Iam a Queenslander through and through and I love JT but Jowey is the guy why I watched NRL .. All the way from PNG ..

@auzziguy449

Жыл бұрын

haha "queenslander through and through" but you're from PNG? OK

@chetgoldstein6148

8 ай бұрын

@@auzziguy449he confused me with that statement

I remember when Brett Kimmorley was getting picked ahead of John's for rep footy because his club coach, Chris Anderson, was also the Australian coach. Ludicrous.

@aximusroh6453

3 жыл бұрын

Anderson coached the "Flat style" play which won the Storm their fist premiership in their second yr in the comp (1999) and Kimmorley/Hill combo epitomized it! That style of play was mesmerising but countered by Alfie and the broncs in 2000 then put to bed by Joey and his band of Novocastrians in 2001

@rawdog1999

3 жыл бұрын

@@aximusroh6453 Great comment. They were fantastic to watch in '99. I forget about Scott Hill when I think about the great players of the NRL era. He was excellent.

@airshredder7314

Жыл бұрын

Right on! It frustrated me because I knew Joey was so much better.

@martinharvey3990

Жыл бұрын

I agree, Johns should've played 7, but Kimorley was class for Australia during that time.

@MrZZsharka

Жыл бұрын

The guy who picked Johnathon Thurston never played with Andrew Johns or if he did it would have been just before he retired. Andrew Johns also played in a much tougher era. Thurston never played against Wally Lewis, Ricky Stuart, Allan Langer, Geoff Toovy, Brad Clyde, Paul Harrigon, Paul Siranin, Andrew Edingshouson, Brad Fitler, Bret Mullins, Laurie Daily, Mal Meningah, Anthony Mundine, Sunny Bill Williams (if he did it was short lived as he went to Rugby Union along with Loti Takiri) Wendell Sailer, Steve Renough, Rod Wishard, Steve Menzies, Nathan Brown etc etc. In Thurston’s era Brath Anaster and Robbie Farah were stars in Origin and made the Australian team. There’s no way they would have made the origin or Austrian team in Andrew John’s era. Maybe not even on the bench.

Most who pick j.t are the newer guys but nobody is touching joey John's! He's the most complete player of all time

I reckon Cooper Cronk has to be in this conversation. 9 Grand Finals in his career, won premierships at both clubs he played at. Made the Roosters a proper contender within one season and the first guy to win three in a row in the modern game. Also the only guy to make 9 GF’s in the modern game.

@germanicbarbarian3473

3 жыл бұрын

Nope

@pepeesq.7966

3 жыл бұрын

It's so disrespectful that he isn't even mentioned. He's not a highlights-reel player, but he is the most technically proficient halfback in history, and if there's one man who I want to have his hands on the ball 2 minutes before full-time, no matter what the score board, it's Cooper Cronk.

@germanicbarbarian3473

3 жыл бұрын

@@pepeesq.7966 nope

@pepeesq.7966

3 жыл бұрын

@@germanicbarbarian3473 Good point, mate. You're really articulate and provide well-thought opinions.

@germanicbarbarian3473

3 жыл бұрын

@@pepeesq.7966 lol

Joey john's for me all round gun attack defence and making plays all day. No disrespect to JT but Joey's ability to bring others into the game was extraordinary.

@whydidyoudothatkarl

2 жыл бұрын

I love JT but Joey dragged an average team to grand finals by sheer will.

Andrew Johns Complete Player.

Joey could do everything Thurston could plus he tackled like a forward.. No comparison really… Thurston is a great though.

@deevita7459

3 жыл бұрын

John's was a forward.

@user-ic5xq8oc9z

3 жыл бұрын

Johns and his forward passes

@Navigator_Isle

3 жыл бұрын

Alfie Langer for me 🐴

1. Joey Johns 2. Johnathan Thurston 3. Ricky Sturart 4. Stacy Jones 5. Sterlo

Joey, Sterlo, Alf, JT, Duncan Thompson, Sticky are all incredible. A case to be made for all of them

@parahakaire6554

3 жыл бұрын

No Cronk???

@jenspenz9419

2 жыл бұрын

@@parahakaire6554 no. No one who knows footy puts Cronk in that stays he’s was great student toiler classy etc but not in goat convo calm down

@parahakaire6554

2 жыл бұрын

@@jenspenz9419 tell me whose done more than cooper cronk hahha its laughable

@auzziguy449

Жыл бұрын

@@parahakaire6554 mate look at the teams Cronk had around him. JT and Joey(more so) would carry a team.

@mitchelltownes6251

5 ай бұрын

Nathan Cleary is the best

Johns because he had a better understanding of the game and his role in each game. He never played the same game every time. He was able to adapt his attack depending on how teams defended and how they were targeting him. One game he would play a simple half back role and just be that general and let others into the game to take the pressure off him all game such as gidley and Ben Kennedy, and the next week he would play alot closer to the ruck and be a bit more daring and take the line on and subdue the opposition with his kicking game. Not many could read the game and oppostion 5 steps ahead like joey did and that's why he is the GOAT.

I can only assume it’s the younger audience or Qlders picking Thurston. The guy probably has a career winning record of 45%. Thurston was great but Joey is probably the GOAT, I only think Cameron Smith can challenge that title.

@WTC-1990

3 жыл бұрын

I think Smith is the GOAT, Joey is the Goat halfback & Thurston the Goat Five-eight

@WTC-1990

3 жыл бұрын

@CMooVe disagree, but lockyer is a great, I see him as a fullback tho

@narelleweatherall2571

3 жыл бұрын

Cameron smith us a bum refs won him he's games when he would cry to the refs and get away with cheating that's why they were stripped of their Premierships

@WTC-1990

3 жыл бұрын

@@narelleweatherall2571 if you think that then you have no idea, Smith is the goat

@sgt.yarpyarp144

3 жыл бұрын

Mostly recency bias is why people pick Thurston over johns

Johns could tackle better than most forwards where they hid JT in defence. JT is also one of the best players ever.

@deevita7459

3 жыл бұрын

John's played Hooker

@Wonkayy

3 жыл бұрын

@@deevita7459 what?

@deevita7459

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wonkayy John's played a lot of games at hooker that's why his defence was better.

@phenomplays7385

3 жыл бұрын

@@deevita7459 defending in the middle is different to defending on an edge.

@Allahu_Akbar_69

Жыл бұрын

Jt had chronic shoulder issues throughout his career tho, which effected his tackling as he got older. He was there to make a tackle when he was needed tho

Jonathan Thurston modelled his game off Johns and Lockyer - that says it all.

@auzziguy449

Жыл бұрын

Johns and Lockyer the greatest halves combo of all time

Both were so good, but you have got to also include Ricky Stuart and Allan Langer in the conversation. We have had some top Halfbacks that's for sure

@parahakaire6554

3 жыл бұрын

Ricky Stuart was good but not on the same echelon of talent in my opinion.. Cronk was better than both of them... Especially in clutch moments

@julianfalciola5237

3 жыл бұрын

@@parahakaire6554 Cronk was awesome! Top player

@Navigator_Isle

3 жыл бұрын

Alfie Langer for me 🐴

@jenspenz9419

2 жыл бұрын

Calm down. You a right about great halves tho

@jenspenz9419

2 жыл бұрын

@@parahakaire6554 Cronk wasn’t better than Alfie lol not even Stuart Stuart changed the game with his spiral pass and kicking game and Alf was just a torment. Cronk was a robot compared to them who played with great players around him always.

Johns followed by daylight followed by JT & Ricky Stuart, people sleep on how incredible Ricky was

@boilinwater69

3 жыл бұрын

Replace daylight with Langer and you might be right

@JMMM1986

3 жыл бұрын

Completely agree

@jenspenz9419

2 жыл бұрын

He was THE genius. Until he broke his leg sadly. Raiders would of won that year in a canter had he not broke his leg he was that good back then,they struggled to win a a game after he did that

@pauljcross2289

Жыл бұрын

Johns overrated...and had issues

John is the best..a complete player

It's so difficult to split them. Joey was a better defender, JT a much more consistent goal kicker. Thurston played in the greatest QLD team/s ever in that period of dominance which elevated his standing. Joey had one of the greatest origin series' (2005) for an individual player ever. I couldn't choose between them really. Thurston was faster and his dummy was awesome. Joey had his excellent sidestep and I would argue his overall kicking game (during play) was slightly better. As that little girl said in the Mexican food ad "Why not both?" 😂

Joey is the most complete player ever. JT superb also and Ricky, Alf, Sterlo.

@jenspenz9419

2 жыл бұрын

Kenny

@bernieatkins5182

Жыл бұрын

@@jenspenz9419 Kenny played the Challenge Cup final back in 1985. Peter Sterling for Hull and Brett Kenny for Wigan. If you watch this video you'll see just a glimpse of him. One of the best halves I have ever seen. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Yoh5vNFqla3ZgbQ.html

Johns for sure because he brought everyone together. His combo with any halves partner was good and he could tackle hard thats why his the GOAT. Well balanced and was more cool headed and calm. Capital C control overall. Unlike JT who messes up when opposition gets under his skin. Both have good attacks and style however Joey had variation of style. JT had a good dummy and acceleration and his ability to show up consistantly was outstanding. Both won a finals and state of origin matches and Rep football. However Joey went further to England and showed everyone he is the best in a team, new environment, new coach, new setting and ofcourse he did it in his first game.

I remember getting to the 2nd Test Ashes (2001) at Bolton early so we could watch the Kangaroos in warm up. They were doing line defense work (hitting pads) and out of that insanely talented group, you know who hit the pads the hardest? Andrew Johns! It was like a shotgun going off when he make contact!

@DinkyDiTruBlu

8 ай бұрын

Yep! Awesome defender

If you put andrew johns in his prime, against jt in his prime, i got andrew johns all day, he came back from retirement against the maroons past his prime, in 2005 game 2 and 3. And won the series against jt.

@Australiana

3 жыл бұрын

And Joey bent people in half in defense.

@troystaunton254

3 жыл бұрын

He never came back from retirement, and by your argument of him beating JT in an origin series langer and johns went head to head at halfback in origin Langer won 3 Drew 1 and lost 2 so out of 6 games langer has the wins and series wins on his count.

@TheShepdawg9

3 жыл бұрын

@@troystaunton254 he worded that poorly but johns was the better player. Greater array of skills, better defender. Zero weaknesses.

@Australiana

3 жыл бұрын

@@troystaunton254 No, Queensland won.

@deanburke1434

3 жыл бұрын

Cause he was on cocaine the druggie

No offence to Thurston he a ledgend but Andrew John's all-day

@WTC-1990

3 жыл бұрын

Even tho Thurston played halfback most of his career, I seen him more as a five-eight and he us the greatest five-eight of all time

@Australiana

3 жыл бұрын

@@WTC-1990 Better than Wally and Brett Kenny?

@WTC-1990

3 жыл бұрын

@@Australiana yes

@Australiana

3 жыл бұрын

@@WTC-1990 Ah ok you don’t know who they are.. All good!

@accetom129

3 жыл бұрын

@@WTC-1990 end of the day he had seven on his back bro. We all seen that. I like your comment thou man..

Andrew Johns 20 meter spiral passes were sublime.

@troystaunton254

3 жыл бұрын

Ricky Stuart’s were better.

@leegarthgarth8387

2 жыл бұрын

@@troystaunton254 Sticky would do the harbour bridge passes , where Joey's was more flat. Johns had more power in his pass.nothing against Sticky , as he was a great player!

Joey is the best because he was a complete halfback. He was creative, his kicking improved as time went on, and he was tough. He tackled and took on the line at times JT was more of a modern day Laurie daley at 5/8th.

Joey had the complete game and no weaknesses, one thing he always did better than J.T. was tackling and Joey never hid out on the wings he always played in there with the forwards and tackled like one.

@bigpronger

3 жыл бұрын

He had No Fear !! Because he was on the GEAR !!

@geoffreystanton7318

3 жыл бұрын

You think he's the only player that was or is😂🤣😅😂🤣😅

@nswblues3146

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigpronger ecstasy is not a performance enhancing drug 🤦‍♂️ if he was playing while he was on ecstasy then that truly shows how great he was haha

@bigpronger

3 жыл бұрын

@@nswblues3146 Ok mate ... He was a great player because he was on the gear ... Got ya

@nswblues3146

3 жыл бұрын

@@bigpronger I think it’s clearly obvious that he was not on drugs while he was playing.

Stacey Jones

@jordo1654

3 жыл бұрын

😂 nah mate the 8th

@jamessilby1814

3 жыл бұрын

@@jordo1654 defs in front of thrusty lol I reckon joey an im a queenzlander lol

@GG-mf3rz

3 жыл бұрын

Gary freeman

@Navigator_Isle

3 жыл бұрын

Yes the little general 👍

I think JT is a 6 The only reason he played halfback was because for most of those years North Queensland had someone who could play 6 but not 7 I think Thurston his greatest attribute was vision so in my opinion these two are the greatest six and seven to even play Rugby league

Johns by a mile. Johns was brilliant in every aspect including defence. I’ve also never seen a player make other average players look good (and get them into Australian or Origin teams). Johns also revolutionised on field kicking, ahead of his time

@sergeantsweat

3 жыл бұрын

It's harsh but true.... And N.S.W best years, when alot of Knights player's were selected.... Let's pray they follow suit with Penrith player's this year. Nate Cleary is on point. Feeling for the Panthers, with half a squad up for origin selection....there goes the win streak

@aidanskelton5057

3 жыл бұрын

ever heard of cameron smith he brough players like tim glasby into origin like he literally told the coach i want him in the team and they went on the win the series, seems like everything at melourne being involved with smith and bellamy could turn to the gold

@kelvyndoolan2523

3 жыл бұрын

Why cz he missed one less tackle a game and made the same amount of tackles. That isn't a great deal better if you ask me people exaggerate johns defense. And thurston was clearly a better offensive player which is the Halfbacks primary role in the side lmao

@kelvyndoolan2523

3 жыл бұрын

Gidley, Buderus & Tahu were not average players!! The man was running around with the big 3 of his generation. Stop...

@nswblues3146

3 жыл бұрын

@@aidanskelton5057 I disagree, I think Bellamy is the reason for Queensland’s dominance during that 13 year period. Cronk was originally a benched second rower and Bellamy turned him into one of the greatest halfbacks of all time. Along with Slater, Inglis and Smith. I honestly don’t think there will ever be a coach greater then Bellamy. I believe if Smith never went to Melbourne then he wouldn’t have become the player he turned into.

Joey always, even though I am a Queensland supporter I really love watching Joey play💪

YesSiRr!! Mate.. the Blokes the Eighth Immortal!! Thankz for sharing!!

As much as I respect Thurston, as a Doggies supporter and thank him for 2004. Was it Thurston or Sonny Bill that gave their grand final ring to Steve Price? Either way, massive respect for that too. But I've said it many times, Joey didn't even have to play good, simply being named in the Knight's team would put a rocket in their ass and make the average Newcastle Knights team look like finals contenders. Like, Danny Buderus and Kurt Gidley were GREAT players, loved 'em both, but they didn't hold that presence that Joey had. I just wish we got to see more of the Matty/Andrew Johns combination, they could've created some of Rugby Leagues greatest moments

@user-yj5os4uw2n

9 ай бұрын

If Johns was so good, why were the Knights so bad so often

@CrackDCat

9 ай бұрын

@@user-yj5os4uw2n Why haven't the Warriors won a grand final despite generally being a pretty damn good team?

Joey hands down he changed thmodern halfbacks gsme!! Complete player in defense attack and kicking.

You can’t leave a valid comment about this unless you were there at the beginning of both halfbacks. I say John’s.

Hard to separate the 2 greats. Joey was my all time favourite but JT was a freak. Cooper Cronk was good as well but JT and Joey can also play eyes up footy when structures not going to plan which made them both dangerous. Would be my halves picked any time of the day

johns and daylight second i think jt would probably agree too. joey was so dominant he should of won 6 or 7 daly ms. we were robbed of some prime joey due to injury. he was a 9.5/10 in every facet of the game

Am I the only one that thinks Thurston is underneath Cronk as top halfbacks? JTs form and defense dipped esp late in his career where Cronk was more consistent

@deevita7459

3 жыл бұрын

Yes you are the only one.

@izzy031096

3 жыл бұрын

I 110% agree, Cronk won way more and was far more consistent. Could actually defend as well.

One is the 8th and one is not NUFF SAID

There’s a goat for every Era Joey, J.T Now Cleary

@jenspenz9419

2 жыл бұрын

Fucking Cleary calm down

@auzziguy449

Жыл бұрын

haha Cleary, over rated, O'sullivan replaced him for 5 games, Penrith never missed him.

@user-yj5os4uw2n

9 ай бұрын

Cam Smith is the GOAT....

Langer,Johns,Thurston and Cronk.

JT in my opinion. His ability to be clutch in big moments and almost singlehandedly bring a premiership to North Queensland is just unbeatable in my eyes. I don’t know any other player that could have transformed a club the way he did. They have not been nearly as good since losing him either which shows his influence on the game His winning in origin too is absolutely unmatched! He is the only player to have played in all 24 games of Queensland’s 8 year winning streak. He also has the most points in state of origin history. The accolades speak for themselves

Johns by far the more complete footy player. Could do everything in attack that JT did but would always show up in defence whereas JT would always be hidden on the edges next to a big forward to help him out. I'd say Langer would be a better complete footy player than JT.

JT is clutch. He’s made us all NSW fans frustrated for 8 damn years 😂

Allan langer

@thailanddiscovery6832

3 жыл бұрын

GOAT

@Zmart30

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Andrew Johns 💯🐐

Lol not the person who made the spelling error on the thumbnail surely 🤣😂🤣 You have one job

JT Langer Johns Stacey Jones Cooper Cronk I dont care about what skills you have. Its about who contributes most to wins and how often they do so.

#1 joey #2 JT #3 smith #4 locky #5 Freddy my top five greatest players

Piri weepu🙌

@user-ic5xq8oc9z

3 жыл бұрын

No.. Arnold Schwarzenegger was better

@Pohara68.

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

Andrew johns after I just watched his highlights, never watched him much growing up

John’s won state of origins, by himself. John’s for me

So many greats but joey johns is the greatest of all time

Joey is a hundred times better than Thurston. I wouldn't even pick Thurston ahead of Cronk. Joey does everything in the game and he's a better defender than Thurston who camps on the wing because he can't tackle. Joey is the GOAT

Joey. Sterlo gets left out alot but was the prototype for the modern halfback IMO.

They are both legends....but different players

Langer was a game changer

@Zmart30

3 жыл бұрын

Langer was hopeless without Lewis at origin level

How about we ask Jamie Goddard to settle the question? My thought is Johns is over rated, sure he could tackle hardish occasionally but so could JT but he lacked consistency and intensity and he never shared his drugs with me. Plus he is from NSW and I am looking forward to Origin - Queenslander!!!

In Andrew Johns' early career the question was. Who was better Johns or Langer? Later on it was. Who is better, Johns or Lockyer? At the end of his career it was. Who is better, Johns or Thurston? So what's the common denominator?

@user-yj5os4uw2n

9 ай бұрын

LOckyer was a 5/8 and full back

It’s Johns! And it’s not close!

Sterling was better than both. Both of them had 2 premierships while Sterling had 4 and played in 5 Grand Finals. To say Sterling wasn't a superstar is BS. Sterling is the first player to receive a 10 in Rugby League week and that was against Brisbane in a losing side. Johns wasn't even halfback for NSW and Australia on most occasions

How the hell did langer get left out pfft plz or Ricky

Nobody stamped the game like joey.

JT, has been dominant and competitive for a long time

So much respect for Thurston in all honesty who looked up to Joey

Johnsy footy brain is better than jt, but johnsy needed confidence to be able to do it, so he turned to drugs to spark that within his brain. Thurston did it without yet learned off johnsys brain. Jt is the better half, mentally and physically

I admire Thurston the way he plays the game and wins in big moments for cowboys and QLD. But I think Joey is the most complete player to ever play the game. The best half back of all time

@minyatawilson3095

Жыл бұрын

Complete player, nah, only Greg Inglis fits that mould. John's was slow, that's why he passed a lot. Don't forget his nickname was barge-ass

@user-yj5os4uw2n

9 ай бұрын

Cam Smith is the most complete player to play...his winning record is incredible

John, ALWAYS, CREATOR

Qlder here. Joey is the 🐐

George Williams, Could learn how loyalty makes you a great player. Would always win by a nose

Thurston was a competitor but far from the best.. Cronk was better then him! Cronk is hugely underated.. what was it like 9 Grand Finals? Thurston was just what everyone inspires to be, small bloke and gets in there but skill he wasn't even top 8 of his era.

@andrewkeepa2215

3 жыл бұрын

Lucky no one takes your opinion seriously Have a good day

@floodwaters8887

3 жыл бұрын

@@andrewkeepa2215 Mate every time Cronk was injured in Origin Thurston was found wanting.. also have a nice day

@PeterMaher123

3 жыл бұрын

Cronk had a fantastic career and was a gr8 player but not quite up there with JT or Joey in my opinion

@deevita7459

3 жыл бұрын

Cronk couldn't even crack origin in the halves until lockyer retired.

@deevita7459

3 жыл бұрын

@CMooVeIf JT stayed 7 no way cronk would have been 7 for Queensland.

I've seen both play a lot. Johns wins on tackling and JT wins on competitiveness. Everyone keeps mentioning JT hiding in defence, but the guy had chronic shoulder issues. Its the only way he could have a career. He was always there when he needed to make a tackle too. Its hard to argue either side so ill leave it there but they're both clutch players who did great things in the game.

My vote would be also jonathon thurston, like I know I didn’t see any of Joey johns but even the videos I’ve watched, the stories I’ve heard won’t rip jt historic origin run, bringing a premiership to the cowboys, also the dogs, I’ve watched jt my whole life and his a freak

I've been watching the game for over 40 years, and Johns is the best halfback I've seen in that time ....... I'd also query whether Peter Sterling and Allan Langer shouldn't be in the conversation for 2nd place.

Hard to split them, jt could win you the game with just the little things he did, where joey could do the same with his defence. Cronks gotta be up there as well

It’s Joey easily, the complete player.

@wahlabalwarrior3010

3 жыл бұрын

The complete druggie

@Zmart30

3 жыл бұрын

@@wahlabalwarrior3010 jealousy is a curse

Cooper Cronk the most under rated HB and should be considered in GOAT talks due to his success which tops both JT and Johns

@haydencassidy9536

3 жыл бұрын

Farrkkkk offffff

johns allllllll dayyyyyy mate all day

What about Craig Feild or Michael Gillette.

The reason that Cooper got the number 7 at origin was because he had the club combinations with Billy Slater. Also during cronk and Thurston's time together in the halves, they were played more as left side, right side halves, rather than 1st and second receiver.

love them both but joey slightly ahead just.

Johns and it isn’t close. Firstly for me Thurston was more of a five-eight, but Johns played in an era where the halves still got belted constantly. When Thurston reached his prime, the league really stamped out hits that John’s took every game. Thurston definitely improved his defence over time, where as Johns was a rock on that side of the game in comparison.

1. Cooper Cronk. 2. Andrew Johns. 3. Jonathan Thurston

Surely they checked the spelling in the thumbnail.

Cronk is the best modern day Halfback

@mistagrove4349

3 жыл бұрын

i want whatever you're sniffin

@wahlabalwarrior3010

3 жыл бұрын

You are 100%

JT had a much better career and was more consistent. Johns was better in defence. 2005 origin john's was unstoppable but JT had a much better individual origin career maybe never as good as 2005 john's but was almost as good many times

Johns. Love JT. But Johns was a level above JT.

@baileygilbert4766

2 жыл бұрын

You not love JT cause you disrespect him by saying Johns is on another level then him, Come on the gap between JT & Johns is much more closer then “another level” & I am going with JT just tho, Rugby league World Cups: Johns wins JT: 1 Johns: 2 NRL Championships: draw JT: 2 Johns: 2 Dally Ms awards: JT wins JT: 4 Johns: 3 Golden boots awards: JT wins JT: 3 Johns: 2 Dally M halfback of the year awards: draw JT: 4 Johns: 4 See it’s close.

JT... his accolades and awards surpassed Johns. The game in Thurston's era was much faster, tougher, complex, modernised and evolved around team work rather than slower one man centred game in John's era. I don't think this kind of comparison can be made because the eras were different

@TheRjw18

Жыл бұрын

You must be young. Joey wiped the floor with thurston, smith and slater at origin level.

Thurston was good, Johns was great!

Unlike JT, Johns was a complete player. JT was a turnstile in defence his entire career. Johns passed better Created holes in the defence better Kicking in general play was better

@minyatawilson3095

Жыл бұрын

Did drugs better, had more injuries, and was fatter too.

Thurston...but they were both great....Thurston had a longer period at the top...

Cleary be watching bro I can do better when I am their age

What do the stats say bout these 2,put the stats up,stats speak more than words.

I came to know Joey in 97' and back then closely watched NRL games because of him until he retired. After his retirement, I don't watch NRL anymore sorry😊.

Nathan Cleary now …..: no question whatsoever

Was that deleted? Interesting standards...

JT was a great player but was always number 6 in rep honors behind cooper , John's was a all out half except in his early rep games were he played dummy half. if its out of these two players , JOHN'S by a whisker.

Joey then Sterlo! Cant understand how JT is even in the same conversation. Joey tackled like a forward and JT couldn’t tackle to save his life.

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Barge-ass couldn't even keep up with the speed of today's game, he'd been down and injured in the first ten minutes. Too many injuries cause he was fat. JT wins

You really can't compare eras, every generation has one or two players that standout from the rest. 80s Sterlo Late 80s early 90s Langer Stuart Late 90s2000s Joey Late 2000s 2010s Thurston Cronk Last 5 years Cleary

Nathan cleary

What about the Englishman Alex Murphy ? Anyone who can beat Johnny Raper must have been good.

Has to be Andrew the killer Johns love from New Zealand who happens to support QLD and the mighty Raiders