localizers who went with describing the object instead of what's on it: yes

Porygon-Z is one of my favorite Pokemon! Thanks for giving it the love it deserves, Lockstin!

What if Porygon-Z actually discovered alternate dimensions, and so accidentally went back to before Cyrus disappeared, even though, according to your theory, Team Galactic made it afterwards, while also maybe bringing a dubious disc with it, then other scientists making more.

6:50 Bob from SMG4 what are you doing here? Laugh track plays

@chialuenlis5931

3 жыл бұрын

I want to know too.

I always thought Porygon was a metaphor for video games. Starting off with low poly (Like early gen consoles) then getting nicer, smoother models and eventually gets to the point where games are just very buggy. But that was just my approach. I liked yours a lot better. XD

I'm willing to admit I may have over thought this, but hear me out: Lockstin mentions that fixing Porygon's flight should have been a primary concern for the developers of the pokemon, but instead, they focused on making round. My argument is that making the pokemon round WAS their attempt, at least the most visible and obvious aspect thereof, at making the pokemon fly better. Firstly, we must consider how flight would be achieved. In the atmosphere, this is generally achieved (at least in planes) by forcing air around a wing to create lift. For this to happen, the air mist be traveling faster on the top side of the wing, so as to create a vacuum of air to generate the lift. Planes accomplish that by having a wing that while relatively flat on the bottom, have a larger and curved surface on top. This means the air travelling over the top of the wing has a longer distance to travel, and must therefore go faster in order to meet the air travelling across the wing's bottom (if the air didn't meet together, it would create a vacuum of air behind the wing, pulling the air over the top faster, that's how this works). Thinking about a plane's wing's shape, it is easier to see why they chose the design for porygon they did. In order to force the air over Porygon's body, however, the pokemon would have to be in motion. From here, the general shape of the pokemon seems to lend itself to being thrust forward from behind by some invisible energy. That makes sense, as it forgot the need for wings in the sense the birds use them, which wouldn't work in the vacuum of space, anyways. Opting to propel the pokemon through space using thrust created via Newton's third law in space, while generating lift in Earth's atmosphere using Bernoulli's principle. This Pokemon's design is low-key genius. Porygon was created initially in an environment where a high poly count wouldn't be possible, giving it the crude appearance it has. By smoothing the edges, though, drag is reduced. Rounder and sharper objects tend to behave more aerodynamically than do flat, angular surfaces. This means that Porygon2 would fly better, and it may even execute better flight control, too. This argument would be further strengthened if Porygon2 has a higher speed stat, which I'll check after I write this. I've always loved porygon, but this really makes me appreciate the design and thought that went into this. Even if by coincidence, the end product is beautiful! EDIT: Porygon2's speed is 60, while Porygon's is 40.

Commander Cyrus is like... in his mid 20's. Talk about ambition 👀

Pokémon Company: Announces Gen 4 remakes Lockstin: *I can milk you*

@Djinn_Entonic

3 жыл бұрын

With enough prolactin you can milk anyone

10:32 This adds a new meaning to "Team Rocket, blasting off again!"

He comes up with ideas and theories that the Pokémon company didn’t even think about

"💻🐦", I see what you did Lockstin.

first, he discusses orbeetle, then melmetal, and how porygon Z! my 3 favorite pokemon

Cool theory that I haven't heard before! The only thing I think is a bit off is that the dubious disc is in diamond and pearl without cyrus in the distortion world. So I think it's possible that Cyrus commissioned it for research maybe even as far back as HG/SS if you want to explain why the dubious disc is in johto

This is a very interesting theory. I really like it! My only idea of a possible hole is that in Pokémon Generations, Cyrus is able to call Team Galactic to tell them that he's fine, but to not come looking for him. I know this might not be canon, but it does prove that Cyrus is able to contact Team Galactic and tell them that he's fine, so they wouldn't need to create Porygon Z.

My personally theory is that Giratina ate Cyrus, or at least threw him into the endless void of the Distortion Realm

I'm not used to theory videos on other channels and paniced a little when you didnt end it of with "and that's just a theory, a game theory. Thanks for watching". Lol

@robbieclayton4672

3 жыл бұрын

lol

6:47 I like how bob from smg4 randomly appears in the corner just to say "Cyrus" and then dips

Haven't finished yet, but he's gonna mention that the Dubious DIsc was found in the Galactic HQ building in Platinum, right?

“One day you will wake up in a world created by me” Does that mean.. legends arceus?

@fatuusdottore

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, that’s in the past.

@necrozma4029

3 жыл бұрын

Unless...?

@mayevie

3 жыл бұрын

it's in the past but it *could* be an alternate timeline that cyrus created or smth, so maybe :0

@necrozma4029

3 жыл бұрын

I mean the Mega Timeline and the Original Timeline are seperate

Team Galactic being the ones who made Porygon-Z to try to rescue Cyrus sorta makes sense since it's a post-game only pokémon in the original Diamond and Pearl. So obviously the player wouldn't be able to get it before the climax of the game.

@AbsolXGuardian

3 жыл бұрын

That was something I wish Lockstin had explained. In the games, when is the earliest you can access Porygon-Z/when do NPC trainers have it. If you can sight it before Cyrus' defeat, things kind of fall apart. And I think team Galactic would have a reason to try to create it even in Diamond or Pearl, meaning Porygon-Z doesn't have to be a version exclusive for the theory to work either. It's just the motivation is the most solid in Platinum

@eldonm2770

3 жыл бұрын

@@AbsolXGuardian Victory Road & the Survival Area. Each has a person with a Porygon-Z.

@AbsolXGuardian

3 жыл бұрын

@@eldonm2770 Well if we say that the dubious disk was leaked, then the timeline still works.

@eldonm2770

3 жыл бұрын

@@AbsolXGuardian wait when can you first access the survival area?

@AbsolXGuardian

3 жыл бұрын

@@eldonm2770 I think it's battle frontier related

I love how the last part, about Porygon-Z had something that look like Missing No.

I think that it's more likely that Cyrus had them make the Dubious disk so he himself could get to the distortion world, since you find the disc before Cyrus is left there. I do love how a single random npc character has been given so much more backstory though, and it's head canon for me now!

I feel like I'm the only person that has ever said porygon-z is my favorite pokemon and I don't regret a single thing

@LemonTelesto

3 жыл бұрын

I see I’m not alone

@wyattritter14

3 жыл бұрын

I'd say it's one of my favorites in Sinnoh. But it's also one of my favorite shiny pokemon ever

@jacoblamasney241

3 жыл бұрын

Cool

@helios._.

3 жыл бұрын

I love porygon it hink people don't hink about it because it's a trade Evo and it's from a pretty forgettable pokemon

@neoncherry64

3 жыл бұрын

SAME

Haha, Love the Team Four Star reference 😂❤️

The unknown producer is Todd Howard. >Made in a rush. >Raised the stakes too high. >Bugs. >A.I. has weird behavior.

I love this episode and it really tied up a mystery well. It’d be even better if 1. Everyone acted like it’s a new Pokémon(having it in your party) and 2. You could find the Doubious disc in Team Galactic’s base AFTER Cyrus is sucked into the distortion world

I'm a simple woman, I see my favourite villain and one of my favourite Pokémon, I click.

@bakh554321

3 жыл бұрын

Porygon Z is the Favorite of my friend. Thus my I see I click.

@castform7

3 жыл бұрын

Anything gen 4 related probably gets a click from me.

@TheUnholyOneDsQ

3 жыл бұрын

Villain being cyrus? Cause I'm on the same boat, give the man his well deserved break if he's already having a mid-life crisis in his 20s

Hey Locks, do you plan on making shinies for your Lokemon? Even if it’s just the starters, that would really cool.

Thank you so much for making this video about my favourite Pokémon! Didn't know I needed this, but I did. Looking forward to the possible 'part 2' about him!

Oh man I MISSED theories like these! I never even thought of these plot links! Love it!!

Can’t you make an video on how some Pokémon act just like their Pokédex entrees says? Like in the beginning of the game we see a Dodrio with two of its head sleeping while the third keeps watch. There’s a part where a Zangoose fights a Seviper. Or where we see 3 Mareanies chase a Corsula.

@asherdevin

3 жыл бұрын

Why would he make a video on that?

@frozezone2947

3 жыл бұрын

@@asherdevin Because of pokemon snap

@asherdevin

3 жыл бұрын

@@frozezone2947 I wasn't aware we needed a video on a fish swimming or a bird flying. In fact, wouldn't the video suggested just be playing a pokemon game?

Porygon-Z was made to make Hyper Beam viable (with Adaptability).

@shytendeakatamanoir9740

3 жыл бұрын

Hyper Beam being Ultralaser in French. Like Ultra Space! Coincidence? I mean, yeah, probably, but still...

@dallinmoody1297

3 жыл бұрын

The only 3-stage evolution family where all members can learn hyper-beam (at level 1 even)

@JamesDavy2009

3 жыл бұрын

@@dallinmoody1297 Well, Hyper Beam was reserved for final evolutions or Pokémon who couldn't evolve at the time. Porygon was in the latter category.

@dallinmoody1297

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesDavy2009 i'm aware Also the porygon line is the only pokemon that can evolve twice without a level up trigger

14:24 You seriously don't realise? HE IS HAVING AN EPILEPTIC SEISURE!

Man the porygon family was in my top 5 favorite pokemon for the longest time as a kid (like gen 1-4 honestly)... Such a cool video and weirdly nostalgic... Now I wanna use one in a playthrough

0:12 Ah, I see what you did there

Porygon should be talk about more he's pretty much a mystery.

Slight issue here: You find the Disc _before_ Cyrus gets smacked by Giratina. But this is a simple fix. Porygon-Z may have been designed as part of a rescue contingency, one Cyrus didn't give enough time for proper development.

@genuinegenie7078

3 жыл бұрын

I was really hoping to see someone else mention when you get the dubious disk, and the contingency plan thing is a nice idea, but I don't think they expected Giratina to show up at all. The plan was 1. Catch the lake guardians 2. Make the red chain 3. Use them to control Dialga and Palkia 4. Remake the world in his image. Giratina showed up right the heck outta nowhere, surprising everyone (since the only real buildup to it was the title screen), so I doubt they had a plan to deal with it if they appeared.

@FanOfMostEverything

3 жыл бұрын

@@genuinegenie7078 Fair point. Consider this alternative: "The multiverse is vast, nigh-infinite. This modified Porygon will find a world without spirit. A logical paradise that must exist by mathematical necessity." "Uh, sorry, Commander. It mostly just twitches and fires Zap Cannons at anyone who says the word 'semicolon'." "ZEEEE!" "See what I mean?" "Hmphh. Fine. I'll do it myself."

@genuinegenie7078

3 жыл бұрын

@@FanOfMostEverything Oooh, I like the idea that Cyrus explored his options before going the destroy reality route.

Fun fact:all members of the porygon line were at one point fully evolved. The porygon line is also the only one that needs 2 trades to be fully evolved

Oh! Edit and Note: Porygon Z is my favorite Pokémon and it may get a mega evolution which I am excited about, I also have a Porygon 2 plushie like you!

@robbieclayton4672

3 жыл бұрын

I dont think it’s getting a mega.... and its my favourite too

@GreenGalaxio

3 жыл бұрын

@@robbieclayton4672 Good to hear.

@JamesDavy2009

3 жыл бұрын

It might get a regional variant in the future that will evolve into Porygon3. We've seen alternate evolutions from regional variants several times in this generation.

@GreenGalaxio

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesDavy2009 Also, there’s a slight possibility of a mega for all legends from Sinnoh, Arceus could get one but needs all 3 space makers with mega stones to get.

I would kind of like to see a uncorrupted porygon evolution. I’ve seen some fanart that are pretty neat. 🎩 🐍 no step on snek! 🇺🇸🇭🇰

@JamesDavy2009

3 жыл бұрын

Well, with regional variants being a thing we might see a future variant of Porygon achieve evolution into Porygon3 through the Up-Grade item. There's some food for thought for all of you fan game designers out there.

7:25 It's funny because in Digimon Adventure the chosen kids were all but literally stuck inside an Escher staircase and the inside of the Millennium Puzzle is _also_ an Escher staircase.

@JamesDavy2009

3 жыл бұрын

There's also the Maze Card from _Cardcaptor Sakura_ and a certain scene from _Labyrinth._ The Escher work you refer to is called _Relativity._

@mattwo7

3 жыл бұрын

​@@JamesDavy2009 Escher staircases are kind of their own thing transcendent of his Relativity you know. In fact it's not even a concept wholly original to Relativity as he based it and other works like Ascending and Descending, House of Stairs and to a lesser extent, Belvedere and Waterfall on the Penrose stairs. He just happened to popularize the concept and Relativity just happened to be the most popular of his works based on Penrose stairs, transforming Prenose stairs in to the cultural meme of Escher stairs.

I wonder if Rotom might have anything to do with it. Maybe the dubious disc is an upgrade that rotom messed with, as it is a piece of technology, and when it got applied to porygon 2 it was all glitched. An un-rotomized dubious disc might give us a perfect Porygon.

To be fair, making a Pokemon like that would have been hard enough without magic. So Porygon2 failing it's intended purpose makes sense. And maybe PorygonZ is just glitchy because they tried something huge but it didn't work out as well as they'd like...

You'd assume the people who created Porygon and Porygon 2 would've made Porygon Z.

I love watching your vids, they give me something to do at night when I can’t fall asleep and don’t wanna do homework. :D

6:48 Lol I like how Bob popped up when you used that text to speech

Lockstin: Asking himself if he's dumb Me: "Funny words Magic-Man"

Lockstin: "am I dumb?" Me, who's gotten several IQs worth of gains in smarts thanks to his videos and entertaining way of presenting information: HOW dare you! You don't get to put yourself down good sir! You are a smart cookie!

Brilliant! Suddenly the strange golden eye that Porygon-Z gets makes a bit more sense; it is meant to be reminiscent of Team Galactic's symbol!

It's certainly been awhile since I've heard a Lockstin Pokemon theory. Fantastic as always I see.

But then cyrus gets out of the distortion world when you finish the pokedex in platinum

@dallinmoody1297

3 жыл бұрын

Then he grows dorito hair and becomes lysandre obviously

@jeremyetremblay6663

3 жыл бұрын

@@dallinmoody1297 you sounds like you don’t believe me

@dallinmoody1297

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeremyetremblay6663 ... While it's true I don't remember that interaction (and bulbapedia says nothing about it) what I said is actually my headcanon... I just say it humorously because I know no one would take it seriously

Wow, is it late for me. I’ll have to come back tomorrow to watch this, unfortunately. See you then! Edit: I watched it. Great video as always!

I think the theory is pretty solid, but since you can get the Dubious Disk before the post-game, I would say that Porygon-Z was created by Cyrus to either explore the Distortion World or to access the timespace where Dialga and Palkia live

I see that SMG4 Bob reference at 6:50 Very well placed!

I'm a simple man I see porygon, I click #Porygang

@lordpvt

3 жыл бұрын

me to

@robbieclayton4672

3 жыл бұрын

#Porygang... I WANT IN

Cyrus = Ross. CyROSS. Cyrus' Japanese name is Akagi, which is a great Mountain in the KANTO REGION OF JAPAN! Also in US/UM you fight Cyrus as part of 'Team Rainbow Rocket' a possible callback to his days as Team Rocket Scientist Ross. You could also argue their hair colours are the same also.

@fatuusdottore

3 жыл бұрын

Uhhh. No. Cyrus is named Cyrus because of David Koresh (a famous cult leader whose name, Koresh, translates to Cyrus, as in King Cyrus of the Bible.) As far as Akagi, it’s probably a reference to the fact Cyrus is literally a volcano waiting to explode, seemingly dormant/inactive but in truth seething with rage and emotionality to a boiling point.

I am still of the belief that giratina was never "banished" to the distortion world... but stationed... its actions during platinum are very deliberate, dragging cyrus into the distortion world right at the brink of his success... thus saving the world in its own way... its dex entry also says that it can see into the normal world through mirrors which is almost like a security guard watching security cam footage, and, although it probably could have easily killed you, it takes a more neutral stance towards you until you approach it (if i recall correctly, it might actually attack you) essentially only battling you when you threaten it... being frank... it can (and does) free itself from the distortion world as well... it recieves no outside help to physically drag cyrus into the distortion world itself, not to mention that you encounter giratina in the normal world in pokemon diamond and pearl... perhaps looking for the escaped cyrus to bring him to a place where he cant hurt anyone anymore

Video idea: How did Mohn(lusamine's husband) managed to escape from ultra wormhole and reach that island? Why cosmog was with him? Wasn't it supposed to be under the care of solgaleo and lunala? In anime, what the heck happened to him? Are they going to rescue him in Pokemon journeys? If so, why didn't they tried in sun and moon itself?

@TheHammerGuy94

3 жыл бұрын

For the anime, its very possible they will find him. The hints come from crown tundra’s max lair lore. The max lair was infected with ultra wormhole energy which is why it’s pulling pokemon from different dimensions. The explanation to this was from the broken description of adventure 4 of crown tundra, where it mentions professor mohn. And the scientists stationed there are from burnet’s dimensional research lab. In the anime, the train the aether fam are currently taking shows a snowy landscape, presumably following magearna to galar’s crown tundra.

What if Pokemon Legends Arceus, is the new universe created by Cyrus?

@frozezone2947

3 жыл бұрын

it can't be possible, as the universe would lack spirit and emotion

@fatuusdottore

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not.

@fatuusdottore

3 жыл бұрын

@@frozezone2947 The biggest giveaway that it’s not, is the fact technology is nowhere to be found. You expect me to believe Cyrus’ idea of a perfect world involves no technology? The dude who is obsessed with machines??

Controversial: Is Porygon a duck or goose? 👀

@JamesDavy2009

3 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@frozezone2947

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

The one big problem I see with this theory is that the dubious disc is an item that can be found in team galactic's hideout, which you visit before Cyrus is even in the distortion world, let alone "trapped" there. I guess you could say the rushed code was meant for something else and they changed it to make Porygon Z, but if you trade Porygon 2 with the dubious disc that you can obtain before Cyrus goes to the distortion world, you still get a Porygon Z. Neat theory either way though.

Thank you so much for all videos you made. You are one of my absolutely best youtubers ever. :) Jsi borec. Mám moc rád tvoji tvorbu.

I, for one, think the Aether Foundation created Porygon-Z, it makes sense.

6:48 Ok I didn't expect a reference towards SMG4 in this video, glad to see that Gnoggin and/or the editor are a fan

The IRONY of Porygon-Z having a seizure every time he attacks

12:32 - I really like the way he rubs the Porygon2. Very satisfying.