My favorite part was the old mod page faq. "How much fleet power do I need for the crisis" "yes".

@ultraflopp2802

3 ай бұрын

Their power is overestimated, if you have the perfect runic tech from “Secrets of the shroud” then they’re not a threat

@elvangulley3210

3 ай бұрын

@@ultraflopp2802 so who is stronger who would win a war between them and the boxcat things

@samfaber5378

3 ай бұрын

@@ultraflopp2802 Ah yes, if you use the ridiculously OP mod, something not balanced for that mod is no longer a threat! Who would've suspected that?

@samfaber5378

3 ай бұрын

@@elvangulley3210 In-game, the blokkats win because the Stellarborne aren't coded to interact with their game mechanics (the vester shield) In-lore, Blokkats might be able to win a tournament, if they really try hard against a tournament scaled for them, but if it is more, "a war", then Blokkats are doomed to fail. There is nothing they can do.

@ultraflopp2802

3 ай бұрын

@@samfaber5378whoops, I thought that this is also an official ACOT’s submod but no! Bra it perfectly ties with lore because of the Spiritualistic fallen empire contacting you during the tournament and claiming that you shall not fear because The Shroud shall provide us with the instruments to repel the invaders

Look, the problem with that galaxy the story was based upon is that no race was batshit insane enough to build a quasarcraft for self defense.

My pompus purists ass : ”Nice invitation. It goes into the trash”

The lore behind this mod is absolutely mental. If anyone wants to learn the backstory of the Stellarborne, you just need to copy paste the document links on the mod pages. Hats off to the mod author for all of this.

@markfreeman4727

2 ай бұрын

i've tired looking for that but i don't find anything about lore, only bug fixes and such, am i looking in the wrong place?

@shadowstar1002

Ай бұрын

@@markfreeman4727Also search for Beyond the Gates on the Stellaris workshop.

This "Shadow" sounds like a good endgame crisis

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

Indeed

@valjamin8456

3 ай бұрын

@@TheRedKing @kw8295 In actuality, the Shadow's description matches extremely well with another entity known as FSAE 1000, or the End of the Cycle. The entity behind the blueprints of the Aethrophasic Engine Doomsday device among other things. After all, Gigastructural Engineering lore states that the End of the Cycle seeks to consume all Shallow Shrouds, and all the souls contained within them in order to grow stronger. (It accomplishes this by tricking empires into building Aethrophasic Engines through false promises of godhood, when in reality once it's activated the engine devours the galaxy's Shallow Shroud and integrates it into FSAE 1000's being.) Given the Stellarborne just stated that the Shadow "seeks to bring all beings into part of itself," and the fact that the FSAE 1000 does exactly this, wouldn't it thus make sense for the Shadow and FSAE 1000 to be the exact same entity?

@samfaber5378

3 ай бұрын

@@valjamin8456 It does not, if you take ACOT lore into any consideration. Gigastructures lore and ACOT lore are fundamentally incompatible and any such attempt to merge them is doomed to failure. The Shadow is much more powerful than anything encountered in-game, it is not something so weak as to rely on "aetherophasic engines" and silly shroud schemes.

@samfaber5378

3 ай бұрын

It would not be a good endgame crisis as there would be no way to defend against it, nor does it interact with Stellaris mechanics at all. It's not something you can shoot with a ship, it is a battle of wills. To even stand a chance you need to have picked to ascend as a Stellarborne first, and the mechanics of such a battle could only be represented as a series of events, nothing more as it does not play out on such small scales as a galaxy.

@matiasrodriguez7408

3 ай бұрын

Perhaps The Shadow itself is what we mortals know as death, and its tools are greed, ignorance, division.. everything that prevents sapient beings from exceeding their limits, thus preventing them from conquering reality and time (since that would mean freeing yourself from being absorbed by The Shadow in the end)

Guh do the prime collective they’re a super cool crisis. They start out as 2 systems that has a barrier that covers the entire systems. They just awakened a few minutes ago in my game.

@entropybear5847

3 ай бұрын

Commonwealth Series baddie, nice.

A bit more technical info about the Stellerborn Crisis. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stellerborn are equal to Bismuth Blokkats, but are much, much easier. They only release 3 ships from each gate at a time, but they have the most powerful ACOT weapons and such, often take awhile to beat their initial ships. However once you research their unique tech after beating a few ships, the crisis becomes far, far easier as they will give you their low level tech. (Lorewise, you have static light, they have flowing light.) They will allow you to 'surrender' once at which point they will become non hostile to you so you can rebuild your fleets and try again, but they only give you one 'break'. They will also change genocidal empires to be a 'redeemed' version of themselves. They are meant to be fought at around 2350 or so using default settings. You will be unable to research all of their ship components as they will deny you from researching one group of them. its recommended to research weapons and shields, as aux ship components from the stellerborn aren't that amazing compared to runic/sigma tech. If the crisis goes on for long enough, they will eventually send more and more ships in each wave, but it takes quite a while before they do this and at that point you should be able to roll over them anyway. They will also offer once you've researched a fair amount of their tech, to spawn a ton of ships for you to fight them with. There is no downside to accepting their gift and they often offer this when your fleet is powerful enough to take out the crisis. When you beat them, you can choose to 'ascend', which changes your empire type and will break a lot of other mods. Or you can tell them to go away which keeps your empire the way it is. "ascending" makes you into a very broken empire with every tech researched and newer ACOT ships that are even better than the precursor ships you've been using since then. AND you'll get the stellerborn tech they use on their own ships. (The third option, to make fun of them, will cause them to activate their entropic engine and destroy the galaxy) If you have Gigas, Blokkats will disable flowing light tech if you ascend and they spawn, as the setllerborn want to 'test your abilities with a superior foe'. Additionally if you have Gigas and the Kaiser sends ships to a gateway system, he'll hack all the gatekeepers and add them to his fleet. (You can do this as well, if you have researched the Alpha reactor and never met the gatekeepers before, and manage to talk to them before they go hostile.) Additionally if you spawn AS the stellerborn, which you can do, and if you have Gigastructures, Blokkats will be set to their hardest difficulty, Obliterator, as you are insanely OP.

@samfaber5378

3 ай бұрын

Ascending as stellarborn no longer changes country type. Just for clarity: Any Gigas-ACOT interactions are only for fun gameplay, they are not canon to the lore of either mod and should not be treated seriously for lore discussions, just in case someone becomes confused by that.

@noneofyourbusiness4133

2 ай бұрын

They also don’t disable flowing light. I had full sunrises fleets no issue.

Now this is something to throw the Dimensional Horror or The End of the Cycle at.

@azwanajeeb2167

3 ай бұрын

No, everyone cannot match against Stellarborne. These guys have the power to manipulate the universe itself. Even creatures if the shroud fears them. When the fight with the player empire there gives many handicaps, they even give us permission to use one of their technology if we manage to destroy one of their fleets.

@bgcvetan

3 ай бұрын

@@azwanajeeb2167 Now that sounds like fanfic of a early teenager, my character is stronger than your character because i said so.

@ultraflopp2802

3 ай бұрын

@@bgcvetan they’re literal gods, merciful gods because they do not annihilate you for betrayal of your ancestor and after beating their tournament allow you not to accept their proposal of becoming a champion of light. Do this is not “they’re strong because I said so”, like, what can you expect from such a powerful faction? Throw even more fleets on you? No. They will straight up annihilate you out of existence

@infinityc2859

3 ай бұрын

@@azwanajeeb2167 Obliterator Blokkats?

@so0meone

Ай бұрын

The Stellarborne end the Horror by blinking in its general direction my dude. ACOT adds 5 more tiers of tech. Stellarborne tech is tier 10, it's exponentially more powerful than anything in the base game and the Horror can be killed with base game tech.

I once got as far as having it triggered by an AI, barely holding on initially until I could overpower them with the multiple Systemcraft that were still under construction, assisted by some useful FE attrition. And with the power and resources gained from winning that tournament... ...I still got my ass handed by the Lux Aeternum after. I haven't tried since because lag becomes monstrous at that point in the game, especially with the massive pop increase ACOT allows for.

I swear if I look in the comments and someone commented "Pizza 🍕" (2nd)

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

I see a pizza 🧐

@WildZander506

3 ай бұрын

@@TheRedKing Me to and it's lunch time!

@snowyboi2462

3 ай бұрын

🥔

@SaltyRADC

3 ай бұрын

I happen to be waiting for a pizza right now

"Ah, The Stellerborne. . .your greatest challenge any shall ever face few will ever manage to beat them I Know this. I only hope that they see the brightness of your minds. and at the very least...are quick." Once again a great video! It's nice to see people talking more about ACOT. as silly as the mod can be at times. I do really love the mod. (Wouldn't help work on it otherwise lmao.) I do hope that at the very least you might do a video on if you *win* the tournament that takes place. (Though might be ideal once the lore is a bit more fleshed out on the win side of things.) But. Either way, Really enjoying the videos. (Also I saw the Phanon in the background. love those silly guys lmao. even if the lore they have in game is not even close to done at all lmao.)

The "Shadow" is an ancient being that seeks to bring everything to a part of itself... harming the harmony of the universe itself Wait, is that the Blokkats?

@ghostttriddder

Ай бұрын

Nope, Stellarborne have addressed the Blokkats as another tournament player.

@kerbodynamicx472

24 күн бұрын

@@ghostttriddder thats no fun :(

@samfaber5378

23 күн бұрын

@@ghostttriddder Not lore canon. Remember, Gigas, ACOT lore is fully incompatible and all interactions are just for gameplay fun

Stellarborne: "We are the Stellarborne." Me: "And I don't care. Screw your tournament. *Activates Aetherophasic Engine*"

Pizza 🍕

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

But what toppings?

@Mxdsleazy

3 ай бұрын

Pepperoni is the best

@art-games6230

3 ай бұрын

@@MxdsleazyMargaretha is the best, it’s the basis of every other pizza

@boiboi505

3 ай бұрын

Pineapple

@art-games6230

3 ай бұрын

@@boiboi505 that’s heresy against the emperor

I know exactly who The Stellarborne are and I keep them turned off for a reason.

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

Smart

@Venom_9390

3 ай бұрын

@@TheRedKing I know it doesn't really have lore in it but are you familiar at all with The Star Trek mod for Stellaris? It really expands the types of ships and ship components.

@dolphinwarlord6908

3 ай бұрын

What are they

@Venom_9390

3 ай бұрын

@@dolphinwarlord6908 a god damn nightmare.

@kw8295

3 ай бұрын

you just have to prepare for it, best hope imo is Gigastructures systemcraft as anything else will get blown out of the water

Yes! He finally covered ACOT Now do the Dark space Origins mod

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

I'll add it to the list :)

I won the tournament the first time I fought it, but didn't come any closer to understanding the Stellarborne. I feel like they're a referrence to something else. Winning, but denying the ascension or threatening them will just make them ctrl-alt-delete your galaxy.

@arskos

3 ай бұрын

Denying ascension doesnt insta kill everything If you threat then yeah

@Helman114

3 ай бұрын

@@arskos Its a little crappy though. I wanted to fight them more, lol

@scoopidywhoop7484

20 күн бұрын

@@Helman114 exactly. I hoped they just thew a more powerful force at me, not instakill.

Hey, as long as you're doing big/cool mod content, I strongly advise looking into doing a short video/series on Twink's Eternal Empires. There's a Spiritualist and Materialist version that incarnate as seperate societies with seperate focuses. There's also Eternal Machine empires, which didn't work quite right at the time when Twink abandoned the mod and the current keeper hasn't added them in because they were broken. The concept of the Eternals however, is really awesome. They can easily reshape the hyperlane network to their will, turn stars into white holes, build system-wide, physics-defying megastructures and gigastructures out of materials foreign to the lower planes, and each individual has godlike power that allows them to conquer entire, advanced planets by themselves. They would go really well with the Stellarborne and ACOT.

I like it, and the previous report. Though I have to say, this is not base ACOT, rather a addon called Sectets Beyond the Gates (SBTG), or Sins of the Fallen Empires (SOFE).

@vamadgaming6424

3 ай бұрын

@TheRedKing If you heart me, can you at least reply?

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

Yes

Stellarborne arrive give a overwhelming huge one sided beat down to the Blokkats, Aeternum, End of the Cycle, and Fallen Empires? Gargantuan Quasarcraft: "Finally a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!" Or will it turn out to be another Quasarcraft stomp?

@guilhemraboud7808

3 ай бұрын

The healing factor on omega tier is so insane, the game can register it as damage instead. As for the dmg, take a vanilla max tier ship component, then multiply it by 1.3 6 times. And you roughly get the stats of omega tier component.

@samfaber5378

3 ай бұрын

Quasarcraft wins ingame because it is just an incredibly OP mod (unless you use the Almighty Stellarborne unofficial submod, which you should do, if you want to stay lore accurate since the Stellarborne are meant to scale their difficulty of the tournament to the galaxy, and also because a challenge is more fun). Blokkats also win ingame because game mechanics (Vester shield) unless you again use the Almighty Stellarborne unofficial submod. In lore, of course, if it is not just the weak projections being used for a tournament, Stellarborne win against all the above with zero difficulty.

@thorshammer7883

3 ай бұрын

@@samfaber5378 Almighty Stellarborne mod? Dang how many submods are there I need to keep track of? I am aware of the Blokkats shield gameplay issue which only the player can overcome. Just what does Almighty Stellarborne do?

@xzardas541

3 ай бұрын

@@thorshammer7883 Adds broken buffs to broken faction so they can still stomp with broken mods enabled.

Sooooo the traveler from destiny is the omega and the stellar born are the guardians

The REAL Tournament of Power begins

@thorshammer7883

3 ай бұрын

Let's add some other sci fi universes to join the conflict. I'm sure the Downstreamers and Stellarborne would get along underneath the shelter of the Omega.

@dasheroo1229

3 ай бұрын

you say that but goku would clap

@ultraflopp2802

3 ай бұрын

@@dasheroo1229 *…would get his cheeks clapped

@alterego9082

3 ай бұрын

@@dasheroo1229if he went to shroud he would lose his mind

@alterego9082

3 ай бұрын

@@thorshammer7883bro, downstreamers would not notice Omega, they would no diff even Xeelee

First gotta say i love your content man! I would recommend using the downscaled ship patch if it's compatible to your other mods, really esthetically pleasing and stop models from merging. Keep it up and never forget how amazing you are!

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tip, I'll take a look! And thanks for the kind words

@kiefer6568

3 ай бұрын

Of course, thank you for the amazing content,I hope you're having an incredible day!!@@TheRedKing

But of course, the one true enemy of existence is the Great Panada, the Lord of Retcons and Bad Writings (And procrastinating). It is this great entity that constantly changes the stats of the mod stuffs and has neglected to update the SBTG Workshop page for the longest of times!

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

Procrastination is indeed the true enemy :) good to see you Chiru

its me,im the stellarborne (spoiler)

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

Please be nice to us!

love to acot videos💕

*Happy Ravenous Devourer noise who just got redeemed and no longer hungry*

How will the Phanon Corp and SOFIA react and plan to counteract the Stellarborne now? If the Stellarborne arrived to Warhammer 40k they would do the Eldar a good favor by one shotting the Chaos god Slaanesh by absolutely obliterating her down to the last Warp particle being annihilated. I wonder if the Interim Coalition of Governance stands a chance against the Stellarborne.

@thorshammer7883

3 ай бұрын

​@@drwhat524 The Silent King was on board his planet size ship the Throne of the Silent King watching a Stellarborne Herculean come out from the edge of the solar system as it quickly made it's way closing the distance of a hundred AUs away to a Tyranid hive tendril activating it's trillions of weapons systems and reducing the Tendril which comprised of 50 trillion Tyranid vessels into fully cooked burnt chucks of vaporized meat drifting in the void of space. All it could say was this upon seeing such a magnificent vessel utterly obliterating the Great Devourer's tendril. "....Well... this is a massive starship. I don't think even Trazyn can steal it. This is going to be a problem for all the Necron dynasties."

@samfaber5378

3 ай бұрын

Well, in ACOT lore, Stellarborne is a very new thing. Phanon Corps and SOPHIA wouldn't be aware as galaxies are isolated when the tournament begins, so no information reaches the rest of the universe. Even if they did know, SOPHIA would not oppose or counteract them because they're created by and working with the Omegans, the people she worships as gods. And the Phanon Corps while they might want to counteract them, have no hope of actually doing anything against something so much more powerful

@samfaber5378

3 ай бұрын

​@@thorshammer7883 "Stellarborne Herculean" There are no such things. Although they could make one if they want, but why copy the inferior designs of the people who copied your creators? (FEs copied their ship styles from the Omegan Diplomatic Vessel, and Omegans created the Stellarborne). They'd just make a Gaia Arkship, of variable scale and capability as they desire. After all, all the ships are but a mere projection of their power, created by the Light.

@thorshammer7883

3 ай бұрын

@@samfaber5378 To be honest I don't know all the names of ships of Ancient Cache of Technologies. I'm new to it so I am just assuming those massive ships whose models are like a Herculean are called that. I have to call it something because I don't know what the real name is despite how many videos or sources I try to check out.

@thorshammer7883

3 ай бұрын

If the Omega is truly that strong we are going to need something full blown like the Downstreamers to contend with the Stellarborne. Forget Xeelee Sequence.

Once I opened the gates after getting stellarite and they were shocked that there was a race that contained stellarite

Today is a good day. We will not delete the lore, as promised

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

Playing without all the submods is other experience honestly, without any offense to they creators of course. Acquisition of Technology allows far wider implementation of stellarite components than could be ever hoped without it, since ACOT itself limits production of stellarite to one building per planet, or facing consequences that actually hurt. And don't even start with Phanon great wall. Secrets of the Shroud allow to fight with stellarborn on more or less equal ground in terms of ship capabilities, wich kinda defeats the point of them being overpowered. Of course in both cases you can just turn up difficulty, but fighting stellarborn with endless stream of quickly churned out Alpha component equiped cannon fodder ships from voidspheres vast resources while struggling to get as much stellarite to build ships that can even approach stellarborn vessels power should be similiar experience to my first fight with a crisis on high difficulty; mainly, desperation and emotional train of fighting against if not impossible, then close to it, seeing 20 titans butchered as if they are nothing, using all of the fleets your great civilisation created in accordance to your gingerly crafted ship designs losing more than a half of they numbers even in victory, and when facing just little chunk of enemy forces? That is quite the experience, and vanilla crisis could no longer provide it after some time.

@taelim6599

3 ай бұрын

Base acot doesn't limit you to one stellarite production building per planet anymore, that was changed in an update a long time ago. There are two ways to blow up a planet with stellarite, neither of which have anything to do with the number of production buildings: 1. Turn on stellarite overcharge in the decisions, and then ignore the *multiple warnings* the game gives you that something is starting to go wrong and you need to turn it off. 2. Deliberately blowing up the planet via a decision, which was added mainly for the purpose of being a final "fuck you" to invading fleets.

ayyyyyy your finally doing this mod! nice!. now you can tackle all those crazy chinese mods after this one's done. there are some crazy shit lore in those things.

Little do the stellar born know some screw up of a human Admiral is going to figure out one of their weaknesses by complete accident, and even if he gets killed afterwards he’s going to send his son who he made a captain cause of corruption to get word back to the capital so there is a slight chance of survival….at lest that’s my head cannon lol would be a funny consent

I'm currently playing as Stellarborne start and I have a good 80% of the galaxy primed and ready for their invasion and the galactic core under my wing just in case they try something funny so I am so ready for this and watch as their ships burn in the ashes of my weapons

the omega and the shadow sound like the war in the 3 body problem

I can already hear atrox voice I told you not to go inside

the gate looks like a Protos stargate

I prefer vanilla stellaris lore, but i appreciate the existance of a fan canon

@dominic5386

3 ай бұрын

The best bit of ACOT lore which feels like canon is that the fallen empires just go around wiping out civilizations across the galaxy every 5,000 years or so until they skipped a cleansing cycle and countless ftl civilizations all spawned in with nearly the same level of prosperity at the same time (game start)

And then stellaris was a anime

the most hardest crisis

Dang it Red King! I want to know what happens next. Do you actually join the order and become its new champion or do you simply gain the Omega tech?

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

If you beat them, you can choose to ascend, or you can tell them to leave and keep your empire as is. Ascending gives you some tech and new ships, including their tech, it's all very broken strong. You can always mock them, and they'll delete the galaxy... But in my few playthroughs I was utterly annhilated so thought it fitting to end the story that way. Their fleet power is insane, and as I wasn't also running other mods like Giga it felt a bit unfair. You'd lose even with 100x repeatables.

why in the world all ways want war

Shadows? Conflict between order and chaos? *Babylon 5 flashbacks*

@scpadministrator5944

Ай бұрын

ANCIENT ENTITY? SOUNDS LIKE THE OLD ONES TO ME!

Who are they? No idea, but they have fabulous hair.

Seems obvious the stellarborne are the baddies they say the evil assimilates and then they say their own goal is too assimilate lol

The Three shall return at the end of all things

@egg5796

3 ай бұрын

wuttttt

@CyberController-

3 ай бұрын

@@egg5796 They were there at the beginning, they will be there at the end, and their kingdom of existence shall collapes around them.

They may be the stellar born by i have the engine up i control the shroud

@samfaber5378

3 ай бұрын

Stellarborne: "You don't control the Shroud. The Shroud Masters do. And their combined forces would not be able to harm even the weakest, youngest of the Stellarborne. If you thought you could harm our true forms." "And trying to cheat your way out of the tournament with some shroud toys is not a good look."

DO THE LORE OF THE UNITED FLEET AND VOYAGE TO ETERNITY MOD!!!!’

Thank you very much for the video. I liked how in both parts of the stellarborne dissection you covered the overall narrative of the plot, despite how many retcons and overall changes the faction had in terms of lore and the plethora of ACOT submods. Personally, I like the stellarborne in a very weird way, from one point I hate how much of a “Nuh-uh the stellarborne you fight are the mere tiny projection of one entity and their actual empire is so powerful they can wipe you out with a blink”, as if it was a bad power scaling debate. On the other hand, I like the underdog stories, so when you have empires throwing punches with literal Gods, so their absurdly powerful presentation and their somewhat arrogant demeanor of “ah we didn’t exactly mean slaughtering your entire empire for a tournament, and we are sad now” or the “if we wanted to destroy you, it would not be anything but a swift and deadly execution” makes the feeling of punching them so hard, their entire outpost shatters into flowing light matter an incredibly rewarding experience.

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words 😊

Have just beaten Stellarborne, firstly agreed for their proposal, understood that the Perfect Runic is better than light energy and also your race is not capable of working at normal jobs anymore, downloaded back, rejected their proposal, now this universe is exclusively mine.

@samfaber5378

3 ай бұрын

Lorewise, no. Firstly, lorewise you wouldn't be able to do all that SOTS stuff in the first place, as it is non canon (Shroud Masters are canon, but a basic noncache monogalactic empire somehow managing to wake one up? No. Even if you could, now you have a large intervention of all major ACOT metaversal superpowers who really don't want another Sobrak crisis) Even ignoring that, the fact that Theta components are better than Omega components is game mechanics and does not represent the actual power of the Light. And ascending to Stellarborne means you've won the game, you have no need for any of that normal stuff. But the job changes were also a game mechanic, the country type change, which was removed as it was unnecessary.

@ultraflopp2802

3 ай бұрын

@@samfaber5378 could you please explain what Sobrak crisis is? Nihil says only “we got kicked out of normal shroud by the very same guys who gave mortals free will”. At very least that’s what I understood. Because there’s not a lot of ACOT lore out there (and if there is I bet that it is on some site which is currently blocked in my country, like the giga’s wiki on wiki.dot) I’ll be really grateful if you could tell me about that

@ultraflopp2802

Ай бұрын

@@samfaber5378 could you please tell about Sobrak crisis? I just can’t find info about it

Lets goooo new vid

"Lex" or ancient Empire mod Video when?

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

um, I've not heard of this?

Rogue servitor when?

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

Afternoon 😊

Mortal Kombat In SPACE

@bgcvetan

3 ай бұрын

More like Full Metal Alchemist with the Burning Legion.

I am one of the Stellarborn We're kind of a big deal.....

Can someone please explain them to me they sound interesting

@Adam-wg2rf

3 ай бұрын

If i'm not wrong they came in the new update mate .

@samfaber5378

3 ай бұрын

@@Adam-wg2rf No, this is neither vanilla update nor ACOT update. They are from the ACOT, Secrets Beyond the Gates official submod. And it is not at all new, it is in fact, one of the oldest modded crises still around.

@Adam-wg2rf

3 ай бұрын

@@samfaber5378 oh thanks, i learnd a new thing .

So the Burning legion on Light mode.

@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

Ha, I guess so

@thorshammer7883

3 ай бұрын

But more overpowered then the Burning Legion. Sargaras probably isn't powerful enough to wipe out something like a Dyson sphere size vessel with a quadrillion planet busting weapon systems on them. He's going to be having to tank a whole bunch of those every attosecond.

@bgcvetan

3 ай бұрын

@@thorshammer7883 Even Sargeras Dimensional Horror Satan mode? [Megamind Question Face]

@thorshammer7883

3 ай бұрын

@@bgcvetan Dimensional horror? Excuse me but I don't understand this term being associated to Sargeras. Do you mean you mean Twisting Nether? Because even then it wasn't much of a power boost to his stats. It's not like it was a astronomical power increase in durability, potency, strength, and destructive capacity to his abilities.

@bgcvetan

3 ай бұрын

@@thorshammer7883 He stabbed a world! Someone with that kind of power would put a hurt on any fleet.

I wonder what approach the Katzenartig Imperium would take if faced with this Tournament, given that Kaiser Kattail presumably knows much more about the greater state of the universe than any other entity? Would he take the same approach as he does with the Grand Intergalactic Federation, and join forces with the Stellarborne in order to deal with the greater threat? (And make his empire of followers grow stronger in the process of doing so?) Sidenote: I believe that the Shadow is the same entity as the End of the Cycle, or as the GIF calls it, FSAE 1000, as the description of the Shadow's objective matches almost perfectly with FSAE 1000's objective.

@ultraflopp2802

3 ай бұрын

…so the Zroni were capable of unleashing the horror of much greater power than the *metaversal gods* who Omega’s are? And that means that Omega is presumably younger than shadow, therefore younger than Zroni, therefore less than 100.000.000 years old? This kind of doesn’t stick around tbh

@samfaber5378

3 ай бұрын

​@@ultraflopp2802 Because it is based on wrong assumptions. Firstly, Gigastructures and ACOT lore are not compatible. In many ways. One of which being infinite energy. Another being multiverses. The whole Gigas cycle thing vs the more conventional ACOT multiverses (although still different from many other media which see multiverses as infinite) They also both have their own explanations for the End of the Cycle and the Aetherophasic Engine. But both do agree that they are shroud entities. And in ACOT lore, these weak shroud entities occupy the lower levels of the Shroud, and are really not that powerful. The top of the Shroud is of course the Shroud Masters, who sleep and are the most powerful metaversal entities. (Just to correct, the Omegans are outerversal, not metaversal, they existed before anything in the Stellaris metaverse happened except perhaps when the Shroud Masters were still feeding on Supplicants to maintain the metaverse from collapsing) In ACOT lore zroni became many of these weaker shroud entities. Thus the name "Zroni-Shrouds" for the middle planes inhabitants. The Omegans and the Shadow are both Outerversal. They exist beyond the metaverse and long before the Stellaris metaverse had anything other than Shroud Masters feeding on supplicants. Shroud didn't even exist back then, the Omegans separated the shroud and physical space. EOTC is just a shroud entity, it is definitely not an outerversal threat (if it was, it has no reason to follow the Gigas lore explanation of handing out aetherophasic engines to trick people, when it can just take control of them all through sheer power). The Shadow and Omegans are outerversal threats.

@valjamin8456

3 ай бұрын

@@samfaber5378 Ok. My main question however was how Kaiser Kattail would act in this situation, given that he predates everything else by an exponentially vaster amount of time, including the Omegans and the Shadow. (Sidenote: Gigastructures lore would consider this cycle having collided with another cycle in order to exist, shattering realspace into several different "universes" in the process rather than a single one. Cycle collisions are how a multiverse can exist within the Gigas cycles thing, and they're also how seemingly physics-breaking rules like infinite energy are possible. To an entity like Kattail, "Outerversal" would simply mean entities that exist beyond the boundaries of any one component universe of the cycle in question, but they wouldn't exist in the true realm outside of everything that he can temporarily access. (The Barathrum.)) Anyways, how do you think Kattail would act in this ACOT "multiverse" situation?

@samfaber5378

3 ай бұрын

@@valjamin8456 Again, to reiterate, Gigas and ACOT lore is explicitly incompatible. You could ask Elowiny himself, he will admit that his whole "cycle collision" explanation falls apart quickly if you try to use it to explain other mods' lore which is as incompatible as ACOT. Furthermore, using such EXPLICITLY prioritises Gigastructures lore over ACOT lore, which I do not accept as a reasonable assumption to make whenever some lore contradicts Gigastructures; when that happens, you acknowledge it is incompatible and move on, rather than step on the other lore to explain it via Gigastructures. If we do, for whatever reason, take your Gigas-prioritised """ACOT""" lore merge, the Kaiser just continues trying to conquer everything, probably delegates research into everything that is different in this cycle to his katzen scientists, eventually meets something that requires him to skip to the next cycle, goes to the next cycle and in the next cycle the effects of the collision are weaker and nothing ever changes for him, since all the collisions and their effects are temporary. All of ACOT is simply temporary illusions, meaningless and hallucinatory, Stellarborne, Omegans, Shadow, etc are weak and powerless fake creatures that might as well be random shroud entities with too much grandiosity. That is what you get when you try to merge lores which are incompatible. One gets sidelined to being temporary nonsense, and the other stays as it is.

@ultraflopp2802

3 ай бұрын

@@samfaber5378 sadly I can’t read the full gigas lore because wiki dot is blocked in my country and I’m too lazy to install VPN

Too bad the game lags out every time before ever seeing this crisis lmao

This entire scenario depends on culture, specifically an American scientist, who is strangely excited to open the gate to who knows there.. because what if its gold, lol. Pretty much everyone else will for one reason or another, avoid opening any gates to unknown destinations. The Europeans might study it for next million years.. the Russians might play around with engineering before getting bored and classifying the whole thing into memory line, the Chinese make a tourist attraction out of it, to make money... and arabs will find some way to worship the damn thing as sign of divine. Only the American will open the damn thing, first thing.

The basic setup of "something past a gateway that the fallen empires worked together to seal" is neat, but the actual content is... underwhelming, lore-wise. All the weird feudal "war for the throne" vibes of the extradimensional invaders, none of the weird translation difficulties or communication barrier to make it actually interesting. They're just Some Guys with glowy eyes that speak to you plainly about an intergalactic order of holy knights. Yawn.

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@TheRedKing

3 ай бұрын

Banana? 🍌

@that_german_guy

3 ай бұрын

@@TheRedKing yes