Who decides to start nuclear war | Annie Jacobsen and Lex Fridman

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  • @LexClips
    @LexClips2 ай бұрын

    Full podcast episode: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eYybqbRxe9uskdI.html Lex Fridman podcast channel: kzread.info Guest bio: Annie Jacobsen is an investigative journalist and author of "Nuclear War: A Scenario" and many other books on war, weapons, government secrecy, and national security.

  • @andrewgraves9636

    @andrewgraves9636

    2 ай бұрын

    Liquid!

  • @DemonetisedZone

    @DemonetisedZone

    2 ай бұрын

    Wtf, you couldn't find a gamer to debate with the academic this time?🤡😂

  • @marrz8244

    @marrz8244

    2 ай бұрын

    🙏✌️🙏

  • @andrewgraves9636

    @andrewgraves9636

    2 ай бұрын

    @@marrz8244 Peace Walker?

  • @christophernuzzi2780
    @christophernuzzi27802 ай бұрын

    Re: jamming the president - That's exactly what they did to JFK during the Cuban missile crisis. The advisors wanted him to launch a first strike against Russia, with one general famously stating, "Mr. President, if after a nuclear war there is one American left alive and no Russians, we win." JFK got up, walked out, and turned back to them at the door and said, "And we call ourselves the human race."

  • @Everthus4

    @Everthus4

    Ай бұрын

    i dont believe in it. But i believe Mao really said "communist vicory is worth half of china being dead"

  • @salutic.7544

    @salutic.7544

    Ай бұрын

    As lex said in the episode, I find it hard to imagine any contemporary president doing that. I could imagine some hesitating or being less trigger happy but if push comes to shove I see them all shoving.

  • @primus7776
    @primus77762 ай бұрын

    "In the Nuclear Era, the only enemy is war itself" (Crimson Tide)

  • @undertow2142
    @undertow21422 ай бұрын

    If John Bolton became president he’d be dropping nukes on day 1.

  • @BlueJay6441
    @BlueJay6441Ай бұрын

    She says "be aware of who you are voting for" when it comes to electing a President, meanwhile she says unelected bureaucrats could very well decide to override a Presidential decision if they subjectively believe the behavior behind the decision is "unstable"...so really it doesn't matter who you vote for, does it? Oh yeah, and the last time we had a "young, forward-thinking President" the CIA took him out, didn't they?

  • @ipeter7472

    @ipeter7472

    28 күн бұрын

    Yeah her statement is odd.Sounds suspicious to me.

  • @bcrnl9603
    @bcrnl96032 ай бұрын

    There wouldn’t be six minutes. Subs just off the coast launching hypersonic missiles would give seconds of warning, if that. (In my opinion)

  • @ChatGPT1111

    @ChatGPT1111

    2 ай бұрын

    There's also a hesitancy to be the one to hit the alarm button, especially after what happened in Honolulu a few years back.

  • @Rich-ey7jv

    @Rich-ey7jv

    2 ай бұрын

    That's why the hole Cuban Crisis was a waste. A couple years later, or maybe at the time, nuke subs were already off the US coast.

  • @avae5343

    @avae5343

    Ай бұрын

    We wouldn’t receive any warning because that would cause panic which would disrupt an evacuation.

  • @realityhurts8090

    @realityhurts8090

    Ай бұрын

    Only Russia has hypersonic missiles as of today

  • @Snakebloke

    @Snakebloke

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@realityhurts8090 India has tested hypersonic missiles, but they are not sub-based. Russia has the advantage at the moment, but not for long.

  • @gpn854
    @gpn8542 ай бұрын

    The government people worry about Saving Themselves , First .

  • @Defort-jd8xe

    @Defort-jd8xe

    2 ай бұрын

    Which is as expected. They only care about the power of the goverment. Democrats, Republicsns.. everybody. The US military for the past 80 years had this one use, nothing else. Thats why I laugh at people calling veterans heroes. They‘re paid killers for politcians. „Serving my country“ my ass

  • @GlacierSound

    @GlacierSound

    2 ай бұрын

    All People*

  • @eamonshields2754

    @eamonshields2754

    2 ай бұрын

    Obviously

  • @darklightprojector2688

    @darklightprojector2688

    2 ай бұрын

    T R U M P T R A I N A L L A B O A R D

  • @bororobo3805

    @bororobo3805

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes. It's the head of the collective. You cut it off everything goes haywire. Some of you wouldn't survive in a disorganized US of A 😂

  • @rguialdo
    @rguialdo2 ай бұрын

    Here's an idea. Tell the truth, treat countries with respect and Stop rooting for war.

  • @eldragon4076

    @eldragon4076

    2 ай бұрын

    The U.S. wants to rule the earth. The alternative is incomprehensible to them.

  • @ChatGPT1111

    @ChatGPT1111

    2 ай бұрын

    Are you serious? Tell that to China, a nation that plays 6 moves ahead and has for thousands of years.

  • @rguialdo

    @rguialdo

    2 ай бұрын

    @ChatGPT1111 you concentrate on China. I'm going to concentrate on the country I live in. Good luck

  • @mwiegand22

    @mwiegand22

    2 ай бұрын

    Sounds like what Trump was doing

  • @samuelhomer8885

    @samuelhomer8885

    2 ай бұрын

    What about the military industry complex how else are they going to make money ware is all the haters going to work not everyone will die you might get lucky

  • @RodanQQ
    @RodanQQ2 ай бұрын

    Take a shot every time she says “my book”

  • @justinc4924

    @justinc4924

    2 ай бұрын

    "my book details breaking information that the secretary of defense is a human. Nuclear war, gorbachov, dinner party guests. Where's the young guys to send nukes? Civil servant, fantastical"

  • @brinaldi81

    @brinaldi81

    2 ай бұрын

    Hammerd

  • @user-bu7hh3jd8k

    @user-bu7hh3jd8k

    2 ай бұрын

    Lol i came for this comment

  • @justinc4924

    @justinc4924

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-bu7hh3jd8k you can find this comment in my book

  • @user-gl4pv5vd9k

    @user-gl4pv5vd9k

    2 ай бұрын

    I get chills every time she says "launch on warning" launch on warning (LOW), military strategy that allows high-level commanders to launch a retaliatory nuclear-weapons strike against an opponent as soon as satellites and other warning sensors detect an incoming enemy missile.

  • @absolutelyreel8795
    @absolutelyreel87952 ай бұрын

    I have a hard time believing this 6 mins of chaos, as its being portrayed, hasnt been simulated in every way, shape and form possible.

  • @AviationSceptic

    @AviationSceptic

    2 ай бұрын

    It has been simulated, wargamed, and studied for decades. Once someone pops a nuke, whether it be tactical or strategic, the overwhelming tendency in the "simulations" end up with major exchanges. It's a problem, a big one, and opens many avenues for accidents, incidents, mal actors, etc. to at worst case do something to start it. If you doubt anyone would deliberately start a nuclear war, check out the "Millenials Religious Sect" in Iran.

  • @ChatGPT1111

    @ChatGPT1111

    2 ай бұрын

    How do you know what you don't know has been simulated? Is a simulation run 5 years ago by other people that have moved on of any use?

  • @Ztuber564

    @Ztuber564

    2 ай бұрын

    As someone who’s familiar with government. They almost certainly have training exercises at a regular frequency and varying scope.

  • @GamesCooky
    @GamesCooky2 ай бұрын

    It's hard not to get anxious about these weapons. The power they hold is beyond anything else in human history. Never before have we had the power to basically destroy every major city on the planet at the press of a button. The state of the world today is just depressing.

  • @EddyG0rdo

    @EddyG0rdo

    2 ай бұрын

    Meh…why worry? We can’t do anything about it. Anyway, we’d likely be dead once it happened anyway, so why does it really matter?

  • @Blue1Sapphire

    @Blue1Sapphire

    2 ай бұрын

    2000 yrs ago a man wrote down how this age would end and said it would be by fire, 2 Peter 3. Didn't make much sense until nuclear weapons were invented.

  • @GamesCooky

    @GamesCooky

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Blue1Sapphire I doubt nuclear weapons was what he had in mind when he wrote that.

  • @Blue1Sapphire

    @Blue1Sapphire

    2 ай бұрын

    @@GamesCooky Many prophecies written back then, were not fully understood. It was when they happened, the understanding was made clearer. That prophecy is certainly clear in today's world and a very real threat. In fact another prophecy in Matt 24:22 says," If those days were not shortened, no flesh would be saved". Certainly much more revelant in today's world of nuclear warheads.

  • @GamesCooky

    @GamesCooky

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Blue1Sapphire Prophecies are like the bible. Very much up to interpretation.

  • @dcproman
    @dcproman2 ай бұрын

    Lex, having had some experience with US nuclear strategy and with respect to your guest’s apparent view on that strategy. The following questions come to mind: 1. Is it not more important to ask if we can LOSE a nuclear war rather than whether we can win one? 2. How often, and when most recently, did the President participate in a full scale exercise of the nuclear decision process? 3. Do you really believe that any military officer, STRATCOM Commander or otherwise, should choose to not obey the President’s order to launch a retaliatory nuclear strike? If so, should that same officer also “surrender” to Russia, China or whatever other country launched a first strike against the US? 4. Does you guest have a better process she can describe what our nuclear strategy should be?

  • @ilovetech8341

    @ilovetech8341

    2 ай бұрын

    No one is launching a first strike. People are so mis informed on this issue now days. Short range tactical is the modern problem. Not long range.

  • @blipblop92

    @blipblop92

    2 ай бұрын

    Most people think Nuclear war is a total win, but in reality there is no winner in a nuclear war besides a bragging right. In a war, each side wants to gain population or land or infrastructure, when there aint nothing left after the war, there is no reason to start one in the first place.

  • @shinymike4301

    @shinymike4301

    2 ай бұрын

    First strike is First Strike, regardless of how far away it originated from.Lex avoids the real question, which is, "do we sit here and do nothing while the enemy destroys us?" @@ilovetech8341

  • @DeplorableJoe

    @DeplorableJoe

    2 ай бұрын

    There is no game theory, no government, sponsored military exercises or wargames that don’t result in a full exchange of strategic nuclear weapons, basically emptying the stockpile after the first use of a tactical weapon in any theater of war. The tit for tat escalation results in strategic global thermal nuclear war every single time.

  • @user-gl4pv5vd9k

    @user-gl4pv5vd9k

    2 ай бұрын

    Your questions require more than the 6 minutes allotted to answer. 6 minutes is the time it takes for a nuclear missile launch until it hits. We'll finish this discussion in heaven.

  • @cm2973
    @cm29732 ай бұрын

    This attitude actually undermines deterrence because it signals to our enemies that we might not hit back, hoping they will quit.

  • @penubly
    @penubly2 ай бұрын

    You get to the point where you are under attack, you don't have much time for discussion of strategy. At most, you decide on a prepared plan and give the order.

  • @darklightprojector2688

    @darklightprojector2688

    2 ай бұрын

    T R U M P T R A I N A L L A B O A R D

  • @ChatGPT1111

    @ChatGPT1111

    2 ай бұрын

    Exactly, just having a couple new major nuclear foes than we did 3 years ago, increases our chances of annihilation by one or two orders of magnitude. We no longer have the time to take the position that it is probably an error, so let's check to see if it is. We fooled around and found out that our foes do have the resolve to develop hypersonics and then we dared them to field those weapons. In 2024, all we have is oh geez, better take out the other half of the world because our half is gone too.

  • @LexxMachinima
    @LexxMachinima2 ай бұрын

    For the people living in fear of nuclear war - remember that the end of the human race can happen in many other ways, some of which are even scarier. There are many doomsday scenarios; like the world's largest volcano eruption, AI, collision with an extraterrestrial object, our own Sun, etc. So many other things can end all life as we know it suddenly and without warning, besides nuclear war. It's simply sadder if we destroy ourselves instead of the reason being something external. On an individual level, you can die today from thousands of random causes. So it's just too much to even think about, and you shouldn't. There are so many things to fear, that if you think about them, you will never truly live. The moral of the story is to accept all of these things beyond your control and that you can do nothing about them. Be conscious of your mortality and that this life will one day end, for that is the ultimate truth of your existence. You can't argue with it, only pretend that it's not true or procrastinate your understanding of it. What follows from this understanding is, a lot of irrelevant bullshit that you think about will go away and you will focus on the things in life that truly matter, because you realize there's no time for bullshit. There's no time to live in fear. Treasure each moment, live truly and accept your death when it comes - there is nothing else you can do even if you wanted to. You've heard that a human life is a story? Just like a story, it's not the beginning or end that matters, that makes it a story, it's the inbetween.

  • @Solstice42

    @Solstice42

    Ай бұрын

    Fear, no for all the reasons you express... but educated and able to vote for people that are in power to appreciate the responsibility... required in my opinion.

  • @KS-jn5pv

    @KS-jn5pv

    Ай бұрын

    Honestly some extremely powerful points there mate !

  • @KS-jn5pv

    @KS-jn5pv

    Ай бұрын

    A lot of a kids these days need to hear these things same as the whole mental health stuff I suffer from bipolar but you can’t let something define you I don’t take medication I train Muay Thai and smoke a little weed from time to time or have a couple drinks with GOOD friends. You can’t spend all this time worrying about things you can’t control, as you say you’ve got to make the story be what counts! The beginning and end is irrelevant , it’s the in between you’re remembered for, so don’t spend year blaming your ‘condition’ go out there and get it!!

  • @El_pedro81

    @El_pedro81

    Ай бұрын

    But what about zombies???!!!lol!!!

  • @robertweekes5783
    @robertweekes5783Ай бұрын

    15:00 when Lex said no one could possibly obey the order, consider that there are degrees to this. The scenarios are not just “all out war,” or nothing. Limited launches and responses are also possibilities, (as slippery slope they may be)

  • @imCurveee
    @imCurveee2 ай бұрын

    Another issue with having a potential commander refuse orders to launch from the president is that if your enemies know this they have an incentive to conduct a first strike. You need to convince the enemy that any strike will be retaliated against, no questions asked.

  • @d-foxweb-design2170
    @d-foxweb-design21702 ай бұрын

    People call your mom and tell her you love her

  • @lifeasadreamrecords4479

    @lifeasadreamrecords4479

    2 ай бұрын

    I just called your mum and told Her i love her

  • @Larbr000
    @Larbr0002 ай бұрын

    To her point about Putins paranoia, the dead hand system is a great example. Lets say we get hit by a high powered solar flare, there is a high probability that the system would initiate a full launch without any threat present. Scary stuff.

  • @DemonetisedZone

    @DemonetisedZone

    2 ай бұрын

    Paranoia 😂 Jesus Christ your ball deep with the propaganda narratives 🔸Putin's Useful Idiot 🔸Putin bombed Nordstream 🔸Putin will march to Paris 🔸Putler 🔸Putin attacked Crocus He is crazy isn't he that Putler🙄

  • @tonystales4724

    @tonystales4724

    2 ай бұрын

    The US satellites in orbit have almost caused an accidental launch once. But no mention of that because she is "unbiased"... Right. Sure. On the subject of paranoid leaders, I find her statements so one-sided. She says this as though Nato is some peaceful organization that just wants to put massive weapons systems and troops closer to Russia year after year, to foster peaceful relations. Just another worthless communist cow.

  • @avae5343

    @avae5343

    Ай бұрын

    It has to be activated first. The system isn’t just left on.

  • @thedude2867

    @thedude2867

    Ай бұрын

    It isn't possible. There is still a analog component to any intercontinental missile launch.

  • @mickiegriffin825
    @mickiegriffin825Ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing

  • @roulanjames1067
    @roulanjames10672 ай бұрын

    One reason we can't get good pres candidates is the way they're treated now. Any minor moral stumble or misdemeanor is magnified by the other side and magnified, they are constantly harassed and persecuted by the press, their family is also harassed

  • @dr5255

    @dr5255

    2 ай бұрын

    I agree

  • @sandrawilliams4874

    @sandrawilliams4874

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, they start digging around all the way to your college yearbooks to see if they can find something to embarrass you and/or your family.

  • @GreenPancakes

    @GreenPancakes

    2 ай бұрын

    I've also thought that this is a huge problem. Someone would have to decide when they are 12 years old that they want to become a politician and then live perfectly to that. Completely unattainable.

  • @adamcummings20

    @adamcummings20

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@GreenPancakesYeah, and this reinforces the existing political dynasties and nepotism, like over here in the UK where most Tory politicians went to the same expensive private school and studied the same thing and all know eachother, basically bred from birth to be in politics.

  • @darwel007

    @darwel007

    2 ай бұрын

    Good point That's why you end up with total losers as presidential candidates and the same is true for the Congress.

  • @ExploreWyoming
    @ExploreWyoming2 ай бұрын

    I’ve read every single one of Annie’s books and LOVED them. She’s a great writer. I’m looking forward to her book nuclear war when it comes out next week

  • @Thunderpussy1234

    @Thunderpussy1234

    Ай бұрын

    She's a Trump hater going on about "behaviour" and answers questions with "buy my book". In nuclear conflict, i want a calculated cut throat winner at the wheel: TRUMP.

  • @festermann
    @festermann2 ай бұрын

    Nice job Lex ! Good interview.

  • @CandC68
    @CandC682 ай бұрын

    This is not the complete question. The part they miss is "who is responsible for setting the stage for a nuclear event, whether it is an intentional strike/counter-strike, OR error/accident?" Just the idea that all the pieces are in place for using a nuclear weapon... only needing an event or decision to trigger it... is irrational. "Oops", or "I'm sorry" mean nothing. We have devolved as a species that this is possible.

  • @ramtron1775
    @ramtron1775Ай бұрын

    "I would defy orders". Lex would get us slayed.

  • @theunseenstevemcqueen
    @theunseenstevemcqueen2 ай бұрын

    1 kind of person makes strat commander: someone who's made that their military career goal. I could see a dove making that their goal specifically to be the guy there so as to not launch. But then the officer next to them probably shoots them so idk.

  • @ChatGPT1111

    @ChatGPT1111

    2 ай бұрын

    I would think they would have drills and tell them any one of them could be a drill just so they have the 'one gun fires a blank' excuse.

  • @untouchable360x
    @untouchable360x2 ай бұрын

    It comforts me to think that in the darkest days of war. Absolutely nothing is happening in most parts of the world.

  • @nancetardiff339

    @nancetardiff339

    2 ай бұрын

    Ignorance is bliss, ain't it? American medias don't report on half of what's going on around the world...and there's plenty

  • @netsiteing
    @netsiteing2 ай бұрын

    6min is just a reaction time to put into practice what should already have been defined as part of the Nuclear Doctrine (which should detail processes and targets and type of response).

  • @jesseshires4036
    @jesseshires40362 ай бұрын

    Honestly if you turned the pod cast more into the ideal of preserving knowledge from the greats before they pass away would be awesome . You could make a digital archive better than any book because you can hear tone of voice laughter and sarcasm

  • @OLMasterChief

    @OLMasterChief

    Ай бұрын

    Look up Memoirs of ww2, they do just that.

  • @jfp17
    @jfp172 ай бұрын

    Interesting segment. I’m looking forward to hearing the whole interview. For anyone interested look up Stanislav Petrov. The world owes him a debt of gratitude. I wonder if anything similar has happened here in the US.

  • @BeansMcGriddle

    @BeansMcGriddle

    2 ай бұрын

    You're not interested in her books?

  • @mahdakarkab3512
    @mahdakarkab35122 ай бұрын

    Fantastic topic

  • @ryany4326
    @ryany43262 ай бұрын

    No one was asking you to make the decision. The decision has been made for you- now we rely on you to defend.

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    @user-bh9oi5ms7o2 ай бұрын

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    @jordansmith6959

    Ай бұрын

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    @InfuzeDcyphR

    25 күн бұрын

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  • @DeplorableJoe
    @DeplorableJoe2 ай бұрын

    The most destabilizing weapon of war that we have currently, is the ground based siloed intercontinental ballistic missiles. Those cannot be recalled, and their positions are well-known and easily eliminated by an enemy. The entire problem with nuclear war is launch on warning because of the “use it, or lose it” catch-22 that six minute decision making window Is entirely dependent upon. The Air Force wants to replace the Minuteman III with something new that will be just as vulnerable and not add a single minute to the short window of decision-making when it comes to actually fighting nuclear war. You could add days weeks and even prevent an all out exchange without a launch on warning Mandate.

  • @kaipirinha8871

    @kaipirinha8871

    2 ай бұрын

    Very true what you say.

  • @bobconaway

    @bobconaway

    11 күн бұрын

    "Launch on warning" became the practice *because* the land-based forces are vulnerable. When I was first in the nuclear forces and the (then Soviet) missiles were so inaccurate we planned to absorb a first strike knowing we'd still have a large portion of the force intact for counterstrikes, and maybe diplomacy to have a chance. These days the opposition's missiles are more accurate and there are more of them. We are also much weaker now, with far fewer strategic weapons. It's a paradox that as we wound-down the numbers of weapons those remaining became more valuable. Now we can't afford to ignore any threats, so "launch on warning" is the only way.

  • @ChatGPT1111
    @ChatGPT11112 ай бұрын

    Ultimately, our fate depends on our willingness to not push one maniac to his limit. We don't have a clue what his limit even is, yet we keep poking him in the eye.

  • @FoulWeatherFriend385
    @FoulWeatherFriend3852 ай бұрын

    Also, didn’t a study once estimate that like 1/3 of the technicians at the missile stations would refuse to turn the launch keys? Makes you wonder if even more than that would refuse in a real time situation.

  • @matt15saints

    @matt15saints

    2 ай бұрын

    If nukes were sent at us first there would be no one that wouldn’t return fire. This logic only applies to a first strike scenario

  • @FoulWeatherFriend385

    @FoulWeatherFriend385

    2 ай бұрын

    Would they even have time to know if there were nukes inbound?@@matt15saints

  • @bobconaway

    @bobconaway

    11 күн бұрын

    No such study in real life. I was one of them. Hear me on this: We *would* launch, no question. And I was then - and now - as far away from a "war hawk" as it's possible to get, but knowing what was about to rain down on the heads of everyone I knew and loved just strengthened my determination to do my duty. No "war hawks" in the silos, by the way. We made sure of it. Those types are too unstable and are never allowed around nuclear weapons.

  • @Bloodhound_Dogg
    @Bloodhound_Dogg2 ай бұрын

    The launch codes and launch command to ignite a nuclear weapon is ordered to be launched every training cycle sometimes every week so as somebody who holds the keys to the nuclear launch path, you would not know if it was an actual launch or just a training mission so you can’tlogically deny the order to launch the nuclear missiles because you don’t know if it’s for real or if it’s just a trading mission But with that being said, the Soviet union actually gave the order one day to nuke the United States, and it got all the way down to the rank-and-file keyholder, and the submarine just off the coast of Florida, and he refused to launch the nuclear missiles saving mankind

  • @avae5343

    @avae5343

    Ай бұрын

    It wasn’t an order to nuke the US but to use nuclear equipped torpedoes in self-defense. The sub in question was being depth-charged by a U.S. Navy destroyer.

  • @bobconaway

    @bobconaway

    11 күн бұрын

    Um nope - practice messages are apparent in the first few seconds. And that Soviet incident you refer-to concerned an officer in one of the C&C Centers inside Russia, and an inaccurate radar indication of a massive missile launch coming over the Pole. An "out of the blue" situation which was the first strong hint that something was wrong. Yes, that officer is a hero. No, the Soviet leadership never did order a nuclear attack.

  • @dadgerm
    @dadgerm2 ай бұрын

    Everybody is a critic until they are being criticised. No critic has the guts to even run for president

  • @darklightprojector2688

    @darklightprojector2688

    2 ай бұрын

    T R U M P T R A I N A L L A B O A R D

  • @TM-ey5py
    @TM-ey5pyАй бұрын

    Lex, hands-down, has the best podcast on KZread.

  • @InterviewU
    @InterviewUАй бұрын

    “I would refuse orders”.. that deeply angers me. I wonder if I’m correct or not with my initial emotion. A lot of thinking to do…

  • @knownbeforeitsknown
    @knownbeforeitsknown2 ай бұрын

    You should interview Moran Cerf on this topic! He has been working with the pope, homeland security that they are trying to change how the choice is made

  • @L3tz13egin
    @L3tz13egin2 ай бұрын

    I've heard (during the Cold War)Argentina is the safest place to be at in the event of a nuclear war. Can anyone tell me why?And, is it still?

  • @benjaminperez7328

    @benjaminperez7328

    2 ай бұрын

    WW 3 would be fought mostly in the Northern Hemisphere. Not many targets of interest in South America…..maybe Rio, Some in Colombia, Venezuela…. Argentina would be in a large “clear zone”

  • @ilovetech8341

    @ilovetech8341

    2 ай бұрын

    Papa New Guinea

  • @ChatGPT1111

    @ChatGPT1111

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ilovetech8341you'd be eaten by headhunters

  • @avae5343

    @avae5343

    Ай бұрын

    @@benjaminperez7328Right. And what would people down there eat? How do they grow food?

  • @benjaminperez7328

    @benjaminperez7328

    Ай бұрын

    @@avae5343 The same way they grow food now? 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @NglNPC
    @NglNPC29 күн бұрын

    It depends on who fires first and how much

  • @JudicialMaxim
    @JudicialMaxim2 ай бұрын

    Circumstances.

  • @sicknado
    @sicknado2 ай бұрын

    Thus why I'm always impressed when people say things like why would aliens be interested in us.

  • @DG-vx6fo
    @DG-vx6fo2 ай бұрын

    I imagine the commander would always press that button bc their orders would come with the briefing that a country already used them first, so at that point youll get confirmation that your home is about to be destroyed so letting the attacking nation live while you die will never enter the mind of a human who follows orders enough to be in such a position

  • @racoimbra
    @racoimbra2 ай бұрын

    The problem with a widespread nuclear war is not whether it can be fought and won, but that nuclear ammunition runs out long before the war. This is not a war of conquest, but one of weakening or making the enemy unviable. We have never had the capacity to destroy humanity, but with much less than a widespread nuclear war we can destroy current civilizations and the entire structure of comfort and power, of cheap and quality goods... For this reason, and not because of the deaths, there is no political enthusiasm for a widespread conventional or nuclear war. But such a war is inevitable, like a large asteroid or volcanism.

  • @Blindsyde5762
    @Blindsyde5762Ай бұрын

    Great conversation. More people should be talking about this. I would disobey the order too.... Which is why they'd never put me in that position.

  • @furmanodell
    @furmanodell2 ай бұрын

    When commanded to launch a retaliatory strike in response to being under attack, Lex would refuse the order. Thank God Lex isn't given that power.

  • @26michaeluk

    @26michaeluk

    2 ай бұрын

    A Russian man responsible for the actual launching disobeyed orders to fire on the United States. Their radar thought a flock of birds was a nuke. He saved humanity.

  • @user-jm8fw3ir1t

    @user-jm8fw3ir1t

    2 ай бұрын

    Can I ask you what is the point of a retaliatory strike? I mean you would never see or ever be aware of the impact of the strike. It's kind of pointless to launch a retaliatory strike since it would bring absolutely no benefit to you.

  • @InFideScientiam

    @InFideScientiam

    2 ай бұрын

    @@user-jm8fw3ir1t Are you stupid? If a bully punches you, the punch you give back is "retaliatory" in nature. You don't feel the punch that the bully receives but it stops you from possibly getting pounded more without mercy. If you just sit there and take it, you might lose your life. A retaliatory strike isn't just for retribution, it's defensive in nature.

  • @MROJPC

    @MROJPC

    Ай бұрын

    @@user-jm8fw3ir1t 1. What do you think would be the answer of the victims of the nuclear strike? What would be the answer of their surviving families? 2. The idea that a retaliatory strike is pointless... imagine the day after America is a victim of a nuclear attack and fails to retaliate. Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un, the Ayatollahs, Xi Jinping. Imagine your future where these are the new masters of the world's destiny. 3. The projection of resolve prevents that you do not have to answer question 1 and question 2. That is the nature of deterrence.

  • @furmanodell

    @furmanodell

    Ай бұрын

    First it acts as a deterrence if the other side knows you'll respond in kind. Second, the first attack may just be a few missiles so a responding strike neutralizes any further attacks.

  • @workerdrone970
    @workerdrone9702 ай бұрын

    The 1983 Able Archer incident was a launch on warning scenario; they definitely were not going to absorb a damn thing.

  • @marqusee
    @marqusee2 ай бұрын

    I love her voice so much!

  • @alexstone1492
    @alexstone14922 ай бұрын

    I wonder why Russia distrusts NATO… 😂

  • @karlfunke4106
    @karlfunke41062 ай бұрын

    is that a Dimebolt on the shelf behind Lex?

  • @nextNME666

    @nextNME666

    2 ай бұрын

    yes! \m/

  • @CamoCoos

    @CamoCoos

    2 ай бұрын

    Coca Cola zero sugar

  • @rickrickard8765
    @rickrickard87652 ай бұрын

    For him to choose from the Denny’s type menu Awesome

  • @onemysore6120
    @onemysore61202 ай бұрын

    I think she needs to articulate why she considers a strong and aggressive response to a nuclear attack a mistake or the most risky because it’s not clear to me that such a response wouldn’t be appropriate.

  • @darklightprojector2688

    @darklightprojector2688

    2 ай бұрын

    T R U M P T R A I N A L L A B O A R D

  • @besomewheredosomething
    @besomewheredosomething2 ай бұрын

    This really sounds like a scaremongering piece.

  • @ChatGPT1111

    @ChatGPT1111

    2 ай бұрын

    Yet every major conflict and catastrophe was preceded by warnings. This particular conflict is led by one man who fields more nukes and megatons than any one nation, perhaps all the others combined. Oh and half the world's leaders want us to believe he is unstable for good reason.

  • @TanukiDigital

    @TanukiDigital

    2 ай бұрын

    Putin Bad! Trump Bad! Biden Bad! Basically. She seems to be a shill of the globalist managerial class who want the end of nations and individual freedom on this planet.

  • @IvanMrsicStudio
    @IvanMrsicStudio2 ай бұрын

    The song "Russians" by Sting comes to mind: "There is no historical precedent To put the words in the mouth of a president There's no such thing as a winnable war It's a lie we don't believe anymore."

  • @anthonysneddon2465

    @anthonysneddon2465

    2 ай бұрын

    Absolutely no chance he’s stupid but not that stupid. America will be 20 years + ahead of them technology wise

  • @holdforth724
    @holdforth7242 ай бұрын

    I could imagine the stratcom commander watched this clip at some point given his position and it might just have some impact on their decision making process and execution of orders.

  • @thedude2867
    @thedude2867Ай бұрын

    You guys are forgetting about our space based missile defense systems. Remember the"Star Wars Missile Defense Initiative " started under Regan in the eighties? You think they gave up on that ?

  • @DJB6969
    @DJB69692 ай бұрын

    One’s a senile warmonger and the other kept us out of multiple wars but has judgement issues? Just because some partisan judge or prosecutor tells you so doesn’t make it true 🤔

  • @rklkify

    @rklkify

    2 ай бұрын

    lol what wars has trump kept america out of.

  • @LoganChristianson

    @LoganChristianson

    2 ай бұрын

    Ah yes, the hasty pullout of Afghanistan, leaving our allies in such a rush, the entire system collapsed basically overnight. Such warmongering going on there.

  • @DJB6969

    @DJB6969

    2 ай бұрын

    @@LoganChristianson he’s funding 2 wars right now, so yes by definition ole senile is a warmonger

  • @DJB6969

    @DJB6969

    2 ай бұрын

    @@LoganChristianson also I think everyone agrees with pulling out of Afghanistan, the issue was the incompetence with which there was no strategy.. he also tried to blame trump for that and said it was his idea 😂

  • @ilovetech8341

    @ilovetech8341

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@rklkifySyria

  • @GuyDownTheSt
    @GuyDownTheSt2 ай бұрын

    The world changes a lot quicker than we perhaps realize.

  • @ThomasJScharmann
    @ThomasJScharmannАй бұрын

    A great time to revisit Stanley Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove . It speaks to this loudly and clearly.

  • @JohnathanRebel2
    @JohnathanRebel2Ай бұрын

    My advice to you after the bombs have hit is to go to the grocery store and grab salt, sugar, rice, pasta, dried beans, and most importantly water.

  • @dirtypure2023
    @dirtypure20232 ай бұрын

    She's clearly anti-Trump and implies he is somehow less qualified to make a judgment on a live nuclear launch situation than other recent presidents. I reject the premise.

  • @eileenmcchrystal8471

    @eileenmcchrystal8471

    2 ай бұрын

    I think they’re all incompetent. It worries me that the US president would have a global impact. Not elected by my country.

  • @dirtypure2023

    @dirtypure2023

    2 ай бұрын

    @@eileenmcchrystal8471 Some less so than others certainly. But she speaks as if Trump is somehow uniquely unqualified, even less so than Biden? Come on now.

  • @eileenmcchrystal8471

    @eileenmcchrystal8471

    2 ай бұрын

    @@dirtypure2023 no problem dear I’m in the U.K. they both seem like balloon heads 🤷

  • @dirtypure2023

    @dirtypure2023

    2 ай бұрын

    @@eileenmcchrystal8471 It's slim pickings for quality candidates throughout the Western world. Almost every major option is a blatant partisan now, no one genuinely seems to simply have the people's best interest at heart. Like it's by design. I quite like Vivek Ramaswamy in the US but I think it was the right call to bow out this race since Trump is clearly destined.

  • @eileenmcchrystal8471

    @eileenmcchrystal8471

    2 ай бұрын

    @@dirtypure2023 I know what you’re saying 👍

  • @ITSRAYANNNN
    @ITSRAYANNNN2 ай бұрын

    Putin said something about like “we won’t be the fist to launch a nuclear weapon, we won’t be the second or even third “

  • @joekey8464

    @joekey8464

    2 ай бұрын

    Putin loves his power and his loots, he would not throw it all by starting a nuclear war. Iran is a totally different thing. These zealots seek martyrdom...

  • @smithnwesson990

    @smithnwesson990

    2 ай бұрын

    And his word is worth what now? He has literally been razing Ukrainian cities to the ground because..... Soviet Union? 😂 Seriously

  • @w.m.e.cantinoobtrader1334

    @w.m.e.cantinoobtrader1334

    2 ай бұрын

    @@smithnwesson990 meanwhile usa destroyed dozen of countries and only country to every use nuclear bomb, the bad guy is not russia or putin but USA deep state :) everyone with common sense and logic can see it. USA also letting israel murder 10s of thousands in Gaza, its disuqusting how the usa and west differs ppl and ppl.

  • @Bern1808

    @Bern1808

    2 ай бұрын

    @@smithnwesson990 Agreed. Without demonizing him as so many do, it's very fair to observe that he has zero fidelity to the truth. He is wholly untrustworthy.

  • @fontende

    @fontende

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@smithnwesson990by iranian drones whole cities? Your word is same like his.

  • @sdshaibi8489
    @sdshaibi84892 ай бұрын

    Real talk listen 🎧 up ⬆️

  • @matthewphilpott1702
    @matthewphilpott17022 ай бұрын

    Anyone could launch the A-Bombs, don't kid yourself... Doesn't take much to enter parameters into a targeting system.

  • @mrtacobout-it3640
    @mrtacobout-it36402 ай бұрын

    Love how she says, "One candidate has a cognitive problem, and the other candidate has a judgment one." What are you talking about??? She's only describing Biden. I'm no Trump fan, but he did not have any judgment problems. He had the country running strong.....meanwhile Joe is on the verge of ww3.

  • @RolexMan-nr6fg

    @RolexMan-nr6fg

    2 ай бұрын

    You’re biased

  • @waynekensicki4718

    @waynekensicki4718

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@RolexMan-nr6fg I couldn't bring myself to vote last time and I'm voting Kennedy this time. But if you can't see that there was relative peace in the world (outside of America) under Trump and Biden appears to not give a s*** . Mr Rolex man your bias has done blinded you.

  • @josephtrujillo6882

    @josephtrujillo6882

    2 ай бұрын

    when will you all learn it does NOT matter whos in office. this point in human history was envitable. ww2 never ended folks. russia, china, europe and the usa were all just arming up for the next one. godspeed everyone.👽

  • @anthonydavis9382

    @anthonydavis9382

    2 ай бұрын

    Trump had great judgement. People hate on Trump because it's a "fad," or it's something you're "supposed to do."

  • @randykintzley5923

    @randykintzley5923

    2 ай бұрын

    Trump wanted to nuke a hurricane.

  • @leszeknagooglach
    @leszeknagooglachАй бұрын

    - President Biden, you have 6 minutes to make a decision about a nuclear attack. After 6 minutes. - What's your decision, Mr President? - What decision?!

  • @Realestshit1
    @Realestshit12 ай бұрын

    14:55 would you defy if it was a counter strike to 20 nukes Lex?

  • @matt15saints

    @matt15saints

    2 ай бұрын

    That’s why I think no commander would hesitate. A first strike would probably cause hesitation. But a retaliatory strike command would be followed without question

  • @nicolaerazvan5185

    @nicolaerazvan5185

    2 ай бұрын

    @@matt15saints What information is fed to the bunker locked individuals? Who is doing the feeding? Everything falls under need to know, plus there would be total information black out in case of nuclear war. Once the system is put in motion, chaos ensues.

  • @matt15saints

    @matt15saints

    2 ай бұрын

    @@nicolaerazvan5185 a nuke doesn’t automatically knock out communications. Just launching a warhead won’t take down the power grid. We’d have time to communicate and respond. Like they said 6 minutes. the top military brass would know the situation. The person whose job it is to coordinate a retaliation would by definition have to know what was going on. Don’t get into the weeds and over complicate it. NORAD would call the pentagon, who would call the White House who would then give the order. The nuclear triad would be put on immediate standby as soon as nuclear launch was detected. The nukes don’t just magically go up. It takes a human to prepare the launch sequence. So people would again just by definition have to be informed of the situation. Nobody outside of military command would be giving information to the president and others whose job it is to “press the button”. So idk what you mean by “who’s feeding them information & who’s doing the feeding”. It’ll literally be the joint chiefs of staff just like every other military crisis

  • @jamesknapp64

    @jamesknapp64

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah, Lex is only thinking of first shot; I doubt the launch codes are given unless attacked first right now.

  • @alexandercaptures7759
    @alexandercaptures77592 ай бұрын

    Finally something interesting

  • @DocMC86
    @DocMC862 ай бұрын

    She has the sexiest voice ❤

  • @curtiselmore727
    @curtiselmore7272 ай бұрын

    Did neither of them see War Games? She sounds just like folks used to in the early 1980s

  • @ilovetech8341

    @ilovetech8341

    2 ай бұрын

    A lot has changed since the 80s. People are misinformed.

  • @dougkimzey4518
    @dougkimzey4518Ай бұрын

    I really appreciate the author's emphasis on moral leadership. It would be a big breath of fresh air to have leaders who could be trusted to do the right thing for our nation and the world. We have seen the decline that occurs when lawmakers spend the majority of their time attacking each other and spinning the attacks into "making America great again". The loss of credibility and legacy is immediately apparent. The thought of entrusting an arsenal of nuclear weapons to our elected representatives in a world primed for larger conflict is disturbing.

  • @renoir4964
    @renoir4964Ай бұрын

    In the graphic for this clip the missiles shown are Soviet SA-3 anti aircraft missiles. They’ve got nothing to do with nuclear weapons.

  • @dudedabsworth8023
    @dudedabsworth80232 ай бұрын

    RFK Jr. looks better and better every day.

  • @benjaminperez7328

    @benjaminperez7328

    2 ай бұрын

    Get real.

  • @Ed_Lima777

    @Ed_Lima777

    2 ай бұрын

    Dismiss him at your own peril

  • @waynekensicki4718

    @waynekensicki4718

    2 ай бұрын

    Compared to everyone else you are correct. Check out Kennedy's State of the Union. Much more in touch and insightful then anyone else in the running.

  • @dom_diggity.1488

    @dom_diggity.1488

    2 ай бұрын

    He’s a Zionist who has one of the most radical rabbis as his advisor. He’s a hypocrite when it comes to war and genocide

  • @acolyteaxiom4054

    @acolyteaxiom4054

    2 ай бұрын

    Rfk Jr is a known Russian shill. He is paid directly by Russia and its ON PAPER

  • @oliviaandlittlejoejoe4620
    @oliviaandlittlejoejoe46202 ай бұрын

    Come on..with the knock against trump. Are u kidding me. "Non presidential ". Are you a joke lady No respect!!! Biased obviously

  • @bobconaway
    @bobconaway11 күн бұрын

    1st 3 minutes - No Annie, no targeting decisions within those "6 minutes." All of those decisions have already been gamed-out and the various strategies formalized. The Plans are done ahead of time. Faint possibility of choosing between a few Plans but likely it's just a "go" or "no go."

  • @tonysoprano1454
    @tonysoprano14542 ай бұрын

    Her voice is soothing

  • @Indrid__Cold
    @Indrid__ColdАй бұрын

    This author is so full of herself. She acts all humble, but she's really just condescending. She's just regurgitating old history like she's the first one to ever think of it.

  • @spencersmith1652

    @spencersmith1652

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed. Very unlikeable.

  • @carlosdanger3374
    @carlosdanger33742 ай бұрын

    Ignore her. Invite Joel Skousen on for an interview on policy of nuclear war

  • @ilovetech8341

    @ilovetech8341

    2 ай бұрын

    Joel knows his stuff. Too much old misinfo floating around this issue. People are still going off 1960s info.

  • @Scorch428
    @Scorch4282 ай бұрын

    I sure hope its on a Monday so I dont have to go to work.

  • @nancetardiff339

    @nancetardiff339

    2 ай бұрын

    On a monday NIGHT. so we can all enjoy the fireworks

  • @matthewbryant958
    @matthewbryant9582 ай бұрын

    Sad thing is there are to many nukes in existence today, impossible to get rid of them

  • @c_s_8411
    @c_s_84112 ай бұрын

    There is only one President in my lifetime that has not involved us in a foreign war. So, I would argue that while he might hurt feelings, he didn't get our young ones killed for pointless wars. I would agree that he could have communicated differently, but he did it his way and that is why he will be on Mt. Rushmore one day. I enjoyed this video, it was informative and if at all possible maybe do another with Ms. or Mrs. Jacobsen she seems to know her stuff.

  • @randykintzley5923

    @randykintzley5923

    2 ай бұрын

    Afghanistan, the entire time.

  • @blake4453

    @blake4453

    2 ай бұрын

    Instead of concede the election, he attempted to up end the democratic process and convinced a minority of Americans to no longer have faith in our elections. He is not a true American and his followers are false patriots.

  • @mandingo1917

    @mandingo1917

    2 ай бұрын

    @@randykintzley5923are you dumb? He’s referring to any NEW wars.. not to mention trump plan was to slowly withdrawal to get our troops out. He started that process towards the end of his term, Biden took over and decided to pull all out at once and look how that ended up, complete failure lost soilders and weapons. Research before you speak next time.

  • @dandywankers

    @dandywankers

    2 ай бұрын

    Get off the kool-aid

  • @ElanMorin
    @ElanMorin2 ай бұрын

    remember the South Park episode with the San Francisco people sniffing their own farts all the time? that's this woman.

  • @gregnielson7975

    @gregnielson7975

    2 ай бұрын

    😂😂 South Park perfectly described woke leftoids in SF...

  • @meng737
    @meng7372 ай бұрын

    The Joint Chiefs, particularly Lemay, "jammed" JFK. (Queue Dallas jokes in 3...2...1..)

  • @paulsaragosa371
    @paulsaragosa371Ай бұрын

    Actions are fastest then thy reactions

  • @Jorge-cs6yv
    @Jorge-cs6yv2 ай бұрын

    We have never been closer to nuclear war as we are now. I believe that the current situation is far worse than the Cuban missile crisis.

  • @benjaminperez7328

    @benjaminperez7328

    2 ай бұрын

    Read a book. FFS.

  • @kevinkingmaker7395

    @kevinkingmaker7395

    2 ай бұрын

    Russians are hell-bent on restoring the Soviet Empire. If that should fail?

  • @joekey8464

    @joekey8464

    2 ай бұрын

    Atheists will not commit suicide, earth is all they have. But there is a new threat, the fanatics seeking martyrdom.

  • @ether23-23

    @ether23-23

    2 ай бұрын

    @@benjaminperez7328 Wow, what an insightful comment.

  • @benjaminperez7328

    @benjaminperez7328

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ether23-23 I don’t suffer fools gladly…….like you 🫵🏼🖕🏼

  • @anthonysummers3446
    @anthonysummers34462 ай бұрын

    I don't think Trump has an issue with his judgment! He has demonstrated excellent judgment of the political swamp we have in Washington and he has demonstrated that his foreign policy is anti war and non interventionists which is very good judgment in my opinion.

  • @surfdevo

    @surfdevo

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly, their assessment of Trump’s judgement is flawed as Trump actually promoted peace. Abrahamic Accord?

  • @SarasWickedCreations
    @SarasWickedCreations2 ай бұрын

    YAY! Anne Jacobson!

  • @elessartelcontar9415
    @elessartelcontar94152 ай бұрын

    As the Russian or Chinese missiles approach, any president would order The Single Integrated Operational Plan (SIOP) which was the United States' general plan for nuclear war from 1961 to 2003. The SIOP gave the President of the United States a range of targeting options, and described launch procedures and target sets against which nuclear weapons would be launched. The plan integrated the capabilities of the nuclear triad of strategic bombers, land-based intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM), and sea-based submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBM). The SIOP was a highly classified document, and was one of the most secret and sensitive issues in U.S. national security policy. It has a new name and acronym, Operations Plan (OPLAN) 8044. Since July 2012, the US nuclear war plan has been OPLAN 8010-12, Strategic Deterrence and Force Employment, but the same purpose.

  • @jnkoa33
    @jnkoa33Ай бұрын

    Trump has judgement issues? TRUMP 2024 AND FOREVER

  • @pensgator
    @pensgator2 ай бұрын

    There is no question that Trump has exercised far better judgment in foreign affairs, preventing now existing wars , and warning about the real existential threat of nuclear war as opposed to CO2..

  • @saxet812004
    @saxet8120042 ай бұрын

    Lol Lex, Agist? You mean the late 20/30 somethings with Low Vocal Burnout Pitch chirping in the ears of the poltical appointees that chirp into Dark Brandon's brain(what's left of it)

  • @TheMayoDon123
    @TheMayoDon1232 ай бұрын

    I think its feature thay allows for nuclesr deterrent and the big of someone actually launched a nuclear weapon. Take cold war or today of Russia/ussr thought they could cripple nato/US(or vice versa) without threat of erupting a nuclear war they probably wpuld strike first

  • @MrBAchompBAchomp
    @MrBAchompBAchomp2 ай бұрын

    Kennedy 24

  • @acolyteaxiom4054

    @acolyteaxiom4054

    2 ай бұрын

    Rfk Jr is a known Russian shill. He is paid directly by Russia and its ON PAPER

  • @justicegusting2476
    @justicegusting2476Ай бұрын

    Carl Sagan’s “Pale Blue Dot” Enough said.

  • @kylecrawford3455
    @kylecrawford34552 ай бұрын

    Where is that candidate? Vivek

  • @rmorgan4358
    @rmorgan43582 ай бұрын

    Lol. Using nuclear weapons isn't about being the "big dog" it is obedience thru fear...

  • @brianhannah4206
    @brianhannah42062 ай бұрын

    Many times, if i hear a strange sound in the sky, like the rumble of a plane or something like that, I Imediatly think, "Oh no, is that Russia? Is everything over?" And then im like,"Phew, just a plane. "