Who Is The Best British Rapper Of All Time? | The Complex UK Debate
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Who is the best British rapper of all time? Complex UK put together an illustrious panel of Tiffany Calver, Joseph 'JP' Patterson, Mimi The Music Blogger, Flashy Sillah, Hyperfrank, TSB, Big Man Yus to figure it out once and for all.
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it's actually mad that dizzee isn't on the list. how can he not be top 10? lyrical ability - can't be disputed impact and influence - he made grime take off body of work - boy in da corner is the greatest album in UK MC history. not only did he that, and maths + english, he then branched out and bonkers, holiday ans dance wiv me. who else has had pop bangers, club bangers and the best grime album? no one longevity - he's still a headliner whereever he goes after 2 decades
@mikefraziermusic
6 ай бұрын
Dizzee not being in the top 10 is actually crazy. He was most Americans entry to UK rap
@vanman757
6 ай бұрын
I know & Wretch 32 ?! Though, they are both mentioned by the people at the end...
@scarzwr
6 ай бұрын
You know what you have made me clocked, most of our top rap artists only have like 2-3 ALBUMS/Project then it’s usually 1 album that either did well commercially or we loved it. It’s after Boy In The Corner he hasn’t had another cultural album like dat. Same for Kano, Giggs etc…
@mrhussain9008
6 ай бұрын
Lyrically poor compared to Wretch, Devlin, Dave etc. The rest of the categories he is top tier though
@Dyenosaur00
6 ай бұрын
Lowkey is top 3
A top 10 without Wretch is crazy
@ogloc8405
Ай бұрын
And nines🤦🏾♂️
D Double E and Dizzee should've made top 10.
Rodney P, Skinnyman, Blade, Roots Manuva, to name a few. There were UK rappers LONGGGGG before this bunch 😅
@jayjai6914
6 ай бұрын
Lool rodney p, come on mate thats old school no one on da streets was listening to that
@london8615
6 ай бұрын
skinnyman, proper legend they got him in the top 50
@theminstryoftruth61
6 ай бұрын
@@jayjai6914 Because no one has a sense of history
@andersongooding6703
6 ай бұрын
These don't know real uk rap. They're children
@lsi01
6 ай бұрын
Klashnekoff. Jehst. Skinnyman.
Ghetts is top 3 selected irrespective of who is on that list 🤷♂
@nicolewilliams3434
6 ай бұрын
No. 1 or No. 2.
@mrmrmusic123
6 ай бұрын
@@nicolewilliams3434 💯literally 1 or 2 there’s no 3 about it! Ahah
No mention of Benny Banks is crazy
@user-mz3ni8yu4v
6 ай бұрын
He's nowhere near top 10 but he should be top 50
I’m confused to how Nines didn’t make top 10
For me ghetts is the best too ever touch mic n I say that with chest !!!! No one’s doing it like him my guys deserves all the flowers
@nicolewilliams3434
6 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏
@bigrowdzx3796
6 ай бұрын
Defo top 3!!
@grmav2900
6 ай бұрын
@@bigrowdzx3796 trust me man need put respect on his name
@Dyenosaur00
6 ай бұрын
Ghetts is fire but Lowkey is the best to ever come out of the UK
@grmav2900
6 ай бұрын
@@Dyenosaur00 I hear that but ghetts technically ability is out of the world I do rate lowkey always comes with the truth but with ghetts just way he says the worlds n his schemes are mental it’s like watching a magician at work
Thank you to the team at Complex for posting this video today! I was just told that I have a non cancerous brain tumor which I did surgery for yesterday. This video has really brightened my day!
@nicolewilliams3434
6 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@victormurillo6956
6 ай бұрын
Get well soon man
@mikeklondike7218
6 ай бұрын
hope you good
Dizzee Rascal outside the top 10 (he’s number 13) is craaaaaaazy to ME. Am I the only one?
@vanman757
6 ай бұрын
No, you're not mate... 😲
@mertnnatzpage7314
2 ай бұрын
Nah blud crazy (T) innit
Save everyone the time Skepta is number 1
@carlingtonmusic
6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@rivquah
6 ай бұрын
Lol
@brodogoks2526
6 ай бұрын
Where was dizzee
@dwaynecheatom6859
6 ай бұрын
It's actually Slick Rick
@tonythetiger1600
6 ай бұрын
Wileys better
Cute list and all, but Kano is the UNDISPUTED UK GOAT
I'm glad Chip got the respect he deserves ❤
@ogloc8405
Ай бұрын
Chip not fw Dave
If Kano is #2, Ghetts should most definitely be Top 3, and Wretch should be in the Top 10 🤷🏽♂️
Dizzee arguably 2 of the top British grime / rap albums of all time and not on the list . In the UK we don’t really value body of work
@MozzieMutant
6 ай бұрын
They don’t claim the UK like that tbh
@bigslim5847
6 ай бұрын
Nah dizzee fell off
Skepta is great he is the one who got me into listening to UK Rap and digging into grime music , but I’m also from California so it’s little different on this side of the coast
UK rap is better than anything Americans are putting out rn🤷🏾♂️
@StylistecS
5 ай бұрын
😂 even in a video where it discusses the best rappers ever from the UK, America is still brought up. That means America is still the main blueprint in hip hop. The main character. The crème de la crème of hip hop.
Please, I beg you. When having a conversation this important please have the mic, acoustics and sound of a high level.
NINES!!! Y’all don’t big him up like dat
Mad how no one in the video or comments has said the name Lowkey. Hands down the best in both delivery and content. Should be number 1
uk and london is not ready for such a conversation to truthfully take place
Would love to hear the top ten artists state their top ten artists.
I saw this concept first via Chuckie online
MF DOOM and Slick Rick. Ain’t no comparison
@Marnz42
6 ай бұрын
They should of been on the list
@leerdj
6 ай бұрын
Born in britain but they aint british lets be honest. If the list was british-born rappers it would be very different
@summerskillz
6 ай бұрын
21 Savage🔥
@kennethch9549
3 ай бұрын
They are considered American rappers like 21 Savage
@paixao26
Ай бұрын
@@summerskillzu funny
Dizzee not making it is wild
Wiley at 9 and No Dizee at all is wild. In what world is Ghetts and Little Simz ahead of Wiley and Dizee Rascal in UK hip hop "influence and greatness"??
@lucaw8655
6 ай бұрын
Ghetts never influenced anyone over his 20 year career, you’re right
HANG ON HANG ON! No Dizzee?!
Little Simz is definitely close to taking that spot
@jamesjosejj
6 ай бұрын
nah lol
Strictly rap Giggs is the number one to ever do UK Rap. Kano the coldest though 🍾
Kano and Ghetts should’ve been joint top…..how is Ghetts at the low number…….give him the respect he deserves please
These uneducated critics who know nothing about music forgot Nines 🤔
@hamadmahmood1879
26 күн бұрын
nah nines is cold bro is like 12 or something in the ranks tbf he had one maybe two impactful albums but musically don't compare too top 10 or in terms of UK culture
Brits are so different than Americans. Nobody bashing anyone or calling anyone trash or garbage. Guaranteed on an American panel mad shade would have been thrown.
@bobokelly7361
4 ай бұрын
That's because competition is the essence of rap music, son. We're more passionate about our music and these lists. The battle is at the core of American rap music. We the best by very far. Recognize
@paixao26
Ай бұрын
@@bobokelly7361😴💤
I like Giggs but I know it’s not him. His lyrics are very nurseryrhymeish
I don't want to sound funny but every time I see a story about the top uk mc's of all time, the scene never mentions or hardly gives flowers to the old school uk mc's who are incredibly brilliant. No flowers for the old school at all, this is confusiing........
Wiley at #9 is ridiculous😂😂😂 they are his sons
@mistereuro
6 ай бұрын
Exactly,
@tyleraspinall7845
6 ай бұрын
This whole list is mad cos to start there hasn't been a separation between rap and grime
@charliegalea4913
6 ай бұрын
@@tyleraspinall7845 yeah the whole concept is dumb but either way Wiley has to be mentioned in any top 3 UK mcs
@scarzwr
6 ай бұрын
Wiley is one of our greatest but he hasn’t got a great body of work. Name 2 impactful albums from him…yes classic bars/freestyles but that’s about it
@reemyonline369
6 ай бұрын
@@scarzwrplaytimes over and the godfather 1
Haven't watched the vid yet but people mentioning Dizzee, he might be one a the most influential of course but if we're talking actual BEST then surely the criteria is different
@hamadmahmood1879
26 күн бұрын
thank you someone gets it
@hamadmahmood1879
26 күн бұрын
imo wiley should not be there I have barely heard him
MF DOOM, no need for a debate
@Painbodyy
6 ай бұрын
stop smoking spice
No one’s put UK on the map more than Skepta
@Dnashtharapper
6 ай бұрын
He’s def top 5
@dwaynecheatom6859
6 ай бұрын
So Slick Rick Don't count?
@AlexRoseGames
6 ай бұрын
Queen Victoria
@jthmastermind
6 ай бұрын
That doesn’t mean he’s top 5. Recognition doesn’t equal skill.
@studentoflife3501
5 ай бұрын
Dizzee rascal did that 10 years prior and Giggs is the one the gave Uk credibility hence why all the the rappers want to link up with him. Youre a fan that’s blinded by facts.
no jme or nines is crazy work
@hamadmahmood1879
26 күн бұрын
have not had consistent impactful projects good but not impactful like top 10
Giggs plain and simple.
No one "yet". I think it's the language accent not the rhymes. Like Guru from Gang Starr would say, it about the "Voice".
@HOODIEHUSTLE
6 ай бұрын
Sometimes I sound similar to DMX, sometimes Easy E, public enemy, the list goes on and on. Depends what mood I'm in.
Points Proven. Underground UK Rap from the 90s.
y'all never heard of Lord Apex.. he's on the comeup trust fam 😎
@capricebandicoot_
6 ай бұрын
tbh ppl don’t even know he’s british
For me personally is Skepta , Hus , Dave , Kano , Young Teflon
Hijack, Demon Boyz, Mc Mello, Derek B, London Posse, Overlord X, Cookie Crew, She Rockers, PLZ, Cash Crew, , Silver Bullet, Gunshot, Blade, Stereo MCs, Guttersnypes, MC Duke, General levy, (pre his garage days), Asher D/Daddy Freddy, Lee Ramsey, Caveman, Outlaw Posse, Thrashpack, Silent Eclipse, Sindecut, Black Radical MKII, Braintax...without these guys, no Grime, Drill or anything that you've made absent in your deliberations. Complex? More like simplistic.
All the hype of their top 50 list lol this is actually a solid top 10 list
We don’t need more arguments at Christmas
Nines and potter should be in there!
@hamadmahmood1879
26 күн бұрын
nah bro but definitely impactful but nines is bars heavy but most of his albums are alright in totality he hasn't made anything matching CIB Potter ain't competing in top 10 but tbh top twenty is basically a good play list par some like Fredo
@LCTalentMedia
26 күн бұрын
@hamadmahmood1879 it's a matter of opinion mate
Skip to 34:14 for the list, you’re welcome
Chip is not higher than ghetts
@nicolewilliams3434
6 ай бұрын
But he is top 5
@lucaw8655
6 ай бұрын
Ghetts is top 2
if it wasn't a popularity contest and it's bar for bar, Durrty Goodz and it's not even a competition. and technically, can any other MC do what Durrty did in Battle Hype? no shot
How Chip is not top 5 is beyond me
Dizzee end of debate
Wretch /Ghetts /Kano/ Potter/ Timber/ Teffs/ Dave/ Nines/ Benny Banks/ little sims/ Wiley
HyperFrank only one who properly breaksdown the reasoning, JP knows what he talkin bout course
@etiennelebeau5157
6 ай бұрын
I can tell JP wants Mimi for Complex in the future
Chip super over rated. I’m never going to post a chip album. Good for a cheeky battle that’s it
@frogsandrobbers
6 ай бұрын
Elite opinion. He aint top ten. And doube dee , wretch , potter payper himself not on the list. Please.
This is a real culture. UK rap >>
Dizzee and P Money really deserved a spot.
Mimi a legend in making but that Sillah Yute needs to refine his ting before hes levels this came tooo early for him
Potter,nines,j hus and dave clear most on this list. And with what ive been seeing so many people are just pushing an agenda with little simz, she's genuinely the most average artist ive heard genuinely cannot understand how she was placed higher then both potter and nines on this list smh.
can someone list the top 10 coz I ain't watching the whole video
@jayceeldn
6 ай бұрын
Skip to 34:14
Dizzee over Lil Simz
The fact nines wasn’t on this is outrageous
Some washed conversation . These lot are buzzin’ . Some absolute waffle 🤣 you lot are talking about Pop-rap loooool
Dave, easily.
The answer is Chronik
this has no credibility, where's dizzee? some who's on the panel madness.
This will rattle Stormzy
Whos on the pannel?
Chip ahead of Dave, Stormzy, Wiley and Dizzee is hilarious. Them man are superstars compared to Chip. This list is based on preference not "greatness" imo.
Basically who's hype from London this list is💯
Chipmunk at 4 and dizzee not even in your top 10 really sums up this panels knowledge of British rap
The only person arguably better than Dave here is skepta ain't no way this giggs guy literally talks on a beat and they put my guy above Dave smh
@hamadmahmood1879
26 күн бұрын
body of works cultural influence longevity plus dances new man needs one two more projects
Sorry Kano should not be 2nd Ghetts should be top 5! Stormzy should be top 20 D double E is your favourite MC’s (Skepta) MC he should be top 10 so should Wretch 32.
If your gonna put mf doom and slick rick as honourable mentions then you HAVE to put 21 savage :/ ALSO DIzze rascal p money , sway and cashh have to be top 50 ! Dizzie rascal had the whole uk under wraps when boy in da corner dropped its criminal to not include him .
Daniel Dumile 🏆 👀
If little sim is better then young adz I need to download the whole discography
@kat19805
6 ай бұрын
She’s an INCREDIBLE artist. She doesn’t miss. Such a high quality body of work. Deserves a top ten spot. (Top 5 in my eyes 😅)
No Pmoney or Dot Rotten?
Recency bias for sure
plss do a lbum version of dis
This list makes no sense. Too much longevity tax
I like skepta but does slick rick count cuz he would be number 1 and mf doom
New to UK rap but so far Stormzy Dave Chip Skepta Little Simz Central Cee Ghetts Bugzy Malone Octavian (body of work, not lyrics) Fredo *Haven't heard Kano, Wiley or Jhus yet. Biggie Jay-Z Nas Eminem Lil Wayne Drake Slick Rick Kool g rap Lupe Fiasco Kanye West
no mention of nines?
Lack of credentials and historianism here.
No Dizee ? No Central Cee ? No Slick Rick ?
Casisdead not up there? Cba to watch
Where's lowkey and Akala?
Ghetts should be way higher on this list, as should Wiley and Simz (the bottom 3 should all be top 5). Also I'd probably put Nines in the top 10 over Hus (no shade to Hus though, he's great). JME should've been in there, too.
@Apex_Pred_
5 ай бұрын
He could be, but he isn't🤷🏿♂️
Gotta put Headie One on the list
Chip wretch 32 Kano Giggs Skep I
@ogloc8405
Ай бұрын
Nines n Dave😎
This list is so garbage. No JME or D Double E? Simz is top 3 and Wiley is definitely top 5.
No Dizzee or wretch, Ghetts and Kano way to high up the list when should be 1 or 2! This has to be the worst list I’ve seen on complex the order is way off! Disappointing
Errr im not gonna lie Sway tinchy strydee not being on the list is amazing and i dont know how Dizzie Rascal isnt top 3 is madness
There a few i would not say there is 1. But hey that's my opinion
Dave overall is the best right now Central Cee the hottest Mf doom might be the best overall But Oliver Bate will be the greatest to ever live
@antonioriley270
6 ай бұрын
This is the most amazing way I seen someone show love to artists 🐐🫡
@Dnashtharapper
6 ай бұрын
@@antonioriley270 I love the uk 🇬🇧 I’m watching n I been collaborating with em
I don’t know how they didn’t include j spades ,c biz, or yungen in top 50.
And the Skepta 97's are 🔥. Certified classic grail level 💯
CASISDEAD man don’t miss prove me wrong 😑
@vanman757
6 ай бұрын
Yeah man & Bugzy Malone...
i agree with this list