You disregarded the biggest change to secret of mana's remake. The magic system. It's actually worthwhile now to cast spells on non-boss enemies and level up your magic without inn grinding. It was inncredibly rewarding casting stat ups and downs during regular encounters to level your magic and then restoring your MP from leveling up. This feature alone makes the remake better than the original. I grew up with the original, renting it every weekend from a game store until we got super lucky and found it for cheap at a pawn shop. A lot of childhood memories with it. But I'd still rather play the remake now, much as I prefer the aesthetics of the original. The gameplay improvements were just too huge to ignore.

@AustinSV

4 жыл бұрын

Appreciate this feedback and the anecdote. I pinned this for now so people can see. This is def something I've overlooked & this kinda thing is why I wanna give Trials of Mana more focus in a future video; so these mechanic overhauls don't go over my head

@silvergoldgaming4354

4 жыл бұрын

Too bad it costs 40 dollars.💸

@rafnork9325

4 жыл бұрын

I have big problems with the voice acting and the art direction of the remake. It feels like they rushed through some critical design points.

@valiantparagonvideos2383

4 жыл бұрын

This is the first time I've heard someone speak positively of the remake, and it makes me excited to eventually play my copy....once I finish the original again on Collection of Mana.

@nowonmetube

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely disgraceful bullshit. Not only that it destroys balancing and makes everything worse, no even IF it was better (which it obviously isn't) it is so many other flaws, just one thing that's better doesn't compensate the hundreds of issues!

The Collection of Mana on Switch is the obvious answer. Got my physical copy preordered!

@rcshaggy

3 жыл бұрын

Well just getting the three games that were originally those, but I am getting the GBA Remake, the SNES game version, and Trials of Mana remake on Nintendo Switch... So kinda the same, but way different... That is why I didn't pick up the Collection of Mana...

@turanx0

3 жыл бұрын

@@rcshaggy The GBA version is not a remake but a reimagining. The remake is Adventures of Mana.

Sword of Mana needs more love. There's too much hate towards it... It's one of the most beautiful GBA games... and it's art style is gorgeous.

Btw they shoulda took the time and put more effort into Secret of Mana remake as they are into Seiken densetsu 3.. SOM is my number one fave kid since i had it when i was a kid, they shoulda done more with it.

@lirfrank

4 жыл бұрын

It's a real shame they never polished it like it deserved.

Very well made video. I'm super excited for the physical release of Collection Of Mana. Preordered my copy already.

Wow! You were extremely comprehensive and unbiased. I really appreciate that you broke down the pros and cons of each one. Especially pointing out the hitstun in secret of mana. Thank you so much !!

I am so hype for the Trials of Mana remake. I really hope it does well, because it was an EXCELLENT game that many people missed out on, because it came out so late in the SNES life cycle. i was blown away when I played SD3 for the first time.

@XristoferLee

4 жыл бұрын

It was only available through emulation out side of Japan. So it never actually came out on the snes, but only the super famicon

@StarDragonJP

4 жыл бұрын

I hope it does well, so they consider remaking Legend of Mana, & actually making a new game in the series

@jjbb84x

4 жыл бұрын

I dabbled with the Mana games, but I am pre-order excited for Trials of Mana. That's rare for me, especially for a moderately mid-to-low profile game!

@Presca1

4 жыл бұрын

I'm playing it from Steam and it's very good

@Masterpain33

4 жыл бұрын

Really want a trials sequel now. Maybe 1000 years later with descendants of og cast and maybe 6player party and one coherent story

I have very fond memories of emulating Secret of Mana & the fan-translated Seiken Densetsu 3 as a kid, so this was a joy to watch. Thanks for putting in the time and effort creating it!

Hey there. I completely agree with you. Also the SoM music choice (at the beginning of the video and of the SoM part itself) was great 👍🏼

Thank you so much for sticking to facts and being so clear with all the information you present. Great video!

Secret of Mana OST is just one of the best out there in existence. Yes, comparing it to music IN GENERAL, not just video games.

Thank you for these kind of videos, they're always handy and informative. I only played Mana on DS. But I've always wanted to try the originals, so glad to see them officially released on the West.

Awesome video! Great review!

After the video i went to amazon to purchase a physical copy but before hitting the purchase button i remembered that i already own it and its unopened in my shelf, well time to play this amazing trilogy

Wow thans for making this video! I didn’t know that there was een 3D version of Trials of Mana coming out. I love secret of mana and trials of mana. Can’t wait and I hope its also coming out on Steam someday

Very informative and well made. I did not know about various versions of this game. I still have to buy Adventures of Mana for the Vita. I cant wait to get the collection physically at the end of the month.

awesome, super-detailed video. very much appreciated.

I love these vids.Thank you so much for making these videos Ik they they are hard to do.

My personal favorite in the Mana series is Legend of Mana, and I really hope that it will eventually be made available on modern platforms, or possibly remade in the same beautiful style as Trials of Mana was. The new Trials of Mana should serve as a shining example to all developers of how you do a good remake.

@jeongyeonimvu5493

3 жыл бұрын

*TRUTHH*

@dementedvillian

3 жыл бұрын

I have some good news for you mate

Fantastic video Austin, thank you!

Secret of Mana holds a very special place in my heart and I've wanted to play it again sometime so this was a great video thanks!

i love the opening music of your video brings back so much memory 😌😌😌😌

"The Legend" is and always has been my fave song from the Snes Secret of Mana, also its interesting you posted this, a really cute neighbor just literally GAVE me her copy of Secret of mana for the Snes cuz i lost mine! what a babe eh :P

@akiinmoonlight79

4 жыл бұрын

so cute 😭♥️

Sword of Mana was awesome. Got me into the series and i wont forget finding secret of mana on the Wii shop and really getting into the series

> Trials of Mana is so loved by the west, it got a full and amazing fan translation in 2000 that made everyone love the game. > Producer: We want to change the game in the remake so it's accepted by the west. EXCUSE ME?

Thank you for the video!

Actually, I believe the Trials of Mana developers were stating that they didn't realize until well into development that there was a fan translation, and were surprised at what they called an overwhelming overseas response.

I love these kind of videos :)

Helpful. Thank you.

The best Versions for the first three Mana-games are for me Sword of Mana (the gba-remake of Final Fantasy Adventure, Mystic Quest whatever), the Snes-original of Secret of Mana and the Remake of Trials of Mana. Sword of Mana is more like the 16-bit Games of the Series. We had more text yes, but more Story with some very good scenes. The Battlesystem is the update of Trials of Mana. It doesn´t allow you to spam like in Secret of Mana, but you are not so helpless by using of magic, like Trials of Mana. Oh and there some other Scenes if you play the Girl. Secret of Mana for snes is still the perfect version on the original console and the Switch. You have a good 16-bit graphic with charme and the Soundtrack is awesome. Yeah you can spam the magic and the bosses are with good Training at the end very easy, but hey the other points are good. This point is only for me: the german Translation is so funny with some good refenreces of the german modern culture of the second half of the 20th century, thanks Claude Moyse. Trials of Mana the remake has the better battlesystem than the original, so sorry. I want to like the original, but it is for me to slow and by the using of magic you are helpless and lose the HP which you healed. By the graphic is the snes-version better. The Soundtrack is by both great!

You should go over the different versions of the first six Final Fantasy games too when you get a chance. There are SO many of them and a lot of drastic differences too, especially where FF3 and 4 are concerned with their NDS remakes.

@ASolidSnack

4 жыл бұрын

If you do this, I highly recommend checking out these extremely detailed explanations of the translations of FFIV and VI, that go a long way to disprove some misconceptions about the accuracy of various translations: legendsoflocalization.com/final-fantasy-iv/ legendsoflocalization.com/which-final-fantasy-iv-translation-should-you-play/ legendsoflocalization.com/final-fantasy-vi/ As well as this interview with the localizer of FFVI Advance and FFIV DS: archive.rpgamer.com/features/insidegaming/tslatteryint.html They're long reads but with such story focused games I think it's important to consider the accuracy of the translations!

@sheriffaboubakar9720

4 жыл бұрын

ShadowFenix217 FF1 and FF2 - PSP or GBA FF3 - PSP or PC FF4 - SNES (with Namingway edition patch) or DS or PSP versions FF5 - GBA (with sound restoration patch) FF6 - GBA (with sound and color restoration patches, and general violence patch and rage fix patch) You can find these patches on romhacking.net

I don't know about gameplay, but the android version is freaking ugly visually. Same with final fantasy 5 and 6 vs the GBA ones.

@nowonmetube

4 жыл бұрын

The 3D version is the worst.

@trixniisama

3 жыл бұрын

You mean the gba ones are worse ?

@masa5300

2 жыл бұрын

@@trixniisama android version is worse

@trixniisama

2 жыл бұрын

@@masa5300 I was talking about FF5 and 6.

Need the Legend of Mana remake now.

@ThoArtOne

3 жыл бұрын

If only as a AAA title, it's perfect and doesn't need a crappy 3D remake

@SCRaM01

3 жыл бұрын

Done.

@jargontaka

3 жыл бұрын

its coming 2022

@GabrielGAS1201

3 жыл бұрын

@@jargontaka isn't it summer 2021???

@ThomasJeff1898

3 жыл бұрын

About that, wait for June 24th. It's a HD remaster though.

I love your videos man

I have my same Sword of Mana cart from when I was a kid (it's the only __ of Mana game I've played) I have no idea it was a reimagining of Final Fantasy The Adventure. I learned something today!

That is a cool video. I bought SECRET OF MANA on PS4 a few months ago and I love it. You tell me, soon there will bei TRAILS OF MANA on PS4? All right I will buy it :)

Having never played the original Secret of Mana, I played the remake on the Vita. It was one of my least favorite Platinum trophy runs because of the frame rate dips. And the Vita was prone to crashes.

@federiconahuel6997

3 жыл бұрын

Omg true, playing on vita made me wanna finish the game faster. Fuck this dead port

I played and finished sword of mana on my old Gameboy advanced and honestly was the most fun I had in a while

I am just getting the SNES version and why I didn't get the Mana Collection for Switch, is because I got the other ones... Like the GBA remake called Sword of Mana, and got Trials of Mana on Nintendo Switch... So you can say I have a good Mana Trilogy of games to play...

Seiken Densetsu 3 was and still is probably my favorite ARPG ever for it's story gameplay and coop mechanics Really lookin forward to the remake though I'd love it if they'd add online co-op somehow

Sword of mana is my absolute favorite throughout the whole mana series, SD3 being not far behind

Can’t wait to play Seiken Densetsu remake, one of my facourite games. And really hope that Square continues doing other remakes. I’d love to see a FF vi remake.

@Djay_B

Жыл бұрын

The only thing they messed up in that game was the English voice acting, but everything else was stellar!

I'm a year late but I just played Trials of Mana all the way through. I played the Seiken Densetsu 3 pc emulator when I was in elementary school, around 2000 I think. I LOVED that game and played it several times throughout my life, the last time being when I was 23. Now I'm 31 and I have to say, I thoroughly enjoyed Trials of Mana. I turned off the voice acting (thank God they gave me the option) and I switched between the original soundtrack and the remake. Both good, but the original gets nostalgia points. While I loved the pixel art style of the original, I felt the new art style is reminiscent of the old styles feeling, and they captured the experience well. They did improve the leveling mechanics, and the fighting is more dressed up. Class changes mean a little more too, and the UI is smoother. All in all, I'd say both the original (emulator version) and the remake are very fun.

Trials of Mana better support 3-player online coop now that Switch Lite is out... imagine partying with friends when everyone has their own screen!!! :3

@AkaiAzul

4 жыл бұрын

Do you mean Trials of Mana remake? They already said it’s going to single player only.

@fullmetalgamer6062

4 жыл бұрын

Single player only. Sorry, man.

@JRDad

4 жыл бұрын

Trials of Mana on the Collection only supports 2 player unfortunately. And like others have said, The remake is announced to be single player only.

@AkaiAzul

4 жыл бұрын

@@JRDad Does the collection for Secret of Mana support 3 players?

@JRDad

4 жыл бұрын

AkaiAzul sure does.

Secret of Mana wasn't re-released on Wii U VC, only Wii (though it's backwards compatible, of course). Maybe things were different in the Us or Japan though? But We didn't get it in Europe and were stuck with the 50Hz, slower version on Wii VC sadly.

i finished the android version of secret of mana. in your video it seems the flammie landing has a low framerate and on my galaxy s6+ it was perfectly smooth. also i noted you spoke of having a controller but the game works great with the thumb. the shortcut you can prepare on the top right of the screen make the battles smoother than in the original. i really don't see how I could prefer the super nes version which is less good graphically (unless i use some action replay code to break the game).

I do have Secret of Mana on PS4. I did have fun playing it and will try to get more trophies, but I do have some issues with it. Do want a Switch and that collection

If only Secret of Mana Remake added the missing Glove Orb and missing Axe Orb to keep pace with the rest of the weapons/forging, I would’ve bought it 🙁

@nowonmetube

4 жыл бұрын

Ruby Diadem dude

@11:05-.-What are the odds that you would use the songs that was used in Homestuck as an example? (Good song btw, didn’t know it wasn’t original to Homestuck.)

I played the fan translation of trials of mana. I really liked the game. It was fun.

i'm a huge fan of original secret of mana and from looks i definitly prefer the original one, but still wanna give the 3d remake a try and coming from the future, i definitly recommend the 3D remake of trials of mana, very well made! and since i haven't tried the first ones listed in this vid, i probably know what to do next :)

There's also a feature phone remake of Seiken Densetsu 1 only released in Japan

I'm surprised you didn't mention the text width fan hack of the SNES version of Secret. Part of what made the original translation of Secret so bad was that the amount of text was incredibly truncated. The fan hack gives the game a better font and an "updated translation" with much more detail and nuance than the original. However it's since been admitted that the so-called translation was straight made-up and just a rewritten version of the SNES translation with no actual basis on the Japanese version. I think for 99% of people it's not a very viable alternative because of that, but if (like me) you just can't stand how simplistic the SNES translation is, but also prefer the SNES graphics to the point you wouldn't enjoy the remake, it's worth at least a consideration.

Sword of Mana happens to be one of my favorite games. It's such an amazing re-imagining this simple story into a more deep and emotional journey. I love the aesthetics, the colors, the gloominess, and even the soundtrack uses the limitations of the GBA soundchip for the atmosphere nicely. It's really on par with Metroid: Zero Mission as far as great GBA remakes go.

Does anyone have any comments about the Trials of Mana translation and the fan translation? Just wondering which one I should play.

@SmileyTrilobite

4 жыл бұрын

Have you seen this comparison? kzread.info/dash/bejne/c4po28-voMqzj5c.html

@sheriffaboubakar9720

4 жыл бұрын

serene.velocity Trials of mana snes rom was recently dumped. Play it on Snes9x.

The correct answer is the Rom version, on the emulating platform of your choice, with a nice CRT filter, patched with Queue's hack compilation.

Playing Adventure of Mana on my PC via Bluestacks is a great way to play it :)

Do you know if they fixed the defense to 0 bug in the Switch Mana collecion? thanks

@austinl8074

4 жыл бұрын

None of the games in the switch collection have any bug fixes. Trials has a few big ones that are still there as well. Crits don't work, so dex is useless minus one character that uses it for some spells, shields don't do anything, etc.

Just here, waiting for Legend of Mana on Switch...

For Adventures of Mana and Secret of Mana, the remake’s English translation is more faithful to the Japanese text than the one seen in Collection of Mana. Hence, if you want to read the dialogue as you play, the remake is the way to go. The characters work up a conversation when using an inn in the Secret or Mana. If Randi is alone in the inn at Gaia’s Navel, Luka can talk to him from afar.

So how does the trials of mana translation compare to the seiken densetsu 3 fan translation?

i have secret of mana on ps4. i bought it because of legend of mana. i love that game!

There was also a phone remake of Seiken Densetsu released in the mid 2000s that looked like a 16 bit game

Another issue with the PS4 version of Secret of Mana is in coop mode. You can't shortcut magic but you can in single player only, that didn't make much sense to me.

I actually am a big defender of the steam ports of the final fantasy snes games, as they actually have the superior monster spritework which i really like, and i think the character sprites are not as bad as everyone makes them out to be.

Play everyone! :D Except for the Smartphone version. :/ But every game is really awesome. And the Collection of Mana makes it even much more better. I even enjoyed the Secret of Mana Remake, even with these crashes, but still, I liked it. Everyone should buy the Collection of Mana. For me personally I bought the japanese version 2 years ago physically and now the Collection of Mana in German or the german Retail version. One thing I don't like that much at the Mana Collection: If you are saving a file on the german version for example, you cannot use THIS certain Save file in other languages. And that's not so cool. But I am okay with that, because I like to play these guys all over again. :D Thanks for your video. ^^

The biggest issue in the SOM remake is that you don't have the option to drop out/drop in any time in multiplayer. I also ask myself why they didn't at least add a mini map to the flying sequences. The gameplay itself is zoomed in too much and can get really confusing with the new perspective.

Took me over two decades to revisit and beat secret of mana. I felt an undeniable satisfaction. The switch collection of mana is optimal bc of the insta-save feature.

Is the mobile or vita versions worth buying to experience the game if I own the collection of mana?

I played secret of Mana on an snes emulator back in the day, and it wasn't very appealing to me. The battle system was nice but the art style remembered Chrono trigger too much so I just passed. Now with the 3D remake it looks fantastic I'll definitely try it.

There was a Japan-only 16-bit remaster of Adventures of Mana on mobile phones in the 2000s. The Android version of Secret of Mana also differs from the SNES original. Those versions could’ve been included in Collection of Mana.

Collection of mana games, can be played multiplayer with 3 players? It must be local or can be online?

Any news on the trials of mana comparison?

My favorite GB game was FF Adventure. I was really excited to hear it was being remade for the GBA and rushed out to get it. I couldn't even recognize it. It was a good game. But it wasnt FFA.

I’d rather have multiple new versions of Square Enix’s old games, as I want everyone to have multiple options to play the game, rather than just an emulated port or pixel remaster. A port or pixel remaster with an arranged soundtrack is fine. Final Fantasy I-VI got a pixel remaster, but at least it got an arranged soundtrack with live band and orchestra. I’d like to see a future version of Final Fantasy I-VI with voice acting, and with either hi-resolution (4K) 2D graphics, HD-2D (Octopath style) graphics, or preferably full 3D Unreal Engine 5 graphics (while retaining turn-based combat), or maybe two or all of the above.

I hope Adventures of Mana gets an upgraded PS4 version. Then we could have a 3D Collection of Mana

@mistressbayonetta9829

3 жыл бұрын

What a good idea the 3 remakes on one collection!

@jonespianist3189

3 жыл бұрын

I second that.

everybody hyping over the FFVII remake while I'm hyping more over the trials of mana remake

@peachymiku6432

4 жыл бұрын

Same here!

@RIELTURO

4 жыл бұрын

Both but FF7 Will over shadow Trials

@peachymiku6432

4 жыл бұрын

@@RIELTURO Maybe so, but I still prefer Trials anyway.

I'm Mixed between the Secret of Mana remake or the original SNES version

I just got the collection of mana for switch

Is the Secret of Mana 2018 3D remake's script taken from the mobile port or have they actually updated it a third time?

@mistressbayonetta9829

3 жыл бұрын

It's a whole new remake

I hope the remastered soundtrack in Trials of Mana winds up being as good as the original - Seiken Densetsu III is in the running for best music of any SNES game, and it has to compete with greats like Final Fantasy 6 and Chrono Trigger.

I feel like I'm the only one that still enjoyed the ps4 SoM....probably cause of my love and appreciation for the original....I did notice some things here and there like the removal of the cannon travel animation....strange how it became a "loading" screen....

Los efectos de cámara que parece que han empleado en el remake de trials of mana, parece el correcto, para los entornos 3d que han hecho, a diferencia del remake de secret of mana, que sólo parece que usaron modelados 3d y se ve sin vida el juego. A todo esto me quedo con los originales aún, pero aún está por probar el trials of mana que vendrá y esperando un remake del remake de sword of mana xd

I gave up on the SoM Remake (After being maximum hype, its probably my favorite flawed SNES game) when I encountered the same bug at the water temple dragon fight where he just spams magic with no rest frames. Also, I encountered a weird bug where I died but was still able to move around and was basically softlocked. Disappointing for sure.

I want Terranigma and Secret of Evermore on the Switch!

I didn't know Trials of Mana was Seiken Densetsu 3, I think I still have a fan-translated Seiken Densetsu 3 rom somewhere in my PC or my backup disks

It would be nice to have secret of mana remakes & adventures of mana remastered collection (ps vita versions) on the the Nintendo Switch

I love secret of mana

Finally someone properly pronounces Mana

I hope they'll do this for Final Fantasy 1-6 next as well as the Chrono Series.

You metioned the main FF games weren't in Europe before FF7, but I remember seeing advertisements fot the FF snes games in the early 90's Netherlands.

I have no experience with these games but the trials of mana remaster looks excellent. Would I need to play FF Adventure or Secret of Mana to understand the story or lore?

@dominiquejahshan4116

4 жыл бұрын

No not at all. Every game is a stand a lone story in the same universe. Sure there might be some little easter eggs but I'm sure you can definitely play it just fine without the rest!

@Pretzelman718

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Can't get rid of borders.....nuts borders have always bugged me and yes that means i would rather have the image stretched some and yes i know i am only part of a few that feel this way.

@nowonmetube

4 жыл бұрын

This is disgusting! I'd prefer black borders, but hey. Nobody should be able to play those games with stretched borders, it's just a disgrace. Then they rather not play it at all. (It's like if you put ketchup on an Italian's cooked food, he won't allow that 😂)

@ryanclemons1

4 жыл бұрын

@@nowonmetube to each their own i guess feel how you want.

How come you didn’t cover the 2006 remake Mobile phone remake of Final Fantasy Adventure? That’s the version I’m most interested in playing.

Personally, I like the font on the mobile versions.

Well, I played Secret of mana on my android phone... The control is fine , but something party AI got stuck sometimes Boss fight is frustrating , you don't know about magic spell It takes me 24 hours to finish the game But, ending😢 got me

I am surprised you never mentioned Legend of Mana for the PS1.

Sooooo, is trials of mana worth playing on the switch or is the fan translation better?

@airahfuji

4 жыл бұрын

Hunny u have the official translation now.. back then they just made do with the fan translation

@lukiapotato8526

4 жыл бұрын

It's very subjective: The translation was raw at its best (with what we can assume as "guessed" nation names. eg: Rolante & Navarre instead of Laurent and Nevarl, etc.) but didn't f*ck up Charlotte/Carlie's personality and speech like the official translation did. She may look young, and act young, but baby-talk was too much... The official translation presents us a better insight on the story, fleshes out some of the characters' personalities, purposes...And renaming some locations prolly got them an extra mark. (eg: Fan translation's Dragon Hole... oof) All in all, there are pros & cons to both versions. I grew up with the fan-translation, but I'm loving almost every bit of Trials of Mana in the collection.

I wish they did no polygon version of Secret of Mana because it could get the Breath of the Wild treatment. All the same kingdoms. Have Flammie only able to land in very select spots but have a massive map size without bounding in how the player can move. Considering Link to the Past vs Secret of Mana was a debate SNES players had at their launch it would be wonderful to see a game in this series get really epic exploration I stead of Trial of Manas very rudimentary and fenced in tiny areas (in an otherwise fantastic game)

Good video! Although Seiken is pronounced more like "say ken" "Sigh ken" would be saiken.