Mandela's successors have failed his dream, such a shame,

@sandilemasemola6593

4 жыл бұрын

vali68 chrysler the mistake you guys always make is to lump people together

@mich722

4 жыл бұрын

@@sandilemasemola6593 South Africa is falling to pieces. And has been for a long time now. Looks like it could be too far gone now.

@MitchRSA

4 жыл бұрын

@@sandilemasemola6593 the funny part your 'you guys' response does exactly that, lump ppl together lel :)

@mappy20yearsago

4 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@awesomewilsononline225

4 жыл бұрын

Mandela himself failed the black people of SA.

While I do not support the apartheid regime, I hate what the African National Congress has done to South Africa. They were elected in 1994 on a left-wing democratic socialist platform with nationalisation of key industries and wealth distribution on the agenda, to make a fairer, more equal country, but didn't do any of this and adopted right-wing neoliberalism instead; betraying all those who voted for them. Instead, a black elite has been created and has saw a reverse apartheid state created with murders of white farmers on the rise and worsened social inequality. Life expectancy has declined, murders have skyrocketed since 1994, record numbers of whites have left the country, a broken justice system and is now one of the most dangerous places to visit. I support the idea of all races living together in peace, but think the ANC needs to go.

@scrapingyines5428

6 жыл бұрын

Curtis DeLor Your claim to support left-wing values and social progressivism is undermined by your nonsense, racist, and non-empirical "reverse apartheid state" talking point. I agree that about neoliberal ANC policy, particularly with the likes of Mbeki, Ramaphosa, and so on, though not universally so -- hope you're not advocating for the über-neoliberal DA to replace them, however!

@Hannodb1961

6 жыл бұрын

Thank goodness they did not go for full blown left-wing socialism. It's amazing that people could still believe in socialism after the 20th century. Socialism punishes achievement and rewards failure. No wonder it destroys economies. The inequality in South Africa is the result of socialist policies like minimum wage policies. I'm all for subsidized education, though, because we do have a huge legacy to overcome. However, Equality needs to refer to opportunities, not outcomes. The more you focus on outcomes, the more you kill the goose that lay the golden eggs. It is not the place of the state to build houses for people and give them grants - especially not in a state where only a minority pay taxes. People need to be encouraged to better them self through affordable education and find decent jobs so that they can contribute to society, not become dependant on the state and be a drain on the economy.

@curtisdelor5097

6 жыл бұрын

Scraping Yines Absolutely not! I just want genuine party of left-wingers to replace them and implement democratic socialist policies. No apartheid of any form, just blacks and whites living together in harmony, and no neoliberal economic policies.

@Hannodb1961

6 жыл бұрын

The crime of Apartheid *was not* seperation, but the forced nature of it. Likewise, you can't *force* people to integrate either. We're a country of many cultures. The best way to ensure people live in harmony is to just allow them the freedom to associate with whomever they want. The more you force intergration/segregation, the more you promote ethnic tension.

@curtisdelor5097

6 жыл бұрын

Scraping Yines No, I am simply advocating peace between all races and democratic socialism.

2017 - Jacob Zuma calls for confiscation of white land without compensation

@martinwilkinson7939

7 жыл бұрын

Well done Jacob.

@UrielX1212

6 жыл бұрын

Starvation for South Africa! w00t just like Zimbabwe.

@martinwilkinson7939

6 жыл бұрын

Plutonius X why are you people so obsessed with Zimbabwe? Like it's the only country in the world that's having economic problems or something. You're living in the past. Mugabe beat you, move on. I'm sorry to have to inform you but people aren't starving in Zimbabwe, that's just wishful thinking on your part: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZGmj1sdvecqWZ6zD.htmlZimbabwe_2017_bumper_harvest There are still whites in Zimbabwe and they are doing fine, nobody bothers them: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fYaYurCDhpiWnazD.htmlwhite_people_in_Zimbabwe kzread.info/dash/bejne/qoNhpq6lYZTeh9bD.htmlwhites_in_Zimbabwe_shopping_mall

@UrielX1212

6 жыл бұрын

Mugabe didn`t beat me at all and I thankfully never have or never will live in Africa. Plenty of Africans are starving in Zimbabwe and the only preventing even worse starvation is tons of foreign agricultural aid into Africa. Nobody bothers the white in Zimbabwe? Do you honestly believe such Mugabe propaganda? Whites have been beat up and threatened for decades, perhaps that is the reason there is less than 500 white owned farms left in the former breadbasket of Africa.

@bonganigumede486

6 жыл бұрын

Hlala kwabafileyo

And the result is... South Africa became a third world Country.

@tripleq7888

3 жыл бұрын

It was always a third world country...

@tripleq7888

3 жыл бұрын

@@Luca-nu2zg Only if you were part of the white elite which only made up like 8% of the population. If 92% of the population lives like a 3rd World Country, in my eyes it's a 3rd World Country.

@chj5328

Жыл бұрын

The great 'Boers Only Country Club' was destroyed forever. Why cant the Blacks, Coloureds & Indians except their former hellish lives??? What miserable lives we Boers live now that Blacks & Coloureds control the Government & Indians control the Economy 😭😭😭

@SymphonyBrahms

Жыл бұрын

A third world country is where 10% of the people hold oppressive power over 90% of the people. South Africa under the whites always was a third world country.

@MarleyMarley-yz8fw

Жыл бұрын

It's never too late to leave because your daughters and granddaughter are mostly going to marry ANC men, just to be fed and put bread on their tables. You will have beautiful grandchildren

Odds are that the people who voted yes in hindsight would now vote no.

@millennialsecularandauthri3338

Жыл бұрын

Yeah they voted to die

@sve5543

Жыл бұрын

10% of the population would have never held power forever to think so is absolutely delusional

@felixyoghurt3291

Ай бұрын

Seeing what happened I wouldn't have bothered voting. Then & there would have packed my bags and left instead of having to leave decades later anyway. The ship was sinking then, the water was up to the portholes. Now all you can see is the mast flying the new SA flag, port & starboard lights went out a long time ago.

Amazing how dispassionately this was reported. I can just imagine how today's American media would report something like this!

@eisbeinGermany

Жыл бұрын

And the sad part is how many white Afrikaans people fell for the corrupt NP Pik Botha DE Klerk story about the yes vote, today so many white people in South Africa are regretting voting yes, DE Klerk sold us out, I voted NO, I went to the SA Army, waisted so much of time on the South West Africa border, I was one of the white people from South Africa who fell for Ben Voster who proclaimed that Russia Cuba was going to capture the country, the so called red iron curtain,

@donatist59

Жыл бұрын

I dunno... we seem to report mass gun murders dispassionately, like they are traffic jams or something.

I remember as a child how excited we were for the new united rainbow nation, I hope we can move forward together as a country and not let the wrong kind of leaders divide us

@SnuggeryBuggery

Жыл бұрын

Hope is the cruelest of all emotions, for it prolongs suffering.

@jamesg4347

Жыл бұрын

LOL, after 25 years of failure and murder, you still have hope?

@radongc115

Жыл бұрын

Such a stupid, misjudged and misguided excitement.

@elisamcgowan4774

Жыл бұрын

I thought folks gave up on that 'rainbow nation' pipe dream by now.

@kgosietsilesegongoaneliveshow

Жыл бұрын

tell that to the occupants of kleinfontein and Orania

Apartheid South Africa was such a bizarre society. You look at images like these, and it looks like a scene from Europe, or America. But then you remember that these people - the ones who held all the political power at that time - were less than 10% of the total population.

@johnsMITHhhhhh88

3 жыл бұрын

You should make a video on it! In those times whites were closer to 20% of the population, but still it's pretty strange to look at this. Even today some parts of cities remain mostly white, though it has been changing. That society was interesting in other ways too, even among the white minority there was the Afrikaner-English divide, which didn't like each other a lot of the time. The Afrikaners were a slight majority so they pretty much ran things, as you can see on the Dutch-looking flag and Afrikaner-centric anthem of the time. And their international isolation led to other interesting things, like secretly developing nuclear weapons (probably working with Israel), and then getting rid of them because they didn't trust the post-apartheid government with them.

@nickmagee-brown739

3 жыл бұрын

It worked though, south Africa is just bandit country in comparison now... complete mess

@themudpit621

3 жыл бұрын

@@nickmagee-brown739 I can see why one might think that, but if it had really "worked", the standard of living for everyone would have risen such that there wouldn't be rampant poverty and violence in it's wake. That is the objective of western capitalist societies, stability through self interest with everyone having a stake in it, responsible for and owning their own success. There was no shortage of resources there. Apartheid only improved things for some, and not enough for the majority, so no, it didn't "work". It just controlled people by oppressing them, and it's left terrible psychological scars that South Africans are still paying for.

@eugenemolebatsi1871

3 жыл бұрын

@Korucuk kataloški broj according to who!? You!?

@danielcoetzee5793

3 жыл бұрын

@@themudpit621 How exactly do you "oppress" some one (a majority, no less) if you hand them their freedom on a silver platter and embroiden it with gold lacings and fill it up with the fat of the land. The Afrikaner people was also "oppressed" by the mighty British Empire while the world looked on. Along with each and every other indigenous nation in Southern Africa, including the mighty Zulu nation. The Afrikaner nation did not subdue or subject one single tribe or nation in South Africa. All these nations were all subjugated with brute force by the British Empire and forcefully amalgamated into one undesirable "Union" against their will. This "Union" was equally hated by white and blacks alike but became desirable after the British left for convenience sake. It was the Afrikaner who cast off the yoke of the British Empire and declared their freedom. The first thing that the "Apartheid" Government did after they claimed their freedom, was to DECLARE FREEDOM for each and every other indigenous black nation and tribe that was subjugated by the British and began to dismantle the British concoction of the "Union of South Africa", the little "empire within and EMPIRE" which the British created. Not only did the "Apartheid Government" grant these nations freedom, they also spent Trillions of ZAR currency in uplifting these peoples to "lead them to independence" building them infrastructure, industries and giving them back their land and their dignity (which the British took from them). So, how exactly is that "oppressing them"..!!!?? No one in history ever did the same for the Afrikaner people..! No one ever declared freedom for the Afrikaner in the same way which the Afrikaner did for every nation and tribe "oppressed" by the British Empire. And no one ever did what the Afrikaner did to uplift these peoples in "leading them to independence". What did the British do for Swaziland and Lesotho when they handed them their freedom and independence? Did they spent a single Pence to help them stand on their own feet (like the Afrikaner did to the other nations they liberated from the British)???? Before you make sweeping statements, please find out first whether it has any truth in it!

Vote YES for corruption, crime and load shedding etc etc If only they knew what would happen! Zimbabwe 2.O

@moiketsimutsi6119

Жыл бұрын

Shame! Do you miss privileges

voting to relinquish power like Rhodesia before them

its not offen when u can exacly point the turning point here u definitly can

A referendum on ending apartheid was held in South Africa on 17 March 1992. The referendum was limited to white South African voters,[1][2] who were asked whether or not they supported the negotiated reforms begun by State President F. W. de Klerk two years earlier, in which he proposed to end the apartheid system that had been implemented since 1948. The result of the election was a large victory for the "yes" side, which ultimately resulted in apartheid being lifted. Universal suffrage was introduced two years later.

@eisbeinGermany

2 жыл бұрын

thats the day the white people sold themselves out , and now are crying long tears, still cant believe white people voted yes to stop apartheid, black lived better before June 94,thy had work food ,, now thy don't have food or work,

@jakobhopfer1997

2 жыл бұрын

Pietersburg/North Transvaal shown at 7:58 was the only region to vote no.

@eisbeinGermany

2 жыл бұрын

And on that referendum day the white people sold themselves out to communist ANC cadres, thinking that black people will let them still rule the country

@MarkMackenzievortism

Жыл бұрын

@@jakobhopfer1997 Probably due to it being on the Zimbabwe boarder and having some first hand insights in to what the future would hold.

@GoodVideos4

Жыл бұрын

It is, or was, also a very conservative area.

The problem of SA is that they tried to build a totally new country, instead of continuing with the old one but without apartheid.

@jamiearan

11 ай бұрын

Trouble is they continued the same country with new branding.

@devintariel3769

6 ай бұрын

​@@jamiearanyou're both right

When Apartheid was happening the Whites should have partitioned the country into Black and White countries. They did not, they missed the boat.

@thesenuts603

6 жыл бұрын

im sorry if we did, i signed a petition today the bring white south african immigrants into the us, if that makes you feel better.

@SacklunchShacks

6 жыл бұрын

Viper Excellent solution.

@ruvilakazi4237

6 жыл бұрын

Imagine black minorities in Europe partitioning countries, doesn't make sense

@CillaNeill

6 жыл бұрын

Apartheid SA gave the Bantu (Black people ) homelands. In total, ten homelands were created in South Africa. These were the Transkei, Bophuthatswana, Ciskei, Venda, Gazankulu, KaNgwane, KwaNdebele, KwaZulu, Lebowa, and QwaQwa. The homelands were designed for specific ethnic groups.

@guyfromnewark

6 жыл бұрын

Joe Mcnamara We dont need anymore illegals

Back then South Africa was like the USA. Now it’s the Walmart version of a first world country.

@victormejane9842

6 жыл бұрын

yes but only for a certain race

@sarasonsalas3472

5 жыл бұрын

Because you did not go to the Bantustans

@LitoGeorge

5 жыл бұрын

Rnelson....Nope. That's far to generous.

@raczyk

5 жыл бұрын

@desertdetroiter could have been though

@boerepompie8244

4 жыл бұрын

We used to be better than the USA, stronger business economy, stronger currency and stronger military, now we lack all of it because of what the blacks have done

This was the early 90s. Incredible.

I was in Pretoria...an Australian living and working there. The weather in Pretoria was gorgeous and there was such a feeling of hope and brotherhood amongst everyone. I left to come home the following year after 6 years. Now...the country is in ruin. Sad.

@MegaClemie

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah true, the abolishment of cheap labour and human brutality truly messed up the country, what a pity.

@heavyglamrocker1987

3 жыл бұрын

Really it's rude enough being alive when no one wants you.

@GoodVideos4

3 жыл бұрын

I can also remember that great feeling of hope and brotherhood amongst everyone.

@bd3825

3 жыл бұрын

The same way the lives of native Australians were ruined by you whitey? You're a problem everywhere you go.

@elliot04877

3 жыл бұрын

@@bd3825 i see our superiority has caused some controversy

South Africa please please please don't complain about things in South Africa now. You vote for this end of story

@eisbeinGermany

2 жыл бұрын

yes,, white people sold themselves out, by voting yes,

@brian1206

3 ай бұрын

"Hendrik van der mescht" you're one of the freaks who would choose for minority whites to yield indefinite total control over the whole country, your anti-human barbaric beliefs about black people will never receive majority support amongst whites ever again

@anthonymasluk2295

5 күн бұрын

Agreed they only have themselves to Blame they should have voted no but they voted yes and that’s why South Africa is ruined now

From view of an American,it looked to be a beautiful place at this time.

@fairboro153

5 жыл бұрын

Compassion for the weak is a beautiful thing, but if mismanaged, causes even more misery at the end. The biggest problem in the 3rd world has always been poverty and while charities & countries alike have pledged billions to end it, no one as yet has dared pledge billions into birth control. Hence, how do you supposedly end poverty in South Africa when for every 1 person that gets out of it, 5 are born into it??!! Its a no brainer really!

@fairboro153

5 жыл бұрын

@morton christie That's a ridiculous statement. The world has always cared about African resources, more then Africans. In fact breeding populations out of control is preciously the mentality of rich nations needing cheap labour for dangerous jobs. African women are not idiots. There are already plenty of Africans who use contraception, but because its not free (unlike in the West), its not available to everyone.

@fairboro153

5 жыл бұрын

@morton christie You are nothing but a racist fool... Ek sal nie met 'n gevaarlike idioot praat ;)

@gazesalso645

5 жыл бұрын

@@fairboro153 What is a no brainer to you is actually you just demonstrating ignorance on this topic. Have you actually read anything about what drives family size? Do you know tbe centrality of family planning in development? Do you know fertility rates for all races in SA have been declining? Do you know anything about research showing population growth is linked to growth. Do you know about the impact of forced sterilization policies? Do you know theories of economic growth. I'm guessing not. But yet by some miracle you've got the solution that no one else thought of? Somebody give this man a Nobel prize. Sorry if that was a bit harsh. I guess i should have compassion for the weak minded.

@fairboro153

5 жыл бұрын

@@gazesalso645 I stand by my original comment. As 1 person gets out of poverty 5 are born in to it. To end poverty is to end the extra drain of supporting yet more babies by offering free contraception. It doesn't get more simple then that.

People on the global stage are ignorant of how much influence this little country at the edge of the world has over their matters. We know it all too well.

@HateTheIRS

2 жыл бұрын

Like what

@aykuno25romer77

9 ай бұрын

what kind of infleunce ??

@alistairmclean2667

7 ай бұрын

Yeah come on...like what?

@SPEQL8R

Ай бұрын

@@HateTheIRS South Africa is a country of firsts. First heart transplant, CAT scan, radar gun, we produced oil from coal, dolos, more efficient solar power, computerised ticketing, automatic pool cleaner, Pratley putty (which was used on Apollo 11), retinal cryosurgery, Q20, electric street lights, one of a few countries in the world in the 70s who had a sophisticated nuclear weapons and nuclear energy program, countless military weapons like assault rifles, fighter jets, tanks, pistols, missiles, the largest mining hub with South Africa being a major gold, diamond and platinum miner/producer plus major agricultural exports and this was all while SA had sanctions

Its all gone downhill

The comment section is a shitshow.

@danielcoetzee5793

3 жыл бұрын

Once you jumped on board and joined it, yes!

@SimonPageSA

3 жыл бұрын

@@danielcoetzee5793 How original!

rip to the only functional country in Africa

@user-yy1jl2xj3p

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂 South Africa was more richer than powerful then It was back then you know

The day South Africa died

@SymphonyBrahms

Жыл бұрын

The day apartheid and racist evil died.

@zimtswa149

Ай бұрын

Kont

I remember that referendum. I voted in it then. It's funny, at the time I stayed in Yeoville, Johannesburg. The main road was a one-way street, which had recently been changed to have traffic going in the opposite direction. At around the same time as the referendum, was another referendum for if the road must be changed back to how it was. The video also shows Parow, where I stay now. It is about 20 km east of Cape Town.

@HermannTheGreat

5 жыл бұрын

Cool story bro

@GoodVideos4

3 жыл бұрын

One mustn't judge history by today's standards.

@KingAsaBeatz

3 жыл бұрын

This is the civilized comment I was scrolling to see! 👍🏿

@lu881

3 жыл бұрын

Were you hopeful after voting yes?

@GoodVideos4

3 жыл бұрын

@@lu881 What do you think?!

I'm just glad we denuclearized...

@truth-Hurts375

4 жыл бұрын

@Delon Duvenage so....what happened in the meantime....did the time bomb went off???

@Arnz01

3 жыл бұрын

We should've just dropped the bomb on ourselves. It pains me too much to see what South Africa has become.

@ryancruz1876

3 жыл бұрын

@@Arnz01 Are you really that offended by black people?

@hassanduale8028

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryancruz1876 you shouldn’t be surprised most of the whites we have here are disgustingly racist. It’s just sad if only we could unite to make this country better but they would rather complain from their high walls and comfortable salaries

@bokonoo77

2 жыл бұрын

@@hassanduale8028 I mean whites are the only ethnic group that carrying south africa you know that right?

Kyk hoe mooi en skoon was Suid Afrika, voor 1994.

Voting "YES" to be flushed down the toilet....!

@ryancruz1876

3 жыл бұрын

Uh what? 🤨

@SymphonyBrahms

Жыл бұрын

Too bad that the Boers can't terrorize people anymore. Boo hoo hoo.

@danielcoetzee5793

Жыл бұрын

@@SymphonyBrahms Too bad the British Empire cannot terrorize the world anymore...! Stopped DEAD in their tracks by a handful of farmers...! Ha ha ha! Too bad (for you) the the British and the Germans can't run their concentration extermination camps any more..! Boo hoo hoo! (4u) Ha ha ha (4us)

I thought we were voting for a democratic non-racial South Africa. Apparently there was small print that I didn't read... :/

@ryancruz1876

3 жыл бұрын

Uh what? 🤨

@georgerockwell3142

Жыл бұрын

LOL How’s diversity working out for ya in the lovely “Rainbow Nation” these days?

@maarmanrodger

3 ай бұрын

Lekker vir my as 'n kleurling julle konte

I was just 8 years in 1992. I didn't see much what this people are doing.

These newscasters sound very anglicised (British), was that typical of white English speaking South Africans then, is it a posh accent, is it regional, etc? Would love to know from any South Africans or others who have answers.

@swissnor

6 жыл бұрын

They where using received pronunciation like the B.B.C..

@dannyarcher6370

2 жыл бұрын

Lots of us speak like that. Most coastal English speakers have accents that closely approximate the Queen's English, especially in Natal.

@GoodVideos4

Жыл бұрын

There are also various South African accents.

Amazing how South Africa looked like the USA, Australia. I wanted to know if these people still live in the country or have abandoned it. discrimination should really end, but changing the white government was a mistake.

@deathkitten7635

2 жыл бұрын

You’re seeing a very small portion of South Africa the colored majority were incredibly impoverished.

@chj5328

Жыл бұрын

They great 'Boers Only Country Club' was destroyed forever. Why cant the Blacks, Coloureds & Indians except their former hellish lives??? What miserable lives we Boers live now that Blacks & Coloureds control the Government & Indians control the Economy 😭😭😭

@hlonim8667

Жыл бұрын

@@chj5328 *accept. Why should we accept our former hellish lives? Why?

@johnm84

Жыл бұрын

The USA and Australia are being destroyed and are now starting to look like South Africa looks like today.

@gysgijsbers4202

10 ай бұрын

@@chj5328 The great "Boers only Country Club" was based on the "British only Country Club" model, the Boers' (Afrikaners') previous oppressors and the now ruling "ANC only Country Club" is based on the "Boers only Country Club"...Welcome to South Africa, built on the British class system, a new Party in Power, new black elites, new black middle class, same poor class, except some "Boers/Afrikaners/whites" are now also in the poor class. What a great success story of Democracy!!!

Can anybody from SA tell me what they think, why the white SA voted to end apartheid?

@maarmanrodger

3 ай бұрын

International pressure

@thepolarbear8449

3 ай бұрын

@@maarmanrodger thanks

At the time I wondered why there even was that referendum. I thought that it would definitely be a majority yes vote, and De Klerk would just be using it to his advantage. Later I wondered what would have happened if it was a majority no vote. Aar, then again maybe nothing would have become of that, with reforms continuing unhindered.

@GoodVideos4

3 жыл бұрын

Then again, if the reforms had, as a result, not continued, then the country's economy would have still continued to go down due to sanctions. In the late 1980's the outside world was so hostile towards South Africa. Yet, there were countries, like elsewhere in Africa, with far worse atrocities. But, that didn't mean much, or anything, to the outside world. And, the two countries who picked on South Africa the most, were the two countries who had the most to hide, namely the USA and Australia.

@GoodVideos4

3 жыл бұрын

One can what hypocrisy there was, in those sanctions. And, it was whites towards whites. That shows again that one mustn't stereotype, including towards whites.

@GoodVideos4

2 жыл бұрын

I heard that a majority no vote would have led to more sanctions.

@jakobhopfer1997

2 жыл бұрын

There would have been a civil war

@eisbeinGermany

2 жыл бұрын

if it was a no vote country would still of been in white people's hands,not like now with the veil ANC< they are evil, before 94 SA was clean and safe, one could walk late at night alone in street

everyone so full of hope but what in reallity turns out to be a f**king disaster ...

I think we blacks must do the same thing , vote going back to apartheid our country is a mess

So this is when Europeans decided whether to allow Africans some rights in South Africa . Truly historic

@gtneal

6 жыл бұрын

speaks volumes about the national attitude at the time that 2 in every 3 members of the ruling race were willing to give up their lavish social parasitism in favor of a liberal democracy.

@carlosmpsenyorcapitacollon6977

6 жыл бұрын

Idiot. That was when WHITES DECIDED TO ABOLISH APARTHEID.

@mogomotsimasege4378

6 жыл бұрын

I see you resorting to name calling, did the idiot touch the nerve there?

@nathitshabalala5414

6 жыл бұрын

They were scared that CIVIL WAR was coming to their segregated homes and farms. Blacks had realised that killing each other was not the solution, but going for Whites innocent or not was.

@JohnnyCashOriginal

5 жыл бұрын

@@gtneal and look at the fruits of that decision

Nothings last forever....there is always an expiry date fkr everything

And the country elevated itself into first world status ever since.

I'm from New Zealand, and I have held a fascination for South African politics for a long time, mainly because we have long held sporting ties with South Africa, and of course the rugby history, and the tours and the all which that entails. Along with Australia, New Zealand and South Africa are part of the Southern Hemisphere triumvirate. From where I sit, it seems that apartheid era SA was such a bizarre society, and I also get that there is also division between the Afrikaans speaking community and the English speaking communities.

South Africa is more messed up than ever. Although Apartheid was wrong, there should've been a power sharing agreement back then. Full power to the ANC lead to the destruction of such a blessed country. The Western world should take note and learn from this mistake. I guarantee the vast majority of people who voted in 1992 South Africa wished they could've gone back in time to change their vote to NO.

@karabokhwiane7593

3 жыл бұрын

Apartheid was already dead. Lol.The fact that whites were asked to "consent" was nothing but a gesture, superficial formality to purge their white guilt.

@thomasmtontsi4128

2 жыл бұрын

I feel this gesture was horribly misplaced as it gives the privileged through apartheid the perspective and right that the change was forseen by them through the vote... what nonsense

@alexsandrodesouzagoncalves3373

2 жыл бұрын

Economicamente o apartheid não se sustentaria mais. Um arranjo contraproducente e caro pra ser mantido em pleno final de século XX. Diante de um cenário de queda do socialismo no leste europeu, fim da Urss e reunificação alemã, além da ascensão de países asiáticos no mercado internacional.

@poochdagamer9213

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂 go bk to Europe

@e-moshe

2 жыл бұрын

The context though was that the South African State and economy were beginning to take severe strain financially. Large fiscal deficits, shortage of forex, low growth and risks of default in one area. I recall even as a child that certain components, luxuries and media were becoming scarce. In the other respects, demographics and urbanisation were also unrelenting, hence why the Nats gave up on restricting access to white areas a few years prior. Social unrest was also growing and the Cold War threat of Soviet communism was no longer an acceptable excuse to avoid further heavy sanctions from the West. I recall that the IMF did manage to open some ANC eyes to the folly of their desires to both nationalise companies and collectivise savings, forex and State/parastatal funds. Specifically, by showing them how fast the money would run out and the country would be left with a forex reserve crisis, big fiscal deficits, high inflation (money printing) resource shortages and debt defaults locally and internationally, ultimately leading to food and employment crises. Apparently there was an important loan made to bridge the financial gap. One cynical but perhaps realistic comment was that the reality on the ground made the non-violent transfer of power to Black South Africa necessary for White South Africa to avoid being brutalised in a civil war. It simply had to be done and the ‘verligtes’ in the Nats knew it. The outside world would otherwise merely have said White South Africa deserved what it got.

they had to vote cause they didnt have a choice

@dantewalters5209

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. Look at those areas in 1992, you should see them now. Crime riddled rubbish heaps. It is very sad. A failing country we have inherited.

@SymphonyBrahms

Жыл бұрын

@@dantewalters5209 Then move. Iran would like you.

@dantewalters5209

Жыл бұрын

@@SymphonyBrahms What an immature response.

@gags-villsounds5351

Жыл бұрын

They don't like that truth. The apartheid was already inevitable over. Mybe the best thing this referendum possible achieved is allowing for a peaceful transition without a civil war. Otherwise, Apartheid was inevitable done

@MarleyMarley-yz8fw

Жыл бұрын

But it's the truth. You found Africa in a dump and it's occupants loved that dump. Now its occupants have taken over and it's returning to a dump. If you don't like the dump, just leave because things are never gonna change.

If you don't understand white privilege then you've just watched it. Imagine having to have a whole referendum to give human beings basic human rights. White folk are really a special kind of species. Anyone who yearns for the "perfect" days of Apartheid honestly needs to revisit their thinking. SA in 2020 is not perfect, far from the utopia we all dream of, but to yearn for the days of Apartheid is sick.

Biggest mistake they ever made.

@crazychicSHENA

4 жыл бұрын

Best ever

@tvrtvr6984

4 жыл бұрын

@@crazychicSHENA in what way? The country is crumbling, it went from one of the wealthiest countries and a nuclear power with an incredible independent military and engineering/manufacturing industry. Into a failed crime ridden state, with no nukes, glorified militias filled with obese people, no industry of their own and crumbling rusting crucial infrastructure.

@ryancruz1876

3 жыл бұрын

How so?

@ryancruz1876

3 жыл бұрын

@@tvrtvr6984 Are you really that offended by black people? 🤣

@ef888

2 жыл бұрын

@@tvrtvr6984 Wealthy for who? Better for who? Not if you were part of the 90% .

If only they knew : l

@gtproperty4197

6 жыл бұрын

Some of us knew, and we warned and warned.... But we were sweared at in terrible ways.

@BrianKabonyo

5 жыл бұрын

@desertdetroiter this is accurate

@leratomaja9709

4 жыл бұрын

@34L H445 yeah because us black South Africans loved apartheid, we were marching rioting and dying in the streets because we wanted to show out admiration for the glorious government

@truth-Hurts375

4 жыл бұрын

@@gtproperty4197 aaa fur vark steakes....we no by now that nobody voted yes !!! Only 68%

@Que970

4 жыл бұрын

So what if they knew? It's amazing how you think that your useless referendum meant anything. It didn't. It was inevitable that we were to realize freedom in our lifetime whether you like it or not

Farrrrk. We went from one extreme to another extreme. We need a neutral competent and intelligent government to take care of all south africans

@DGAMINGDE

2 жыл бұрын

How about giving people more democratic rights like deciding how the workplace is run so that people become work with democratic processes in their every day life.

@eisbeinGermany

2 жыл бұрын

the country has gone to far back, it will never go back to like during apartheid years,which was best times, no crime, clean streets no potholed streets, which party will fix it,

@san12X

2 жыл бұрын

@@eisbeinGermany i agree that the country was thriving like that of a developed nation. However is it fair that only one race benefited whilst the others suffered? At the end of the day, its pure coincidence as to what race we are born. So would you feel the same way if you were born as a non-White?

@InqvisitorMagnvs

10 ай бұрын

@@san12X How do you know it is pure coincidence? And whether it is 'pure coincidence' or not, what difference does that make when there are immutable racial differences which can never be surmounted?

@san12X

10 ай бұрын

@@InqvisitorMagnvs I don't quite understand what you are trying to saying but nonetheless would you feel the same way if you were born a different race than you currently are?

Make no mistake, apartheid was wrong, and it was absolutely necessary that it end. Nonetheless, it's sad the way post-apartheid South Africa went. It seems that one variety of one-party state was merely swapped with another. Now, the ANC has more or less absolute control for the foreseeable future, and it seems intent on running the country into the ground. What SA really needs is a strong multi-racial, multi-party system, one in which political ideals take precedence over "voting ones race." At the end of the day, SA is just more evidence that identity politics are inherently destructive for all involved.

@UFOhunter4711

5 ай бұрын

Like SG voting culture

Shocked at how white east london used to be

It will always be astonishing how apartheid government single-handedly ruined South Africa. Imagine how far we would have been if we never had apartheid. Hope that one day South Africa becomes the country that most of us want!

@christovanniekerk1097

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine a South Africa with ANC in power since 1948😳

@jjm2682

4 жыл бұрын

Christo Van Niekerk you comparing ANC to the Apartheid regime? Apartheid is one of the worst genocides ever recorded on earth. Committed by the most evil group of people to ever crawl this earth and they still exist...😩

@freedomisslavery6840

3 жыл бұрын

@@jjm2682 'Genocide' - What rubbish. More people are murdered every year in SA than were killed by the NP during the entire regime of Apartheid.

@kaiorafael429

2 жыл бұрын

@@christovanniekerk1097 imagine a South Africa with equality and right of education, health, salary, infrastructure since 1948 for ALL!

@jakobhopfer1997

2 жыл бұрын

@@christovanniekerk1097 The United Party would have won so South Africa would have been more of an Anglo pro-commonwealth country like Australia or NZ.

Voted yes to death

@lourensvdberg6564

4 жыл бұрын

This kids is where the destruction started !!

@rynhardtvanrensburg2187

4 жыл бұрын

Kingm,your so right!Most still don't understand it.They voted for communist revolution!

@peterr7530

4 жыл бұрын

@@rynhardtvanrensburg2187 I voted a big fat NO as I knew what was coming. Wasted my time. Luckily I left when I did.

@richardmadden8742

3 жыл бұрын

@@peterr7530 When did you leave? Guessing you won't ever go back to live there🤔

@peterr7530

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardmadden8742 Left in 2002. Went back once on holiday for about 3 weeks. Still has some beautiful areas but I will never go back. Most of the country is overrun by crime and corruption.

What about Channel 1 News in Afrikaans?

This is really interesting to watch in contrast to the elections this month (May, 2024). I know the two elections are different, (one is a referendum and the other is a presidential election) but I think you can draw parallels due to the two elections being such a turning point for South Africa's uncertain future.

A sad day for South Africa

@donovanwalker3993

6 жыл бұрын

Desperately sad. What on earth possessed a majority of the White voters to vote "YES", and how many of those that did have since lost their jobs, been murdered, or left the country ?

@corbinjustinfry1441

6 жыл бұрын

Sigmund Leid was the best day ever

@a916LEX

5 жыл бұрын

Very sad.

@HattieMcDanielonaMoon

5 жыл бұрын

You are a disgusting human being.

@crazychicSHENA

4 жыл бұрын

Very Happy you bora trash

So weird to see roads and working businesses, planters with plants all in Africa...

@higorvaleriano8119

3 жыл бұрын

Have you ever been in Africa?

@lu881

3 жыл бұрын

Have you ever been in Africa?

@CheshiredGrin

3 жыл бұрын

@@lu881 Why? doesn't look like that now!

@lu881

3 жыл бұрын

@@CheshiredGrin Which part of Africa are you referring to? Or are you talking about all of Africa? Which would tell me that you've never set foot in Africa.

@CheshiredGrin

3 жыл бұрын

@@lu881 post pics of where you mean google maps areas I can see...

Ellen Erasmus- my current lecturer at NMU

Look at what has happened to this beautiful country!It's very sad!!!

@AnthonyD-yy2in

Жыл бұрын

The Africans were there first and the Africans will be there last.

@pineapplepundit

Жыл бұрын

@@AnthonyD-yy2inthey built nothing. It was an arid desert and uninhabited. And where is the diversity you people push on white countries?

Conveniently forgotten by the eff and anc

@gags-villsounds5351

Жыл бұрын

This was to vote if they agreed with what was already happening, "talks on how apartheid was being done with"...Make no mistake, it was not to decide whether apartheid should end or not but if they agreed with the fact that it was inevitable coming to an end

@tichaonamugabe7107

10 ай бұрын

It wasn't your country to give. It wasn't your country to take in the first place.

I hope we didnt just bye some time by voting YES

@dianamincher6479

3 жыл бұрын

Not quite what we expected?

This referendum was badly phrased. We voted for shared government. Not anc dictatorship

Wow. This looks like a place I’d like to live. Wouldn’t even visit what it has become.

@Rapidn911

4 жыл бұрын

dis rayzuz

@VelikiDim

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@eisbeinGermany

2 жыл бұрын

yes stay far away from SA,its a dangerous crime riddled country now, when white people still ruled it was safe and clean,now its only crime, dirty streets

@chj5328

Жыл бұрын

The great 'Boers Only Country Club' was destroyed forever. Why cant the Blacks, Coloureds & Indians except their former hellish lives??? What miserable lives we Boers live now that Blacks & Coloureds control the Government & Indians control the Economy 😭😭😭

@user-hh8yc9eb2k

11 ай бұрын

​@@chj5328coloured have white culture

How lovely, whites could decide whether non whites had the right to vote in the future. We are so grateful to the whites to vote 'yes'.

@pineapplepundit

Жыл бұрын

Well they created that little paradise in South Africa. Now it’s in shambles like the rest of Africa.

@kingalfred3902

11 ай бұрын

i am sure you are also VERY grateful being in this HELLHOLE you live in today.......Enjoy.......but do NOT complain ....this is what you wanted..!!

Biggest mistake ever, coming to America soon they're trying the same tactics here but we are on to them

@ryancruz1876

3 жыл бұрын

So you support crimes against humanity?

@uncletim6

3 жыл бұрын

@@ryancruz1876 no , not sure how you are confused or what your implying but no I'm trying to stop crimes against humanity

@ef888

2 жыл бұрын

@@uncletim6 This was a referendum on whether to support the reforms proposed by President de Klerk, including the end of apartheid. Apartheid was, in no uncertain terms, a crime against humanity and a disgrace.

@ThinkerHaistTV

Жыл бұрын

@@uncletim6 So y'all got some land y'all owe. Don't be afraid of the future you see.

@SymphonyBrahms

Жыл бұрын

Nothing like that is happening in America. Stop listening to Fox News. They are liars.

That’s what happens when you change things apartied was the best thing for South Africa it kept the country in order

What a beautiful country, clean and organized it was. Now it's just a other black hole.

The lesson is: "Never ever vote for a man you don't know again". Those of us who knew the De Klerks knew that you cannot trust them. Two million voters didn't know him and signed their own death certificate on that day.

@mcseedat

5 жыл бұрын

Do u really think that apartheid was sustainable?

@kanetsolengolo9233

4 жыл бұрын

@@forlornvaalan7630 Wow.

@mich722

4 жыл бұрын

@@kanetsolengolo9233 It's true though. The ANC was not a threat. The worry was from the international community, that the whites would no longer tolerate the sanctions.

@sbongadlamini388

3 жыл бұрын

@@forlornvaalan7630 please stop living in a fantasy...no tyrannical government lasts forever...the great empire of Rome fell because of Germanic slaves that rebelled and used guerrilla warfare to defeat the power that thought they were supreme. Apartheid's height was during the 60s and 70s and the campaigns in Angola with the backing of the CIA. Apartheid racist government often labeled ANC members as terrorists because they were afraid of them and they knew that they would have supported of the west because the ANC had 'communist terrorists'. White people should consider themselves lucky that there was never any war in this country, the intimidation used in the early days helped the apartheid regime but it was never going to last.

@PengMIY

3 жыл бұрын

Apartheid was gonna fail regardless of what happened. It is not sustainable and won't survive the judgement of time.

Can anyone furnish me with the results of this poll...

@Roxnolds

6 жыл бұрын

With a voter turnout of 85%, more than two-thirds (68,73%) voted YES - in answer to the question: 'Do you support continuation of the reform process which the State President began on 2 February 1990 and which is aimed at a new Constitution through negotiation?' Some suggest voters were lured into voting 'Yes' by the prospect of South Africa hosting the 1995 Rugby World Cup.

@jennifersihandri4238

6 жыл бұрын

West Men typical south africans. Anything for rugby

@dreamdiction

6 жыл бұрын

+West Men You quote the results but WHO actually counted the votes?

@sonofsoweto

6 жыл бұрын

Dream Diction who voted?

Wow 😮 Am in international student studying in SA . I heard and read about apartheid but i never imagined it was this horrible 😢. The saddest truth is on the comment sections

the SABC was profitable here.

The newscast mentioned the referendum was to decide "the future of South Africa" but it was never explained what the people were voting for. It's explained below though but nowhere in the newscast did they make it clear...

@freezafeesh9251

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm not certain but I suspect this was government controlled media - not exactly in their best interests to inform the public.

@southeparkfreak

2 жыл бұрын

Probably because they didn't need to state the obvious. They've been talking about ending Apartheid for years. Any South African watching the news that day knew what the referendum was about.

@southeparkfreak

2 жыл бұрын

@@freezafeesh9251 The president at that time was in favor of ending Apartheid. SA television had probably been talking about the contents of this historic referendum long before this day came, so I think they didn't need to state the obvious and just covered the election itself.

@derekbradbury9827

Жыл бұрын

We should have been told the truth the national party never gave me a choice if I had known I could have taken my family out of this messed up country and immigrated and would have been settled now I feel we were lied to.

When I think about Suid Afrika my heart is broken. I had so much hope. Now it's damned near gone

@eisbeinGermany

2 жыл бұрын

its not close to,,it is gone,,what is left of the country that worked before evil Mandela took over,he was just so evil as rest,before 94 streets were clean, no potholes, white people could walk alone at night,not like now, even black are scared to walk alone at night now, before 94 black people had work, had enough food to eat,, and now,more are foodless workless, all due to BBBEE

@Karl_I

Жыл бұрын

It's a shame

@jamesbedukodjograham5508

Жыл бұрын

South Africa will find a way to sucess in the near future. However crime has come to overshadow the bright capacities of this amazing nation out there at all. Back then I was 10 years old back in 1992. Now it is 2022 and I am now a 40 year old Medical Lab Personel.

When the balls-up began.

South Africa was actually clean

Wimpie de Klerk called us "verkramp". But who were right and who were wrong? His "verligtes" fled the country. How ignorant can one be?

Can we go back to calling it “Transvaal” ?

@SymphonyBrahms

Жыл бұрын

Call it what you like. It's a free country now.

My parents voted for EFF in this.

Fascinating.

These old farts must be proud

@manoliepapadakis4574

4 жыл бұрын

I THINK YOU MUST BE LOOKING IN THE MIRROR

@SymphonyBrahms

Жыл бұрын

Proud to repeal the evils of apartheid and racism.

Is this south AFRICA or Europe?

@nick-her9275

3 жыл бұрын

If i said that about the black people in Europe I would be screamed at.

@Poshgardenherbs

2 жыл бұрын

@@nick-her9275 black people are the original ppl worldwide. You can find us in all four corners of the Earth. You people are the minorities

@nick-her9275

2 жыл бұрын

@@Poshgardenherbs oh yeah because there’s tones of black people in Asia and South America isn’t there 🤪🤪. And actually the white population conquered every continent on the planet. Black people are only in the Americas because the white population put them there.

@SymphonyBrahms

Жыл бұрын

South Africa.

And now ?

Problem SA has is the damage done by colonists in the past.. bloody animals... genocide of the natives, taking their land and resources,slavery, relocation of family and tribes..people are angry of being treated like that for centuries..just hope the new generation can learn and come together for the future of SA.

South Africa is a perfect reason why people of very different cultures and races shouldn't mix.

@Elijah-zy6ce

5 жыл бұрын

How Dare You How Dare You and other countries in the world are perfect examples of why they should

@fightback3196

3 жыл бұрын

Then why are they in africa? Go back to europe and practice what you preech

@Bantu-860

3 жыл бұрын

@@Luca-nu2zg The stranger has no strength in a strange land. Africans are following the rules of European countries. Do the same, if not take a hike the mountains are still there.

@1999liner

3 жыл бұрын

@@Luca-nu2zg only if europeans didn't colonize all of africa

@bonniec.ddisashi6686

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

Voted away their children's future. One man sold his own pll to the devil. Another lied about his real intention. Sheep's to it's own slaughter

@tyrone9953

4 жыл бұрын

I think youre a bit confused

@56364

4 жыл бұрын

@@tyrone9953 in what way ?

@Lagiacrus1996

4 жыл бұрын

@@56364 an insanely racist way

@56364

4 жыл бұрын

@@Lagiacrus1996 explain ?

One black guy in the comments say that they signed there death warrants, hence the reason there’s farm murders.

@SymphonyBrahms

Жыл бұрын

Farm murders? In your imagination?

LOL are you sure this is SOUTH AFRICA?

@user-hg1gk2fq7h

4 жыл бұрын

YES!🤣

@Arnz01

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! The better South Africa - there was such a beautiful time.

@sara-jc2eh

3 жыл бұрын

@@Arnz01 i doubt that

@khulekanikunene1862

3 жыл бұрын

@@Arnz01 If so where was the majority of South Africans?

@pierrefourie1503

3 жыл бұрын

Kunene, Have a look bra. That is how normal people who can behave them selfs come together, and look how clean are the surroundings !!! Incredible hey. !!!

En kyk waar sit ons nou. .

Wat op aarde het ons besiel!

@davidverster9523

4 жыл бұрын

Should have voted NO....and contained the bantu in his own area..by force if necessary....

@dawoodwilliams3652

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidverster9523 the world forced you, Aparthied wasn't sustainable, it's like you all forget that by the late 80's the Apartheid government was all but done, sanctions were getting tighter, the country was in a State of Emergency, Social unrest was growing and resistance forces were becoming full blown militaries, the country was of the verge of a civil war, the countries economy tanked. The problems we face now happened before, South Africa is one country that can't seem to ever have everlasting peace, it's a country the repeats the same mistakes over and over again.

@Que970

4 жыл бұрын

Thetha into evalalayo wena kakandini

@mechailreydon3784

4 жыл бұрын

David Verster do you believe in the third riech?

@hannesRSA

4 жыл бұрын

I hope you mean to start apartheid, because human rights were inevitable.. delaying it is what our generations are paying the price for.

The day a strong and disciplined country was betrayed...and now we have to sit with clowns destroying it!!!😢

I watched this video two years ago

A completely different South Africa. Miss it a lot.

@ryancruz1876

3 жыл бұрын

You miss institutional racism?

@southeparkfreak

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryancruz1876 Why would he miss institutional racism when SA still has that towards whites?

@SymphonyBrahms

Жыл бұрын

And the southern U.S. once had slavery. I imagine that you would have liked that for South Africa.

@MarleyMarley-yz8fw

Жыл бұрын

Not too late to leave. Not sure if you will survive the developments that are to come. The wealth will be in the hands of a few Blacks, just like in Apartheid. Imagine your granddaughters being married to ANC men just to put food on the table

@felixyoghurt3291

Ай бұрын

@@ryancruz1876 Cant you read ? He never said that, you inferred that from your own racist lenses.

On that very day South Africa died.

@ryancruz1876

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a bold faced lie.

@SymphonyBrahms

Жыл бұрын

On that very day the evil of apartheid died. An evil South Africa died. And a better South Africa emerged.

@MarleyMarley-yz8fw

Жыл бұрын

I'm loving the reverse poverty. I'm now the new Black Johan Rupert . Can wait to marry off your daughter and granddaughters and we give you colored grand kids. Dude, times have changed. It's better you go to a more white country where your opinion and vote counts

And now America. On this day in history it is your turn. What you going to do. And you Britain, Brixit or UK - WETF you call yourself these days. We have never forgotten you. Your time will come soon enough.

@SymphonyBrahms

Жыл бұрын

Nothing like that is going to happen. Go to your bunker, Adolph.

Where's Ian?!!!😮

Turkies voting for Thanksgiving 🤣

@tichaonamugabe7107

10 ай бұрын

europeans having a referendum to decide whether or not they should allow Africans to vote in Africa? What kind of nonesense is that? Would europeans stand for that? Then why should we? If you want to practice racism then do it in europe, not Africa.

The end of these people's country. :(

ABOLISH THE CONSTITUTION.

If we knew then what we know now. That was the end of civilization in Africa.

A year ago i lived in arcadia,let me tell you its gone downhill really really fast in just over 20 years.

Why haven’t you people been honest with us about this referendum??? 1992.

South Africa died post 1992

This is South Africa?