"legion is a strange, trippy character so every time I come across a trope I'm taking another dose of LSD."

@jacksonjaime3525

2 жыл бұрын

you probably dont give a damn but does any of you know of a trick to log back into an Instagram account?? I stupidly lost the password. I would love any assistance you can give me.

@davianabel3381

2 жыл бұрын

@Jackson Jaime instablaster :)

@amansizedduck

2 жыл бұрын

That's how you actually end up in Legion's head haha

@tunny79

2 жыл бұрын

Follow the white rabbit….

@OtakuD50

2 жыл бұрын

Oh, hi! You caught me tripping balls.

Fell asleep watching comic book youtube vids and woke up to you talking about tripping on absinth and I want you to know I've never felt more surreal or displaced so I'm subscribing over this

@Lizardking73

5 жыл бұрын

you won't regret it; this is one of the best channels out here on that topic (and surrealism is an integral element to it).

@borkbarkbark

4 жыл бұрын

Omg bro same! I fall asleep watching him and when I woke up was like "he's drinking WHAT?"

@penelopegreene

Жыл бұрын

"You can always drink more!"

It's been such a long time since I've found a youtuber that consistently keeps me interested day after day and that's what your channel is to me. Great work man.

@MyFirewing

5 жыл бұрын

Heavily agree! Been watching comic tropes everyday for the past week now

@cfcbbrr9830

2 жыл бұрын

I’m here in 2021 and I agree with everything word you said

@ripper1157

2 жыл бұрын

2022 and just found ya Chris!!!! Favorite group written

@ripper1157

2 жыл бұрын

The absinthe!!!💓

I never got into these comics when I was a kid and I didn't appreciate Sienkiewicz's art at the time, but now I love, love his work.

@ComicTropes

7 жыл бұрын

He's a really fantastic artist. I love his recent paintings. Definitely a guy worth following in social media.

At last, someone likes Cypher.

@leeloolevay

4 жыл бұрын

coders blow

@cruddddddddddddddd

4 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Hickman likes Cypher, too

@trentonnewman9683

4 жыл бұрын

I love Cypher. I know this is an old comic, but I will always stick up for my boy.

@baileymoore7779

3 жыл бұрын

What good would Cypher be in a fighting group like the X-Men? He can understand any language, that's his power right? There's no reason to have him travel with the group. Yes, his skill might be useful sometimes, but rarely in a fight (other than to maybe avoid one because miscommunication based on language barrier). You might as well leave him back at the Mansion and just communicate by radio if his skills were needed.

Well done on distinguishing between DID and schizophrenia. These were also some of my first books, and only now do I realize how good they are.

@Cythil

5 жыл бұрын

Actually got Schizophrenia wrong. What is the core to Schizophrenia is that someone that suffer it has a hard time distinguishing and understanding reality. Like hearing voices or having other forms of hallucinations and delusion. The mind is not fractured per say. But the disorder often connected with other disorders like depression and mood swings so I can see how that idea might have started to circulate. It is not hard to see how someone suffering form sever Schizophrenia might be confused with a person that have other disorders ether like DID even if these are seen a very separate things. For many having voices that tell you things and having a other personality may seem very much alike after all. However, these terms are often used interchangeably which I think ComicTropes did very well to explain that there absolutely not. Mental disorders are complex and sometimes the terms change as we get a better understanding on how to categorize these disorders. Sadly these disorders are not often accurately portrait in media. I can only think of two times that Schizophrenia have been done somewhat well in popular media my self. I also think is important to know that there are people that have Schizophrenia that can function in society. And it tend to be more people that suffer Schizophrenia on the receiving end of violent crime then the other way around. A bit off topic but I still think it worth stating due to the stigma.

When I was studying Psychology in my undergraduate days, it was always presented to me that it's not really that they have completely different person inside of you that can interact with each other. It's more that someone with Dissociative Identity Disorder creates a different identity usually as a coping mechanism when dealing with extreme trauma from the past like child abuse etc. Think of it as an extreme version of escapism people mentally do when they read or watch fiction to get away from real world problems, This is why Hulk deals with Dissociative Identity Disorder a bit better as a metaphor since it was shown that the "HULK" was always a part of Bruce Banner when he was abused by his father even before the gamma bomb. It's not a completely different person inside of you but a part of you trying to deal with a situation. Bruce Banner just suppressed his anger until the gamma bomb made it manifest into a physical form

@ComicTropes

7 жыл бұрын

Mario U Yes, I understand the real world interpretation of DID but there seems to be room in the comic for Legion to have absorbed a separate psyche. But maybe not. It's not 100% clear.

@jacobstaten2366

5 жыл бұрын

Could this be part of what happens with some transgender people? Like they cope with the situation by wanting to be and be treated like someone else, so they pick the most cosmetically different variation they can think of?

@mellowcorpsep6665

4 жыл бұрын

@@jacobstaten2366 doubt it

@jacobstaten2366

4 жыл бұрын

@@mellowcorpsep6665 I'm not saying everyone of them, just some.

@nothanks7263

4 жыл бұрын

@@jacobstaten2366 no.

Diluting Absinthe with Gin :D

@artemismeow

5 жыл бұрын

Ikr. XD

Your comments on Cypher's abilities struck a chord with me, I totally would have also been excited by the ability to learn any language immediately. You mentioned going into a random restaurant somewhere in Japan or Russia and just talking with someone. That's something I would also love to be able to do as easily as Cypher could have. I can speak one foreign language, Chinese, at least conversationally. The ability to speak to random people who were raised in a vastly different culture than my own is absolutely exciting. Judging from your videos, it seems like you spent some time in Japan. Did you ever learn much of the language, and if so, did you fulfill that dream of talking to a random stranger in a restaurant?

@josephmatthews7698

2 жыл бұрын

Ni hao. I never learned all of Chinese but I get that same rush completely engulfing myself in other cultures and stories. Chinese was one of my first.

Love Bill Sienkiewicz... started as a Neal Adams clone on Moon Knight and then took off with his own style... Elektra: Assassin, Daredevil GN, Stray Toasters... and his covers... and just his inking elevated many other artists pencils.

@rzesiette594

3 жыл бұрын

I just realised how many artists from my country works in comics. I obviously mean Poland :D

Nearly 5 years later and…this may be my favorite episode that I’ve watched so far. :)

Cypher have the most useful power in the real world, you can watch any anime you want.

@Glassandcandy

5 жыл бұрын

Gaming Dreamer wouldn’t you only need one language (日本語) for that??

Your super power is adding crazy academic vocabulary into KZread. Truly impressed. LOVVVVEEEEE your videos.

Legion is fantastic, this needs a follow up! Season one was great, season two is even better!

Lightening absinthe with gin...you're my new (drunk-ass) hero!

Great episode, thank you. As an Englishman with Scottish family I have never heard anyone say ‘laddie buck’. However the term ‘laddie’ on it’s own is still in use.

It was totally because of Bill Skienkiewicz's artwork that made the book. He is an amazing artist.

Man I thought I was the only New Mutants fan who liked Cypher.

@Phazon8058MS

5 жыл бұрын

There are dozens of us! DOZENS!

@favoritemustard3542

4 жыл бұрын

Literally‽

One of the things I liked about Karma was that she actually spoke English with a French accent, and used French terms and phrases, instead of Vietnamese, because she learned English in French. It was a good way to reference the colonial history of Vietnam (and, from a writing perspective, probably made it a lot easier for a white comic author in 1985 to write than Vietnamese), especially since Karma's backstory is inextricably linked to the Vietnam War and the plight of Vietnamese refugees in post-war America.

The effect that drink has on you is hilarious

Sienkiewicz is a total force, one of my favorites if not my favorite artist in comics

What an engaging, wholesome channel. You’re a super calming person! Thanks for the great content!

Your interest and deep thought about the world inside the comics and how the comics are made is continually fascinating. Your appreciation for Cypher's in a real world shows true contemplation of the powers question, not just flight or strength but easy world wide communication and career advancement. Always fun...not gimiky or reactionary but thought out....and the trope to sip ratio is a nice unique approach. Thumbs up.

Fox's Legion A MUST WATCH !! For those who haven't seen Fox's Legion the whole series is completed ( lucky you i had to wait to watch them ) and it's an epic watch plus keep in mind it's the complete series so your not left hanging . The visuals of David using his powers , the narrative , the characters , the story , it's all .... GROOVY !!!

@mcaro5908

4 жыл бұрын

I'm watching this vid just now and remembering how much I enjoyed the show myself

The Chris Claremont run of X-Men: Wolverine could not be in a fight without referencing his adamantium claws. Never thought about it as a kid, it bugged me as an adult, but now I realize that maybe it was an editorial commandment from on high that forced Claremont to write like that.

@IncredibleMD

3 жыл бұрын

Jim Shooter was really big on the idea that every comic was someone's first.

I've been bingewatching your content and I love it. Love your positive outlook on comic books and your never ending curiosity. Hope your channel'll keep rising becayse you deserve it.

Legion is an incredibly underated TV show. It was very well done and exceptionally weird. I'm really excited about the show runner Noah Hawley's new FX ALIEN series.

@Silver-rx1mh

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Legion was stunning and imo ahead of it's time.

thats the best use of the warped bubble effect i have ever seen dude i love your content

@tardo5362

2 жыл бұрын

still think this. laughed my ass off for at least a solid minute yet again.

Dude, you crack me up when you drink. You slowly deteriorate before our eyes. LOL

This was a great episode, Chris. Thanks a lot.

Cypher was a man ahead of his time. He would be a lot more useful now than in the past. Hell... this ability would allow him to decipher the codes behind serial killer messages or mysterious computer programming. He could even come up with a super difficult hard code to disguise your secrets. He is basically the Michelangelo teenage ninja turtle character in of the team coming up with gadgets and figuring out puzzles.

@daveryan8845

5 жыл бұрын

Umm Donatello does machines. Michelangelo is a party dude.

@thrillho5287

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah bro that’s Donny

@LupineShadowOmega

5 жыл бұрын

They also eventually gave him access to things like body language. And general pattern recognition. It makes him a really talented hand to hand combatant as well as really competent at learning skills.

Great episode - great show in general. You have a penchant for breaking down and summarizing all these awesome books. Then you do entertaining things like get wasted on absinthe!? Ur in my top ten. Keep on growing!!

Super fun video man. You had me laughing out loud. Thank you so much!

I know you probably won't read this, but I was re-watching this video after watching Legion . Three things come to mind: 1) God, this art is great and it really stands out as the only Marvel thing of that era which rivals what would happen with Vertigo. 2) I'd kinda like you to do a video about the Age of Apocalypse comics, where my generation learned about Legion. Though, I know i'ts probably algorithm poison. 3) Even more of a moon shot pitch: it'd be fun to see you do a retrospective on Uncanny X-Men #303, which I swear I used to have 8 copies of because they over-printed it and packaged it with every piece of X-Men merch when I was a kid. It introduced a lot of us youngins to Magik and is such a weird, lovely, melodramatic, soap-opera, failed cash-grab of a comic from that strange time in comics. Oddly, mint is now going for like $30. Again, algorithm suicide, but a good comics history story. PS4) You're the best at what you do. Thanks!

Just now going back and watching this episode. Having an awesome time watching you getting ripped!

Your show reminds me of one of those absolute top tier cable access shows... simply fantastic Keep it going man, even if i get distracted and wonder off, i’ll be back, like when you see an episode of The Red Green Show you just have to watch it... that’s you man... I really enjoy your work

“Gabrielle, right? Right.” 😂 Good stuff, man.

Sovereign 7 clairmont made my head hurt. Maybe ill dig them up. Also you have gotten a lot better as a youtuber from here. Great job!

I've never heard of Mutant X. But I do know that the first live-action X-Men based show was Generation X in the 90's.

Loved Cypher. Grossly under utilized character back in the day. They let him do cool things occasionally; as memory serves he once figured out Magus's DNA and "hacked" it for instance. A writer with a stronger STEM background could have a field day with the character.

@LupineShadowOmega

5 жыл бұрын

The body language take on his powers are pretty interesting.

When you asked what X-Men superpower we'd like to have I knew you were gone

Man, love your videos. Keep doing this great work! so fun XD

you nailed with 2 of your points....I ALWAYS thought, similar to you, what is happening in XMEN whenever i saw Xavier walk and I loved how unceremonious the guest appearances were.

oh hi, you caught me watching your old videos again.

Would love to take a drink with you and talk about comics :D!

Xavier: "Of all the things I have ever encountered... This was one of them."

This might be my favorite of your videos.

Cypher and Warlock were my favorite Duo in the old new Mutants. they were quite cool together in the Asgardian wars and complimented each other well.

Man I love this channel so underrated , !!! Thank u

Is...is that glass shaped strangely or is this video warped?

Hi there! I've been watching some of your videos. They are very interesting and entertaining. Good job, buddy!! The ST episode you refer to is actually the pilot. The crew is trying to save Captain Pike actually. Anyway, very cool stuff with all those tropes. Greetings from México.

Wow! This was way before Crazy Jane from The Doom Patrol. I wonder if Grant Morrison read The New Mutants?

I think this is definitely my favorite of your videos

@adamstriebich530

4 жыл бұрын

So funny

Jean Gray's powerset has always been my favorite. Telekinesis and telepathy is such am OP combo. But then Legion just seems like an even more powerful version of that

I have a pristine copy of a new mutants issue, I forget the number, but it’s one of my most prized possessions because Bill did the cover and it’s awesome

I was listening to this while driving and I turned the screen back on at 24:22 and thought something was legitimately wrong with Chris when he looked all twisted 😲

Legion vs Crazy Jane. Who would win??

I absolutely loved that run of the New Mutants. I gave the series a darker and gritter feel.

Douglock was a character combining the New Mutants Warlock and Cyphers cadaver that appeared in one ongoing New Mutants issue and a miniseries,that I know of. Warlock not understanding the funeral and burial process, dug up the cadaver of Cypher and walked around pretending *himself;friend* could live again. The miniseries was a 3 issue arc, where Warlock somehow lives again but resembles Cypher.

Great Video! Keep up the Good Work!

@ComicTropes

7 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the kind words of support. Thanks.

This might be my favorite Chris! He's so chill. It's fun!

You should check out the movie Split since it's really the actor who played Professor X playing Legion in a movie

@ComicTropes

7 жыл бұрын

Mario U Saw it. Enjoyed it.

@gabrielpetricevic9306

7 жыл бұрын

That twist tho

I really enjoyed the Legion TV series. They really tried to make it very different and visually artistic.

You left the price tag on the bottom of the glass. 😆

The reason that writers of comics reiterate the actions in a comic is because it leads to better memory of the comic. Two inputs are better than one.

an interesting tidbit: when Legion was first introduced (a few issues before this), he was stated to be autistic. however, I think this was Claremont just wanting him to stand out because he's not really written like an autistic character.

I was ready to stop reading NM, but then Sienkiewicz took over and made it my favourite comic.

I always thought that Cypher should be able to master any fighting style he saw since it is a form of communication.

@basteagui

6 жыл бұрын

no.

@thekillermanmurphyshow4410

5 жыл бұрын

RowdyRodimus same dude or like mastery of sword fighting or somethings

@raycearcher5794

5 жыл бұрын

He could. That's canon. He's also been able to learn some magic.

@DoveAlexa

5 жыл бұрын

He'll be the only one who can understand interpretive dance

@Takeoverthebank

4 жыл бұрын

That’s not a form of communication.

Man, I loved the new mutants, started reading in college and thought it was all pretty amazing stuff. I have a signed by Chris no 1 and a signed print from the demon bear storyline by Sienkiewicz. Rock on :D

Absinthe should not make you hallucinate. Also, you should use an absinthe glass, put the absinthe spoon over it, place a sugar cube on the spoon, pour the absinthe over the sugar cube into the glass, the set the sugar cube on fire, then add a few drops of water and stir the dissolving sugar cube into the mix of water and absinthe. You should drink it correctly for the best flavor. Side note: many people that hallucinated on this did so because they were either really drunk (see also - pink elephants) or they hallucinated because it was mixed with something like fermeldahide. During temperance and prohibition... Barkeeps would water down their alcohol or "cut it". This helped them to save money by giving watered down liquor and made them extra profit by rationing the reserve. Embalming fluid was one way they watered down the booze. It's toxic, so it would give the drinker similar feelings of being drunk, as they imbibed more they would hallucinate, and if they drank too much it would kill them. There are a series of tunnels underneath a North West American city where a group of men found few barrels of booze. Since no one was looking they started drinking it. In the morning they were all found dead. The barrels were filled with fermeldahide and in a section of the underground that was being used as storage for the mortuary right above.

"Supposedly" is right. Believe me, you get drunk off Absinthe, it's not going to make you trip balls. This is in itself a trope, basically a pre-internet meme almost.

Nice episode but i see that drink hit you blindsided lol.

The Freedom Force game duology (because they killed the series before releasing the third game, thus ending the series on a setup for what I'd assume would be a an "Event" type finale) also throws some friendly jab at the accents, one of their main characters is basically a magical version of Jean Grey (that later gets her very own Dark Phoenix storyline) and they give her Storm's catchphrase but with a southern accent. "Bah the gahddess!"

Holy cow. you are in a dissociated state. good review.

If I'm completely honest, I didn't like Sienkiewicz's art back in the 80s. I just didn't get it. My friends and I called him the "blocky" guy on New Mutants. These days I'm absolutely mystified that Marvel wasn't throwing stacks of cash at him to keep him drawing every comic they could. He did New Mutants, and Moon Knight, and Elektra: Assassin, but beyond that there really isn't much penciling on his resume. He did much more inking. Maybe he just didn't want to pencil all that much, but I wish he would. He's amazing.

You often criticize the overuse of narration, but I think writers like Walt Simonson and Chris Claremont really knew how to use it. Their narration didn't just describe what you could see in the art (at least, for Claremont, that was usually characters thinking or talking, more than the narration boxes), it described emotions and the stakes and tension, and could really lend to the gravitas of the scene, especially when they started getting poetic about it.

BTW, that wasn't Captain Kirk, it was Captian Christopher Pike.

I have that same shirt. I love it.

Can't believe I havnt seen this one! I freakin loved Legion.

This was an interesting video! You would be looking at me in the video and it was like you were talking straight to me. Then I would be like "Is his face gonna start tweaking again?" Yep, then your face would start tweaking! lol

You are a genuine inspiration. ;D

cool vid. I really love the Legion show. Did you watch it? Hope I get to hear what you thought of it now that it's completed.

Well Yu Yu Hakusho also had thoughts along those lines. Shinobu Sensui is an antagonist with dissociative identity disorder and one of his henchmen fell in love with a female personality of his, Naru. Whom he speaks of fondly and compliments her beautiful poetry.

Wolverines healing factor,you could be the greatest stuntman in history

Absinthe + gin + tonic water = Mountain Dew, apparently

Cypher is in the wrong universe - he would be perfect for monitor duty in the JLA.

I have just started reading The (original) New Mutants series, from the start. I'm up to #4. I like it a lot! Which surprises me a little, as I would have thought, before reading, that it was too "immature", being that's it's concerned with teens and pre-teens. So far, I have to award it one of the highest accolades I own, as say: it's a LOT like the original Claremont X-Men run; it had mysteries and twists and turns every installment; and the soap-opera, inter-personal relationships between the characters is very sweet and nice. Cheers Chris, "LiL'JpD."

Issue 26 is the only issue I need then I'll have complete Volume One of New Mutants

@ComicTropes

7 жыл бұрын

Very impressive! Issue 26 should not be that hard to find.

@lamartherevenger

7 жыл бұрын

skunkape Surprisingly none of the comic shops (there's 5) in my area have it.

Xavier got his body cloned by the time the new mutants series started, around issue 6 and when he came back from secrets wars he could walk normally. By the time he left to space he was still walking, so during the new mutants run most of the time Xavier could walk, as for magneto the idea of those pages was to show how he was turning into a good buy who would eventually became the new headmaster so it makes total sense to have them. Cypher is back and he is amazing. I love Doug he was this sort of geek boy between gods.

Bill Sienkiewicz was my first introduction into my New Mutants LOVE with issue #18. His comparatively short run remains my absolute favorite NM run to this day. Shooter's edict was silly, understable, but silly and Claremont just made it ridiculous.

Super talented guy Bill Sienkiewicz is. I've grown to really like Guido Carosella's white troll hair, though I once thought it looked stupid. But I've kinda never understood what Legion's hair is supposed to be. I still think Claremont whatever his Bill Shooter-enforced habits may be, is more intuitive and thoughtful about his and other characters than other writers. Today a lot of them are written out of character, but Chris knows all the characters inside and out.

30:23 maybe, after a while of David using this wristband, they should have revealed that it was actually useless, and that because they were just simply giving David some support at all, gave him what he thought he needed to be in control of his seemingly unlimited powers.

Thanx m8. Quite entertaining and I love Elektra Assassin. Cj!

the term schizophrenia was used early on because that was the term used medically at the time. i can remember when they 1st started calling it DIDs when working in a psych ward.

I love you’re intro

Loved the drunken tangents. I would originally have said nightcrawler cause i would love to have teleportation. Cyphers powers are great though and I'd probably pic that now

probably late to the party, but pyrokinesis is the manipulation of fire, like moving it, (kinetic), while the "summoning" or creation of fire would be pyromancy. Pyro for example has the ability of pyrokinesis (can not generate fire on his own [usually]), whereas Sunfire can shoot fire, but has no influence on fire except creating it, which would be sole pyromancy. Sometimes characters can do both

Have you done a show on Denny O'Neil yet? If not, would you please consider it? Also, how about that 'Judas Contract' episode, lol? Thank you, Chris. I really enjoy your stuff.

When I discovered Blevins, I didn't appreciate his art as I do now, neither. I was still rather young (even if we were 2 years late , in France, on the American edition at that time) ... since , I realised how his landscapes are incredible and I talked with him via emails and on Facebook, and he is such a kind person...

Especially relevant now with Way of X!