⚠️Flashing red colors at 10:17 ⚠️ Btw, everyone please stop commenting one word at a time going forward, KZread recognizes this as spam and false engagement, and it will ultimately hurt the channel in the long run. My mistake. Don't be upset if you did this, but I'm going to try to remove those comments now to avoid further violations. No hard feelings, I appreciate you all for this, but no more lol ❤

@TooMuchDad

Жыл бұрын

An awesome video to wake up to! :)

@sonofskeletor

Жыл бұрын

Shid I mean I've never heard of your channel and this still popped up on my recommended so it worked TBH

@sonofskeletor

Жыл бұрын

Also damn nice video

@Loxosceles13

Жыл бұрын

Hey, cool video, but possibly consider a warning or something at part 10:17 when its showing zapdos's attack hitbox, its pretty flashy.

@DuringDark

Жыл бұрын

I didn't see it at release but cheers anyway cunt

Playing with Pokéballs on, toggled to the maximum quantity was always the most fun way to play as a kid with my brother and cousins. So fun and chaotic. Porygon was definitely the best one lol.

@GlitchmanVGM

Жыл бұрын

I also used to do that in both N64 Smash and Melee! When I was bored by myself, I used to play a team match as Pikachu (my favorite character) with two other Pikachus as teammates with 99 stocks vs a single Jigglypuff CPU on level 1 on the Mushroom Kingdom stage with Pokéballs as the only item on at maximum spawn rate. (I used to really dislike Jigglypuff back then lol!) The whole chaotic match lasted like an hour and I racked up a lot of vs mode play time which also unlocked other stuff in the game. Good times. 😊

@Rulytasho

Жыл бұрын

Eveyone who didn't do this as a kid is a freaking loser.

@Bazzlieo

Жыл бұрын

Melee 99 lives super sudden death mode 4 players small stage high item frequency poke balls only

@Thornbloom

Жыл бұрын

I always liked to play Super Sudden Death with Bob-Ombs set to High. Self destructs were...frequent.

@Mannu-ou6vz

Жыл бұрын

A game mode I liked playing with a friend was super sudden death mode and max items with only red shells...nowhere is safe.

One thing to add to Clefairy's selfdestruct is that it doesn't hurt the person that got Clefariy.

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

How did I not notice that? Thanks!

@marcosharm3344

Жыл бұрын

The developers decided this mechanic After a brawl in the office, with 5 people injured and 1 dead. After this accident, they wanted to finish developing the game as fast as they could, that's how melee was born and that's why we have Roy and Game & Watch ad low tiers. You have to believe what I Just wrote

I swear I once heard as a kid that Goldeen could rarely use Horn Drill for a one-hit KO. I never saw it but that's always my first thought whenever Goldeen is summoned.

@AKAProm

Жыл бұрын

I don't know what it was about Melee but there were TONS of playground rumors like that for this game. Especially online. Can't tell you how many fake characters or weird non-consequential rumors I saw on the net back in the day.

@ladyakkyn

Жыл бұрын

I heard that Goldeen in Brawl would use Imprison if it entered water and freeze (disable controls, not literally freeze) everyone else on stage. Imagine my disappointment when I finally pulled it off...

@aeolus15

Жыл бұрын

I feel like that's what the description for its trophy where mentioned Horn drill but, yeah I do remember seeing that info probably from the trophy description I mentioned. It's been 2 years since I've been on Melee

@poogly123

Жыл бұрын

As a kid, I could have sworn this was the case. It came out, I heard the critical hit sound, and I flew off the stage. I told everyone about it because I was so excited to find it out. Looking back on it, I was probably hit with Ness’s bat or a Jigglypuff Rest, but six-year-old me didn’t realize it.

@YouW00t

Жыл бұрын

I can imagine some kid purposely spreading this fake info as a way of playing mindgames with his friends.

Respect for the insane amount of footage collected for very specific situations

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

My hard drive is out of space. Too many mp4 files. Send help.

more casual-focused melee videos are genuinely a great idea, the content around the game is so hyperfocused on the competitive aspect (for good reasons), so i think ppl forget abt the amount of variety this game had to offer

@the9thinning1

Жыл бұрын

Very true

@TurbopropPuppy

Жыл бұрын

comp players: "what do you mean this party game has a party game in it"

@vwts

Жыл бұрын

As someone who played it casually a lot (and there are many of us!) this popped up in my feed and I’d never watched the channel before, so yeah it works

@rajkanishu

Жыл бұрын

and the modern games are even better on that aspect so naturally we want to see content on those too

@Sonicracer100

Жыл бұрын

I agree. It's a party game first and I still occasionally play with items with friends.

even the easiest to dodge pokemon are still useful, taking options away from your opponent is always good. if you play a character with a strong aerial the next time you get something like marill as soon as its about to hit them jump and do the strong aerial, they either jump into it to avoid the marill, shield to block the marill and wont be able to punish you or they just get hit by the marill and obviously cant punish and you can try to combo off that.

@EnharmonicYT

Жыл бұрын

It’s like what Alpharad said when he ranked all of Ultimate’s Pokémon, more specifically Abomasnow: The fact that you can avoid it doesn’t make it bad, the fact that you HAVE to avoid it makes it good.

Never thought I'd hear of a situation where Tackle is the strongest move in the game

@marcosharm3344

Жыл бұрын

Tackle Is great in real Life too, way stronger than razor leaf or bubblebeam!

"lugia is guaranteed to KO when it hits" being said while it's hitting someone that it doesn't KO is... an interesting editing choice

@sethstoll8525

Жыл бұрын

I think he meant lugia’s projectile, not its body hitbox. But yeah.

@tomfoolery5844

Жыл бұрын

I mean Ness is getting KO’d in the clip

@akihiko4346

Жыл бұрын

@@sethstoll8525 I think you mean Aeroblast?

@spergalicious27

Жыл бұрын

​@@akihiko4346🤓

@MixmasterCorn

Жыл бұрын

Ness got KO’d tho? It may’ve cut off a bit fast but ness got star ko’d

I always felt Ho-Oh and Lugia were the two best Pokémon in Melee (along with Raikou), because of their huge hitboxes and insane KO potential, either during the move or afterwards. And if I had to pick a single best Pokémon, it would be Lugia definitely.

in every smash game, having pokeballs (and assist trophies by extension), is always a blast. It changes the game up in a radically different way, where now you have an extra threat to work around in creative ways. I think Ultimate has the best balance of pokemon. Each one does great damage, but there attacks are limited in just such a way that they can be dodged if you know what you're doing.

@vyor8837

Жыл бұрын

Cept Kyogre still.

I'm glad I clicked on this video, very high quality and I appreciate that you don't go overboard with the "meme" style editing that a lot of other channels do.

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Memes must be used in moderation 🤌

1:42 Based for remembering Bonus Mode exists. I wish there was more love for stuff like Bonus Mode, Coin Mode, Stamina Mode & Single Button Mode, but those first two especially. Anyway, very interesting analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Future video idea?

@sagacious03

Жыл бұрын

@@CopperScott Potentially? Your call!

I loved the Pokémon event matches. Cool to see discussion and ranking of the melee Pokémon, def enjoyed

I actually went into this video expecting to disagree with a bunch of the choices thinking they would be pretty biased or misplaced verdicts, but I literally agree with every placement on here bro. We all know how oppinionated and toxic some of us in the smash community are, so it is not only a surprise that I agree, but like, almost all the other commenters do too. Seriously a miracle lol

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

I only accept well-behaved kiddos into my realm

@JaggedStoneOfficial

Жыл бұрын

@@CopperScott Hopefully I can be counted amongst the Good Kiddos Club someday! :^)

I really appreciate the lack of needless fluff in this video. Entertaining and informative. Good work

I appreciate this style of video! Good job on it, dude.

I have been waiting for a video on this topic for the longest time

this is so fun. great job man. we used to have pokefests back in the day.

Really enjoyed the video! I also liked to hear your commentary, especially regarding Marill

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Marill is the cutest Melee character prove us wrong 😤

This video was recommended to me and I liked it so much that I checked out some of your other content and it was also great! I really encourage you to keep making videos :) always amazing to see new channels making melee content like this! also, and im just assuming based on the captions in your last video, if this is your first time recording lines for a video, you did a really good job with them!

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed and checked out my stuff :)

love that someone made a video like this

Banger choices for the background music throughout whole video 👌

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you could hear it! I gotta work on mixing audio lmao

More of these please

Playing with my brother the other day we were both on last stock and he threw a ball at me. Caught it and threw it back knocking him off the ledge but the ball fell on the stage. Scissor got him on the ledge grab attempt

Oh wow! It's awesome to see this show up in my recommendations. Great idea. Curious about where the Pokemon would rank in the other Smash Bros games.

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps I'm working on it. Perhaps not. You can prove nothing.

Scizor is my favorite Pokémon of all time due to him being in melee when I was a kid and loved it when he got stocks. Happy to see him really high up, solid tier list as well.

The video we were waiting for 2 decades

I've been playing Melee since late 2004. With that, I've gotten somewhat attached to the dozens of Poké Ball Pokémon. Porygon2 isn't who I'd consider the strongest Pokémon in SSBM, but he comes terrifyingly close. Getting hit by him does a tremendous amount of knockback! I'd slot Lugia as the strongest one; getting hit while he's onstage does crazy knockback, and the ensuing Aeroblast move does even more damage, combos around, and inevitably KOs anyone. Incidentally, my favorite Poké Ball Pokémon here is Zapdos. His Thundershock technique won't KO anyone, but taking up to 81% damage isn't so shabby! What's more, Zapdos himself looks nice in 3D with his paper-thin wings. Nice video!

more content like this pls, we need more variety in melee content

Finally, a tierlist that matters.

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

This tires definitely exits

@FlamingZelda3

Жыл бұрын

@@CopperScott a skilled chikorita is as good as any porygon2

This was really fun, although I think you're undervaluing Suicune. Taking up enormous parts of the stage is incredibly good in any context. It's nice to see people making videos about this game that aren't yet another TAS frame-by-frame analysis of some pro players chaingrabbing each other.

@serge2cool

Жыл бұрын

Defend the Dad of Dogs!

I believe lugias move is aeroblast, just thought I’d say since you had every other move named. Great vid!

You, sir, are a legend for going through this for three months straight.

Loved this video!

Man, it was so crazy. I had a strategy guide for Melee as a kid (bought it to figure out how to unlock all the characters and stages and stuff, etc.) and they had a Pokemon list and ditto was included. I must've played the game for hundreds of hours or something and never encountered Ditto once, and as a kid I always fuckin' wondered about that. Not making it into the game but making it into a fucking strategy guide item list is pretty hilarious.

This video needed to exist! Of course we played a lot with the High ratio items and only poke balls!

Gave you a like for the outro, that was surprisingly hilarious.

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Thank you it came from my brain

I was checking your channel a few days ago, and you just uploaded. Really nice video, i can tell you put a lot of effort into it

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Dont know why you dont have that many subscribers. Love your videos.

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Thanks. If I had to put a number to it, I think I deserve ten billion subscribers

Wake up lads Copperhead uploaded

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

So the morning upload worked, I see

Great video!

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Grazie amica

As someone who regularly play with items and advanced tech on a moderately high level I'd definately rank scizor at least top 5 as I'm pretty sure it does follow the opponent and kills more often than not if it hits. Also I'd put venasaur at top 3 that thing is a menace as it does also hit on platforms above it granting instant stage controll for the owner. That being said, amazing video and topic, very well put together. I also loved the examples you showed while talking about certain scenarios. Thanks for making this!

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Ooh, interesting takes. A lot of the rankings were so close that it was hard to place them. Glad you enjoyed!

Ah, fresh Copperhead content is always a treat

back in the day my friends and i would occasionally play with items on just to spice things up and it was always a good time. i remember a lot of Bellossom and Scizor

This was fun!

i hope to see a future video like this for ultimate

finaly, a video on casual melee

Aaa nostalgic I love the Pokémons in Melee. Now either my memory don´t serve me well or there is a difficulty diffrence between regions becuse I remember Moltres sure dose a lot of damage but I am sure I have been above it but not knocked out that often, mostly hit up and to either direction still able to recover. Same with a lot of things here, it seemed like your game it is easier to get knocked away. Porygon 2 I remember fearly easy to recover from and not that strong as you showed it here. So now I am curious. I have to boot up my old console and give it a go.

Shadows of Valentina ost is sick, keep adding it in ur vids

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

The mother walks with me

This is what I needed in my life

dude Happy Flag Day to you too

6:54 It's so funny seeing the Fly Guys get smacked in mass and fly into the screen lol

1:43 really glad you mentioned this, bonus mode needs more love and attention

@FlamingZelda3

Жыл бұрын

I've played coin battle many a time and didn't even remember bonus mode was a thing.

WOW what a great video! I can't believe I've never seen your channel before

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Welcome to the Coppertrain my boy

I didn't know I needed this in my life. Now do one for Smash Bros 64!

Banger and correct though I'd place lugia over most the other legendaries

this was great please do the other games poke ball pokemon ranked

Thanks for the video

This was fun, you could do one for each game

Now we need to get a tier list for those crystal trophies!

This is the most helpful melee video I have ever watched

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Now you can win tournaments!

Nice vid, guess I gotta go play with items now

Something i love about pokemon specifically as an item is stage control. Even if it wont hit, it will change where your opponent can go and you call them out for it. Like how reflectors arent used loads, partly because the opponent uses less projectiles to avoid them but that weakens their character overall. Its just something i find interesting

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. This is why it's actually kind of tough to rank Pokémon, since they all affect stage control in different ways that aren't so easy to see.

Now this, this, is the random KZread video I need to watch today. Thanks in advance.

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

I hope I delivered

@dawnhero6439

Жыл бұрын

@@CopperScott It was great. Hard work!

My favorite Pokémon is Porygon-Z, so this makes me so happy!!

I haven't thrown a melee pokeball in a decade, but I still knew what was in the final slot by process of elimination. Will melees grip eternally hold its grasp over me?

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Yes it will

Love this!

Cool video

Great vid, as a casual fan, I only have one complaint: missed opportunity to say it's "Porygon-too-late"

I think Scizor is the best. If you're playing on a tournament legal stage I could see Porygon 2 being the best, but Scizor is fast, unpredictable, and has great kill potential. He has more kill potential than the legendaries, and is more difficult to avoid. Maybe I'm just too used to playing on Temple tho.

Cool list

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Cool comment

Damn, now i want to see this with every smash game

Great video, but I have some notes on your tierlist: - You mention that knowing how to di makes some pokemon better or worse (weezing). I think this tiertlist is decided for the casual audience? A 'competitive' pokemon tier list (meaning, people who actually know how to di and such) could be different. - Character usage in casual is probably more diverse than competitive, which probably means that there are less spacies and more floaties (a lot of kirby for example). This changes some of the power of the pokemon since the combo potential is less. - Also I think this list is based on 1v1? Playing with 4 people can also affect the power of certain pokemon. - I assume that in your testing you had a bias for playing on certain stages. I see the legal stages a lot, and not many 'big stages' (fourside, hyrule). Pokemon that follow the opponent will be stronger in bigger stages I think. - As mentioned by other commenters, I think you underestimate the power of NEEDING to dodge a pokemon, otherwise you would get hit by the opponent.Taklng optionsaway is strong. - also where are pichu, Pikachu, jigglypuff and mewtwo ;)

I appreciate it being straight to the point. Very rare nowadays.

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Years of getting points off of essays due to not reaching the word count led to this

Cool vid

This is the answer we always needed

Melee Pokémon were the most chaotic but the most fun. I especially miss the legendary dogs and Unown.

My dude made a fantastic video and then dipped

would love to pokemon rankings for the other smashes

I wanted to leave a comment to let you know that I truly enjoyed this video. Thank you.

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

quality vid brother

Personally I think you down play the easy to avoid Pokémon. Those Pokémon essentially cut off a portion of the stage for the opponent which can be useful for A. Getting more pokemon. B. Charge Specials like Samus' Charge Blast or C. Stall.

I can't even remember the last time I used an item in a round of smash bros. My friends and I always play with tournament rules so it's been a while.

Luigi’s kick at the end was the best

Im getting nostalgia from the legendary Pokémon event match watching this. And of course I remember Wobbufett in that mode more than the legendaries.

This takes me back to gen 2 pokemon.

This was such a fun vid! I think this is the first time I’ve ever heard an adult use the word ginormous

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

I'm baby

Commenting to give your views a bigger boost. Good luck

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the internet points 😎

This vids gonna do well

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Your faith is appreciated

youtube algorithm has blessed me yet again

Miss you Scott!!

Ahh pokemon in smash, one of my favourite and only items I’ll use for a fun items match😂

Good video

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

The Fire Emblem music alone gets a sub from me my man

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

SoV is amazing

This was refreshing

Hey just wanted to point out something you missed. AFTER Porygon 2's Tackle, if you're within the radius of the dimension door that it leaves through, it will take you into the alternate dimension and you will immediately die. It's extremely rare that this will ever happen due to the person you're fighting being on the opposite side of the map, but I've been in 4-player matches where a 3rd player knocked a 4th player into the Porygon 2's dimension door, which is how I know this. Otherwise, great video. PS: it may take a few attempts to replicate as you'll need to avoid Porygon 2's hitbox while attempting to execute this.

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

My friend did that it was awesome he goes to another school though

Great video, am I the only one noticing you sound alarmingly similar to competitive pokemon youtuber BKC? I go to bed to that guy's vids all the time and when this autoplayed I thought it was him talking about melee

@CopperScott

Жыл бұрын

Haha, we do kind of sound similar

Porygon2 also has a neato despawn animation so bonus points for that.

My boy comes out on top. Praise be to Porygon2