A shame Enterprise didn't get a 5th season. They were finally getting it on track with 3 and 4.

@barbarusbloodshed6347

5 жыл бұрын

Yepp. The decision to end that show seems rather irrational considering that all ST series before needed 3 full seasons to find their footing. First two seasons of Next Generation are just awkward, the writing isn't that good, the characters aren't fleshed out yet, the effects look bad... and it got better during the 3rd season but only in season 4 it got to the quality we think back to, when we think of that show. Same with DS9 and Voyager. First two seasons DS9 were quite boring. The 3rd season picked up the pace a little, but again - in season 4 it finally found its voice. Voyager had a slightly better start, if you ask me, the first three seasons weren't written all too well, but at least they were interesting with a lot of new races, places and lore introduced. Then it got quite good during seasons 4 and 5, then dropped again during seasons 6 and 7. Considering this Enterprise actually had a better start than any of those, because season 3 of Enterprise was what season 4 was for the other shows. If Enterprise had continued it might have been the best of all the ST shows.

@mrbojangles8133

5 жыл бұрын

the problem being that at that you just don't time anymore and this was also the case then, you get less and less time to find your footing

@jonathonearl482

5 жыл бұрын

Well, I actually liked the first two seasons the best. Not that the last two were bad. or anything. I just believe that the story arc of the first two seasons should have remained the premise of the overall show. The first two seasons were about exploration. Seasons 3 and 4 should have been seasons 7 and 8. The seasons in between should have also been about deep space exploration and technology development.

@jamzjamz7597

5 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. They went a bit heavy on the time travel stuff but otherwise found their stride by season 3

@edsr164

4 жыл бұрын

Agree, but I think they would have to make seasons 5 snd 6 to show the Earth-Romulan war

It was Alex Kurtzman trying to screw with the timeline again.

@bobbrown3667

5 жыл бұрын

Now it all makes sense

@streaky81

5 жыл бұрын

Good job multiverse theory is established canon in Star Trek else we'd be in all kinds of trouble.

@bigevil1001

4 жыл бұрын

You beat me too it! Damn you!

@orvilleredenpiller338

3 жыл бұрын

This is now my headcanon.

It isn' like Scott Bakula hasn't had some experience with these kinds of shenanigans.

@johnricci4511

5 жыл бұрын

"Oh boy!"

@kevinsitton3109

4 жыл бұрын

He even had memory issues in the last season.

@pens8766

3 жыл бұрын

And we even got to see the round house kick one time.

@timonsolus

3 жыл бұрын

@Curzon Dax : I disagree. I thought Archer was a good halfway house between Lovell of NASA’s Apollo 13 (civilian explorer), and Kirk of TOS (military officer). Enterprise began with a very NASA-like vibe in Season 1, and ended with a very TOS-like feel by Season 4 (Archer being very disillusioned, and even traumatised, at being forced to change from explorer to soldier.)

@mr.fighter2618

3 жыл бұрын

“You did it John! You changed history!”

it's a shame Enterprise didn't reach 4 more seasons!

@promnightdumpsterbaby9553

5 жыл бұрын

Would have liked to see shran have his own star fleet ship

@aerospacecadet9781

5 жыл бұрын

In the Novelization he became an Admiral in the Federation.

@lexingtonduncan3732

5 жыл бұрын

As long as it wouldn‘t be 4 more season 4‘s. Because that was the worst Enterprise season. All those 3-episode story arcs that felt like isolated TV movies. Horrific.

@charliegruchy530

5 жыл бұрын

it did not because it was so bad

@jonathonearl482

5 жыл бұрын

@@charliegruchy530 The only thing bad about it in my opinion was the fact that the show should have mainly been about exploring than war. By this show being based on the Pre-Warp Era, you'd want to see more deep space exploration of unknown space phenomena, planets, alien civilizations and technology. Instead, the show turned into 24th century Star Trek rather quickly. Star Trek Enterprise didn't stray far and was rather close in style to Voyager, DS9 and TNG.

I actually enjoyed this show, it had that nostalgic 90's feel but it ages well. Some episodes are so fun and not corny like the older shows.

@destinycaptain247

5 жыл бұрын

Marco Cazares - And yet it was made in the 2000’s.

@morrisho6450

Жыл бұрын

More like late 90s-early 2000s vibe

I remember dialog in the first episode that future guy and his people didn't want to involve the Klingons,... or the Humans, so it doesn't make sense that it was originally intended to be Archer.

@sanghelian

5 жыл бұрын

Not to mention how the early plots by him were very lethal towards archer and his crew

@joaopedrogoncalves7741

3 жыл бұрын

Being Archer never made any sense to me

If Future guy IS Archer, then one has to ask a second, profoundly interesting question: Did he succeed? We don't know if he ever actually intended for the Sulibans to succeed in their missions? Perhaps he was purposfully setting them up to fail in order for his past self to suceed in his missions? Let's assume "alternate Archer" knows about Daniels. Perhaps he even had similar missions with Daniels aswell. He might even had gotten enough knowledge about Daniels temporal agency as to manipulate events so that he knew Daniels would recruit his past self and thus having the events unfold as we see in the show. Hell, it might even have ended up being a time loop. Archer realises that he has to become Future guy in order to insure that his past self shows up to stop the Sulibans, leeding to the end of the temporal cold war AND eventually the founding of the federation.

I get the feeling Braga said Archer just to stop people asking all the time.

@jasonbourneistreadstone

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah.. No way "Future Guy" was ever Archer. Makes little to no sense. Daniels specifically said he was from about 2 centuries earlier (29th century) when he was talking to Archer in the temporal observatory in his quarters.

This series ended too soon. Only 4 seasons, and it was a really great show! Maybe if it went to 7 seasons, the mystery of the future man would've been revealed.

@jasonbourneistreadstone

5 жыл бұрын

We can thank the bean-counter (now gone) Les Moonves for that. This is the same guy who literally doesn't know the difference between Star Wars and Star Trek.. Ratings were okay. And the show had really hit it's stride by Season 4. I wanted more. So many possibilities and questions left unanswered. They were coming right up to the Earth-Romulan war too.

@kimothy1701

5 жыл бұрын

I think Season 3 with the Xindi spoiled it as it was too long and should have lasted around half the time it did, then reverted back to “single stand” alone episodes as they did for season 4.

@ghenulo

5 жыл бұрын

I doubt it. The temporal cold war ended at the beginning of season 4 and wasn't brought up again through the rest of the season, and probably wouldn't have been through the remaining three.

@lamarravery4094

5 жыл бұрын

@@kimothy1701 You can thank the 9/11 terrorists attack for that story arc.

@jessstuart7495

5 жыл бұрын

I always suspected it might be one of the "Founders" trying to influence (prevent) the development of the Federation.

Future Guy is Michael Burnham. Everything is Michael Burnham. The whole universe revolves around Michael Burnham. I kid...but not by much. Discovery season 3 will take place in the 31st century. So.....there's that.

@DanielBrown-sn9op

5 жыл бұрын

Many Trekkers just want Commander Burnham to just go away...... Sadly

@ChewyChicken589

3 жыл бұрын

@@DanielBrown-sn9op yeah, where is that oil slick that killed Yar when you need it?

I always thought that the future guy was Braxton from Voyager. He’s a 29th century federation captain that goes rogue, and in the novels Picard and Kirk have to stop him from messing up the Kitamar accords.

Admiral Archer turns off the view screen falling back in his chair. “I told them not to name it Enterprise. It makes it sound like some sort of lucrative venture. That’s not who we are anymore.” It is revealed that a theatrical documentary was made of his time on the NX01. “That’s not really how ... doesn’t this cheapen what we’ve accomplished?” Archers query goes unanswered. “The man doesn’t look anything like me!”

While watching Enterprise during it's run, I always felt Future Guy was Archer and that ultimately, what he accomplished would be the Prime timeline from TOS without some of the inconsistencies that Enterprise introduced.

@ekimnosredna

5 жыл бұрын

Brian Povolo if you have the blu-rays and watch the extras. That is exactly what they were considering doing with him before the cancellation.

@bpovolo

5 жыл бұрын

@@ekimnosredna , I don't have the blu-rays, although I'd love to see what was said. I always liked that they were able to deviate from the Prime timeline and had this ace in their back pocket. Unfortunately, audiences don't seem to have the patience for a long term payout or resolution.

@jerelo175

5 жыл бұрын

Brian Povolo but tos has more inconsistencies than enterprise does

It was Jar Jar Abrams messing with the Star Trek timeline.

@BeckettSong

5 жыл бұрын

@Shawn Powell In Star Trek Federation: The First 150 Years(book written by David A. Goodman) there is a Klingon "Wanted" ad that placed a price on Archer's head.

@darthXreven

5 жыл бұрын

@Shawn Powell you mean Marvel, he's doing a friggin Spider-Man book.....ugh i refuse to watch anything with JJ's name attached or Bad Robot for that matter the man fails upwards, he's a cultural locust....he's a virus....he attaches to things, changes things by 20% then moves on after a few minutes leaving one of his flunkies behind and attaches to something else and does the same thing, replicating like a friggin virus, by now he's so embedded that it's gonna be hard removing the f**ker..... maybe he is doing something with DC too, IDK, I just heard the Spidey thing..... i say we need to hold Stephen Spielberg accountable cus it was he who unleashed the Jar Jar Abrams Battle Tank on us..... there's way too many hack morons in Burningwood that need to be uprooted and until that happens we all need to be wary of what entertainment we take in....

@Jokie155

5 жыл бұрын

It was the utter idiocy of Insurrection and Nemesis that killed Trek then. And now fans are killing it today. Good job.

@darthXreven

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jokie155 while there is truth to that, thiose 2 movies are still leagues better than STD so yeah.....JJ still killed Trek, the TNG movies merely damaged Star Trek....they coulda fixed things if they had switched over to DS9 or Voyager.... I think exploring the aftermath of those 2 shows could be fun....

@michaelmclaughlin261

5 жыл бұрын

Holy cow that makes so much sense.

I recognized the actor playing the mystery guy from his voice, he played a couple other roles in other Trek series before but I assumed he was a Romulan in the future because of the shape of his uniform. Those shoulder pads were very Romulan.

@alekzgavriel-russo7453

3 жыл бұрын

Yeh he played a Jem'Hadar soldier and a few other minor roles. I also assume it was a Romulan, makes tons of sense.

@FrauIndian

7 ай бұрын

Those shoulder pads are distinct. Romulan?

@Willpower-74205

2 ай бұрын

James Horan. He also played Jo'Bril in TNG "Suspicions," Lt. Barnaby in "Descent Part II," Ikat'ika in DS9 "In Purgatory's Shadow" and "By Inferno's Light," and Tosin in Voyager "Fair Trade." 🖖😎👍

It was Dr. Sam Beckett ... or Al

@ericbukley2140

5 жыл бұрын

"OH BOY!!"

@nuckenfuts7750

5 жыл бұрын

Al why haven’t I leaped yet.

@kimothy1701

5 жыл бұрын

Uncle Honkler because everything went a little kaka

@darthXreven

5 жыл бұрын

the irony is Dean Stockton was in an episode of Enterprise, one of the best episodes too...

@Playboyyrocky

5 жыл бұрын

I remember that episode lol

Star Trek Online has a great story on the topic.

@isaned

5 жыл бұрын

STO has great stories and they actually pay attention to the source material and follow up stories that were never touched on again. They should be the ones who should be making a star trek show, not the idiots running discovery.

@erikhawkke4861

5 жыл бұрын

@@isaned and even as much as I truly dislike DIS, STO even managed to make that content.. tolerable.

The Agents of Yesterday expansion from the game Star Trek Online in 2016 also explores who Future Guy was. In their canon he turned out to be a rogue former member of the Krenim Imperium names Noye.

@shauntempley9757

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Tied directly into the Iconian War, too. The Sphere Builders also come from there as well, since his wife and her planet get erased during a time test that goes wrong. Really cool since it is very Star Trek how all that went down.

@JohnBachofer

5 жыл бұрын

@@shauntempley9757 On top of that the Iconian War's connection to the Kelvin Timeline in which the Sphere Builders also have influence in the mission "Terminal Expanse". How the Iconians were behind the Supernova that destroyed Romulus and the Narada's subsequent arrival in that universe. I've said this directly to STO's dev team many times but it bears repeating. Despite being soft canon Star Trek Online's story is its strongest selling point. As it ties all the lore together from the supernova to Future Guy to the Dominion pretty tightly.

@thewewguy8t88

5 жыл бұрын

It's a real shame that star trek online is quite frankly worse then anthem or at least it was during launch. The story really does look like its it's a contunation of everything that tng to Voyager established. But again its a shame that everything else about the game is crap :/ swtor at the very least has superb story telling well at the very least being a very average morpg but star trek online does not succeed at even being an average rpg despite its story telling.

@shauntempley9757

5 жыл бұрын

@@thewewguy8t88 Yeah, But when it does it right, like The Iconian War, Agents of Yesterday and Victory Is Life and many other story arcs, it delivers. I do not care about graphics or other things when I am travelling around a galaxy that I know well, and can stop at a planet or Nebula and recall memories I have of stories or character moments. It is awesome to stop at Nukara Nebula and reminisce about that amazing Kirk vs Kahn battle, or going to the Briar Patch and recall Rikers bonkers maneuver, then wondering where the story goes next while I am sitting in my Enterprise F T6 class ship, while watching other players zip past on their own adventures. It is a really awesome feeling, one that I feel is unique to this game.

@thewewguy8t88

5 жыл бұрын

@@shauntempley9757 honestly to me it did always feel like the tng eara was kind of limited to only showing us the "super powers" of the quardent. They never really showed us anything really alien like and even when they did it felt like a footnote oh with some exceptions but I mean the Borg just become a super power. Heck in 2 of the games they are just another faction to play as.

I was never crazy about the temporal cold war story arc.

@TrekCentral

5 жыл бұрын

Some loved it, others not so much. Personally, I think they jumped into it too early in Enterprise. - Jack

I thought that it was a Section 31 agnt pushing tmporal buttons to make the Federation there in the 31st Century react to ensure that the Federation would indeed exist, creating the Temporal Cold War was just the means to unveil the malevolent factions that wanted to use it against the Federation in the first place. At least that's how I was seeing that when I thought about it.

I HEARD HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUTURE ARCHER...

@thewewguy8t88

5 жыл бұрын

The guy did turn out to be archer at one point.

@ekimnosredna

5 жыл бұрын

Chantz S they were I just watched the extras on the Blu-Rays and that was the case

@roobear78

5 жыл бұрын

yip it was meant to be a future version of archer trying to fix a corrupt future

@jasonowens1551

5 жыл бұрын

Me too

@mememe853

5 жыл бұрын

Veronika ,

As a Quantum Leap fan, it still feels wrong seeing Sam Beckett dealing with Bad Al. Maybe future guy was Ziggy in humanoid form.

@TrekCentral

5 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@Bistonounou123

5 жыл бұрын

Yea and holding a similar hand held device, like it was some sort of nod to quantum leap .

I thought it was Romulan which tried save his planet from destruction. Also he manipulated time so Romulane Empire became one force which rules the galaxy.

Funny... I kinda had suspicion that the 'Future guy' was a future version of Archer (maybe from alternative universe).

I recognize the voice of Future Guy. It is the same actor that played the Vulcan that was holding back Starfleet.

Well I don't know who the future benefactor was supposed to have been, but the voice was that of Peter Weller IMO (aka 1987 Robocop actor, and also played a Martian Colonist mine owner on one of the last episodes of Enterprise I believe). It wasn't Scott Bakula's voice that's for sure!

@RS-ls7mm

5 жыл бұрын

I agree, very distinctive.

@walmartpimp2

Жыл бұрын

Admiral Marcus is Future Guy!

At the time, I thought it must be a character we already knew because his identity was obscured.

The creators had no idea who Future Guy was. Heck they didn't even come up with his name, Future Guy is attributed (possibly falsely) to the reviewer SF Debris and the creators just started using it. According to MA he could have been a Romulan or Future Archer or anything, the creators had ideas but nothing concrete. Kinda like all of Enterprise.

@thewewguy8t88

5 жыл бұрын

Yes here is the thing I think it's a risk to go into a story arc without knowing where you want to take it. But in this case its clear it's a risk that did not pay off :/

Future guy was supposed to be a future version of Archer from a timeline where everything fell apart and the Federation never existed. It was intended to be a dark reflection of Scott Bakula's character from Quantum Leap.

I do kind of like the idea of the humanoid benefactor being Johnathan Archer since we see Archer impersonating him in one of the episodes.

So that fan edit of Sam leaping out of Archer at the end of Enterprise wouldn't have been far off...

Wish I could remember how cannon Star Trek Online is, because they reveal who Future Guy is in there.

I always thought the future guy was going to end up being an earlier or later timeline Admiral Forrest - I was absolutely convinced - until he died in the bombing of the Earth Embassy on Vulcan. I was disappointed that my deductions turned out to be all wrong!

I figured this when Silik couldn't reach his contact after Archer was stranded in the past.

There was an interview, I forget when I saw it but the producers said that if the series moved forward into a future season. They would have revealed it was a future version of Archer that was Future Guy.

Thought it was a future version of Daniels. Pretty sure that's how it plays out in STO.

@mattp2557

5 жыл бұрын

It's another character but don't want to spoil it for you if you intend on playing that story

It was one of the Star Trek Discovery writers trying to change the timeline to make the show fit into canon

Love the channel

Other than the Guardian of Forever, Gary7&Roberta Lincoln should still be active making sure that the timeline is mostly preserved. They work for the Aegis and should had taken steps to make sure that changes to the timeline is reduced.

The answer is Michael Burnham. The answer is always Michael Burnham.

@bobbrown3667

5 жыл бұрын

Mikey Spock at work again

I dont think it was archer, unless he's future self somehow went way into the future. The tech the future guy has and uses is far past archers lifetime. It has to be someone closer to Daniel's time. At least that's what I think.

@johnnyfreespeech5815

Жыл бұрын

I agree. It makes little to no sense to me that the time traveler could be Archer. As for Braga claiming that it was in fact intended to be Archer, I’m reminded of George Lucas claiming to have completely planned all of Star Wars out as a twelve movie saga and we all know that is bullsh*t.

So it would've been Archer? I would've preferred some malevolent alien.

@blackrazer22

5 жыл бұрын

Archer makes the most sense otherwise why hide his identity.

@Sephiroth144

5 жыл бұрын

@@blackrazer22 why would a time-traveling- well, time-communicating criminal/antagonist reveal his identity? Remember, he was being hunted by various other Temporal factions- I know I'd do everything to keep whatever info about myself secret in that circumstance...

@blackrazer22

5 жыл бұрын

@@Sephiroth144 I'm not taking within the story, but as a story telling technique. The only reason to hide his identity from the TV viewer is for big reveal later. If future guy was just some alien, no point in hiding it from the audience.

Great video! I enjoyed the Star Trek Online Temporal Cold War with the Krenim scientist Noye filling a similarly shady role as Envoy. But I'd always wondered just who the guy was Enterprise.

So while Star Trek online isn't hard Canon it is licensed and CBS has gone through some length to ensure, especially with new discovery content that there is acceptable degrees of consistency with the current and past story arcs, with the new expansion going so far as to be a side story of the ongoing series. That being said, STO is somewhere above the extended universe and somewhere below the serieses in terms of story expansion and canonicity. While the books and literature scatter amidst various authors and versions of events, STO unifies a lot of the serieses loose ends into something meaningful in very surprising and satisfying ways. Future man per this storyline is actually A Krenim (Year of hell). As the captain in online during the war with the Iconians, the alliance (federation, Klingons, New Romulan republic) realize the only way they will defeat the Iconians is using temporal technology, as the Iconians by nature are weak to chroniton fields and temporal energy and by this nature incapable of time travel. Having previously ventured into the Delta quadrant to make new alliances and fight the Vaaduar, the alliance turns to the Krenim who for some time had been experimenting with time travel. During a test you unwittingly banish an entire species from The timeline. While everyone is knows unaware of this, the lead Krenim researcher somehow figures out through temporally shielded data that his wife is gone. His wife is a member of the banished species who become the sphere builders. Now banished to another realm they sell vengeance across time with the federation, as does the Krenim scientist. Basically you as the player started the whole damn thing. I recommend a playthrough of the Delta, Iconians, and New Frontier storylines.

Didn't Star Trek Online reveal his identity as a Krenim who lost his wife and faction in the Iconian war?

@ravinraven6913

5 жыл бұрын

#1 STO is not Canon and #2 since STO is not real(canon) his identity is not what you stated. Meaning Iconians were destroyed after a orbital bombardment of their planet 200,000 years ago(im presuming that's from the last star trek movie with Nero and the Remans.) So who is he? it does not matter.....hes from the future and his identity is never revealed, meaning he would have ceased to exist making the whole thing pointless, as far as history is concerned.

@A5traTheSuccubus

5 жыл бұрын

@@ravinraven6913 Star Trek Online is generally considered Canon and is pretty much Canon since Eaglemoss released a model of the Enterprise F which is now, for the most part, Canon.

Thank you!!! What a strange coincidence, just yesterday I finished reading the Rise of the Federation novels and I was wondering what happened to Future Guy cause I read somewhere that they revealed his identity in the novels but now I know it's in a DTI novel not in an Enterprise relaunch novel... I'll have to read that one too.

Star Trek Online has the best storylines forward of ST Voyager. He's a Krenim trying to bring back his wife's race in the war against the Iconians. His wife's race turned into the sphere builders.

It’s Michael Burnham. The entirety of the known universe is now about Michael Burnham and Sonequa doing her best sad face.

Thanks capt Jack xx

In Star Trek Online, he's Noye or Envoy, a Krenim Scientist.

The story of the Future Guy is from what origin? I've read the ENT Novels til "Rise of the Federation - 3" and there is no one like him. Also in the novels of TNG, DS9 or Typhon Pact, Destiny or Titan...

My personal headcanon was that he was a Romulan, and this is before the whole JJ Trek stuff with the stellar explosion so he’d be doing it to make the empire greater and in part to mitigate the other temporal factions actions.

I thought it sounded like peter weller allot

I like your idea of captain Archer being the future guy. The voice sounded like him

Anyone know if Rick Berman and Brannon Braga are still involved in Star Trek?

It's the guy with the cat from the original series...

@aerospacecadet9781

5 жыл бұрын

Gary Seven... very plausible.

@litchtheshinigami8936

3 жыл бұрын

It’s always the guy with the cat

Do we know who provided the voice? It always sounded like Soval (Gary Graham) to me.

Its James Horan, Who was Dr Jobril in a TNG episode, his character was supposed to be explained in the fifth season but they never got to it

Thanks to KZread l have been able to watch the series four times and has become my second favorite with the top nod going to the original.

i liked how star trek online wrapped up some of the series wide time travel episodes..like the one with the ship the suliban and tholians wanted..

@TrekCentral

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed! STO's story is very cool when it comes to linking in! - Jack

@TheNakorius

5 жыл бұрын

@@TrekCentral to bad your crew doesnt play it , you could do some episodes on this site..

It would have neen good if it was the Romulan "Tomalek' from TNG. A great link to an obsessive enemy

When Archer came through the future guy's time portal that did it for me. Only way it would be possible

The future guy was Picard. ;)

He was michael burnham from the future

@ambarcraft4476

5 жыл бұрын

Damn you was faster than me :-P

@veronika4870

5 жыл бұрын

XD

@alexanderjones9572

5 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing you're joking, because anyone who's watched any Discovery knows Michael Burnham is a woman!

@ambarcraft4476

5 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderjones9572 Why couldn't future guy be woman maybe?

@alexanderjones9572

5 жыл бұрын

Ambar Craft Maybe, now you say that! I was going on the assumption it was a man! Actually, they do call the benefactor 'he' though, so...

I think it's Riker, or his transporter double. Riker played the role of chef in his holodeck program.

Archer being the ‘future guy’ is too silly.

Haven't watched the video yet but I always thought he seemed Vulcan/Romulan-y.

Future Guy was J. J. Abrams who sought to drastically change Star Trek canon.

Krenim researcher called Noye. Big temporal story arc in STO

Gary Seven my dudes 😎👌🏻

Considering Archer was a host of a Vulcan Katra - was shown on screen to able to "easily" beat up Vulcanoids - I tend to think that he is on a path (fulfilled or not) to be a rather singular being potentially. A little bit Klingon and a little Bit Human Augment, very long lived for his time, and with that mental influence of Vulcan's greatest Son on him. It does suggest he was potentially some sort of Mackenvie Calhoun level super hero. If that went a bit pair shaped and add in some Suliban and Romulan influence you'd have something not that far away from the Beta-Canon future guy. But if you want to have some fun you can say that the bad Future Archer wanted to correct is much the same one Burnham's Momma was so paranoid about.

6:17 yea I agree with you that future guy being Archer would have cause alot of problems...I wonder if there had been a season 5 if Braga said would have to come past as they seem to moving away from him after the second season and the Temporal cold war after the 3rd season. To be clear I am not saying he is lying, it was likely just one of the ideas floating around the writing room if they got renewed to somehow connect future guy with Archer.

@amazedsatsuma

5 жыл бұрын

@430Recmove Off the top of my head is that future guy was suppose to be from the 28th century and they implied in the Shockwave 2 parter that taking Archer into the future wrecks the timeline... through I grant you that became less firm as the show went on as Archer was able to visit the ENT-J just fine. Generally ENT...like the other Trek shows of that era didn't really plan out multi-season plot threads. For example Julian Bashir from DS9 wasn't originally planed to genetically altered...it was actually a last minute change to "Doctor Bashir, I Presume" It was just different time were they air part one of a cliff hanger, but with little idea how the story will be concluded.

He was the alien bounty hunter from the X-Files

I don't know if I'm right but the "Envoy" in Star Trek Online turns out to be Noye (from a time traveling Delta quadrant species) who was also time traveling and helping the enemys of the federation and he does this because he doesn't want the temporal accords to be signed (since his species loves to time travel) so I guess he wanted to deal whit the federation even before it was founded. Note: this is just a theory since idk if the Envoy is the same as Future Guy

@cappypolaron7127

5 жыл бұрын

Also, the Federation caused Noye's wife and unborn child to cease to exist when they used time travel in a failed mission in an earlier STO story - a temporally shielded memory core contained her logs, informing Noye about her prior existence in the new timeline. By erasing the Federation, he was hoping to get his family back - similar to the motivations of another Krenim, Annorax, in Voyager's 'Year of Hell' episodes.

thats basically braga looking at half a decades worth of fan theories, chosing his favourite one and then saying "yeah, thats what we planned all along". yeah right :)

sounded like that actor Gary Graham who played that Soval

@danarseti

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, the actor that played Future Guy has been in Star Trek before; specifically STTNG episode about the Metaphasic shield that a Ferengi created. I think his name was Jobril and Beverly shot a hole in his chest while on board a shuttlecraft. Also, he was a Lt. on the bridge, while Crusher was in command, and sparing against a young female ensign although they ultimately got along. Sorry, I can't think of either eps title or the actor's name.

@lasarith2

5 жыл бұрын

Matt Mayse jame Horan

@oldtwinsna8347

5 жыл бұрын

@@danarseti It was James Horan. He was actually one of the finalist for the role of Riker.

How did I not know he had a Trek channel?!

The Future Guy is the offspring of Sheldon Cooper and Amy Farrah Fowler. And I really like Enterprise which should have got another season or two.

If extended you me made up,Brannon Braga has said in many interviews after the show went off the air future guy was supposed to be a future Archer, it's all over the internet and reddit.

@kal0247

5 жыл бұрын

Mike DeMarco I'm guessing you didn't read or understand my post,one of the producers from the show Brannon Braga said if it went another season the future guy was gonna be a future Archer and I'm not sure about you but I'll take the word of a show's producer over Daniel's 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️so no Acher is not out,do your research.

@Pixxeria

5 жыл бұрын

@@kal0247 maybe he's just a bad writer and couldn't care less

@kal0247

5 жыл бұрын

Marcos Nogueira That doesn't make sense

I agree. Romulans are always zenophopic & play the long game. E.g. spock & the reunification play they tried.

First thought on my own is, without the United Federation of Planets, he wouldnt exist... and i feel hes connected to Romulan star empire well with what happend before the end of 24th century. An the romulan republic.

@XHunter442

5 жыл бұрын

i also heard of archer but forgot.. would make sense since he would be affected but not like someone else.. cause he would have came back no matter what cause he knows what he would have done.. so i still think it would be someone else and influenced by a federation presence... of some kind.

The Memory Alpha site mentions a quote from one of the writers revealing that Future Guy was, at one point, a future version of Archer. I love this idea on a couple different levels because it acknowledges in-story the failures of the ship's mission as well as the show itself.

I always thought it was going to be Archer, for some reason...

I heard so many theories about who Future Guy was going to be. At one point, I heard it was going to be James T. Kirk, and that William Shatner was going to play the role.

If the time war was being fought between people in different time periods, wouldn't the first ones automatically win since they wouldn't need to use time travel to waltz over and nuke their opponents while they were still grunting and contemplating fire?

Based on the voice and the character's hostility, I thought from the beginning it was Ambassador Gary Graham.

It's pretty much redundant as it's all just a holo-recording being watched by Riker and Troy 🖖🏻

@eamonndoherty9945

5 жыл бұрын

Good point. I cant believe i forgot about that monstrosity. Lol

A eugenicist using time-travel to manipulate the past in order to create a master race is a brilliant sci-fi idea! You could even use that as the excuse for why most sentient species are humanoid, though I suspect that wouldn’t work in Trek what with the ancient aliens in The Chase.

It was this guy Witness - Liberty Mutual Insurance Commercial.

I'm disappointed that the version from Star Trek Online wasn't mentioned. "Extended Canon" is certainly vast, but it would have been appreciated if it was acknowledged. Also, the team was actually in contact with staff from PICARD, so some of those elements could become actual canon

@TrekCentral

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Gene, I don’t tend to explore STO, as that is set in its own technical universe as well. Could you link me the source of them talking to the Picard team?

Star Trek Online had a pretty cool origin for him as well

Loved Star Trek Enterprise...

I always thought that it was the Romulans

Would have been great if it was revealed that FG was Soval or Forrest.

@TrekCentral

5 жыл бұрын

Would have been a shocking twist, though sadly we did lose Admiral Forrest in Season 4.

If only we had a Future guy come warn us about Discovery, maybe Enterprise would of gotten more appreciation and more seasons.

Archer becoming the humanoid figure would have been interesting if they brought the idea of temporal sickness into it and that he eventually got sent through time enough due to the temporal Cold War that it caused his personality to fracture. Also he quickened the end of the Temporal Cold War so he wouldn't get sick, but also hoped in stopping the Federation from being bad because they became the temporal agents that recruited him.

We have at least 4 half known fractions involved in the temporal cold war and you can trust none of them. If I was a timetraveler I would tell you everything to reach my goal.

About the Future Guy, if he was against the Federation and United Earth, then a good story idea would've been that he was trying to have Humanity become an imperialist power that embraced genetic engineering and that he tried to aid Paxton and the Terra Prime movement somehow in taking over Humanity.

@johntrevy1

4 жыл бұрын

Makes me wonder if Daniels was genetically enhanced/engineered. Archer:"Are you human?" Daniels: "More or less".

Archer?? NO. That's an odd nod to Quantum Leap.

Knew it was archer since that seen in shockwave