Eventually we're gonna have a bike with enought travel to roll over the entire whistler mountain range without noticing

@scrmblr9553

Жыл бұрын

10000000 inch wheels 🤣

@Hamish-in1hw

16 күн бұрын

no travel seems to get smaller as we get newer suspension

I love how the marzocchi fanbois eyes light up when they see the pre 08 forks 😍😂

@ebeaudry929

Жыл бұрын

Pre-Marz going to shit ;-)

@burningatthetrailhead

Жыл бұрын

@@ebeaudry929 they stood the test of time, and alot are still in commission. On retro free ride builds anyway.

@KarstRats

10 ай бұрын

@@ebeaudry929tell that to jordan and mines super ts lol. Idk what else to say 😅 in 15 years people will be having to rebuild all these new ones. So i dont see an issue in having to rebuild most of the pre 2008s they have been ridden for a long time. And the fact that they are still rebuildable and not shot stands the test of time.

Wilson and Boostmonster are becoming the most iconic bikes in mtb youtube community 👌👍

@JordanBoostmaster

Жыл бұрын

yes!!

I have no "actual" knowledge of how fork compression circuits work, but my armchair assumption is that the HSC journals/holes could be enlarged to allow more flow at max HSC. In my mind you are feeling the system suddenly overwhelmed on those high speed square-hits and literally hydro-locking the suspension for a split second. Absolutely amazing project and entertaining video though as always. Thanks Jordan!

Man I can really see when you get to faster sections how quickly the momentum increases. I bet once you get it dialed in you’ll be incredibly fast all around

100% recommend cushcore in addition to gravity casings. I was able to blast through downieville lower at only 20psi with not damage to the rims despite the roots and rocks.

@JordanBoostmaster

Жыл бұрын

ya I agree, I have super gravity casings on the magic mary's and I'm trying cushcore in the front and tannus armour in the rear now!

@louiefriesen

Жыл бұрын

@@JordanBoostmaster If you want to be able to still use a tube in the rear you can look at Tannus Armour inserts

I just found this channel and the fact your trying to build the ultimate DH/free ride bike got me to sub because I've been wanting to see someone do this for a long time.

bike is now a video cam stabilizer ! epic

"...but I felt like going for one last lap..." [OMINOUS FORESHADOWING MUSIC]

YES

I've scoured KZread and pinkbike for quality super monster ride footage for over a decade. Finally you are showcasing exactly what I've been seeking!

@JordanBoostmaster

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad I can be of service!

I love watching the boostmonsters journey as the craziest MTB ever made. I'm not sure how I'd react to seeing something like that at the park.

the boostermonsters real debut. this sure has been long awaited

Maybe a tyre insert for the rear tyre will compensate for the heavy weight of the bicycle, and have an even more plush ride.Your machine looks so comfy!

I had the 8" version of these, they were amazing back in the day, heavy for sure but they never felt flustered.

The delivery on "...so that pisses me off" @23:18 is priceless, haha.

dang this was awesome

I love this project

Have been waiting for this since a long time! Love the video man keep on the good work!

Looks like your fork is spiking. To be honest mate I think you’d be more controlled on a newer fork with modern damping. But as long as you’re having fun that’s the main thing 👌🏻

@felixfam0481

Жыл бұрын

Yeah he would be better on a fox 40 or boxxer, but that's not really the point. He's trying to get this old unique fork to perform similar to a modern fork if not better by just having more travel, and its somehow actually working better than them in some places lmao

If you can see where the coil is rubbing the shock, a simple solution might be to simply rotate the coil so the rub spot sits in the gap between coils if it’s on a corner. Long springs may also compress in an arc and need to be rotated to compensate if the rub is in the middle of the shock body.

That bike eats those trails like it should, it is from the era that made whistler the bike park known today. Also it crossed my mind about maybe there is to much "sidesways" pressure and the shock is actually flexing a bit, tighten the spring more and use the adjustments . good luck Awesome video! cant wait for the sun peaks one!

Love seeing the progression of the BoostMonster. Such a sweet bike. Cheers, mate!

Awesome run, JB. Appreciate the commitment to get the 'Monster dialed in just right. In for the compilation build vid, once you have everything complete. Loving jow the Boost Monster makes the jumps/drops so smooth. Handles like a champ, congrats on the continued progression with it.

AWESOME jump bike 🤣🤞👍❤🇬🇧🇺🇸

ohh yeah definitely more Whistler content pleeeeease!! sick video bro

The supermonster stanshions have an extra hole drilled in them compared to normal monsters. They were developed mostly for big drops not techy downhill trails. I understand Egor and a few others may disagree with that statement and tell you different but its true. The only other 300mm fork produced was the risse bigfoot and that was also developed for the same thing. You will always have issues trying to run a super monster if you’re going to use them for something else 😂

@JordanBoostmaster

Жыл бұрын

fair enough! thats good to know, so your saying that with that extra hole drilled in, it will cause less damping then? An extra hole in both stanchions?

@drumandbassking12345

Жыл бұрын

@@JordanBoostmaster probably something to do with the different cartridges also, with the sumos they had different internals and stanchions more specific to extreme freeriding. I’ve not got a set myself but i’ve done a whole lot of research into converting normal monsters and thats what i’ve found out so far. Egor has been a good help in explaining a lot of this to me also

@JordanBoostmaster

Жыл бұрын

@@drumandbassking12345 I see interesting, I wonder if I could just cover a hole if I wanted? I'm still trying to learn how this suspension all works!

@fixienick

Жыл бұрын

@@JordanBoostmaster you would have better luck having new cartridge tubes made (or possibly use normal Monster tubes?) and if you needed to add a smaller hole later

So sick bikes mental I’m in whistler for first time as I’m from England I go home Wednesday been awesome here last day of riding is Monday for me be sweet to bump into you on trails 🇨🇦😁

YES Ive been waiting for this video...

I love the entire process of making this bike better and better

I think you have to take the Boostmonster to the Kamloops Bike Ranch🤔

That was sick, I wish I was there shredding with you boys! You animals! YEEWWW!!!! :D \m/

@JordanBoostmaster

Жыл бұрын

YEEWWWWWW!!!!

@RobbisTV

Жыл бұрын

@@JordanBoostmaster YEAH BUDDY! 👊😃🤘

That's the Kind of "Soft" entertainment i like

@RandomDudeOnYoutube

Жыл бұрын

I See whatcha did there 😏

@viethknorr5389

Жыл бұрын

@@RandomDudeOnKZread I dunno it just "Sprung" into my mind

@falk.r.h8963

Жыл бұрын

@@viethknorr5389 i am SHOCKed when hearing you use those words

@viethknorr5389

Жыл бұрын

@@falk.r.h8963 ok than i DAMPER my behavior

@falk.r.h8963

Жыл бұрын

@@viethknorr5389 english isnt my native lanuage so i cant really FRAME my sentences good enough to compete with you as you are clearly a SAGe in the art of using damping language XD

I was waiting for this video 🤘🤘

not gonna lie I absolutely love the ! exclamation marks on the rides it makes it like a video game

boost gang for life

Yaaaay been eating for this so long

Good job Curtis!! First time on that drop was epic🤙🏻

Edit: Hey Jordan i think it would be cool if you found someone that makes custom frames that could make one for this fork and shock (so that it has "normal" geometry), they can be really expensive but if you give them a shout out or something i thing its doable

@orestisvas7277

Жыл бұрын

Sorry that i reposted the comment but my brain switched off while making the original and it was a bit nonsense

@KingPlayz_MC

Жыл бұрын

Generally people don’t accept shout outs, especially when it’s something expensive

@orestisvas7277

Жыл бұрын

@@KingPlayz_MC maybe the can lower the price or something like that or if they also make yourube videos as full time job and do the collaboration it could be for free. I have no idea how this could work, i just think its interesting and should be a way to do it somewhat cheap

@redtobertshateshandles

Жыл бұрын

Needs a 21" motorcycle front wheel. Bicycle wheels are too skinny.

@orestisvas7277

Жыл бұрын

@@redtobertshateshandles hmmmmm

Should do "Whistler on a hardtail!" after this, LOL

@kenitsanoutragecandia3939

Жыл бұрын

With rigid fork, like an old Trek 850 crome molly frame and chrome molly fork. Old school.

Isn’t that like 10 inches?!?!?!? Siiick, keep it up bro

@JordanBoostmaster

Жыл бұрын

12 inches!

@Duo_edit

Жыл бұрын

Wwoooowwwww a whole foot?!? Time for a 50 foot drop 😎

Get tannus armour insert. They have one witch you must use it with a tube. Its a great piece of kit, highly recommended! :D

@JordanBoostmaster

Жыл бұрын

I put that in recently now!

@szb0_tms42

Жыл бұрын

@@JordanBoostmaster good choice bro, they are awesome. I had about 5 punctures in the last 2 years with them, mostly from hitting roks at Mach 7 speed 🤣 🤟

I remember back in the day i had a Junior-T and to really make it feel plush on those small bump we used lighter weight oil, but cant remember if it was 5W or 10W from a MX forks oil it worked great and made a huge difference in the fork and how it felt

@redtobertshateshandles

Жыл бұрын

You have to experiment. Ride it and see. It's not hard and doesn't need to take a long time. When it's great, you know you're there.

Hey Jordan, did you ever think you'd be getting stopped for you autograph? Awesome video!

I get the same noise from my EXT shock as well......just thought it was normal over the coul rubbing on the shock, I'll look into that

This has been very interesting. You would think with longer forks you would have more difficulty with handling. But you made it look good. Thanks for sharing this with us.

You know he’s looking epic and awesome Jordan, also using my imagination I’d save OH WOW HE RIDES GREAT. For the future I might come up to Whistler to get experience and spend all day.

Awesome riding dude 🤩🤘🔥

Imagine putting a mid drive ebike kit on this puppy, you could hit 40 mph on the level and fly up ramps,batteries in a backpack 👍🤘

What a weapon that bike is man can't wait till you get it setup right

great video, sick riding, sendy vibes!

Your best bet for the rear suspension is to contact Craig at Avalanche... He might be a bit quirky, but as long as you are honest about your skill level with him, he will build a shock, or modify a shock, that's perfectly matched to your imes leverage curve, riding style, and rider weight. I've got a bomber cr coming from him this week, long shocking my knolly delirium. I'd be willing to bet that having an Avy modded shock in the rear would solve all your rear suspension issues

@JordanBoostmaster

Жыл бұрын

thanks I think I will contact them!

@MrOEFVeteran

Жыл бұрын

@@JordanBoostmaster I also had a Boxxer ride (basically a 2005 boxxer team with u turn travel adjustment) rebuilt by Risse Suspension. I'd check them out to see if they can offer any insight on the super monster... Or maybe even another option for the rear shock.

So sick!!!!

Honestly with a rear tube I'd say 30psi is bar minimum... Prolly run at least 35psi with your setup and how you ride. That said, tubeless with inserts would be my preference 🙃

@JordanBoostmaster

Жыл бұрын

ya I have to agree, I'm still afraid of tubeless in the rear, but I at least have a foam insert with tube now in the rear

I live in Whistler the reason Creekside gondola is closed is because there rebuilding it.

Great bike💯

gotta say fair play, everyone out there saying they need more travel but you are riding the hell out of that big heavy thing!

What a crazy day!

💥💥💥 sick!!!

hey mate I'm no expert but seeing as the fork is a coil the spiking has to be damper related. oil not passing through valves fast enough. think experimenting with lighter weight oil would be at very least an interesting experiment

@JordanBoostmaster

Жыл бұрын

yes I agree, I had 10 wt oil and I am now trying 7.5

Wesley - I hope the cows be putting out some milk! Miss ya in the vids bro!

I’ve had great success with my Rimpact inserts. I run them on my Giant Reign on 2.6” wide Schwalbe tires, over Stan’s Mk3 (35mm inner width) rims. Great damping properties, too, and easier to install over Cushcore

E… (this is sick saw it on insta when you were rebuilding the fork)

Your airtime was so long on some of the jumps you needed to book annual leave for it!

I love my marz forks, still using two from 2011. I built a bike like this in 2010 and its still an amazing ride and I feel like I can ride anything. 2009 rogue, fox 40, dhx coil. 2.5" tires at 27psi. it is so smooth and absorbs anything it hits. no bottoming. the dual compression circuits in both front and rear makes the suspension killer

I love the fistbump sounds :D

Sounds like your fork is compression spiking, 10wt oil is thicker than marzocchi's 7.5 isn't it? Maybe oil level is too high?

@JordanBoostmaster

Жыл бұрын

yes that is true, that is actually what I was starting to realize lately, I am now going to try out the 7.5 wt oil

It’s still a human powered moto bike! Cool man I love this!

This day must have been a long time ago was in whis recently and didn't see this much snow when was this filmed?

@JordanBoostmaster

Жыл бұрын

it was mid july

SICKKKKNESSSSS!!!!!!!!

You will get it dialled in eventually, then it will be the dream

@JordanBoostmaster

Жыл бұрын

yeessss

Sick dude

Something i would like to add, love the norco frame by the way, had one of those years ago but not as cool as yours. However propain produced a frame in 2011 called the rage. 10inch travel factory. I still have mine, such a cool old bike.

You have to go to big White on that thing before it closes

Jordan, I use slime tube sealant in my tubes. Haven’t had a flat in a long time now. Even rim pinchers don’t exist anymore. Best $8 you’ll ever spend.

You could try a Procore in the rear. I'm running it in a 26" rim that's not tubeless ready with a wire bead magic mary and the inner tube helps seal it up so good I lose zero pressure over weeks of storage. I've done a few runs in rocky places with 8 psi without getting a flat. It's a double edged sword because it sucks when you do get a flat but it reduces the chance greatly.

Wouldn't surprise me if dh bikes end up with 300mm travel again, I mean it works great with motorcycles

@redtobertshateshandles

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Old dirt bike rider here. I remember bikes hitting 12 inches. It was like magic.

bad azz man! 😎

Hi Jordan really nice video, and i love the bike, i think, and a lot more in the audience could agree with me is you should paint the bike frame a nice modern color.

Wow that’s some insane trail riding I wish I could still ride but my bike broke 😂

bouncy bike bounces bouncly

You should look into trying to make your own frame... like Pinkbike did with the grim donut. Or maybe you can build it yourself??

i would run my non tubeless tires without tubes and just put stans in there. if you have a good dh casing tire (i used maxxis dhf front and rear) , and a good tape around the rim it will easily hold the 20-40ish psi most people ride at. might be worth a try to avoid hiking out again.

What’s next 300mm disk brakes?

lol I saw you at whistler

Hey Jordan, where do you mount you GoPro? The footage is amazing!

Dirt Merchant is so much fun!!!

entertaining to watch haha. how many tires you go through in a season?

It might be the rebound? The shock might be too compressed after those smaller, yet harsh, consistent hits, and too slow to return to droop so you're bottoming out.

@tommypenny6339

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same, slow down the compression and speed up the rebound just a bit for all the rapid hit's so it's not packing down.

@JordanBoostmaster

Жыл бұрын

I've never bottomed it out yet though, the compression is wide open too, the fork doesn't give me the chance to pack up because the rebound is too fast. But one thing I am trying now is lighter weight oil!

I am wondering what is it like if put this super monster on a modern 29er dh bike?

i think it would be awesome if you had a gopro pointed directly at the fork while you ride it

ive always wanted a DH bike. this is such a nice bike i wish I had it

@Jordan Boostmaster if you still wanna run tubes in the rear they is this product called tannus armour

I remember dirt merchant very well

I wonder if the harshness on the tech comes from the long stanchions twisting and then binding. Not sure if that is faxable because it just has to do with how stiff the stanchions are and how long they are (leverage and all that) but that may be why they seem to get harsh on the chunky stuff.

@orangekilla3374

Жыл бұрын

Could also just be restrictive shim stacks to soak up big jumps he could re shim yo allow for more oil. Flow for the first 4-6 in of travel

Hahahahah 11:57 was my mates and I, been waiting to see that in a video😂

@JordanBoostmaster

Жыл бұрын

lol

@joewilson2175

Жыл бұрын

@@JordanBoostmaster can you legally adopt me J J boostdog

wonder if the harshness is from the fork having too much oil? like it's soft off the top and then ramping up too much at the end causing not enough support in the beginning then all of a sudden slamming into a wall at harsh compressions?

@JordanBoostmaster

Жыл бұрын

right now I think it's more to do with the 10 wt oil, it's made for 7.5 wt actually!

Jordan: rides over root The root: im gonna be moist today all tires shall be repelled Also Jordan: HAHA DAS COOL

Hey Jordan. I think the fork and front tire are both setup way too soft. I run 35 to 40 psi front...also when a fork is too soft, it dives through the travel too easily which changes the geometry radically. That steepens the headtube angle and pitches your weight forward leading to moments like the one one whistler downhill. Idk but just something to think about

It’s sooo big. “That’s what she said” sorry man. I couldn’t pass the opportunity 😫😂