The winds also give credibility to the Polynesians for another reason. We know that when exploring, they would often sail against the prevailing winds. That way, if they found nothing, they could turn around and zip right back home

@coleparker

2 жыл бұрын

Not only were the Polynesians relying on the winds but also the Pacific Current, which runs clockwise then North to South along the coast of both North and South America and then westward

The Polynesians did make it to Easter Island, so it isn't a stretch to think they ran into South America

@penand_paper6661

5 жыл бұрын

The Surui tribe in Brazil have genes of Austronesian/Australian/Papuan descent, so it appears that this indeed happened, although probably nobody went home to tell anyone.

@martychisnall

5 жыл бұрын

Just look at a Polynesian and Amerindian standing next to each other, there’s no way they didn’t colonise the Americas

@theghosthero6173

5 жыл бұрын

@@martychisnall phenotype is almost useless to determine relations between ethnic groups

@penand_paper6661

5 жыл бұрын

​@@martychisnall Not really. Just because two places are near each other doesn't guarantee contact and colonization of the land. For example, human beings originated in Africa, but it took us say 100k years just to discover Madagascar - and its first colonists were from Austronesia, not Africa (although Africa did help to populate it too). Plus, the vast majority of Amerind groups are believed to have crossed from Siberia, and a long, long time before the Tu'i Tonga colonization period. And even still, the population of the Americas then was very high - way too high even in the larger Andean kingdoms to be colonized all that easily. The Surui and co. likely came in around the same time people reached Australia, I think.

@b.griffin317

5 жыл бұрын

there are bones of a species of chicken native only to polynesia in peru or chile radiocarbon dates to the early 1400's.

Without metal fasteners, maps, compass, or even a written language, Polynesians found every speck of land with fresh water in an area that's 1/3 of the Earth surface. Respect...

@turuff7114

2 жыл бұрын

We are just built different 🤭

@BrickMediaStudios

2 жыл бұрын

When you put all your skill points in 1 trait

@jeffreycurtis9075

2 жыл бұрын

True, good call brother

@meisterproper8304

2 жыл бұрын

@@turuff7114 Literally

@maapauu4282

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! But we did have celestial maps, and normal maps

One thing you missed is the Polynesian habit of sailing against the wind. It might seem counterintuitive, but, when searching for new islands our ancestors found that it was safer to sail as far as you can with your resources into the wind, and if no land was found the winds would bring you back faster. This is why the Polynesian settlement pattern goes against the wind from Sāmoa to Rapa Nui.

@randydaytona5615

Жыл бұрын

Smart

You missed something very important with the Polynesians: their voyages of discovery sailed *into* the wind. This was so that the return voyages would be faster, in case they ran short of food and water, or their ships were damaged by storms.

@feetgoaroundfullflapsC

4 жыл бұрын

Very stupid to start a voyage INTO THE WIND in a machine that depends on wind. What about if they dont get to the place???, They will starve, you idiot.. Im a navigation instructor as pilot instructor. YOU ARE AN IDIOT. Have you ever sail a boat??? Sooo stupid to post that..

@df-ft6iq

4 жыл бұрын

Their sails were different to European sails, look it up

@danaphanous

4 жыл бұрын

One thing not mentioned here is that there is some genetic evidence of intermixing between native american and some Polynesian populations. I would say it is 99% likely it happened.

@veryoriginalname3823

4 жыл бұрын

@@feetgoaroundfullflapsC I didn't know you could get so important a job, despite failing kindergarten-level English. The Polynesians rowed as well as used the sails, so it wasn't entirely dependent on wind. And it would be better to just not get there, and turn around with the wind pushing you back home. I also find it funny that you brought up that you are a pilot instructor(which I thoroughly doubt), as if that matters considering he's talking about maritime navigation.

@feetgoaroundfullflapsC

4 жыл бұрын

@@veryoriginalname3823 -English is my third language, dam sucker. Hablo Espanol. Eu fala portugues..

To be fair, the polynesians also traveled thousands of kilometers against those same big prevailing currents and winds you mentioned, to get to hawaii, I see no reason they would be unable to take that one step further and make it to America.

@aronchai

5 жыл бұрын

They actually preferred to sail against the wind when exploring, because it would carry them back home if they didn't find anything. The thrust of colonization in the Pacific went from west to east, against the prevailing winds blowing from east to west.

@theyoshi202

5 жыл бұрын

aronchai but how would they sail against the wind?

@rovsea-3761

5 жыл бұрын

@@theyoshi202 Apparently there were time periods in which the wind patterns changed sufficiently for them to easily sail to easter island and new zealand, and they probably colonized/migrated to these places in waves as they were able to.

@aronchai

5 жыл бұрын

@@theyoshi202 Presumably by tacking, but I don't know much about sailing.

@mroldnewbie

5 жыл бұрын

They could have come to the Americas, but it is a foregone conclusion and not really as simple as it may seem like, because there's a big empty ocean between easter island and the Americas. It is quite impressive that they did reach Easter Island itself, but it is also worth to note that there seems to have been no people on the other islands closer to the Americas, such as the Galapagos islands, Cocos Island and the Juan Fernández Islands. Not only is there a lack of islands in the eastern Pacific, it is the opposite in the western Pacific, there are many islands there. The two halves of the Pacific ocean are very different. Map: images.slideplayer.com/14/4425065/slides/slide_23.jpg This is also one of the reason why traversing the much smaller distances across the Atlantic has been so hard, it's because there are not many islands there, and the few ones do not have coral reef and as such are practically barren. It's also much colder, due to the currents. In fact, there's a great deal of similarity to the east-west condition of the Pacific and the Atlantic, many islands to the west, with tropical conditions and coral reefs, with only a few barren islands to the east, with long stretches of islandless ocean and colder water. In both oceans, there's a possible connection in the north. The distance between Asia and the Americas is just 80 km at the Bering Strait, there's even a couple of islands in the middle. However, it is an area of quite cold conditions. On the other hand, people did move across there, so the Americas were discovered by Arctic people all the time through the ages. However, none of those people knew it was a continent, because they had no such concept. Same with the Vikings, they had no clue about continents, they just knew the local land they had reached.

Some Peublo tribes in the southwestern US are known to carry DNA from Japan, they also share some words, art forms, and customs. They even have legends of people that crossed a great ocean.

@1viridis

2 жыл бұрын

I've wondered about that, too! Cause the people of Hokkaido, Japan's northern island, look more like Plains Indians than Plains Indians look like Siberians, Mongols, Chinese or Koreans. Elements of Shintoism also seem similar to Native American cultures and beliefs.

@marceloorellana5726

2 жыл бұрын

@Gordon Brown Yes and they walked not sailed. The Japanese are East Asians the Ainu are not.

@mackycabangon8945

2 жыл бұрын

No surprise that the Ainu people shared a lot with the Native Americans, as the Native Americans originally were from Siberia, where the "proto-Amerindian" and local Siberians would have interacted. Also wasn't there a theory where Ket (another native Paleosiberian language) was linguistically related to some native American language?

@dotdotdotdotdotdotdottod

2 жыл бұрын

expecially the zuni people. there aslo known to be a laguage isolate and there langue sounds so similer to japanese

@dotdotdotdotdotdotdottod

2 жыл бұрын

@Gordon Brown the ainu are not eurasian though. there asian but there not sino. there sibrian nust like howsouth east asians are still mongoloids but arnt sino asian and infact have more deeper deatures then there cousions up north and if the ainu and aoutheast asians share similer brow ridgis as well butall in all east asians are all mongolids with diffrent varients

The guy who “discovered” the Amphore actually admitted that he placed them there so that’s insignificant now

@robertrobert7924

2 жыл бұрын

There is always a hoaxer lurking around: Piltdown Man

I remember the day I discovered Canada. It was back in the summer of 1998. It was a very strange and hostile land. Not fitting for human inhabitants. After only a few days I decided it was no longer worth enduring the hardships that land brought upon us. I made the decision to return to the United States along with my crew and tell my heroic story of exploration to the north. But the people who write the history books refuse to include my story despite showing many types of physical evidence proving the validity of my claim. Most notably the shot glass I purchased at a gift shop with the words "Niagara Falls, Canada" very clearly printed on the side. This is the true story of discovery they won't teach in school.

@ashablack2291

4 жыл бұрын

I like that

@GPR128

4 жыл бұрын

Witty n funny🤣🤣🤣

@s-willboxing5236

4 жыл бұрын

😅🤣👏🏾

@pennygretch

4 жыл бұрын

Did the natives have poutine yet, back then, as part of their traditional foods?

@riwifjadne

4 жыл бұрын

Damn bro you got the whole squad laughing.

Oh boy! Is it leif Erickson day? Hinga dinga durgen

@tengil4595

5 жыл бұрын

Is the Swedish chef and and Leif Eriksson the same person? After all, have you ever seen them both in the same room? Hmmm

@jobvandelaar7977

5 жыл бұрын

What is Ericsson Day? 😅😆

@mshikendodem4316

5 жыл бұрын

TENGIL TM is Barack Obama and I the same person, you’ve never seen them in the same room? Hmmmmmm

@coco_bold

5 жыл бұрын

if he did, why didn't he announce it to the world too, and why vikings never did anything in America, that's just stupid.

@corvus1374

5 жыл бұрын

Geography Now! did their country report on Norway today, too.

The Polynesians sailed the entire Pacific. I have no doubt in my mind that many of them sailed to the end of the pacific and landed on the Americas

@markberryhill2715

2 жыл бұрын

Indubidly.

@marceloorellana5726

2 жыл бұрын

They did not sail the entire Pacific. The Pacific Ocean is half of the entire planet. And the Polynesians stuck to the east and central Pacific.

@thateffinguy2422

2 жыл бұрын

@@marceloorellana5726 thats because theres no major islands east of hawaii that that could support an entire culture of people. I guarantee they didnt get to hawaii and said theres nothing left to be found East of Hawaii. How about you do research before making false ignorant claims 🤷🤣

@iansteelmatheson

2 жыл бұрын

@@marceloorellana5726 yeah.... except there are artistic and sculptural similarities between them and some south/central american traditions, and it's recently been shown that there was genetic interchange about 1000 years ago.

@turuff7114

2 жыл бұрын

@@marceloorellana5726 wrong try again 🤣

Worth mentioning is a exploratory fleet lead by the uncle of Mansa Musa's may have sailed to the America's from Africa. Historical records of the time reports that his uncle, who was the king of Mali at the time, became obsessed with the notion of land to the west of the Great Sea, going so far as to build two giant fleets eventually sailing off with the second one leaving Mansa Musa as king until his return. Neither fleet were ever heard from again, but it's interesting to consider how those that survived the voyage may have lived out their lives.

@MiraLee_

Жыл бұрын

It literally baffles me how they say Africans didn’t have the resources and wasn’t smart enough and literally the richest king /man to ever live was an African man . He definitely had the power and smarts to complete such conquest!

@Techno_Idioto

Жыл бұрын

​@@MiraLee_ Evidence is inconclusive, and it's highly unlikely regardless.

@randydaytona5615

Жыл бұрын

I saw that

@GuardianoftheGoldenStool

8 ай бұрын

@@Techno_IdiotoIt’s NOT highly unlikely Columbus in his journal recorded that the native Arawak reported to him that black skinned men arrived amidst them from a southeastern geographical location trading in gold tip spears. Confirming the stories of Mansa Muhammad Ibm Qu (mistaken as Mansa Abubakari Keita) landing in Pernambuco, Brazil initially. This gold which the Arawak natives obtained from these blacks he took back to Spain having it chemically analyzed discovering it was the same as found in the Guinea and Mali region of West Africa. For me what is most convincing is the Arawak word for gold is “guanin” quite similar to the Mandinka of the Mali empire word for gold, which is “ghanin.”

@timasuna1756

7 ай бұрын

​@@GuardianoftheGoldenStoolAnd his description was wrong, he only used them as the only foreign reference he had. Native DNA has been tested many times over on Caribbean natives. It's only Amerindian, to this day.

After watching this I'm convinced even if each example is sketchy there was probably small sporadic exchanges going on over the many thousands of years

@KevAlberta

5 жыл бұрын

Yup. If anything, fact is stranger than fiction, so if this is a somewhat accurate video, I think your assumptions are very tame and possible

@marcogrigolo2228

5 жыл бұрын

I think that is why Columbus discovery is the most important. Not because was the first (or second, or whatever), but because of the implications it had on both worlds (old and new)

@paurepiccheeseman

5 жыл бұрын

Marco Grigolo It’s basically just the first transoceanic contact that was sustained over the years

@nickc3657

5 жыл бұрын

I think so, too. Humans are excellent at getting into every nook and cranny imaginable, it seems inevitable someone was smart or lucky enough to end up tossed across the world more than once.

@mroldnewbie

5 жыл бұрын

Of course, there's a reason why there's Yupik (Yuit) people on both sides of the Bering Strait, people went across in both directions occasionally.

Vikings:We found America first Colonists:No it was us Native Americans:Am I a joke to you?

@Matt-tx1tc

5 жыл бұрын

the luzia womens laughs at all above

@iPranav007

5 жыл бұрын

What about amerigo vhespusy ?

@draive1538

5 жыл бұрын

Native Americans: Am I primitive to you? Wasted oppurtunity

@zen528

4 жыл бұрын

Bruh I’m pretty sure like animals found America first lmao

@perfectallycromulent

4 жыл бұрын

Vikings: Y'all weren't in Greenland when we got there first.

This is great info and shows how much we may not know. Loved it

I remember seeing a documentary one time about this subject. There was also a site in Peru (I think) that they found skeletons that had some sort of strain of the flu or cold or something that was only found in two places in the world: that small population in South America and on an island in Japan.

Perhaps the question that should be asked is; How many times have the Americas been discovered?

@markberryhill2715

2 жыл бұрын

Bingo. The Romans had forts and outposts on the Amazon. The Phoenicians traded all over the Ancient world. They were a lot smarter than we give them credit for.

@thomascragg783

2 жыл бұрын

@@markberryhill2715 Exactly the point. Human evolution has not changed in the last 20 thousand years. They were just as intelligent as as us and learning as they went.

@marceloorellana5726

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. And the first were the PaleoAmericans over 45,000 years ago.

@erickbarragan1109

2 жыл бұрын

To the modern coneceted world, just one cristobal colon

@loke6664

2 жыл бұрын

@@markberryhill2715 The Roman's possibly had those, the evidence is pretty circumstantial. People back then certainly weren't stupid and it is pretty likely some ships could have gotten there. But there is a difference between Roman and Phoenicians against vikings, the navigation technology. Generally, ships of the classical era tended to sail within sight of land, if not they navigated by stars and the sun. If it got cloudy they were pretty screwed. The vikings figured out a way to see the sun even during bad weather with a sun stone. They also had a kind of disc that with the direction of the sun at mid day would give them the compass direction. That is a huge advantage if you want to sail a trading route, suddenly you get a pretty good chance of survival, particularly with the viking ship called a "knarr" which was extremely sturdy and could carry more then enough food for the journey. So I don't think the Romans and Phoenicians had the technology to have a trade route to the new world. People from Norway still fished around Newfoundland by the time of Columbus and we honestly don't know how large the viking presence in North America were. The Sagas mention 3 settlements (launx au meadows doesn't fit with either of them) and a few journeys but that is just what have been written down long after. Now, people from Rapa Nui and other Polynesian islands is a different matter. They did have the experience to have such a trade route, they had a different way of navigating using ocean streams instead so they might very well had a trade route but the Mediterranean sailors never really had the need for such a method and neither do we have any evidence of them using it. So I am pretty critical to permanent Roman presence in the new world due to Roman Naval technology. And I haven't even talked much about the ships but Roman ships tended to be made to sail in Roman waters. The Phoenician ships have a bit of the same problem. Viking ships were clinker built which meant they were less likely to break apart during high waves and they had a more advanced sail as well. Another reason why a large Roman presence is unlikely is that we tend to find a lot Roman coins in any place they been or have been trading with. Vikings also traded with coins but they preferred trading with other things since silver and gold is pretty rare in Scandinavia. Most finds of viking coins is in areas where the vikings have settled and in Scandinavia. A few viking coins have been found in North America but I can't think of a single Roman in South America. So I think there is pretty high chances for a couple of ancient ships reaching the Americas by accident but very low chance of a permanent trade route there. As for the vikings, we do know they were fishing a lot on the Canadian coast, particularly after Narwhal which they sold the tusk from as "unicorn horns" to stupid western monarchs for a fortune. How much they traded with natives is still unknown, they did found a viking scale in Quebec so some trading were going on.

Honestly every single theory makes complete sense to me. The americas were just way too far away to be profitable, so the ones contacting them over the millenia just continuosly decided they have better things to do than sail half the way across the world to meet some wierd natives with their sweet potatoes.

@Gloriaimperial1

3 жыл бұрын

Another possible date: 1492. Spain discovers America, and filled Europe and Asia with commercial products, gold and silver: England and all Europe abandon the feudal era.

@riley8385

3 жыл бұрын

Hey now! Sweet potatos are totally worth the tripp, lol.

@Gloriaimperial1

3 жыл бұрын

@@riley8385 Of course :)

@edwardgreen5589

3 жыл бұрын

Europeans Discovered nothing!

@Gloriaimperial1

3 жыл бұрын

@@edwardgreen5589 If I discover an abandoned watch in the field, and show it to my friends, I have discovered a watch for them. Someone owned the watch, but now more people know about it. If I discover a continent, and show it to Europeans, Asians, Oceanians and Africans, I am discovering a continent for them, something new for them. Native Americans discovered that Europe, Asia, Africa, and Oceania existed.

Great video! Very informative and interesting!

The Olmecs developed a wide trading network, and between 1100 and 800 bce their cultural influence spread northwestward to the Valley of Mexico and southeastward to parts of Central America.

@lugi25

Жыл бұрын

I wish we knew more, like I heard Aztecs had many libraries and possibly historic knowledge of America's, but the Spanish destroyed it during there conquest.

@jtmassecure4488

Жыл бұрын

​@@lugi25 Always destroying historical artifacts its a shame really

There’s this cool thing you missed out on- it’s theorized that the Polynesians intentionally sailed into the opposing winds so that if something went wrong they would eventually find land as they were pushed back. That would explain the more northern contact they had in South America

@heathenfire

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I thought he would talk about this

@heathenfire

5 жыл бұрын

@Naphtali Exiled I'm lost

@Vlad-sj5yw

5 жыл бұрын

We have no reason to believe they sailed into the opposing wind other than they were up that north in the Americas and I think it makes way more sense that they sailed to the south, went north along the coast and took the winds home again. This would save them a lot of time instead of sailing into the opposing winds and also increase the chances of them coming into contact with several settlements along the shore on their way north. It would also enable them to buy goods from different 'nations' in the south and sell them up north so they'd have more to barter with.

@heathenfire

5 жыл бұрын

@Naphtali Exiled 😂😂 let's rise up! The truth must be brought out! PS: if you don't mind me asking where are you from? How did you guess (correctly) that I'm a brown skinned person ?

@AngryKittens

5 жыл бұрын

@@heathenfire Your name. Duh. He's an idiot.

I come from Aotearoa New Zealand and was shocked to learn that the word we use for sweet potato, kumara, is almost exactly the same in indigenous languages of the Americas.

@moreira999

4 жыл бұрын

Which language ???

@princezhedricksilvestre8678

4 жыл бұрын

New Zealand is part of Polynesians

@Contraria_sunt_complementa

4 жыл бұрын

@@moreira999 Looking for at online dictionaries I found that the Quechua word for sweet potato is "kumar", and the Maori word for a green potato is kamorā. Similar enough.

@pablollapiz6762

4 жыл бұрын

Well, nowdays almost everyone call it "Camote" but yep, the orginal words are very very similar

@ngataieruaapanui-barr8581

4 жыл бұрын

Manuel Sánchez Cruz lmao kāmora, it’s kumara

The story of the Inca Tupac Yupanqui (emperor of the incas of south América) discovering the polynesia, leaving even a temple in the Easter Island (Ahu Vinapu) is amazing to me. Theres an Island on Mangareva where people still talk about a king called like Tupa (as of Tupac) and their god called Kom Tiki was taught by Tupac (Viracocha the incas god was also called like that). Theres also potatoes, skuls and chickens found in Chile that come from the polynesia meaning that they also reached the country several times. The globalization is just older than we thought

Love your work! Enjoy your videos.

I feel like people from multiple places got to the americas, but just couldn’t get back so that’s why they remained unknown to the old world.

@Funkiy

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@madefromabove8662

2 жыл бұрын

Wrong...

@annoyed707

2 жыл бұрын

That's because they landed at the Hotel California. They checked out but could never leave.

@walangchahangyelingden8252

2 жыл бұрын

The Vikings did go back though.

@Maxbps88

2 жыл бұрын

The probability is both = some couldn't make it back while others could and did but for multiple reasons did not 'colonize' and were not able to maintain either people living in the new world and/or keep trade routes for centuries. Or as in the potential case of the Chinese (Book 1421 by Gavin Menzies), their country begin a centuries long isolation after discovering the Americas.

I discovered my neighbor's pool one summer. He wasn't too happy about that.

@4youreyesonly884

4 жыл бұрын

I discovered your wife and sister.

@lakrids-pibe

4 жыл бұрын

Did he have a flag?

@justinamusyoka4986

3 жыл бұрын

So ,to discover means to see.

@levytorregrosaoliver6716

2 жыл бұрын

Ha haha haha..

Thanks for the run down. I’m trying to achieve something that I would put on a par with setting sail to discover new land, so if you have any ideas on how I can find other people who want to be part of such a mission…I would love to hear them! 😀🇦🇺

I thank you for a very interesting presentation. Another point that I am glad you brought up was the concept of accidental or forced survival discovery. Many other publishers have made it seem that the first human(s) were sitting in a bar with nothing to do. They decided to steal a well provisioned boat and an assortment of girls for “companionship” while they attempted to break the record for circumnavigation of the world, which none of them had heard of. The truth probably lies closer to “Gilligan’s Island” in dugouts with no Mary Ann. Your Japanese group survived for thirteen(?) months eating rice and anything else that floated by dead or alive. Again I thank you.

Polynesians regularly travelled from the Pacific Islands to New Zealand and return, a distance over 2000 km. Plus their historical migratory route was from west to east island hopping all the way to Easter Island. It’s seems logical that they would have continued at some point east, aside from the kumara and linguistic evidence. Maybe several cultures made it to South America before Columbus, even if colonisation failed or was absorbed into local pre existing cultures.

@robinhodgkinson

4 жыл бұрын

@@DP-eb2cg what's your problem? Or did you just misunderstand my meaning...

@robinhodgkinson

4 жыл бұрын

@Sterlin Jordan Polynesians settled in New Zealand about 600 years ago - now known as Maoris. Early after settlement they made trips to and from the Pacific Islands. I settled in New Zealand about 25 years ago : )

@profwaldone

4 жыл бұрын

I find it likely that the Polynesians arrived in central and south America a few times, but as their entire culture is based on coastal and island-based farming, living and other stuff. I would not be surprised if they went extinct before the current native Americans arrived. it would also be extremely logical for them to move north to middle America as south America is essentially walled off by a mountain range. something the Polynesians never have had to deal with and probably couldn't have dealt with.

@DP-eb2cg

4 жыл бұрын

@@robinhodgkinson No sorry I think I just confused or something...Cheers for your detailed answer.

@macarde10

3 жыл бұрын

Robin Hodgkinson, well we definitely know that there was precolumbian contact between the Polynesians and native Americans of South America. The only question is who visited who. A people who never sailed? Or a people who are well known to have travelled afar on the open ocean. It’s still early with this theory, more studies and research are definitely warranted.

I saw on the Mali empire episodes by extra credits that an exposition was launched by a king but never returned

@alecity4877

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, never returned, and neither are there remains of reaching the americas, probably sank even before the cape verde archipelago, this is since he sat sail on huracane season and cape verde is a huracane generation spot, the cape verde were in the way to americas in the direction he sailed but the archipelago was uninhabited before europeans

@DSNCB919

5 жыл бұрын

city there's plenty of signs africans DID make it nice try.. btw that was the 2nd voyage

@alecity4877

5 жыл бұрын

@@DSNCB919 the second try, after there already was a voyage. There are theories based on the toltec stones facial features and the facial reconstructions of the older skulls in the americas. Those are completely fair theories and those things that bring the theories are completely justifiable to suspect on. But the Mali empire's arrival has only evidence of had sailed, but not of have reached the americas.

@achille295

5 жыл бұрын

@@alecity4877 Wrong, there are plenty of vestiges of his arrival to Americas, look into it

@alecity4877

5 жыл бұрын

@@achille295 apert of what I already mentioned, and the things mentioned into the video, there are vestiges of morrocan trade ships that sank near the barbados that could have been trading with natives or been carried by winds or a storm, also there's a phoenician coin that represents a land beyond the strit of Gibraltar, but it is doubt as it is very small coin and it could represent the brittish isles, Madeira, the Asores or the canaries. No evidence of arrival apart from already said in the video, but it is entirely plausible as also said in the video.

No mention of the tobacco found in Egyption tombs, I'm surprised!

Every time he said, "but before we move on to that point" I was expecting an ad from the sponsor lol

Speaking of the clay pots the ancient Greeks used to use, as a Greek they are so common you can go to any beach and at a distance of 6-10 meteres away from the coastline you will find clay pot fragments, I have found dozens of large mini and small ones that were used in cups, jars and pots, I brought them over to my house, I went around 7-10 meters deep (almost drowned bc I didn’t have gear) and I found some fragments which I still have at my house, speaking of which ζήτω η Ελλάδα 🇬🇷❤️

@anthonykatsivalis224

2 жыл бұрын

@lewangoalski Greetings my ancient friend!

@rishikeshwagh

2 жыл бұрын

That is extremely fascinating! Thanks for sharing.

@THEGAME-ko3mg

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao Same i keep finding them . Also roof parts and floor parts

@BlackAladdin_

11 ай бұрын

Lol at one point the Greek senate lied about other civilizations (khemet, phenocians aka our mulatto step kids) traveling to the americas because no Greek has sailed much further than the statue of hercules

@rizkyadiyanto7922

4 ай бұрын

100 years later: plastic pots are everywhere.

Subscribing to this channel is a thing i do not regret in any way shape or form Absolutely amazing content

@savagehcr2232

5 жыл бұрын

do you have channel subs that you regret?

Fascinating subject. Are isolated contacts "discovery", for example, especially if there is no recognition that any discovery occurred and no pattern of contacts? That is where it gets harder to pin down. Also there also is a distinction between what is possible and what is provable.

well the polynesian one has been proven beyond doubt now, as genetic evidence was found in 2020

So Columbus shows up like a troll in the comments shouting “First!” but makes history instead of getting downvotes

@e1123581321345589144

5 жыл бұрын

I would argue that Columbus also discovered (or more accurately re-discovered) America as it was pretty much unknown at that time in Western Europe.

@denisenova7494

5 жыл бұрын

Considering he was quite a racist he‘d have a Pepe The Frog profile picture

@y33t23

5 жыл бұрын

e1123581321345589144 yep, the knowledge was lost

@luciendolo6604

5 жыл бұрын

Not even, genius died insisting it was Asia even though it was repeatedly shown to him that he "discovered" an unknown continent.

@wambold2369

5 жыл бұрын

@Naphtali Exiled Are you okay?

There is also the story of the Precursor Of Mansa Musa, who in oral history was said to have abandoned the throne in order to go on an expedition West and left the throne to Mansa Musa

@larryfreeman2184

4 жыл бұрын

Abu Bakr or Abu Bakari

@robertcherry7190

4 жыл бұрын

@nita bineta - l thought I had heard that. Do you have a reference that supports this?

@robertcherry7190

4 жыл бұрын

@nita bineta - Thanks. I find it interesting that there's so much time and effort invested into erasing and or discrediting the evidence of African achievement. For things to be the way they are, the Moors must have really traumatized western Asia.

@mjomboy4383

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you someone else knows

@PoldarkGodzilla

4 жыл бұрын

@nita bineta They were not african, theer were also kulls with similarities to europeans but that does not make them european. An easier explanation is there were a number of tribes chasing the herds across Brengia, some had features representative of the first africans to leave africa, they retained those due to isolation, You see it today in the andaman islanders and papua new guinea peoples, however their geentic show they are closeley allingned with asian peoples.

Good Work. Highly Compelling Storytelling.

I do agree with you. It was an interesting video. Thanks. By the way, in New Zealand the name for the primary sweet potato grown is almost identical to the names you showed us: kumara (and pronounced with the accent on the first syllable, KOO-ma-ra.)

10:00 the ocean currents (gyres) are not the result of the wind direction. Both the gyres and the prevailing wind direction are the result of the Coriolis effect

@SpaghettiToaster

5 жыл бұрын

I thought the currents were a result of differences in water temperature.

@razorsaber2287

5 жыл бұрын

That is absolutely true good catch

@user-do5zk6jh1k

5 жыл бұрын

@@SpaghettiToaster Coriolis is caused when an object with some angular momentum moves into an area of the Earth with a different amount of angular momentum, so it starts spinning relative to the surrounding environment. This can be done by either changing altitude or changing latitude (because both change your distance from the Earth's axis of rotation). Temperature is related because hot things rise and cold things sink, so temperature difference creates vertical movement, which then manifests itself in the coriolis effect.

@SpaghettiToaster

5 жыл бұрын

@@user-do5zk6jh1k I know what the coriolis effect is, but I'm saying that currents would still exist even if the world didn't spin, if different parts of the ocean were at different temperatures (due to whether they're on the sunny side, the depth of the ocean, nearby land masses, clouds etc). Even though the coriolis forces affect these movements, that doesn't mean they're (primarily) responsible for them.

@gabor6259

5 жыл бұрын

Red Ice, he knows. He has a video on the Coriolis effect.

When you started talking about the Polynesian theories I was expecting something about the Araucana chicken, which is theorised to be of polynesian origin.

@gordianplot9347

5 жыл бұрын

Some native American dog breeds have genes that originated from China and Turkey. Including the Chihuahua and the Mexican hairless.

@bangbang7519

5 жыл бұрын

Gordian Plot I believe dogs were domesticated in Asia

@theyoshi202

5 жыл бұрын

@Bang Bang Is there any animal that *wasn’t* first domesticated in Asia?

@LEO_M1

5 жыл бұрын

Kurt22 I believe cows were domesticated in the Middle East like, the Turkey/Iran region. Edit: I guess the proper term is Anatolia.

@gordianplot9347

5 жыл бұрын

@Big Bang some breeds share a more recent origin, the Mexican hairless descended from the Chinese crested long after people migrated to Americas

All this discoveries make me really hope that time machine exist so we can learn every detail that happen throughout the history. But of course the time machine should only be build to learn the past not change them

@mahadbahad9895

Жыл бұрын

time machines or atleast time travellers cant exist as no one went too steven hawkings party

@ToniTruth88

Жыл бұрын

Time machine exists within. Your DNA is embedded with years of ancestral memory. We lost our way with our spirituality and traded it in for Materialism and vanity. We strayed from the path of nature and into the world technology

4:43 This mythological isle is also known by "isle of Hy-Brasil"

Answer: Not Christopher Columbus

@user-ys4qr2su5p

3 жыл бұрын

Not Mayflower's englands

@gabbyhall3799

3 жыл бұрын

american textbooks: am i a joke to you

@xxxgxxx9348

3 жыл бұрын

Its possible that others sailed there before Columbus but his discovery had the biggest impact on the world.

@damnthezionists1708

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely not Columbus

@venividivici9580

3 жыл бұрын

@@damnthezionists1708 well Columbus changed the world and discovered America for europeans.

Natives: Straight chilling Literally every culture: It's free real estate Edit: Why are so many ppl getting triggered saying "tHe NaTiVes MURdereD eaCh oThEr Th3Y WeReNt ChiLLinG."

@goncaloaraujo6644

3 жыл бұрын

They weren’t chilling, astecas were killing almost everyone, about 20k Indians per month

@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479

3 жыл бұрын

@@goncaloaraujo6644 you mean native americans and the northern american natives were relatively peaceful and far awaya while the aztects where murdering their neighbours

@paninidagoat8780

3 жыл бұрын

@@goncaloaraujo6644 true but you know what I mean

@arthurheidt6373

3 жыл бұрын

they had the opportunity to join western civilisation and convert to christianity and many did

@indicimbecile6992

3 жыл бұрын

The Taíno people were chill

Just watched the Pangaea video, so we all lived on one continent at one time and lost a bunch of continents in the divorce? Didn't anyone notice that the Americas were drifting away and say, "Somebody should hop on there!"? "Hey, perfect place to build a house for your mother, sweetheart!"

I read once that the Polynesians could predict where islands were by 'reading' the subtle waves that accompany the larger waves. I believe that they didn't need charts or navigation aids because they just sailed right to the island of choice. Better than GPS!

Another theory is that the Puno-Celtic People (Celtic people mixed with some Carthage people) fled from Europe as they lost the last Punic war and reached the Americas. In South America there was a tribe called Chachapoya, who has blonde hair and built the houses the same way the Iberian Celts did, they also shared the Canarian stone sling and a cult around the human head. Logistically the Punic seafaring was so good the could have actually reached South America. I totally recommend to read more about that (there are also some interesting documentaries)...

@JimRFF

5 жыл бұрын

Can you recommend any sources in particular? That sounds really interesting to me and I've always been curious about the potential of Punic explorers potentially reaching the Americas, given their reputation as shipwrights, seafarers, and traders, as well as stories like Hanno the Navigator exploring the Atlantic coast of Africa

@julioservantes8242

5 жыл бұрын

Considering how long humans have existed it is very likely that a lot of people from many continents reached the americas before columbus. However the asians were the first to successfully inhabit the whole continent before the Europeans conquered them.

@davidrosner6267

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe Carthaginians or Puno-Celtic sailors used the westward blowing winds to sail from West Africa to South America?

@_robustus_

5 жыл бұрын

Archeologists found that human remains of Chachapoyas do not differ significantly from other Peruvian aboriginal people.

@keeganmoonshine7183

5 жыл бұрын

@@_robustus_ THey could have mixed with the local population over time. Culturally punic but genetically native over many generations.

I think is key to make a distinction between *discovery* (as in the very 1st people to find a piece of land), *contact* (the case of Vikings, Polynesians and others outside of America that may have stumbled upon it), and *colonization* (the case of the Europeans and you know the rest of the history).

@MeJustAimy

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY no European explorers “discovered” anything

@stsk1061

Жыл бұрын

@@MeJustAimy Even by that definition They still discovered all the islands in the Atlantic Ocean.

@redbuki

7 ай бұрын

​@@MeJustAimyMy country Spain discovered America and took it out of the stone age and put it in the 16th century in 100 years. If Spain does not discover America today, the continent would be much more backward than Africa.

AWESOME upload you tell us of many others who could've came first, but this due to contemporary times say from the birth of Christ on towards 1492 Columbus's sighting of the "Americas"? Because I watched a documentary of Solutreans, people from Europe at the time of the last Ice Age when food got scarce there and the coastal areas were quickly fished out so sailing at the edge of the ice they managed to get from Europe(what is now southern France/northern Spain) to what is now NewFoundland(which at that time was connected to the mainland). Also while in school in se Utah, we heard of stories of the Indian tribes describing tall, fair-haired people, don't remember where in Nevada but the mummified remains of a redheaded woman were unearthed, could this redhead be a descendant of the first Solutreans and just a bit before the Asians came over the Bering land bridge, they had already spread out into what is now the continental U.S.? Questions totally worth asking and for pondering about. Thanks for sharing, liked and greetings Atlas Pro from Mexico. :)

Pacific water level changes, the sea mount ranges between Rapa Nui and South America (which may have risen above water at times like islands to make island hopping more plausible), the southern wind current you mentioned, and the Polynesian boating skills. Considering they were already on the move from Southern Asia and Africa in boats, why wouldn't they have gone further if they saw places to rest between? Which can date it as far back as 60,000 years ago

@e.bfreeman3889

Жыл бұрын

Fishing as a way of life prior to agriculture. There'd be weather trends and seasons (spawning) to follow. Reasons for island and coastal people to be expected to change where they go for food.

Really very interesting theories! I am not a Geography expert but appreciate that the researchers had done a great job on it. I also read the comments that a few others explorers were left out by the producer of this series. A sequel to it will be highly appreciated. Thanks so much for sharing such wonderful videos.

The reason that Columbus is given credit for discovering the Americas is that nothing came of those earlier discoveries. All Viking settlements were abandoned and nothing happened until after Columbus made his discovery.

@Vlad-sj5yw

5 жыл бұрын

That is simply wrong. When Columbus sailed off, people didn't know about the Vikings being their first. So logically Columbus got the credit. Since then we have found out about the Vikings and that is the reason why Columbus today is precisely *not* given the credit. At no point did it have anything to do with what the result of either discovery was.

@majorfallacy5926

5 жыл бұрын

Guess they made the mistake of not pillaging whatever lands they came across.

@chiprbob

5 жыл бұрын

The discovery of the "new" world by Columbus is what set off the conquest of it. While the Vikings had been there, nothing came of it. They were there, they left, and forgot about it.

@magnusorn7313

5 жыл бұрын

@@majorfallacy5926 the "vikings" that found north america were not vikings they were norsemen

@Vlad-sj5yw

5 жыл бұрын

@@chiprbob Well they didn't forget about it since we have Icelandic sources about it, but other than that it's completely correct what you say. But all that is another talk completely; what resulted in the discoveries. The reason why Columbus was given credit was that they thought he was first, not because they knew he was second but had a larger impact. Which is why today in 2019 Columbus is *not* given credit as the first European in the Americas.

Check out a book called the Farfarers by Farley Mowat, which backs up the Alba/Irish connection of going to Newfoundland before the Norse. Very Interesting book..

Thanks for your information

I'm delighted you mentioned Saint Brendan and Tim Severin's voyage. Saint Brendan is said to be from County Kerry, the same county in Ireland that I'm from.

There is so much evidence that people from all around the world have been coming to the Americas for thousands of years before Columbus. I believe the finding of coca in Egyptian mummies was mentioned in a previous video and there is some debate around when and from where chickens reach South America. I hope there is a follow up video on this topic as there is so much to discuss about it. Keep up the good work, I'm really glad I subscribed a few days ago.

@akai4942

5 жыл бұрын

The coca leales thing has been debunked: It's native african coca

@_robustus_

5 жыл бұрын

The chickens were brought by Spanish and the araucana is a breed the locals created themselves from a mutation found in that group for blue eggs and a lack of tales.

@akai4942

5 жыл бұрын

@@_robustus_ some chickens were brought by Polynesians . Polynesian reaching south america and trading with the Mapuche was proved a decade ago Search "mocha island" in chile, that'll show you some interesting stuff

@_robustus_

5 жыл бұрын

They found skulls that “look” polynesian but nothing conclusive yet.

@user-6K38d95gfH

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah at one point (1860s) local Egyptian street vendors would dig up mummies and sell them on the streets because mummies were exotic and a cool party prop for European elites. That's one way the coca could have gotten their. I sure wouldn't want to sell dead people while sober lol

Nice presentation, it adds to the many hypotheses wherein the truth lies. I believe the c. 34,000 to/or 14,000 dates (before present) for the first Sapien occupations deserve further study.

You would be interested in The Way finder Voyaging Society and the Hokulea. Nainoa Thompson

Well, we know who has discovered America last.

@orise5460

4 жыл бұрын

lol

@houselemuellan8756

3 жыл бұрын

@ANIMATION WEB 3 Chris

@youareveryannoying9179

3 жыл бұрын

@@houselemuellan8756 Topher

@areyoureadyforit2508

3 жыл бұрын

@@Yigash and Europe.

@rickastley5321

3 жыл бұрын

I did

*I'm pretty sure 100% not my mom*

@Eldrich4291

5 жыл бұрын

Looks like somebody watched the previous video lol

Nice video, Very interesting, I watched a while ago another one where when they referred to "America" they referred to just the USA, They didn't understand that when people say "Columbus discovered America" They meant the hole continent.

Michigan-specific copper has been mettalurgically proven in bronze age artifacts in Anatolia. The 7’8” Minoan traders buried in the Criel Charleston mound had a phoenician grave layout but native groups prevented DNA sampling. Red hair was present in some of the warrior graves.

7:24 ocean level was low enough for a land bridge . Than it was low enough to have more islands in the pacific . . Making it easier for people in canoes to get across the ocean .

@oo-bl5kx

3 жыл бұрын

Sources? If that was the case then that would mean that they did it during the Ice Age which ended 11,000 years ago and it is suggested that the polynesians discovered America in the early CE.

@psychiatry-is-eugenics

3 жыл бұрын

o o - more they learn , the more they find out about how wrong they are

@psychiatry-is-eugenics

3 жыл бұрын

o o - 11,000 years ago , lost civilization of Atlantis ? or maybe just small groups barely surviving .

@newstartyt3700

3 жыл бұрын

@Kwok Yat Wai we dont know if it existed or not but there is pretty strong candidate by the name of the Richat Structure

@glossjunkies6026

3 жыл бұрын

To an extent weren’t oceans higher too?

There was an African king from Mali who abandoned his throne appointed a new king and sailed to the americas, after having sent an expedition team who came back and told him what they saw... West Africa has been trading with southern Americans for a long time. It's even known in African cultures.

@joegibbs1454

4 жыл бұрын

True but what Columbus did was bring a country worth of people with him...eventually. Lots of solo or low #'d expeditions all around the world by every race. A difference.

@mbhonimavunda6867

4 жыл бұрын

@@joegibbs1454 The question is of discovery not colonization. Moreover, Columbus never actually set foot on continental America, just the islands nearby. Furthermore, please read about the thousands of natives who committed suicide rather than live under Columbus. His own country had him arrested, along with his brothers, for the crimes he committed in the New World.

@joegibbs1454

4 жыл бұрын

In order for it to be discovery, in my opinion, you would have to return and speak of your discovery. Thats my point. Not that columbus was good guy or whatever. If a rocket ship took off and found good land in outer space but to us here on earth it appears they took off and nobody ever heard from them again...that wouldnt be discovery.

@djw2838

4 жыл бұрын

@@joegibbs1454 who says that Africans didn't go back and speak of their travels, and like most historical events, it's changed to make caucasians feel superior.

@joegibbs1454

4 жыл бұрын

@@djw2838 im sure they did. The difference here is euros flooded the continent with euros. The africans did not. Doesn't make euros better or africans better. Its just what happened. The euros imo were successful in spreading bcuz they organized on large scales. Thats the lesson.

I would like you to do a video on the Red Paint or Red Ochere people originating in the Upper New York area and how their artifacts made it all the way to Easter Island in the south and the Caves of France to the east...

I have an old documentary about Australian Aborigines voyaging to South America: it said that the native people of Tierra Del Fuego looked more like native Australians than they did other South American peoples, and that blood taken from the last surviving people matched native Australia blood groups more then it did other South Americans. But the continents are so huge that I could well believe that every theory is true - people from all over could have discovered them a hundred times over thousands of years.

@raulmenedez2427

2 жыл бұрын

Aborigines never voyaged.

@franl155

2 жыл бұрын

@@raulmenedez2427 - Your sources for that statement?

It was firstly discovered by a single cell microorganism

@FloofyTanker

5 жыл бұрын

The mitochondria is the power house of the cell

@user-wc9zd8hh9r

5 жыл бұрын

The true first explorer of the americas

@shroomzed2947

5 жыл бұрын

lol Archaea bumping into the Acasta gneiss were the first to discover America.

@mohssenkassir431

5 жыл бұрын

Dude why do I see you everywhere

@alexh349

5 жыл бұрын

@@FloofyTanker A.T.P= Active Trans Portation chemical. Did you learn that one I invented it

People often miss the Inuit and proto-inuite migrations across the Bering straight into North America

@retf8977

5 жыл бұрын

That's because the Inuits are native Americans

@michaelball93

5 жыл бұрын

The Inuit arrived much later than other native American groups and resemble native Siberians much more closely. In fact, the Viking settlements in Greenland were probably already on the way out by the time they arrived there.

@_robustus_

5 жыл бұрын

Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding...we have a winner!

@theghosthero6173

5 жыл бұрын

Also the chukchee regularly went across the Bering strait for trade and raiding.

@aronchai

5 жыл бұрын

Yup. There were multiple waves of people moving across the Bering Strait after the initial colonization event, beginning with the initial speakers of Na-Dené languages and ending with the Inuit.

very good work

Great video

While the Romans were iffy at best when it came to ocean sailing (the calmness of the Mediterranean will do that to a civilization), Augustus did want a circumnavigation of the African landmass, so it's not completely out of the question that they could have made it to somewhere in the Americas, albeit completely unintentionally. Given that they probably wouldn't have known where they were, had they managed to make it back, it'd probably just be a side note of some island without much value, and not discussed in much detail -- consider the general Roman disinterest in Ireland. That said, given how wildly talented the Polynesians were at seafaring, I'd honestly be more surprised if they somehow only made it to the likes of Easter Island without finding the mainland continent, and seems a lot more likely than a Roman ship making its way over.

@feetgoaroundfullflapsC

4 жыл бұрын

Prove it. otherwise you are a liar....

@Yingyanglord1

4 жыл бұрын

which section do you want proven

i thought you were gonna mention the Malian expedition and the (supposed) Malian ship and artifacts found at the mouth of the Amazon.

@bongbites8543

4 жыл бұрын

ikr

@MiloTheCrotonian

3 жыл бұрын

Where is the baobab wood?

@jonathancole9664

2 жыл бұрын

If he mentioned any nation that wasn't from europe he'd get downvoted into oblivion

The land bridge is also how north america was first populated which eventually became the native people. Great video

Well put

There is some evidence of Phoenicians here in Brazil, specifically in Rio de Janeiro where there is an inscription in a rock referencing some phoenician king and his son

@JAG8691

4 жыл бұрын

There is also some evidence of the Phoenicians reaching the Namibian coast - coins, and the Cape south coast - planks of Cedrus libani + Khoisan rock drawing of a Phoenician style ship.This may vindicate Herodotuses story of the expedition sent by Egyptian King Necho 2.

@Yingyanglord1

4 жыл бұрын

the only evidence with phonicain theroy is well a lot of evidence has been disproven add on the reason the theory was created was as a way to explain large temples and cities because at the time they couldnt believe non whites could possibly build impressive structures. (So sadly that theory has been tainted which is sad because it seems very interesting !

@peterblahut5106

4 жыл бұрын

Daniel Gandhi I am a Jewish Canadian. I know for a FACT that Phoenicians came across the Atlantic Ocean and over into the Gulf of Mexico on its North Side they found The Mississippi River. They Phoenicians had previously been there and up that river. 2700yrs ago, during the reigns of King David and his son, King Solomon they went WAAAY North up that River into what later became Canada. On the North Shore of there has been found Hebrew and Phoneician things. GOLD, SILVER and NICKLE. But they mined the first two as it was used for the VERY First Temple in Jerusalem, Isreal.

@pedrogouveia4326

4 жыл бұрын

@@peterblahut5106 seems far fetched

@phillippe.m40yearsagoand62

4 жыл бұрын

@JP JP phoenicians are form Lebanon not Lisbon

3:40 - That Irish way of writting with lines is actually reminescent of the Quipu: An ancient south American way of writing with strings (Physical lines instead of ingraved ines)

@davidrosner6267

5 жыл бұрын

Are you suggesting contact between the Medieval Irish and the Andean civilizations?

@KaiserFredVIII

5 жыл бұрын

Quipus are really only superficially similar. They weren't used for writing exactly, but as a data recording system for numerical record-keeping. They are more more similar to a semasiographic system - comparable to something like musical notation or road signs, but it lacks many of the characteristics of a "full" writing system. Plus, they are really old. Like, potentially thousands of years old. If anything the influence should be the other way around.

@Rynewulf

5 жыл бұрын

Thing is Ogham didn't necessarily have those lines. Sometimes they did, but mainly the 'lines' that connect the script were actually just the edges of the stones they would carve the notches into (but there are some examples with the connecting lines, it just doesn't seem to be common). The through line is only regular in modern Unicode Ogham, which is designed for print and computers

@daniellanctot6548

5 жыл бұрын

@@davidrosner6267 - I wasn't suggesting anything but even less that. But it shows that similar forms of writtings can spring up without a common ancestor; so those lines in North-America might not have anything to do neither with the Iris script nor the Inca Quipu...But it was an interesting similarity.

Just throwing my hat in the ring, saying that humans had a much bigger and way more casual exchange back then, than we can or want to believe.

As time goes on, we will clearly know more about possible earlier explorations- intentional/accidental! A side fact not commonly talked about is that it was not the Viking who discovered Iceland, but Irish Hermit Monks, who were they're about 100 years earlier! So it is not unusual, that they could have explored the America's!!

Nobody History Channel : we have actually come to inform you it was aliens

Love the video but I wish you had mentioned the Malian fleet led by Abubakari II recorded by Al Umari.

@theghosthero6173

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed, although he very probably never reached half the voyage

@deogthepoeg7872

5 жыл бұрын

Love your discord, even tho I'm a lurkboi

@coolbule1238

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think he knows that Africa had civilizations. given his African geography video.

@lilcorsam2242

4 жыл бұрын

@@theghosthero6173 I think there's more evidence of the Malian voyage than the this supposed Roman voyage that I'd never heard of

@theghosthero6173

4 жыл бұрын

@@lilcorsam2242 what evidence is their for Mali actually? Nothing as been found in the Americas that elude to them, no linguistic, archeological, no DNA traces, nothing. The fleet never returned and could very well simply have been lost at sea. We don't know a lot about western African vessel as much as we do about Swahili ones, but it's clear they weren't as strong. In my eyes it's either a legend meant to teach a lesson to the reader of the tale, a false account to cover an historical event we don't know, or a real fleet that got lost at sea.

You forgot to mention the voyages of Zheng He. Some Asian historians say he also reached America and parts of Australia.

@moekontze116

2 жыл бұрын

there is a book I read a long time ago, it titled China 300 or something like that. it was fascinating, they moved around checking out other places around the world. it mentioned their journey past New Zealand and saw native people the Maoris. They stopped n collect some plants, left some monuments and carried on. I wonder if that is how the Gooseberry got to New Zealand, which is called a kiwifruit. Anyone who loves reading stories of Ancient times should read that book. I found it very interesting

@zairatulumierah9436

Жыл бұрын

It Austronesian

keyword: FIRST everyone for some reason thinks that means he didn't discover it Columbus DID discover America. If I'm traveling around looking for a certain location but find a different location instead, a location I had no knowledge of before, I DISCOVERED that location. dis·cov·er verb to find (something or someone) unexpectedly or in the course of a search. To discover something does not mean it did not exist before you came upon it nor does it mean that someone else didn't discover it before you. History books were not wrong nor misleading about this fact. Y'all just don't grasp the English language apparently.

@katherinegilks3880

2 жыл бұрын

He discovered it for himself, sure. The problem is the Doctrine of Discovery, which basically states that Europeans had the right to claim the land because it was considered uninhabited. Basically “finders keepers”. The Europeans considered Indigenous peoples to be wildlife, not people, and that stereotype continues today. Saying someone “discovered” America continues that stereotype. Words evolve and they are not neutral. More accurate to say Columbus arrived in America and made modern Europeans aware of it.

@vidaliatheonionqueen

2 жыл бұрын

@@katherinegilks3880 yes words evolve but the definition of "discover" has remained the same 🙄 so no, it is not more accurate to say he "arrived". just because yall are uneducated and misunderstand the meaning of a word doesnt make the statement less accurate

@katherinegilks3880

2 жыл бұрын

@@vidaliatheonionqueen From your comment, it is clear that you are less educated on this than I am, so let me teach you. The definition of the word may not have changed, but the connotation has. Rather, the connotation has always been there as I mentioned in my previous comment, but it is now being recognised as wrong. (Wrong as in both morally and logically wrong, not simply wrong as incorrect.) Just because a definition stays the same, or appears to do so because of the dictionary, doesn't mean that the meaning doesn't change or that a secondary meaning doesn't become more popular. Also, with a language as widespread as English, words have different meanings to different peoples and the dictionary doesn't capture that. Take the word "kid" - it means "baby goat" but now means "child" or even "young person". In NA anyhow, if I ask you if you have any kids, you don't assume I am referring to goats. (It isn't even seen as an informal word, like it is in some other places. Then you get to other places where English is more recent and "kids" just means children except in the dictionary.) Why are you so hung up on Columbus? Why is it important that he did or didn't "discover" anything? His voyages had a big impact on global politics, economy, and climate, among other things. His arrival in America is still a big deal. It just shouldn't be celebrated, since part of that big deal was a genocide and mass death of millions of people. He certainly never set foot in the US.

@vidaliatheonionqueen

2 жыл бұрын

@@katherinegilks3880 youre wrong and im not going to sit here and write out why. no one implied he jad the right to do anything because he discovered america. that is your irrational twisted interpretation of whats been said. im not hung up on Columbus. the more important question is why do ypu people always resort to accusing people of being "hung up" or obsessed with something just because they take some time to discuss it or point something out about it 🙄🤦‍♀️💁‍♀️

The biggest difference with Columbus vs all other discoverers of the Americas is that Europe capitalized on his (re) discovery via colonization and massive economic investment which did not happen with the other discoverers. Why? I don't know and can only speculate as to why others did not capitalize on the Americas discovery prior to Columbus. What I do know is that Spain had just driven out the Moors needed new sources of economic capital and thus had a massive economic and political (European politics, al la Game of Thrones) reason to invest in the new world. Was Spain's support of Columbus prompted by the recollections of old maps and stories by those who had gone west and wrote or spoke of untouched lands, possibly. Regardless, of what one thinks of Columbus himself or his legacy, it was his (re) discovery and Spain's economic and political situation that prompted Europe to settle the New World for good or ill.

@RomeoDeliciousSmoothies

5 жыл бұрын

You must realised your comments because European Conolonized with MASSIVE DESTRUCTION TO HUMANITY AND OUR PLANET with SO CALLED ECONOMIC which it does NOT PROVIDE US NO POSITIVE RESULTS BY MODERN SLAVERY. The Planet gave us all the NATURAL RESOURCES WE NEED FOR FREE WE DON'T need NO DISGRACE PAPER to buy anything.... Wake UP people!!! It just Governments MONOPOLY...

@vvventure

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, also, the colonization and explotation of Americas resources by europeans, is what really gives them the advantage to be unrival in the world. Prior to that, Europeans (after the romans) only held influence on the mediterrain at most outside the continent and even there, the muslims were winning the race

@Dell-ol6hb

5 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Allexon I guess the reason Europe exploited the New World as opposed to every previous exploration and discovery of the continent is because Europe at the time were far more technologically advanced than the previous explorers such as the Norse Vikings and so they could use this tech to support their colonization efforts.

@vvventure

5 жыл бұрын

@@Dell-ol6hb I think the answer is more complex than that. Europe didnt have this intention of colonizing the americas in the beginning. In fact, the continent was a pian in the ass, something they desperately search for a passage to todays indonesia. They have the technology to sail in open ocean thanks to Portuguese advancements in sailing. But thats it. The nordics also could send a lot of colonies to north america to settle, but they decided to hold back. There is probably an answer already made by the historians. But my guess is that eventually, after exploring a way out to the unknow pacific, they witness local people wearing and using precious metals everywhere and also new resources (as tomatoes, sugar, etc).

@Vlad-sj5yw

5 жыл бұрын

"The biggest difference with Columbus vs all other discoverers of the Americas is that Europe capitalized on his (re) discovery via colonization and massive economic investment which did not happen with the other discoverers. Why?" The world, the technology, the amount of resources at hand and the amount of people were vastly different in the time of the Polynesian visiting, the 1000's with the Norsemen and the 1400's with Columbus. I'd say Columbus was an idiot since what he tried was to reach Asia, the Spanish rolled the dice with him (perhaps they, as you said, had some idea of land that way) and by a stroke of luck he found the Americas instead of dying in a Pacific-Atlantic super sea. By another stroke of luck, this was now a time where the technology, population and economy could handle to start colonizing such a place. Such is history a lot of the time.

I swear you went from like 40K to over 200. Keep up these crazy well produced videos

@feynstein1004

5 жыл бұрын

Lol that's because he did. I commented on one of his videos when he had just 12K subscribers. Within a month of that, he had 200K.

for those curious, there is a doco called "cocaine mummies" where traces of tobacco leaves (along with other plants from the Americas) were found in wrappings of Egyptian mummies. Good watch for people who like a show that raises questions. It was a while ago that I watched it so I don't remember all the details in the show

@eeeaten

9 ай бұрын

debunked, you can easily look this up.

@adolforuiz6031

8 ай бұрын

@@eeeaten yes 👍💯🧾 proof Debunked

The story of St. Brandon is kinda insane considering the volcanic activity and the glaciers. Wild.

*roasting columbus for 14 minutes straight*

@tttyuhbbb9823

3 жыл бұрын

He has been "roasted" for > 500 years!

@SuperTonyony

2 жыл бұрын

He was a slaver, a pimp, a torturer, and a murderer. No criticism of him can be too harsh.

@josephwilliammarek9566

2 жыл бұрын

Columbus was a murderer who also enslaved people.

Just Google Ogham and you'll immediately debunk those markings. Historical Ogham was mainly written as a series of notches along the edges of standing stones, not in a line fashion on surfaces. That type of Ogham was invented in the last half century to display Ogham in Unicode for computers as a method of translation and preservation. So either those markings are recent fakes, a different non-Irish system or just a bunch of pretty lines

@Samo762

5 жыл бұрын

he mentioned this being unique to the Celts, but honestly it's just a bunch of lines, it could be anything

There are Sumerian artifacts with cuneiform writing and bronze objects in a museum in Bolivia, and there are indications that the Sumerians had contact with the Brazilian natives, sharing some words of their vocabulary with them and leaving some unexplained monuments in Brazil and Bolivia.

@macarde10

3 жыл бұрын

It isn’t odd to find artifacts displayed in a museum. All that is odd are your claims which I’m sure you can prove with publications of academic research right? So enlighten us, I too wish to read what you read? I too wish to see these examples of contact and unexplained monuments? I too wish to see the shared words? Please don’t keep this hidden, allow us to see for ourselves. There should be ample evidence right? The Sumerians who already had many diseases should have left a mark with the spread of disease across the Americas. Oh wait, that didn’t happen until Columbus arrived. Well certainly the Sumerians were able to share their genes with native Americans? Oh wait, we don’t find that at all. Well certainly you must have the loan words? I mean not one linguist agrees with you but you must have them, right? Well they must have carried food with them for the months long travels in their riverine boats? I’m sure that they could go back and forth with out food for months at a time, in those cute little boats, without any foods, seeds or animals to eat or spread between the continents. Oh wait, that doesn’t happen until Columbus arrived. How can we explain all of this? I look forward to your sources!

@fbrkdgsvvtbrjehr1440

2 жыл бұрын

@@macarde10 where the diesels from simarian

I think that the Americas were "discovered" many times, by many different groups of people around the world. It is also true that the 'New World' didn't STAY discovered by the 'Old World' prior to Columbus. The question of occasional Old World ships being taken by the winds to the pre-Columbian Americas raises the interesting question as to whether the *reverse* has ever happened. Specifically, have any Mayan, Aztec or Inca ship ruins ever been found along the shores of Europe, Asia, Africa, or Polynesian?

Such an amazing video collecting all these well foundamented possibilities. Bravo

3:54 These are tool shaping and resharpening marks. I work as an archaeologist out in the West, and these are fairly common in some areas. Usually, it involves shaping and maintaining bone, antler, and wood tools.

@leobragaurbe

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great video! Given that Polynesian's colonized Easter Island, it seems pretty reasonable to assume they made it to other parts of South America. Likewise, it's pretty Eurocentric and frankly racists to think that no one from the western most parts of Africa made it to the eastern most parts of South America. People are people the world over. We discover new lands and resources.

In Polynesian Mythology, Kumara is bought by an explorer who made a trip to the heavens, the heavens being recognised by certain stars and this particular star being on their eastern horizon, in the direction of south america. Also, in the most famous of myths, the trials of Maui. The protagonist makes a trip to the mountains in the east.

They found Polynesian DNA among members of some tribe deep in the Brazilian jungle. In Mexico, they have a district named Sinaloa, which is not Spanish. In Polynesia, there are places called Hinaloa and Sinaloa. Also, the cooking method of some South American tribes are exactly the same as Polynesian’s. These are additions to evidence as the sweet potato, Polynesian chicken DNA and canoe styles found in the Americas. Stop being insecure and jealous of Polynesian navigational prowess. We can tell that some haters stink of insecurity and jealousy.

@falakeexdrolly3938

4 жыл бұрын

Yes true. The chicken bones are from the Polynesian chicken. It was assumed chickens were first introduced by the spannish. Also the southern California Chumash tribe. use a Polynesian type canoe. The style in weaving used is Polynesian boat making. And the phonetic pronunciation of the vessel are similar. Also a close friend of mine voyaged from cook islands on a replica vaka our people use to voyage with to California. www.cookislandsvoyaging.org/ Our history and culture runs deep. We definately know we did not drift from the east unknowningly into Polynesia. We sailed to the America's and returned. Some stayed.

@coco_bold

4 жыл бұрын

You are probably right about Polynesia settling America, but who did it first, Asians through the strait of Behring or Polynesians? Also you are probably wrong about the word Sinaloa, the origin would rather be two words Sina and lobola, Sinalobola and then became sinaloa, but that can be debated.

@theephraimite

4 жыл бұрын

coco, and it could have became Sinaloa in Polynesia. By the way, I believe some of the ancestors of Polynesians came from the Americas, and some from Asia. They mixed and produced Polynesians.

@theephraimite

4 жыл бұрын

jeanferdi, Africa? Nope, that has never been proven to be an absolute truth. Scientists keep proving themselves wrong all the time. They said the earth was the center of the universe, not anymore. They said nothing’s older than the big bang. Then they discovered a star that is much older. They said the first humans in America were people from Asia, who crossed the Bering Strait. Then they discovered human remains in S. America that predate that. Science is always a moving target, not 100% bullet proof.

@coco_bold

4 жыл бұрын

@@theephraimite it could but it probably did not, you are cherry picking to find things that fit your theory. If there were thousands of words similar from those of Polynesians then why not, but finding one word that sounds Polynesian and then assume that it most be because Polynesia, is not valid, it's just a coincidence, specialy since the word probably is the fusion of two words that did not contain loa at first. A lot of words in Portuguese end with oa like lisboa and many words in maori finish also with oa, would you pretend portugal was founded by Maori? or that Maori language has anything to do with Portuguese? it's pure coincidence. Genetics also are not consistent with your theory. It doesn't mean the theory is wrong, it just means that other theories fit better. The Polynesian theory has to be proven, but with good science, the Sinaloa word is just BS wishful thinking .

Ancient africans be like: Let’s go to America, Winds in my area

@michaelponce1995

4 жыл бұрын

jajlertil no

@kaiyoung7326

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelponce1995 no

@IzichiUchiha

4 жыл бұрын

No

@hushpuppy1735

4 жыл бұрын

Nein

@bbeellaaddoonnaa9225

4 жыл бұрын

that’s fucking racist

The Solutreans, from the Iberian Peninsula. Artifacts have been found in Delaware and Virginia. Roughly 20,000 BC, about two ice ages ago. Travelled the edge of the ice bridge between Europe and North America.

@macarde10

2 жыл бұрын

That theory has been discounted by academia.

With a 4000 year old ocean going shipyard recently discovered in England, it brings to the attention the legends of the Welsh Prince sending a colonisation of forty ships to America in the 4th century and getting established, the legand says they were re-visiting so they knew it existed from prior knowledge or visits.