The whistleblower must publicly declare that he is not suicidal

@badgermoon9229

2 ай бұрын

Why? That didn't make any difference for the last whistleblower.

@midnitelux

2 ай бұрын

@@badgermoon9229Technically he never publicly announced it.

@ftwitsucks

2 ай бұрын

@@midnitelux Wouldn't make a difference. What would you or I do about it? What would any government entity do about it? Nothing, as with all things.

@ZenZill

2 ай бұрын

Not like it matters at all.

@KS0102

2 ай бұрын

Funny but scary...

This whistleblowers "suicide" will be so sad

@CashRules660

2 ай бұрын

​@@AverageFourtyBecause art imitates life, not the other way around. Movie makers get their ideas from real life scenarios.

@DedesFewscres

2 ай бұрын

it wouldnt be on the news for more than a minute. 🎉🎉🎉 no one cares about the "whistleblower's suicide". we should but we dont

@soccerguy2433

2 ай бұрын

It was self inflicted. Why would boing do it AFTER he's already whistle blown?

@jantjarks7946

2 ай бұрын

​@@soccerguy2433 Only after his first cross interrogation by Boeing lawyers they understood that John Barnett could even remember details reliably. The second interrogation by John Barnett's own lawyers would have been far worse for Boeing. One of Boeing's lawyers was reportedly very upset about how it could be that he remembers even details after many years without access to any internal documentation. John Barnett answered that he had memorized them as inspection was his main duty anyways. Probably John Barnett had photographic memory? As such, no. It was perfectly the time when Boeing had to realize how big a threat John Barnett really was. The whole incident has "professional murder" all written over it. But I doubt that we will ever see any evidence. It's the country of magic bullets after all.

@mohammed.mustabi5817

2 ай бұрын

they cant off us, if all of us speak out >

My dad worked on the development of the 787 and he told me NEVER EVER fly on that plane. He was an auditor for Boeing for years and he oversaw quality controls throughout various production channels. We joke in our family that Boeing quality went downhill after he retired. It's really a shame, because Boeing was an amazing company years ago. But really, it's not Boeing anymore. It was essentially acquired in a hostile takeover by McDonnell Douglas and it's been downhill ever since.

@chrisx5127

2 ай бұрын

Boeing makes Tofu plane.

@mattmalonson9420

2 ай бұрын

Now you and your dad need to sleep woth one eye open lol

@lorina13d79

2 ай бұрын

Dreamliner has been in the skies since 2011 so when we should expect it to break?😂

@rexx9496

2 ай бұрын

Given that the plane has been flying for nearly 15 years without a single loss of life, why should we believe you?

@lorina13d79

Ай бұрын

@@GNMi79well that can happen to any other plane!

It would seem relevent to mention that John Barnett was supposed to testify against Boeing the DAY he was found shot, and that his death prevented further testimony.

@AutoVr8000

2 ай бұрын

I think there has been a foul play at Boeing.

@Larryjo44

2 ай бұрын

​@@AutoVr8000ya think?

@joshuakuehn

2 ай бұрын

Don't forget he was asked my boring to stay one additional day for extra testimony and was found the morning of his additional day

@michaeledwards2251

Ай бұрын

Additionally 1. Boeing lawyers had finished their questioning and could only delay him by demanding his testimony was complete before further testimony was taken. 2. He would have only faced questions from his own lawyer. (His own lawyer remarked he was a dynamite witness, he remembered documents from 10 years ago and appeared delighted to be able to tell his side of the story at last. When questioned by the Boeing lawyers how he remembered, he replied "I lived them".) (He was applying for compensation for lack of career advancement, and bullying. His lawyer said the claim will still go ahead.) 3. He had rung his mother saying he would be home the weekend 4. He had packed his bags 5. He was found in the trunk of his Orange Dodge Ram. 6. No mention was made of whether he had paid the motel. (An odd omission) 7. Convenient : no search warrant for the motel was needed : the police had simply to collect his Dodge Ram, and packed bags, allowing the motel to give his room to the next customer.

@dragonsdynamite6403

Ай бұрын

I believe he told his brother(?) he’s not suicidal.

Protect the whistleblower!!

@daveleephoto

2 ай бұрын

By building a better airplane

@AutoVr8000

2 ай бұрын

I think there has been a foul play at Boeing.

@namhead140

Ай бұрын

Update. They didn’t.

@robertsudano4304

Ай бұрын

2 of them are dead now

@soramame7528

Ай бұрын

@@robertsudano4304 Just one.

Boeing whistle blowers don’t tend to live very long…..fact.

@kamalabrahman6925

2 ай бұрын

Their limit is the day to testify in court....

@MrShanester117

2 ай бұрын

Name 3

@vertexvortex5

2 ай бұрын

@@MrShanester117Boeing,Boeing,Boeing

@clickbaitpolice1750

2 ай бұрын

I mean he lived up to 62… that’s kinda long.

@Noe11e

2 ай бұрын

@@clickbaitpolice1750...as in, they don't live long after becoming a whistleblower

They forgot to mentioned the previous whistleblower said that if anything happens, it’s not suicide..

@AutoVr8000

2 ай бұрын

I think there has been a foul play at Boeing.

@nalsra0

Ай бұрын

@@AutoVr8000think???

Never let an accountant run an engineering company...

@AutoVr8000

2 ай бұрын

I think there has been a foul play at Boeing.

@Crow-jg4sj

Ай бұрын

🎯

@samuelfoisy

Ай бұрын

Never let an accountant run any company TBH. When profits take precedent over quality of anything companies and their clients suffer.

@michaeledwards2251

Ай бұрын

When the new management took over after the MC Donald Douglas takeover, they sacked 5000 engineers, and moved the HQ from Seattle, the site of manufacture, to Chicago.

@jaymoar3561

29 күн бұрын

Stop copying comments for likes that don’t mean nothing.

Good God. What is Boeing doing. From such a great company to a disaster company. Shame on them.

@johnlilly8519

2 ай бұрын

It's been all downhill since they merged with McDonnall-Douglas.

@mrlt1151

2 ай бұрын

I don’t know if you’ve ever worked in aerospace, but it’s common to have people who don’t think something is being done correctly. Often people who just don’t know what they’re talking about. There’s really no way to have an opinion about this claim from this report.

@himanshuchuri894

2 ай бұрын

when a company’s priority is just Profit

@whoishim2998

2 ай бұрын

Cutting corners to increase profits smh playing with peoples lives

@whoishim2998

2 ай бұрын

@@mrlt1151What’s your point lol

Boeing says the plane is OK. That's good enough for. . .NOBODY!

@TheRocco96

2 ай бұрын

Boeing planes are safe and effective.

@chrisrock3108

2 ай бұрын

@@TheRocco96 Its april 10th not april 1st.

@TheRocco96

2 ай бұрын

@@chrisrock3108 The joke went over your head.

@TheOzthewiz

2 ай бұрын

If it's BOEING, I AIN'T going! FACTS!

@chrisrock3108

2 ай бұрын

@@TheRocco96 my bad 🤣

I like how companies are "confident" until it all goes wrong.

@jeffmunro7638

2 ай бұрын

Exactly

@OfficialSheffieldCouncil

2 ай бұрын

What a stupid comment. Of course companies are confident until it goes wrong. What does this comment even mean?

@xpeterson

2 ай бұрын

@@OfficialSheffieldCouncilshould be pretty obvious, it means they’re putting on a face trying to hide their shoddy workmanship… It works great until the inevitable disaster happens and their farce comes apart, but then we’re suppose to take them at their word the next time they are “confident” a problem has been properly addressed

@jamiebarker5720

2 ай бұрын

@@OfficialSheffieldCouncil That their word isn't to be relied on, obviously.

@OfficialSheffieldCouncil

2 ай бұрын

@@jamiebarker5720 it’s a null point. So whose word do you rely on exactly?

Boeing is starting to learn the lesson that GM learned in the 80s and 90s: Accountants belong in a cube farm, not in the board room. Especially of an engineering company. How many more companies are going to have to sacrifice your life in the name of higher profits before they learn?

@AutoVr8000

2 ай бұрын

I think there has been a foul play at Boeing.

@psk5746

2 ай бұрын

I'd never intentionally purchase a GM car. Just appliances designed by non enthusiasts

@jasono2139

2 ай бұрын

Don't worry... that board room is very "diversity"... and "diversity is our strength"... so it's all good everyone!

@iluvcamaros1912

2 ай бұрын

@@psk5746GM cars are generally well designed they get sabotaged by the bean counters. The company of the Corvette, Camaro, and RWD Cadillacs hardly lacks for enthusiasts. That’s a bizarre thing to say.

@zachy3375

2 ай бұрын

Accountants absolutely need to be in the board room. They just need to be accountants that understand that if planes continue to fall apart in the sky, the company won’t last in the long-run.

Boeing doesn’t like when you speak out. I’m worried for this guy

@whywar6358

2 ай бұрын

He is dead

@elizabethheyenga9277

2 ай бұрын

He obviously knows he is in danger but cares about humanity enough to speak up.

@NorthernChev

2 ай бұрын

...you guys realize you're replying to a bot, right?

@enarush1

2 ай бұрын

@@NorthernChevwell that bot is making a lot of sense

@USA-zr9zy

2 ай бұрын

@@whywar6358 it’s possible

I can't believe the whistleblower threw himself off a cliff into shark infested water 3 days later

@AlRaisi777

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@purplestrawberrysunset

2 ай бұрын

Luckily, sharks don't eat humans so he survived.

@Intrepid_Insomniac

2 ай бұрын

Sharks with frickin laser beams on their heads!

@us3rG

2 ай бұрын

​@@purplestrawberrysunsetjump among them and show us a video evidence

@jimjason5146

Ай бұрын

​@@purplestrawberrysunsetBig sharks usually don't eat humans. Small ones will feast on you.

Fun fact: On most online travel sites you can opt-out of flying on a Boeing airplane if you feel unsafe...

@675daytonarider

2 ай бұрын

Which ones?

@AutoVr8000

2 ай бұрын

I think there has been a foul play at Boeing.

@JayPatel-lz7wz

2 ай бұрын

​@@AutoVr8000🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

@OwlKing686

2 ай бұрын

They sometimes change aircrafts at the last minute though...

@makaveli8979

2 ай бұрын

​@@OwlKing686true 😮

That is a very specific warning about 787 structural integrity. The FAA should get a team together to investigate the fuselage fitting problem, and if that could result in a future disaster from fatigue.

@fiskmasadventures

2 ай бұрын

That is literally what is said at 0:12 that the FAA are doing.

@trentallman984

Ай бұрын

All federal agencies are captured by the industry they regulate. Don't count on it.

oh no, this "whistle-blower" definitely has a "suicidal" "tendency"

rest in peace whistleblower

@Alastair_Adana

2 ай бұрын

Tragic how no one saw the signs of his suicide

@verttikoo2052

2 ай бұрын

He was also so surprised to find it out.

everyone in unison now, "if it's Boeing I'm not going".

@TheOzthewiz

2 ай бұрын

AMEN!

Boeing needs to review what former employees are saying rather than trying to coverup and defend their record. This resistance is not reassuring.

Remarkable undoing fur what was once a gold standard aerospace company.

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

Nothing was "undone" buddy, apart from media hype and lies. Literally nothing happened. The 787 has proved itself by flying for over a decade with zero incidents

@FreddyNL

Ай бұрын

@@AverageAliengotta agree with you in this one, Boeing is being scrutonized by the media. The B787 hasn’t had any incidents, yet ‘whisteblowers’ seem to be coming from everywhere all of a sudden trying to demonize Boeing. Another example is the loss of a wheel of a United 777, which is not Boeing’s fault, but rather poor maintenance from United.

"Boeing needs a 'strong engineering lead' to clean up the fallout from its latest crisis, airline CEO says...Emirates president Tim Clark said the only "fix" to Boeing's problems is to let an engineer lead the firm...Experts say Boeing CEO Dave Calhoun, who announced plans to resign on Monday, had a background in finance and business..."28 Mar 2024 Yahoo News.

@DR_1_1

2 ай бұрын

Financial engineer, maybe...

@DABK2024

2 ай бұрын

and the guy before him that oversaw the 737 Max crashes was a lifelong engineer.

@reecom9884

2 ай бұрын

@@DABK2024 Who forget his engineering education and thought only of finance and business and his bonuses!

@AutoVr8000

2 ай бұрын

I think there has been a foul play at Boeing.

@dressageandalusian

2 ай бұрын

@@DABK2024he should have known better than to try to put those bigger engines on airframes that are too low. Hence the placement and need for MCAS, just to get half of an order to Airbus. Half of that order wasn’t worth all of this. They needed a new, higher, airframe!

The only people who should fly Boeing, are the employees of Boeing and the FAA, as well as all politicians. Also, the whistleblower needs to get water tight personal security in place.

@chrisx5127

2 ай бұрын

I only fly Airbus. Boeing is dead to me after the 737's Max crash.

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

​@@chrisx5127You aren't very bright clearly. The MAX is the safest plane in the sky right now. The two crashes were caused by pilot incompetence.

@FreddyNL

Ай бұрын

@@AverageAlieni bet you aren’t very bright as well. Boeing didn’t mention MCAS anywhere in the manual, so pilots didn’t have to get a new type certification. How are those pilots at fault?

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

@@FreddyNL funny how first world pilots had no problems and never crashed because of MCAS...

What's worse than being a Boeing investor? Being a Boeing passenger. And what's worse than that? Being a Boeing whistleblower. I hear the life expectancy is short.

"Boeing says it is fully confident in the plane" Boeing was fully confident with the max too. Zero point zero credibility.

@Eric_Bassett

2 ай бұрын

The 787 has not had any issues in its 10 year existence, this has all been over sensationalized.

@JamesFaye-lt4dv

2 ай бұрын

As were those people in Indonesia and Ethiopian.

@9999AWC

2 ай бұрын

@@Eric_Bassett While I agree things are being blown out of proportion, the 787 did get grounded after issues with their batteries and cracked windscreens. And it is also well known the South Carolina plant had a lot of QC problems with their 787s.

@xiayabennett6982

2 ай бұрын

Exactly.

@jonesjones7057

2 ай бұрын

@@Eric_Bassett January 2013 FAA grounded the entire 787 fleet due to battery fires. No issues?

Years gone by some poor country going buy these used old aircraft’s and it’s going to break midair. No one going to take responsibility.

@CellBlok69wLamp

2 ай бұрын

It's the responsibility of the owner to maintain the aircraft.

@zerone9521

2 ай бұрын

@@CellBlok69wLamp maintain? the whole thing is garbage

@andy99ish

2 ай бұрын

@@CellBlok69wLamp Indeed . According to MANUALS from the MANUFACTURERS. But if the manufacturer does not admit design/production shortcomings he will not account for them in maintenance manuals.

@iamLODD

2 ай бұрын

@@zerone9521the 787 has never been involved in a fatal accident and has 0 hull losses and 0 deaths

@missbettyxxx

2 ай бұрын

@@iamLODDfor now

Put that person in witness protection now

13 years so far, over 1110 787's flying around the world.. 0 structural failures. Not saying it couldn't happen, but it hasn't happened yet, and to my knowledge so far there have been no reported issues of any 787's fuselages (or any other component) being compromised during a level d check.

@bassdrumflextime1253

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. I feel like the problems with Boeing are extremely exaggerated by the media. Many types of Boeing aircraft, including the 737 max and 787s fly over my house everyday and none have crashed into my house or broken apart midair.

@morganmccarthur1633

2 ай бұрын

I remember drilling the composite material at Boeing in the 787 factory in Charleston, SC. MUCH stronger than steel and impossible to break in half. You would burn up drill bits before drilling through this material. Danage by bumping into it is a different story.

@MasterRoss-sn7dl

2 ай бұрын

Overall air travel is safe. But the fact that it’s happening and has happened leaves ppl really freaked out-like me. Technology has made things a lot more Complicated

@ax.f-1256

2 ай бұрын

No 737 crashing because of rudder problems until 1991. Does that mean that the old rudder system on the 737 was perfectly safe and all people that were warning about it for several years were wrong ? No 737max crashes until Lion Air 610. Does that mean the 737max and the MCAS system were perfectly safe despite Boeing E-Mails proving that employes were warning about the system before the crash ???? The 787 will probably crash sooner or later. And it will crash because of hidden design flaws and manufacturing faults that were swept under the rug. Exactly like the whistleblowers said they will. Exactly the same way the cargo doors problems on the DC-10 which caused it to crash. It's just a matter of time when Bean counters take the helm at an engineering firm. Boeing is done, for. It's over. The bean counters ran another company into the ground. Like they always do.

@savagesteve5894

2 ай бұрын

Fatigue and stress is best measured over real world conditions even though design is typically performed under accelerated lab conditions. Annual inspection and test of all fatigue prone surfaces should reveal any non conformities. QA 101

Hopefully this whistle blower is not “suicidal.”

@morganmccarthur1633

2 ай бұрын

He had three bullet wounds in the back of his head. They said: "worst case of suicide I'd ever seen."

@cloudstreets1396

2 ай бұрын

My point exactly

This probably applies only to the South Carolina factory. As most Boeing engineers say they won't fly on 787. Also many airlines will not accept 787 planes from this plant

@callmethreeone

2 ай бұрын

If Boeing is unable to control one of its facilities it is a company issue. Is the South Carolina plant exempt from company procedures and policies? If not they could have done something about it, easy conclusion to arrive at. I thought the 737 was made in Washington and the fuselage in Kansas, now we have two models and more locations in the mix.

@UT48D

2 ай бұрын

All 787 are made in SC factory for a few years now, Boeing closed down their 787 Seattle production few years ago.

@mohwybar5832

2 ай бұрын

The execs will fly on their planes, unless they want media attention and a bag of money

@callmethreeone

2 ай бұрын

@@UT48D 737 not 787 he is arguing one location yet multiple models are being investigated made at multiple locations

@UT48D

2 ай бұрын

@@callmethreeone 737? What are you talking about? He’s not arguing 737, he’s talking about 787 production so is the news story. Read his original post again, seriously it’s simple English not that hard to comprehend, you can do it!

You notice in all of the comments they haven’t actually denied what he said or said that no shortcuts were taken

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

​@@GNMi79What else do you want them to say, genius? That's literally all the facts

I hope that this whistleblower is in the Witness Protection Program. 😮

Never going on a Boeing again... I feel like they just estimated the crashes/compensations in their finances...

@gnosis7662

2 ай бұрын

Same here. I simply don't trust them anymore. When I book I always make use it's Airbus.

@RM6737

2 ай бұрын

Exactly. Just like the Ford executives did in the 70s with the Ford Pinto.

@rsvpevents6780

2 ай бұрын

Yes. Which is crazy because it would actually be cheaper in the long run to build their plane safely in the first place.

@javiercruz6052

2 ай бұрын

How can you tell the difference

@Christian-vq8rd

2 ай бұрын

​@javiercruz6052 Book flights on Airbus planes. They will tell you the type of aircraft before you book a flight. I'll be flying American across the country in six weeks and the have both Boeing and Airbus. I'm going Airbus.

Boeing doesn't pass the Smell Test, I Think I'll drive

@NorthernChev

2 ай бұрын

And I'm calling you out. AS after a quick dive, this account comes back as a foreign dis-information bot.

@lucashsu6109

2 ай бұрын

I think you should stay home

The best thing a whistleblower can do is stay anonymous while they blow the whistle.

i heard from source that a lot of the dreamliners that were built in Charleston SC require a lot of them have shimming issues where gaps weren't closed up and now boeing is quietly repairing them but to do that, there is enormous amount of time required.

"Nightmareliner"

@jantjarks7946

2 ай бұрын

A well deserved title. Sadly.

@sonquatsch8585

2 ай бұрын

please let this be the nr. one comment by the end of the week in all of ytdom.

@rogithkumar3508

2 ай бұрын

deathliner

@heywatchme101

2 ай бұрын

Has any 787 broken apart😂?

@coletrickle581

2 ай бұрын

​@heywatchme101 None. If built properly, it's stronger than an aluminum skinned airliner. But it begs the question, was your particular 787 built to design standards?

When flying in a Boeing you might want to include a parachute as part of your carry on.

@derald614

2 ай бұрын

Wouldn't matter

The burden of proof is on Boeing at this point not the whistleblower

@OfficialSheffieldCouncil

2 ай бұрын

No it’s not. That’s not how burden of proof works.

@dressageandalusian

2 ай бұрын

@@OfficialSheffieldCouncilit is when they have been in hot water for years now, getting worse with the MAX planes needing MCAS because to get half of an order going to Airbus, they needed to get bigger engines on an airframe that’s too low. They needed a new, higher airframe but wanted to cut corners.

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

Wrong, it's on the whistle-blower

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

​@@dressageandalusianEvery new plane has something similar to MCAS, airbus or Boeing, it was pilot error that downed the two max planes

I've worked with Boeing 737-300/700/800 and 767-200/300 for more than 6 years! I used to LOVE their reliability! Now, I fly ONLY Airbus... PERIOD!

@rugger1009

2 ай бұрын

You’re ridiculous - two of the safest planes ever.

@01leland

2 ай бұрын

I worked on commercial for 35 years and will confidently fly on any Boeing or Airbus aircraft.

@S0undwav

2 ай бұрын

@@01leland I would fly in Boeing aircraft but not in 787 & 737 max series those are ticking bombs.

@chrisx5127

2 ай бұрын

Also FAA should be disbanded! Garbage

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

Their reliability is still impeccable and unmatched. Airbus don't have anywhere near the number of successful flights Boeing has

UPDATE: Boeing is upgrading all Pratt and Whitney engines to Briggs and Stratton on the 787 Dreamliner!

@benoitmorin2644

2 ай бұрын

lol!!!! Isn’t it lawn mower engine!!!😂

@dmcd7333

2 ай бұрын

LOL man!!! Great one!

@Bransomware

2 ай бұрын

😂

@larryd9068

2 ай бұрын

The pilots have to use a pull cord to get the engines started! 😀🤣🛫🛬🪂

@FEboats

2 ай бұрын

Briggs engines are good. There’s a difference.

It wasn't suicide!

If you are hired onto the 787 assembly program in Charleston, SC, you are sent to a school where they required you to do very demanding and precise assembly projects before you ever set foot inside of the factory. In these schools, I noticed that the required tolerances were extremely strict. But when I worked in the factory, I noticed that wing mounting countersunk lug bolts that should be nearly flush with the composite surface were well below the tolerances required in the school. These lug bolt holes were drilled by a robotic machine. It looked like they were drilled past 1/3 the thickness of the part.

Considering the Fuselage is of Composite material and they did have problems with drilling structural alignment holes - including the amount of holes they could drill while the drills were still sharp and cut properly. It's what you get with self regulation of the airline manufacturing industry by the FAA.

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

Over a decade with zero incidents. 787 still going strong

@ausmartin1

Ай бұрын

@@AverageAlien Luck over quality

Last time I flew was on a JAL 787. January 2024. JA844J for JL65, then JL745. Nothing wrong. But this…

@DR_1_1

2 ай бұрын

Etihad, nov. 2023, jan. 2024. On the 2nd flight the entertainment system had a few issues on a majority of seat, ie it was off a good part of the flight, but apart that and some windows that would not dim correctly, I didn't notice anything. Also we were rerouted over Iran, but that was the other leg, on 777's...

@roadrunner9887

2 ай бұрын

I fly the LATAM 787 every three months from Miami to Santiago.. So far I love the plane.

@jwil4286

2 ай бұрын

I JUST flew on an AA 787 (I don't know the registration number) twice for AA722 and AA723. Same.

@nathanaelsegura2535

2 ай бұрын

​@@roadrunner9887Do not fly BOEING airplanes, instead fly only Airbus A320neo.

@raphaelmiguelbalon9226

2 ай бұрын

@@nathanaelsegura2535 How about the A330?

RIP in advance

@mohwybar5832

2 ай бұрын

No, he won’t die anytime soon

@yulissa9600

2 ай бұрын

@@mohwybar5832 let's hope not. I quit the industry last year because of how much of a mess it was. Boeing isn't the only problem, but I digress 🤫

@marinadimas3470

Ай бұрын

He just did.

This whistleblower needs to get personal security because the last guy that came forward ended up dead.

@marinadimas3470

Ай бұрын

And now he is as well

I don’t know the specific technical details of the whistleblower’s accusations. However, concerning Boeing’s rebuttal: Stress testing is not fatigue testing. A flawed carbon fiber construction could be difficult to predict or detect impending fatigue failure. The mechanisms of fatigue failure for steel and aluminum are well understood and statistically predictable. Carbon fiber not so much.

@edthelazyboy

2 ай бұрын

I'm almost sure the Boeing engineers know this better than us combined. The board of directors? They probably don't have a clue.

@xiayabennett6982

2 ай бұрын

Which is what happens when you place accountants in charge of an engineering company

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

​repeating the same tired propaganda lines over and over won't make it true pal.

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

The 787s been fine for over a decade.

Normally this would seem improbable until you remember that screws are missing and door plugs are popping off of Boeing planes.

I doubt this is valid. With the stresses of repeated pressurizations we'd have seen this failure mode already. The 787 undergoes 600 cycles per year on average and one 787 delivered in 2012 has over 16,500 cycles. If he's saying this is a brand new issue, and he was the quality manager, he should face charges.

@jp7585

2 ай бұрын

So a typical 30+ year old 787? That sounds like extremely high quality. The original testing suggests we'll see 40 year old 787s still in service. There's no such data that shows longevity of that sort for Airbus A330 or A350. And the A380 is ready for the boneyard on it's 2nd D check.

Over 1000 delivered, over 10 years of flying, not a single hull loss..

@taags

2 ай бұрын

Yet. What is the lifetime of this model?

@idigbebop

2 ай бұрын

Amen. It's a great plane.

@ericbus3457

Ай бұрын

True, but the thing with fatigue is that it happens after quite some time

@Jen-ur4ut

Ай бұрын

So it’s overdue. Thanks for the warning.

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

​@@Jen-ur4utin your gullible imagination maybe

I flew on this plane for 32 hours round trip to Australia last year. It was a brand new plane and I am glad I didn't knoww about these issues otherwise I would not have gone.

@emileserper6355

2 ай бұрын

I flew on a dreamliner last summer with a bunch of kids from the children's choir where i teach, on route from San Francisco USA to Athens Greece (with one stop). we were heading to a major choir festival and competition. these kids are bright, talented and dear to all of us and i'm glad we were lucky enough to make it in one piece.

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

Sounds like you're still alive to me. As are the hundreds of thousands of other passengers travelling on the 787 for over a decade. Imagine falling for some cheap media hype and lies

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

Lucky to survive something with a 100% survival rate? Clearly not the brightest are you

@emileserper6355

Ай бұрын

@@AverageAlien bro how far down did you scroll just to find this comment and defend a multi billion dollar corporation where are your priorities at bro

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

@@emileserper6355 defending the truth* get your facts straight pal

This is silly , this just sales news and ratings . A sheet metal plane could also blow apart mid air if the outflow valve for pressurization fails after thousands of flights .

Never felt safer than on an ElAl 787. But after hearing this? We put insane trust into these companies so transparency is the lowest bar.

@trave7644

2 ай бұрын

The reports about how badly this plane is built was all over; watch the Aljazeera doc. on it. Even the engineers who work 787 say they woudnt fly it.

@Random_Eebs

2 ай бұрын

🤮 el Al? The airline of a genocidal terrorist state?

@TheOzthewiz

2 ай бұрын

Are you saying that "self regulation" is NOT a good idea?

@J.A.Z-TheMortal

2 ай бұрын

​@@TheOzthewizShhhh dont say that in America. We are told since childhood that corporations are perfect and CEOS are saints. Either your suport them 100% and never to question them or automatically you are a commie. No in between

@sfopaladin2661

2 ай бұрын

@@trave7644 You are so right Sir. Saw the AlJazerra doc years ago. Proof was when airlines with contractual obligations were refusing delivery of any plane from the SC plant was holding up. Other airlines followed suit. MD Boys were worried their yacht might not get built in time for spring. They sprung into action. They closed the Seattle 787 plant.

Protect that whistleblower at all costs before another "suicide".

@Eric_Bassett

2 ай бұрын

You have no way of knowing of theres truth to what they are saying or not, the 787 has been in the air for a decade and there hasn't been one case of one coming apart.

The 787 has a near perfect safety record. I’ve flown on the 787 five times. Two on El Al (Israel’s national airline), LOT Polish (Poland’s airline), and Qantas (Australia’s national airline). I love that aircraft because of how quiet it is. I flew on Qantas a combined 28 hours and 57 minutes getting from LAX to MEL and vice versa.

@abhinavm1995

2 ай бұрын

SO ?

@FrewstonBooks

2 ай бұрын

Quiet? Noisiest widebody I have been on - and I've flown them all. Last 787 flight was BA Premium Economy (so well forward), yet I was shocked at how noisy it was. On walking through the terminal at my destination, I found I was walking alongside the captain and first officer. I asked the captain why the 787 was so noisy? Not from where I was sitting was his reply! Right....

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

​@@FrewstonBooks It's the quietest wide body in existence. This is a fact. You are either confused or lying.

I like how ppl are more concerned about another whistleblower potentially getting killed next more than the fact that if this concern is true most of every airliner’s long haul fleet is basically a russian roulette of which 787 is to break apart mid flight first

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

None of them

At this point I honestly don't know what else must happen before someone takes action.

If its Boeing I aint going

@buzz5969

2 ай бұрын

I see what you did there.🧐

@yasminbarry7941

2 ай бұрын

​@@buzz5969😂😂😂

@chrisx5127

2 ай бұрын

I actually did that. Had a flight via Delta airlines that was switched from Airbus to Boeing 3 days before my flight, I called them and they apologized and switched me to another Airbus. I only fly in extreme circumstances, so I wont' put much of a dent in Boeing wallet. I simply don't trust pilots.

@yasminbarry7941

2 ай бұрын

@@chrisx5127 You probably mean "I don't trust BOEING"?

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

​@@chrisx5127you're obviously not so bright

Boeing has the best hitmen

Gosh imagine that, travelling 500mph at 35,000ft and the fuselage just breaks apart, instant death! They mention this could happen after thousands of Flights well we are getting to that point now where the dreamliners will of flown that amount of flights as the airplanes been around sometime now!!

Who actually thinks that the fuselage is held together with aluminum and rivets?! It is joined at many points in the frame members!, talk to an aerospace engineer, my goodnes!

I have no clue how can media sites can have anyone who says is a Boeing whistleblower speak bs, The 787 has been on service for 11 years with 0 hull loses/fatal crashes.

I know someone who worked for them. I’m so glad they got out because the pressure they put on their employees is not good.

That guy should be put into witness protection. They really should shut Boeing the 🤬down. Makes no sense why they make so many intentional mistakes and remain operational.

GET HIM INTO PROTECTIVE CUSTODY *NOW NOW NOW*

@marinadimas3470

Ай бұрын

Too late now

@goldenretriever6440

Ай бұрын

@@marinadimas3470 I’ve heard

So the 787 has been around 15 years with no crashes…. Is he saying that the lifespan of the planes should be shortened?

Boeing stated that the plane was designed well. They never said these particular aircraft were assembled as was designed and was rechecked.

Oh great! Yet another thing to undermine consumer confidence in 2024 - just what we needed.

Didn't Calhoun just got 50 million ?

@guardianofthegalaxy2051

2 ай бұрын

And stock option!

Gonna be on a 787 in about 6 weeks. Good to know i could get the aloha air 243 experience on the house.

Protect him at all cost

Bring back McDonnell Douglas so they can build safe planes like the DC-10

@Airpaycheck

2 ай бұрын

The current Boeing is McDonnell Douglas soooo…….

@flythebus

2 ай бұрын

If you know, you know!

@flythebus

2 ай бұрын

​@@Airpaycheckthe comment went right over your head

@vintagetriplex3728

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I am sure the Death chack 10 was a safe airplane. Lol.

@xiayabennett6982

2 ай бұрын

Nice joke

This is what happens when there is no competition. Too big to fail.

@chrisx5127

2 ай бұрын

Airbus and eventually Quanta and KLM.

is that the same quality and engineering tests to ensure the plug door bolts were in place and done up to specification?

If it ain’t Boeing, you ain’t dying.

This is getting absurd the piling on. The news is blaming Boeing for 20-year-old airplanes having issues. Now a plane that’s flown probably 1 million flights could break apart mid air?

@TylerSmithMusic1

2 ай бұрын

Maintenance isn’t being done properly then which is still in Boeings realm of responsibility

@elizabethheyenga9277

2 ай бұрын

You are feeling sorry for Boeing? just wow. Metal fatigue in airplanes is a real concern and issue, Boeing has done many sketchy things and there is no reason to trust them. The whistleblower found dead made sure to tell us it wouldn't be a suicide. I bet you believe it was. Wanna buy a lake in the desert I'm selling?

@James-xs9mn

2 ай бұрын

@@TylerSmithMusic1 No it's not, It's the airlines responsibility to maintain their aircraft not Boeing.

@DrJonZoidburg

2 ай бұрын

How long is it Toyota's responsibility to maintain your car? Things wear out and fail unless properly maintained, and even then, most parts are life limited.

@NorthernChev

2 ай бұрын

@@James-xs9mn And your account comes back as "questionable". Cyabra has you in the dis-information category.

Boeing: We are 'fully confident' no one will ever be held accountable.

The stress testing is only valid when the airframe is constructed properly. 😊

I’m skeptical, only because the 787’s record is impeccable when it comes to safety. If airlines aren’t maintaining them properly, that’s a different story. I flew one from Los Angeles to Tokyo couple years back and we hit, what the pilot called, major turbulence. People on the plane were praying and we were bucking like a bronco on speed for a good half hour. The plane took it in stride and the last 3 hours were as smooth as glass. Launch an investigation and have unbiased structural engineers look it over and give their assessment.

@coolblue1812

2 ай бұрын

His assessment is failure is not intermediate. The materials integrity and installation shortcuts would shorten the life of the aircraft. Composite materials are known to delaminate subjected to environmental degradation, UV exposure, temperature cycling, vibrations, etc. So, keep an open mind, you might learn something.

@risinbison1106

2 ай бұрын

@@coolblue1812 I would say deductive reasoning isn’t your strong suit. One person’s opinion doesn’t and shouldn’t immediately overrule an entire engineering department of a company that’s been in business for decades. I know it’s more fun to cry the sky is falling because, you believe, it makes you appear smarter even when it apparently doesn’t.

@coolblue1812

2 ай бұрын

@@risinbison1106 What if I told you that I spent twenty years at Boeing and I was part of the 787-8 program from cradle to grave.

@jeffreyatkins1668

2 ай бұрын

Let's keep it real. The 787 has had it's problems in the early productions. I have few on the 787 at least 4 times a year for 10yrs.Great aircraft to travel on. It was also the plane that sent AIRBUS back to the drawing board to update the A350 Remember it was supposed to be a update of the A330. The dreamliner bought in new technologies and materials that at the no other aircraft company had. I am sure the airlines have an inspection process in place to check for defects in the aircraft structure,after so many hours of flights.

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

​@@coolblue1812and that "shortened life" will still be far longer than any aluminium aircraft

watch if this whistleblower may end up "commit suicide" just before the trial like the other guy

When will this be OVER????? Boeing, get it TOGETHER!

I really hope the FAA will check this out and make sure this plane is safe🙏

And Calhoun got 50 million for leaving

@freddiethompson58

2 ай бұрын

He should get 50 years in the jail instead!!!

Boeing’s real problem is because it is now run by bean counters (accountants) not engineers. All for maximum temporary stock prices.

Hearing the words quality and Boeing in the same sentence, feels strange to me considering recent events.

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

What recent events? Literally nothing has happened. Media lies really get to simple people, huh

Take a look at the stress test. People that have no idea about how this airplane was made making a new report is crazy

From the news story, it seems a dubious claim. Is there any source with more details? Such as location of the weaknesses, number of cycles to expected failure, does it affect all 787s or just certain ones, etc.

@sonquatsch8585

2 ай бұрын

as if boeings safetly record has been flawless.

How and why would a quality control engineer not have all the testing data?

South Carolina's production is reportedly worse than their factory in Washington State. Unions are important!

Boeing can't know how safe the fuselage is over thousands of flights nobody really know there no scanner available to scan composite materials for cracking or fatigue that's why a lot of parts are still made from alloys

I was on a flight in a 787 in early Jan 2020 & I remembered watching the overhead luggage compartment swaying side to side so violently I thought the top of the plane will just fly off. We landed about 30 minutes later after an 8 hour flight but now I still worry about 787's.

@mosesmccabe8983

2 ай бұрын

Same, I experienced that in Jan 2024 on an international flight.

@kokaboba

2 ай бұрын

Me too, July 2023. Was weird to look forward and just see the whole cabin twisting and shaking. Frequent flier, never seen that before.

@jasono2139

2 ай бұрын

Ummm... that's all planes. Airplanes aren't designed to be perfectly rigid.

@jasono2139

2 ай бұрын

​@@kokabobaI've seen this once before as well... because I was sitting in the very back of the plane. Most of the time I sit in the midsection... where you can't see this occurring.

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

Kid, you have no idea what you're talking about 😂😂😂😂

Comforting for those boarding...

It’s giving “OceanGate defends Titan submersible”

R.I.P to the whistleblower in advance😬

I know the engines could fall off too. Low strength bolts and supports to save money…

@mikeatcora

2 ай бұрын

1979 all over again...DC10.

@AverageAlien

Ай бұрын

Sure you do pal, you know more than all the real engineers that designed this plane

This was first claimed in a documentary about 10 years ago, and I haven't flown on a dreamliner once, always booked flights that will use a Airbus A350/A380

@yasminbarry7941

2 ай бұрын

So I guess this is an accident waiting to happen.

Dreamlike becomes Screamliner....😅😂😅

What likely happened is homeboy didn't get the promotion he wanted. Now he's a 'whistleblower'. What's worse is that people in the comments have no brain and believe 1 person making a claim without understanding there are hundreds of people involved in testing and safety.

@TheOzthewiz

2 ай бұрын

And to top it all off "all those hundreds of people" are TRUST WORTHY BOEING employees! lol

@yasminbarry7941

2 ай бұрын

​@@TheOzthewiz😂😂😂😂😂

That's why I try to avoid any Boeing planes. I never used to pay attention to what type of plane I used to get at until those 2 major Boeing crashes in 2018 and 2019.