13:20 AR500 13:55 Safe Life Defense 15:08 VISM 16:57 Bullet Safe 17:58 Citizen Armor 19:26 Man-Pack

37:00 You're welcome...

@jeremyrobschilling

4 жыл бұрын

Wish I saw this comment earlier

@marioruiz7496

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@bryananderson3772

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@bobbylittlebear7662

3 жыл бұрын

You da man

@henryjiang9990

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

Outstanding review! Very thorough and balanced. Thank you!

Great video. I was leaning with SafeLife because I own their IIIA+ vest, but after seeing this video, I am going to go with Citizen for their backpack armor.

Demolition Ranch did a great video some time ago on AR500 IIIA, managed to stop a 12 gauge slug at the end, but with massive deformation

Great video! I wear Vism soft plates. I seem to remember a study showing that the average amount of books students carry are the equivalent to level 4 armor

@akbangers8854

5 жыл бұрын

Hey I'm young dude did the vism plates do a good job I really don't understand

@Ilovecupramen

5 жыл бұрын

Collector Nick nobody carries books anymore

@portalpacific4500

4 жыл бұрын

They are selling these same bags on ebay: www.ebay.com/str/Bullet-Proof-Bags

@xXSgtWolfXx

4 жыл бұрын

@@akbangers8854 no they dont. look at the backface deformation. even from a 9mm you'd be dead from the blunt force trauma to your organs

@conniestevenson226

3 жыл бұрын

@@xXSgtWolfXx what if the school books were behind the soft armor

This video is really cool. I believe that Vism does state its a "one shot" body armor.

Great job guys!

Can you test those AR500 Steel level 3 plate carriers with the TCM 22 9 mm by Rock Island arms

I would love to see a citizen armor panel in front of a man pack panel. And see what kind of performance combining the two would give.

@Victor-ze3sd

Жыл бұрын

It seems that 2 level 3A plates will give you level 3 performance.

There are of course some others out there but, what you guys should have touched on is what they're made of, polyethelene, ceramic composite or kevlar or something in between. The reason I mention this is because if ceramic composite armor gets dropped, it can crak - obviously weakening it. Regardless of that though, outstanding test. Granted, you blew through the armor with far more rounds than they're rated to take, I do agree with you, that Citizens Armor performed oustandingly well for only being IIIA rated. I woudn't hesitate at all to use that for vests. It is costly though.. Kudos to you both for doing this on your own dime. using a 357 lever action - definitely an interesting thought. Level IIIA armor is rated to stop pistols up to 44 magnum. Ummm.. shooting 357 from a rilfle is defintiely a bit more than it's rated for :) You guys were doing this test more kind of as a backpack armor test for kids backapacks which I applaud - and yes, it's a very sad state of affairs when folks start thinking of putting armor in kids backpacks. BUT, do look at some statistics please. How many kids in the past 10 years have been shot in the back with their backpack on? I can't find even one case. .... one additional small issue not taken into account of course for the case of backpack armor is "What else is in that backpack?" Any bullet has to go through that too. Interesting test. Let's not armor our kids backpacks though. Far better to give them armed protection by adults.

Great video, thanks a lot

From my understanding the nij hasn’t officially tested or approved any backpack insert. Companies make them in compliance to the standard though.

Are there kevlar bonded with resin plates?

It doesn't look like any of these are keeping me alive !

Yeah that type of clay is good for being a compressible media, but not for measuring backface. You need an oil based clay, and it has to be at a certain temperature to maintain the NIJ calibration :D Like you said though, the clay you used is good for showing backface.

@shooterreadyschannel9254

4 жыл бұрын

@Buffman - R.A.N.G.E, what IIIA panel would you wear? And what would you choose for concealable wear?

I am looking at 3a for a trauma pad, thank you guys. Looking at the vism

I like the yellow one !

Great video guys i liked it alot safelife is used by alot of police departments def not one i would use for a vest but maybe a backpack. Would love to see you guys shoot a hesco if budget allows. Agalite gear insert panel And Bam backpack armor

Malleable - capable of being extended or shaped by beating with a hammer or by the pressure of rollers

What would u consider thr best soft body armor, not or i least 2 o 3 diferent option to chose from

@concealedcarry

4 жыл бұрын

I think ignoring price we felt that the Citizens Armor inserts were the best.

Do you fabricate this all by yourselves or do they come from a major fabricator? What is the hollow cost of these, the inside job of these is the only part that is wrong, but everything else is Great 100% job guys !

The comments you guys were making make me think y'all don't really get the ballistics very well. A) A smaller caliber round is more likely, given good velocity, to penetrate body armor than a larger caliber. Therefore, the .357 loads out of a carbine were MORE than comparable to .44mag out of a revolver as far as defeating armor is concerned. You saying that it bothers you that the .357 showed you that a 9mm going fast enough would penetrate, is like saying you won't buy armor because the .223 went through. That shows that if you get a .22 going fast enough it will penetrate!! B) Hard cast lead is different than the soft lead used in the cores of fmj rounds. It is the BEST readilly available type of projectile for penetration. That is why it is used in bear loads, guys. Fmj's as you saw, deform considerably, and thus fail to penetrate, when striking armor. Hard cast lead bullets deform much less, allowing them better penetration. The reputation that fmj's have recieved for penetration is in comparison to hollow-point rounds that are specifically designed NOT to penetrate. The fact that most of these panels stopped hard cast .357 out of an 18" barrel is very impressive. It is quite reasonable that the stiff panel failed to do so considering its rating. The tests were very interesting and helpful, even if I am dissapointed in your analysis.

Alao reccomend using ballistic gel instead of clay if so plz tag me in a vis

I would gladly use any of the soft body armor in this video as a spalling catcher in front of a steel plate.

Can you guys suggest the best protection for high school kids that can transition from a book bag to an armored vest I am a volunteer firefighter I've been in emergency services for 25 years I have two teenage girls in high school all the suggestions would do me a lot of good I just worried about their safety thank you sir thank you for your service God bless

@joshuayonathan5373

5 жыл бұрын

Move to an area where you aren't concerned about your daughter being shot.

@Alejo__

5 жыл бұрын

Joshua Yonathan lol. Thats a dumbass comment to make. There isnt a zipcode specifically made for crazy people. They’re everywhere.

@o0XS

4 жыл бұрын

Try looking online. There are backpack armor plate inside for sell.

@ajaxracing

4 жыл бұрын

Bullet safe or safe light panels fit in a backpack and standard carriers(posted for future readers)

Im glad the put ar500 aside because there armor is good

So I've been looking at plates for my son in high school. I can see how the plate in bare form handles. What about a backpack with stuff in it with the plate. While contents won't stop a bullet it will reduce velocity. That may be a better test.

@djkhaledthelivingmeme8813

4 жыл бұрын

Andrew Wolfe you for real bro?

@Galt4570

4 жыл бұрын

He’ll never carry it. Kids school backpacks are already too heavy. It’s pointless to make him carry a heavy chunk of steel in case of something that so rarely happens.

@andrewwolfe8742

4 жыл бұрын

@@Galt4570 well it's not steel and the pack is actually pretty light since all of his books are ebooks. As for it's rarity, twice in two days did we have a credible threat. Besides an 8x10 plate class III comes in at about 5.5 pounds. That is a negligible weight for a strong kid.

I have a body armor accessory that would reduce BFS would you be interested in doing a review? it only weighs 25 grams. Also have videos as well

@enriquegarza9305

4 жыл бұрын

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@enriquegarza9305

4 жыл бұрын

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@enriquegarza9305

4 жыл бұрын

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@enriquegarza9305

4 жыл бұрын

Are you looking for the body armor or our padding??

CTR ring 🤙🏾

The velocity threshold is 2000 FPS to defeat body armor.

I was adding panels to my backpacks well before "consumer class bulletproof backpacks" became a thing. Scored a big rectangular level II panel with rounded corners years ago that fits the hydration area of my Rush 72 bag PERFECTLY. Like it was cut specifically for the bag. Ideally level 3a is preferred. But the fit, large coverage area, and all the shit in my go bag needing to be penetrated first combined with the fact that (hopefully) I'll be far away enough to evade > engage should the need arise. I'm confident enough that it's adequate being level 2. My boys starting kindergarten after this summer. Bess believe I'll be making sure his bag doubles as a sheild..

Now would this stuff stop knives and such?

@tbmllc7114

5 жыл бұрын

No only slashes and blood force impacts.

@dgd947a15fl

4 жыл бұрын

Soft armor can sometimes stop weak knife jabs, but are known to fail if the knife is continually pushed through. But lots of companies are now making Level 3A rigid panels out of polyethylene. Basically imagine the UHMWPE rifle plates, but thinned down to about a quarter inch and only meant to stop pistol threats. Those will stop stabbing threats. They also make what's being called "IIIA+" where a one pound 10x12 shooters cut plate will stop high velocity threats like 9mm from carbine length barrels and even 5.7. Some of them even stop subsonic 300 Blackout.

Has anybody heard of hexar rifle defeating armor plates?

THE IIIA ARE TO PROTECT AGAINS PISTOLS, NOT RIFLES,, IS IN HTE INSTRUCTIONS. UP TP 44 MAG.

Not carbon fiber it's treated kevlar

Vism in a carrier will perform better ! Vism is amazing and thin and light weight

My opinion maybe you start with the most powerful rounds 1st ...

The first 5 min probably could've been condensed to 20 seconds.

safe life is better, it have foam for reducing impact, so it's thicker.

I'm a public safety OFFICIAL and I am trying to see how I can Get a vest donated to me I'm using a vest that is from 2006 I'm currently very low on fund's because of child support payments and bills so if you have any information on how I can Get or what to do to Get a vest donated to me

Say it with me. “Cavitation.”

No 44 and a side plate? Cmon guys get it together.. Haha just kidding, as of now this is about the only comparison of its type posted, at least that I could find. So thanks on that front. And the odds of some kid running around like dirty Harry is pretty unlikely lol, unless his grandpa is hickock.

You bought a side panel to shoot the crap out of. It's only made for 1 hit lmao. I've seen there front panel soft armor stop a S&W 500

*Omg all that clay deformation looks painful I don't think my rib cage was intended to deform like that. Maybe wars should just be fought with Paint Ball... fully automatic +p+ paintball of course xD*

@foxmulder7616

Жыл бұрын

Suck your gut in lol jk

????

Why test with rifles when these clearly state they are rated IIIa which is not rifle certified? Seems stupid to me.

@doomtomb3

5 жыл бұрын

Did you even watch the video?

@s13ef9

5 жыл бұрын

At least for the 357 lever action... Its a pistol caliber round. I think they were using higher velocity 357 to test in place of the 44 magnum. Anything beyond that is likely just out of curiosity.

@TacticalBeard

5 жыл бұрын

Regular Guy Productions nah it’s just 357 and 44 get significantly higher velocity’s out of longer barrels

Boy you guys take a long time to get to the point almost fell asleep...☹️

@foxdumba4103

4 жыл бұрын

The gear shaped settings button on the bottom right of the video has a an option to change the speed. I always watch at x1.5 if there is talking in the video, x1.75 if it is just an action video.

you also have to take into consideration that you did shoot each with a lot of guns so a lot of it is inaccurate data

how to enjoy a video with that damn music

@BreadAndGatorade

4 жыл бұрын

fast forward

Too much-talking guys.

There’s no point of having a soft panel in a backpack. Toss in a hard steel panel that you will never have to worry about it getting scrunched up torn or wet and a steel plate will actually stop rifle threats

@scoobarsteve7948

5 жыл бұрын

if youre willing to haul an extra 10 lbs, I thought about it, put a level III 11x14 plate for a plate carrier, just to see how it would be, on top of all the other shit I was carrying, hell no

@HeavyMettaloid

5 жыл бұрын

Tactical Rifleman here on YT did a video on a dedicated armor backpack system some months ago. At the end, they put both IIIA soft plates together in the front and managed to stop 5.56. Video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mWGhmtaGodCqc8o.html

@rfi-cryptolab4251

4 жыл бұрын

@@HeavyMettaloid 2 level IIIA soft panels will not stop 5.56 shot out of a common barrel length AR-15, let's say 16" barrel. The test he did wasn't accurate because the steel target was reinforcing the soft armor panels. I shot my old police vest (Level IIIA) that had a 5"x8" Second Chance K30 special handgun threats plate in the front pouch. 5.56 55gr FMJ and 5.56 62gr M855 out of a 16" barrel both penetrated the K30 and the front and back IIIA panel. You'd need about 5 IIIA soft panels to stop M193 and 7 or 8 panels to stop M855.

@HippieMagic

3 жыл бұрын

@@scoobarsteve7948 lol yeah my Soft IIIa plate is under a pound.

People forget, you can STACK armor layers........also this new stuff is NOT NIJ certified.....it's junk. I would rather trust my life with older police and military armor(which is rated Much lower, but STILL takes assault calibers, because it's Over built)

@concealedcarry

4 жыл бұрын

Most of these are NIJ certified.

@markdahlia9543

4 жыл бұрын

I trust the new stuff more than the old stuff because of age and environmental factors

Vism soft panels and also many of their other plates are not nij certified. If you look at the manufacturer info it says tested but not certified. Vism actually only has one plate that is nij certified. www.ncstar.com/performance-gear/first-responders-gear/ballistic-panels-and-plates/bnijpc1012-nij-cer-panpehrdsh-cut10x12 You can also look at the nij website that list all certified armour. Take any vism plates and throw them in the thrash. They are unceritifed junk.

@94SexyStang

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't trust this new age junk

Clay to soft. You all should of had a standing dummy that don't move around so much. You did not have the bullet proof panels on a vest or tide down to anything. Of course they're going to deformed more. It like a rock going though paper. If the paper had a vest or taped down. The panel would not get deformed.

So that manpac crap is well, crap.

So much talking good God

A soldier was killed just from the impact. None of the rounds went through. Just the trauma from the hits caused heart failure.

Stop lolligagging and test them already

Too much unnecessary talk stopped 5 mins in

If the nra wants 0 gun legislation then it can pay for the backpacks an jackets and training for every single child who has to leave the house to go to school.

only in America can people talk about armor for child's backpacks like it is a normal part of going to school

@foxmulder7616

Жыл бұрын

Yeah cause children are totally safe in the congo, Afghanistan, Syria, Venezuela, Mexico, etc etc etc etc.. china... Where they harvest their falun gong citizens organs while they're still alive in mobile organ harvesting vans.. they have 2,000,000+ Uyghur Muslims in concntrcn camps ⛺⛺⛺..

@twe_music

5 ай бұрын

Sounds About WHITE

I'm not watching half a movie about this. Make the video shorter. There's not more than 12 minutes of actual content in here.

Level 3 A , is a joke nowadays . They are useless against rifles and their a lot of them out there. Don’t you think ?

@94SexyStang

5 жыл бұрын

you should probably do some research