For anyone that wants to know how Ezekiel Simms would do against these other Villains He is trash and is getting mixed by others badly. He is a downgrade Spiderman without the powers and ability except Super Strength. He was getting clapped by Vehicles, and Fireworks. His speed is trash. For Strength he is Street Tier. He has no feats like at all it’s sad. His power is poison, which would be a strong power to go up against but he sucks. He was choking out Madam Webb with both hands and she took no damage of any sort. Sandman is doing him crazy. He cant even be poisoned since he is literal sand. Ezekiel couldn’t take out 4 normal humans, yes Madam Webb can see the future, but that’s it they should be outclassed physically but yet he sucks. Sandman dogs him

@Abominatrix650

20 күн бұрын

Ezekiel Sims from the movie is Tom Holland's closest thing to Bonesaw. Except he needs money and someone gives him a tip on some creep who's going around harassing women. Tom shows up to deal with him and onlookers start filming on their phones and betting money. Tom dogwalks Ezekiel. He gets money and, IDK, ordinary police show up and take Ezekiel away like Thanos in the story with the Thanoscopter or Magneto after the wooden gun. This whole thing was basically a side quest to Tom.

for the goblin blade, its mentioned by the film makers he upgraded his gear off screen

12:43 An imploding one was actually shown once again in Spiderman 3 when Peter killed Venom . Anyway , the makers only described two types of bombs for Goblin , one showing this implosion scene and the other which turns into razor bats , so same looking explosions or not , all exploding/imploding ones have the same level of power since they're supposed to be the same thing just work a little different in different scenes . 14:04 The tentacles are stated no match for Tobey spiderman's strength and shown as well , when he outclasses them while being held and the pull on table still has enough force to send Doc ock flying out the bank making dent in a car , in novelization it's stated Doc ock was about to black out once in one of these fights . The fights clearly show Tobey dominating Doc ock several times , with Doc ock using people as leverage to have a chance at beating Tobey either by luring him in with Aunt May to land his big needle hit or exhaust him by making him stop the train . In the final act also , he gets into the position you show due to being distracted in saving MJ , earlier he's clearly shown beating Doc ock and winning the fight . 16:44 Human sized sandman didn't " overpower " Tobey , he had tricky abilities like you showed and Tobey even after casually punching through him , kicking his legs off , shooting web bullets through him , was having difficulty in overwhelming him . Outabilitied can we make that word ? 😂 , human sized sandman didn't do anything serious to Tobey and ran away when he was saving people . " Kept up " isn't the word i would use for Symbiote spiderman fight , he stopped him one time by an extended leg on his belly , then headbutt him back and punched him into some trains before getting punched at right back getting his jaw swiped off and simply overwhelmed from there till Spiderman got the " FINISH HIM " prompt . And there's a feat which is mentioned in statements after this , " minor quakes felt throughout the subways system " being headline in an article about symbiote spiderman after this fight , which is nearing multi city block level AP and durability since spiderman didn't break any of his limbs in the fight . Venom should scale to this symbiote spiderman for being stated stronger than base . I agree that giant sandman beats him but human sized simply can't , sure sandman can keep regenerating but well...Venom can do the same as shown him quickly healing back from razor bat cuts , healing after being shot down by cops in a prequel comic which showed what Eddie was doing right after being taken over by symbiote and before the final act of the movie . As far as we know symbiote provides bottomless stamina , so Venom will just keep bullying human sized sandman till he gets tired of losing and calls it a day . I want to correct some things about Harry , Tobey didn't want to kill him but still making him struggle in removing his hand from the face is an impressive strength feat which lands him close to base Tobey's strength in 3rd movie , he was also taking the punches pretty well , blitzed through a wall casually went through a mini pumpkin bomb explosion from the razor bats, Tobey practically needed some swinging momentum to beat him , the knock out move shouldn't be underestimated either , it practically uses the glider's speed against Harry , in first movie when they explain some spider abilities that end up going into spiderman they state the webs have the proportionate strength of the metal wires used in holding bridges , think how hard the penetretating force from that string with this much tensile strength would hit combined with the glider's speed , and it's a specially tight one not like usual webs that can stretch too , tripwires made from web are a legit stated ability of Tobey's spiderman alongwith nets and bullets . Harry also competed to Black suit Tobey in close combat and made him actually try , it took that for Tobey to dominate him like he used to dominate Og Goblin in first movie , sending him flying without swinging momentum , Base Tobey couldn't do that . Giant Sandman is also underrated , he's actually way stronger than his size implies , when he got to take his time in punching spiderman while Venom held him down , his punches caused quakes so strong that they didn't only shake the whole vicinity with its buildings but also broke Venom's webs that were way above everyone , those specific attacks should at least be multi city block level AP for the intensity in these quakes . Giant Sandman wins . This was a fun comparison , i particularly like these because i don't see as much villains comparisons even though we have a decent variety of them in live action too and most of them are pretty interesting .

@spiderxparker_

Ай бұрын

This guy knows his stuff

Underrated channel bro, I’m here before this blows up

God bless you too bro. Also I agree with the scaling here. Electro or Sandman for sure.

Cool, good video. I enjoyed the long discussion and breakdown. I agree with the overall final conclusions. I think Carnage/the symbiotes are being underestimated here tho. He should be higher than small building level. It didn’t take much for him to destroy Shriek’s holding cell. Even after a long fight, Carnage shook and somewhat crumbled the cathedral just by climbing. I wouldn’t consider the cathedral a small building. Venom/Riot pierced a rocket in the first movie. Before anyone says that’s an outlier, Venom/Riot pierced it after they were really weakened from the fight. Riot also crashed a spacecraft at the beginning of the movie and survived its crash. Carnage vs Sandman isn’t as one sided as you think. Sandman clearly gets hurt by bullets which the symbiotes don’t but they can hurt each other, and Spider-Man is able to hurt Sandman at times, even removing legs, teeth, etc Goblin and Doc Ock scale to Spider-Man and Carnage/Venom/Riot have similar strength feats to those 2. Sandman had a tough time landing a hit on Spiderman in the final fight. We can see how fast Spider ascends a building. Venom can also ascend a tall building very fast. Unlike Spider, symbiotes can actually see multiple directions simultaneously. Lightning timer Tobey didn’t exist before NWH so some of his best dodging feats (the stuff Goblin and Dock threw at him) are things the symbiotes could dodge. Venom dodged a lot of Carnage spikes. Carnage and Venom avoided a lot of bullets too. Whether or not they bullet timed is debatable, I suppose

@JbLoco

2 ай бұрын

I appreciate the comment seriously any sort of interaction helps the video spread so I love that you dropped your opinion. And I don’t wanna discredit your opinion as in the video the discussion was based on a “Battle Royale” so in the right environment literally anyone can win. Now to clear up any misunderstandings I don’t believe Sandman vs Carnage is a no diff at all. Sandman just has the superior power and is essentially unkillable for Carnage. Sandman also outscales so I gave it to Sandman. I don’t think “hurt” is the right word for Sandman. He can feel the pain but it doesn’t do any damage. Its not a healing factor but more of immune to damage. Yes when he was shot he screamed in pain but that’s only a feeling his body doesn’t take any permanent damage. Goblin and Doc Ock don’t scale to Tobey. Not anymore. Harry took an upgraded Goblin serum making him stronger than Norman with superior gear as well. Tobey holding back and distracted was able to beat Harry. A bloodlusted Tobey with the black suit (which boosts his physical stats) was contending with Sandman who only lost due to Tobey literally attempting to drown him. Sandman also was able to pull a Prime NWH Tobey down into his sandpit. Yes Giant Sandman had a hard time hitting Tobey cause Tobey has Electricity levels of Reaction speed. Though Sandman was still able to land massive blows. SM1 Tobey scales to Tom Holland. Green Goblin called Tobey “invincible” in SM1 and the only way to beat him was to emotionally nerf him. Goblin walked Tom down in the apartment fight. So the No Way Home feats do carry over. Bullet timing doesn’t compare to dodging Electricity like Tom and the others were able to do. And I wouldn’t say they were “Electricity Timing” as Tom was dodging blasts after they were fired in the beginning of No Way Home. Reaction speed isn’t the same as Physical Speed it’s only what you can actually react too. Eventually they will get tagged by slower attacks as they aren’t as fast as what they can react to. (I can dodge a car going 50 mph from a certain distance but that doesn’t mean I can’t get punched in the face) The Symbiotes aren’t at a speed that is unperceivable so Sandman is going to be able to keep up. He reacted to Electros blast and shielded Tom before they could reach him. I don’t wanna discredit your scaling of the Symbiotes but they don’t really come close to the Sandman. Tom has the best onscreen feats but Norman scales to Tom. That means any impressive MCU feat he has scales to Tobey and his Villians. (I’m not personally a fan of the Hulkbuster scaling chain but I’m aware of the argument and it can be used as a highball that’s something the Symbiotes don’t have) Tom was able to catch attacks from Cull Obsidian who is able to contend with a stronger version of the Hulkbuster, that Hulk fought in Age of Ultron, Hulk rivals Thor, Thor blew up Sokovia. Again I don’t personally agree with the chain of scaling but it shows how crazy it can get. Tom scales to Age of Ultron Thor and Hulk, that means Green Goblin does as well, which means Sandman who outscales Norman does as well. While the Symbiotes don’t have any of that. And again Carnage doesn’t posses the ability to actually kill Sandman

@humanman9920

2 ай бұрын

The symbiotes reach somewhat building level at the very best . And Venom ripping into the rocket was not his own AP he did that by Riot's blade which is sharp weapon making it easier to penetrate . I don't think they were " weakened " cuz that should only apply when the high frequency sound is actually being used . Getting " hurt " by bullets doesn't mean much when we've seen how much it takes to actually pit him down , spiderman himself is way stronger than these symbiotes so idk what u mean by him being able to break parts of Sandman . Venom can't ascend buildings as fast as spiderman cuz he can't web swing . Tobey's spiderman has shown about 90 mph speed while swinging which actually lines up perfectly with what Sam Raimi described his speed while swinging , " like 90 mph " . Can't just say Tobey couldn't dodge lightning before nwh when he's supposed to be a proper spiderman himself with ridiculous powers and has shown it in nwh while being old with back problems , if nwh version did it then it sure as hell means prime one can , and even in spiderman 3 he reacted well to New Goblin who has shown faster than human perception general speed by disappearing from a Cafe under a second with a truck blocking Peter's view and nobody in the area noticing anything passing by their line of sight . And " multi directional vision " 😂 Really forgot about Spider sense huh ? Every single villain after OG Goblin has shown multi directional awareness , Doc ock knew whenever spiderman appeared behind him several times with the tentacles telling him , Sandman sensed something was behind him when symbiote spiderman was tailing him , New Goblin could tell when symbiote Peter showed up behind him and smiled , Venom is stated stronger than spiderman while having his abilities .

@humanman9920

2 ай бұрын

​​@@JbLocoI don't agree to Cull Obsidian's scaling , he fought a much inferior user of hulkbuster barely using flying momentum to increase the force in his attacks , no external help of spare parts after Cull broke the hand like in the Hulk fight , no tricky thing like extending the metal around his arm to trap him like Tony did hulk then flying and ramming him into everything , and above all else no feat like straight up running through its repulsor beam as a show of strength , Cull only avoided them or stopped Bruce before he could use them and overall just used better combat to win not shown strength feats proving him near the best of Hulk's . The only time Hulkbuster even did an equal clash against Hulk was right after Hulk just ran through the repulsor beam so that blow being Hulk's best is also questionable . Also , Hulk rivaling Thor is purely physical strength , never against his thunder , so he's not equal to his thunder feats . Cull should be significantly weaker than Hulk he is just a way better combatant and contends to a weaker hulkbuster in just about every way other than it being built to be better . I think the only fair scaling with those characters that proves them crazy strong is electro scaling to Iron man levels of AP for being powered by his reactor . Thanos just edges Hulk in strength , and Cull is just a good combatant with weird equipment not close to Hulk in pure strength , who is not as strong as Thor's sokovia feat . So Tobey has strongest and Andrew has fastest feats before no way home .

@JbLoco

2 ай бұрын

@@humanman9920 I don't agree with it either. I was only using it as an example of why Sandman outscales Carnage without having to debunk his scaling.

@Battle-Enjoyer324

2 ай бұрын

@@humanman9920 Venom getting stabbed and de hosted also weakened him, obviously. His host had nearly/basically died. He was also exposed to fire when he jumped from under the rocket. Venom scales to Riot. They literally rip each other apart at one point and both can generally cut into each other. Sure Venom doesn’t have blades but he has claws and it still takes strength to use a sharp object to pierce something. The rocket is literally built to withstand leaving and re entering the atmosphere Compare Spider-Man vs Goblin/Goblin Jr fights to Venom vs Riot/Carnage fights. Like dude the mansion room doesn’t even get destroyed in SM3 but in LTBC the cathedral is shook in its foundation. Goblin gets stonewalled by a brick wall. Carnage gets stopped by a pillar but not without damaging it and Venom was more weakened than Spider-Man was. Carnage had Venon pinned after stabbings and sound weakness yet Venom’s leg press launched Carnage into a pillar. Where did Spiderman launch someone that big after getting stabbed multiple times and pinned and weakened? When did he throw someone huge like a frisbee/football like Riot did to Venom? Carnage shook cathedral just by climbing. Doc Ock also shook building by climbing but did fuck all damage wise while Carnage brought down tons of rubble and that was after long fight. Venom is stronger than Carnage who only won that part of the fight due to his weapons and superior sound resistance Im not saying Tobey couldn’t dodge lightning im saying that back then he didn’t show that he could and didn’t yet scaled to/above the other Spider-Men in speed.

Finally Someone Said Sandman Is The Strongest

Loved the video by the way. I was just wondering if for Sandman if he was in an arena or something to fight them and you were talking about his sand walls fighting electro and becoming the huge sand monster like in spiderman 3 wouldn’t he require extra sand to do that stuff and like in an arena there may be no extra sand so he might just be smaller like the flint mario body. Loved the video though bro thank you.

@JbLoco

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I should explained that more. He does need sand around him to grow in size. So I shoulda explained the environent. Basically any area where there “Earthly elements” Flint can find sand. Like dirt for example. Let’s say they all just fighting in New York. Flint can go to any park or construction site and find Sand. Usually I would argue how it depends on the environent like how Lizard could beat Electro if they fought in the sewers. But majority of the time if they fight on land dirt or sand is somehwere around. Appreciate the love tho. God Bless

@humanman9920

2 ай бұрын

​@@JbLocoSeparating between prep mode and without prep would be fun . Villains without prep = Goblin without Glider, Doc ock too far from his fusion reactor to get shocked by its power lines😆 , Sandman in human size , etc . But even with prep time shouldn't Doc ock's tentacles be able to resist Mysterio's illusions since they're pretty advanced AI and these illusions aren't actual magic but caused by machines ?

You forgot the bike messenger.

Dawg, I don’t deserve to call myself a Spiderman fan. I forgot about carnage, shocker, vulture, and shri, and rhino😂😂😂

Are Symbiotes weak to fire specifically or any heat? Cause electricity is really hot and can burn you of course, but it’s unlikely he’ll start an electric fire. Plus Carnage runs on red blood cells while Venom runs on nervous cells so idk if Carnage can get electrocuted. And Carnage could just bite Electro of course. Electro still likely wins, but I was just curious

Moral of the story, Jared Leto should not be allowed to act in any movie adaptations of comic book characters

I thought you mentioned it would be a battle Royale, but it seems you went down the line one by one. I really enjoyed the character breakdowns but in a true battle Royale, all fighters battling at once, there would be fighters either at random disadvantages or advantages not to mention the possibility for temporary alliances being made to eliminate certain op villains. Idk I just feel like the battle breakdown was a little askew

@JbLoco

20 күн бұрын

I appreciate you watching the video. I did indeed mention it was a Battle Royale but it’s basically impossible to go over every possible outcome and situation. It’s all up to the viewers imagination. I said in the video you can make an argument for any character to win because of the almost infinite outcomes of a random Battle Royale. I also gave 3 outcomes to the fight of certain situations people would be looking for 1. Who scales the highest. 2. Whose power would basically win if they all fought. 3. With prep time who wins? Yeah alliances would be something to talk about but that’s all up to your imagination. Especially if we take them all in character. The Symbiotes would stick together maybe Venom would betray them. The Vampires would work together. Norman is definitely recruiting others especially his son Harry. That would be a really really long video to discuss every outcome possible.

@JbLoco

20 күн бұрын

And I did go down the line 1 by 1 but I split them up by groups. And the groups were the Cinematic Continuity they were apart of. So 1 group was the Raimi villians, another was the TASM villians, Sony Villians, and MCU Villians. Then who I thought would win whoever was left fought it out where I picked out Sandman to be the winner.

Bonesaw from the first Spider-Man movie.

@JbLoco

2 ай бұрын

Only valid answer

If you had asked me before NWH id say Vulture or Ock. But after NWH its Goblin

What did you record the audio on, a toaster?

@JbLoco

2 ай бұрын

Yes

@Plurple_YT

2 ай бұрын

Better than my mic

Symbiotes could see through Mysterios Illusion

@JbLoco

2 ай бұрын

Can you prove that the Movie Symbiotes can do that?

The Symbiotes are extremely weak because in terms of actual scaling they're so fodder Even civil war mcu spider man can beat them with little difficulty however Electro when amped by an arc reactor is likely stronger than the entire list Vulture did lose to Homecoming Tom compare that to Otto octavius who casually ripped off the chest area or the Iron Spider suit(Post Infinity War to Far from home) or Green Goblin who was unphased by the punches of an enraged tom Sandman however nearly killed a Raimi Spider Man from the third movie and Harry Osborne was stated to be stronger than his father it's even proven on how he holds his own against a bloodlusted symbiote spider man and venom who's consistently shown and is stated to be stronger than Spider Man I'm honestly going off of powerscaling terms

I just wanna mention that Carnage could beat Sandman. He can use that tornado to decimate Sandy quickly and then tear him apart while he’s weak. And then keep chopping and ripping apart anything left. The only thing stopping this is that we really don’t know how sandman can die so even if he’s torn up to literally nothing, he can probably reform

@ravenouspuncher

Ай бұрын

Carnage stomps sandman

@SoldierBoy_snippet

Ай бұрын

@@ravenouspuncherno.

@SoldierBoy_snippet

Ай бұрын

Carnage is small building level bro.

Symbiotes are stronger and powerful than any elemental spiderman villain . Though they have weaknesses but that doesnt hold them back . venom defeated sandman in comics just by biting him . Like sandman , electro , venom and other symbiotes can spread their tendrils and can manipulate their environment . There is no way sandman or electro can win against venom or carnage .

12:43 An imploding one was actually shown once again in Spiderman 3 when Peter killed Venom . Anyway , the makers only described two types of bombs for Goblin , one showing this implosion scene and the other which turns into razor bats , so same looking explosions or not , all exploding/imploding ones have the same level of power since they're supposed to be the same thing just work a little different in different scenes . 14:04 The tentacles are stated no match for Tobey spiderman's strength and shown as well , when he outclasses them while being held and the pull on table still has enough force to send Doc ock flying out the bank making dent in a car , in novelization it's stated Doc ock was about to black out once in one of these fights . The fights clearly show Tobey dominating Doc ock several times , with Doc ock using people as leverage to have a chance at beating Tobey either by luring him in with Aunt May to land his big needle hit or exhaust him by making him stop the train . In the final act also , he gets into the position you show due to being distracted in saving MJ , earlier he's clearly shown beating Doc ock and winning the fight . 16:44 Human sized sandman didn't " overpower " Tobey , he had tricky abilities like you showed and Tobey even after casually punching through him , kicking his legs off , shooting web bullets through him , was having difficulty in overwhelming him . Outabilitied can we make that word ? 😂 , human sized sandman didn't do anything serious to Tobey and ran away when he was saving people . " Kept up " isn't the word i would use for Symbiote spiderman fight , he stopped him one time by an extended leg on his belly , then headbutt him back and punched him into some trains before getting punched at right back getting his jaw swiped off and simply overwhelmed from there till Spiderman got the " FINISH HIM " prompt . And there's a feat which is mentioned in statements after this , " minor quakes felt throughout the subways system " being headline in an article about symbiote spiderman after this fight , which is nearing multi city block level AP and durability since spiderman didn't break any of his limbs in the fight . Venom should scale to this symbiote spiderman for being stated stronger than base . I agree that giant sandman beats him but human sized simply can't , sure sandman can keep regenerating but well...Venom can do the same as shown him quickly healing back from razor bat cuts , healing after being shot down by cops in a prequel comic which showed what Eddie was doing right after being taken over by symbiote and before the final act of the movie . As far as we know symbiote provides bottomless stamina , so Venom will just keep bullying human sized sandman till he gets tired of losing and calls it a day . I want to correct some things about Harry , Tobey didn't want to kill him but still making him struggle in removing his hand from the face is an impressive strength feat which lands him close to base Tobey's strength in 3rd movie , he was also taking the punches pretty well , blitzed through a wall casually went through a mini pumpkin bomb explosion from the razor bats, Tobey practically needed some swinging momentum to beat him , the knock out move shouldn't be underestimated either , it practically uses the glider's speed against Harry , in first movie when they explain some spider abilities that end up going into spiderman they state the webs have the proportionate strength of the metal wires used in holding bridges , think how hard the penetretating force from that string with this much tensile strength would hit combined with the glider's speed , and it's a specially tight one not like usual webs that can stretch too , tripwires made from web are a legit stated ability of Tobey's spiderman alongwith nets and bullets . Harry also competed to Black suit Tobey in close combat and made him actually try , it took that for Tobey to dominate him like he used to dominate Og Goblin in first movie , sending him flying without swinging momentum , Base Tobey couldn't do that . Giant Sandman is also underrated , he's actually way stronger than his size implies , when he got to take his time in punching spiderman while Venom held him down , his punches caused quakes so strong that they didn't only shake the whole vicinity with its buildings but also broke Venom's webs that were way above everyone , those specific attacks should at least be multi city block level AP for the intensity in these quakes . Giant Sandman wins . This was a fun comparison , i particularly like these because i don't see as much villains comparisons even though we have a decent variety of them in live action too and most of them are pretty interesting .