Which is the BETTER Endgame? Apex Zinogre vs Risen CG Valstrax | MH Sunbreak
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We got the two strongest end game monsters of Rise and Sunbreak in a fight to see who is the TRUE end game KING!
Note:
- Both have equal HP
- All Monsters have lowered HP (keep fight length reasonable).
- All other stats are all based on default values provided by Capcom
- We also take no responsibility for any unusual A.I behaviour, as these are variables we cannot adjust.
- These fights are not to be taken seriously and are not based on Monster Hunter Lore, I simply make them for people to watch and enjoy.
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All credit goes to Capcom for the following:
Apex Monster Monster Hunter Rise theme ver.
Crimson Glow Valstrax Monster Hunter Rise theme ver.
Sunbreak Quest Victory Monster Hunter Rise ver.
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@aquaticminh56
Жыл бұрын
First time I see Apex Zinogre fight and I really happy to see that in action, thank you so much.👏👏👏
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Aquatic Minh your welcome, apex zin is no slack in these fights giving us a great showdown between two of the strongest fighters
@sakuranohana1014
Жыл бұрын
Please do MR Apex Zinogre vs Scorn Magna.
Imagine a new player never played a MH game before, decided to get watch a video about the series and he saw this...
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
💀
@WhatNow505
Жыл бұрын
Imagine getting to worked up over a modded fight...🤷🏻♂️
@diothevampire3250
Жыл бұрын
@@WhatNow505 i dont think he was getting worked up over this but then again we cant really tell tones over text so who knows
@Kingsupreme-km1dl
Жыл бұрын
@@WhatNow505 imagine hating for no reason 💀
@TheGreatCragWyvern
9 ай бұрын
@eggsbenedictcucumberpatchsorry, uh, red rat
Apex Zinogre did surprisingly well and he doesn't even have a MR version! I hope he gets added because out of all the apexes I think he's actually better in some ways compared to his deviant and is a fun fight! GG Crimson glow!
@Amatsu_storm_approach
Жыл бұрын
In fact,They nerfed valstrax stats,including health ,to make the figth longer
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Ishvalda Productions we don't know master rank apex zins HP yet and guessing by the others apexs it could be that apex zin that got the nerfs
@Amatsu_storm_approach
Жыл бұрын
@@MonsterSlayerSquad The master rank Monsters inflicts a massive damage un the 1 VS 1 with other Monsters,also,risen CG val has 70K of hp
@Amatsu_storm_approach
Жыл бұрын
@@MonsterSlayerSquad Still,liked the video
This fight here perfectly shows how each state between Apex and Risen has their advantages and disadvantages. Risen Monsters need to take a bit of Damage to enter their risen form, while Apex Monsters are always Apex. Tho, the Risen Monsters are far more Aggresive in terms of overwhelming power. Apex Monsters also seem to re-enter Rage state very quickly, like Apex Zinogre in this fight, while it takes Risen Monsters a good while to re-enter it. Only drawback to Apex Monsters in a Monster vs Monster combat is, that they enrage other Monsters when they enrage. A threeway fight between Afflicted, Risen and Apex would be great just to see how well they would do against each other and see their differences in combat.
Looking at these fights from a bird's-eye view makes me realize just how fast and chaotic they are. It seems like it would be a miracle that some of us are able to solo these monsters.
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Roaring Thundah couldn't agree more, the sheer strength and destruction they are capable off, honestly could take on an army of hunters 😅
10:00 and 10:16 are so cool. Apex Zinogre did really well with a HR moveset.
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@cubeblast that was a cinematic moment there; apex really asserting dominance there
@ruiribeiro8010
Жыл бұрын
HR? Dat shit worse than all iterations of zinogre ever invented including G rank. Hell no.
@lilithofthevoid4922
Жыл бұрын
Technically it's the MR moveset as well, since all the MR Apexes are just the HR ones ported over with extra health and damage
Ok,three things: 1-Awesome fight 2-The damage gap between them was massive! 3-That ending was disrespectful asf
Imagine a Apex Thunderlord stygian zinogre, the dracophage would be great dracophage (i know it's only in MH stories) to make it "thunderlord" since thunderlord zinogre uses great thunderbugs created from yamatsukami instead of regular thunderbugs, then frenzy virus from gore for the apex.
11:44 my boi zin casually doing some beautiful combos right there
This was the most EPIC fight ive seen since espinas vs astalos My congrats to Valstrax!
Smoooooth dodge 6:20 this is pikachu vs a legendary type dragon pokemon
I would LOVE a fighting game style monster hunter just like this!!!
Seeing an apex makes me want to see the other monsters that have a Deviant species to appear in Rise
THIS IS SUCH A HYPE FIGHT
I think we all kinda knew Apex Zinogre wasn't winning this but man did it put up a damn good fight, even knocking out the Risen state WAAAAAY easier than I thought it would. It may have lost but it definitely wasn't embarrassed. Especially since Risen CG is a CHEATER as 15:22 shows. btw I'm really glad that after the 3rd Risen transformation you let the Apex theme play a while longer, it just made Zinogre's short rampage on Valstrax feel even more satisfying. Sometimes it's best to just let the theme music rock instead of switching it every enrage.
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Im the Catman I agreed Risen CG Valstrax is pretty busted right now compared to most other monsters, so I can see why he's an obvious favourite in these fights. Though, I don't think it will be as straight forward once master rank apex zinogre is released. As for the music, I am not there yet, but I am trying to put a little more effort into making the music matchup with the action on screen. Hopefully it will get better in time.
Great fight next Scorned Magnamalo vs Apex Zinogre plz
@echidnawitchofgreed92
Жыл бұрын
I've been requesting this for so longg
ここまで圧倒的な差ができるとは…やはり傀異克服は凄まじい。
When I watch these, I usually go with the one that has the superior area denial as my favourite. A principle that held true despite AZ's ferocity, speed and Thunder Blight. Although the last one was a bit underwhelming in this fight. Still curious how much higher its HP would be in the actual Master Rank fight, and if it would be enough.
Well, this is a lesson on how faster and combo makers make for better fights in a quick paced game
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Cyko Gamer couldn't agree more, both have some crazy combos and great counters to the wire bugs
Im very surprised how far apex zin got to. Valstrax pretty much feels made for this types of monster fights. Long reach, high damage, and extra explotions and lasers everywhere, and when hit, he barely flinches. Despite of all of this, apex Zinogre may just be his match.
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Cosmic Man I agree with you on that, these two are very evenly matched and it will probabley be that way once master rank apex zinogre is released.
@a1marine105
Жыл бұрын
@@MonsterSlayerSquad you know a monster is strong when even rajang doesn't sound like much of a threat
@electro_lux2232
Жыл бұрын
@@a1marine105 compared to certain monsters, rajang is a lil bitch. I don't want to be that guy, but to me there are other elder level more than capable to stand up against those power houses (like flaming espinas or raging brachy)
@a1marine105
Жыл бұрын
@@electro_lux2232 I can see a rajang take on espinas but raging brach os far more of a threat than both combined
Yes!!! Very nice fight
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
glad you liked it
nice video
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
This Battle so Very Legendary....!!!★
Apex Zino really did it’s best against a RISEN monster, it knocked Crimson out of the air a couple of times and even confidently strutted up to it at one point! 😂 MR Zino might stand a chance but wow Risen Crimson is powerful 😅 Excellent work as always
@echidnawitchofgreed92
Жыл бұрын
The zino here is a HR tho
Honestly, this is expected. Since Valstax has the same advantage as Bazelgeuse. But props for my boi for giving his all.
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Stygian Dragon great guess but apex zin gave one hell of a fight
@stygiandragon3865
Жыл бұрын
@@MonsterSlayerSquad And this is from a monster the has no G-rank moves(?), and the boi just whooped 80% AND broken pretty much every parts on Valstrax.
Awesome fight risen vs apex👍
ヌシジンオウガは素早くて攻撃頻度もかなり多いし、何回もアルティメットバルファルクの怪異化を解いたり強さを見せていたが 流石にアルティメットバルファルクの広範囲かつ高すぎる攻撃力の前には敵わなかったな 必殺彗星アタックとかヌシジンオウガからすれば何されたかわかってなさそうw
It feels like in this fight, somehow the Valstrax was trying to use its wings as shields against the attacks the Zinogre sent out. Edit: I just now noticed, but in some clips it looks like the Valstrax is also trying to crush the Zinogre or get above it.
8:24 みんな大好き彗星
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
私の好きな攻撃の一つ
Jesus when Valstrax gets charged, Zinogre suddenly can’t keep up… Risen glow Valstrax is truly the stun lock god That aside, this next part is me calculating the winners DPS! The fight started at 0:35 and ended 16:52. Take the 35 initial seconds from the time, you get 16:17. Convert 16 minutes into seconds, and you get 960 seconds. Add the 17 seconds leftover for 977 seconds. Now we divide apex zinogre’s health by the time it took for valstrax to kill him. In other words, 34310 / 977 seconds. All that math means valstrax’s constant DPS was 35.1177072671 Your welcome.
Chadstrax: IS THERE NO ONE ELSE!?
まだマスターランクに出ていないのにダメージレースには負けたけど普通に傀異克服バルファルクと殴りあえてたヌシジンオウガすげぇ
@user-super-moth
Жыл бұрын
ヌシディアと並んで危険度古龍超えしてるだけはある
@user-tr9lq6bh3c
5 ай бұрын
でもその後古龍達にボコられる
The absolute whooping at 9:58 was brutal
弱いけど素早いモンスターを強いモンスターと同じ体力まで引き上げて戦わせてみてほしい
Ib4 title update 5 gives apex Zinogre an MR move set based on Exotic Zinogre in Frontier
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Goji I hope they do to at least apex zino and apex diablos, those two were my faviourite of the apex. I never heard of exotic Zinogre, but it sounds dope.
Even with the ability to stagger val with every hit ziny still lost valstrax is truly incredible.
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Spartan Valstrax is insane as it is, and it's risen variant just takes things to another level.
The bugs in the walls are chillin
What is this game called because that looks awesome 🤩
8:18 Risen, Risen in my mind
A-Zinogre may win this with MR stats(he did topple his enemy more times but simply wasn't doing enough damage to win). Risen CG Vals def had the upper hand for most of his attacks have AoE, plus he is a combo spamming monstie with quite the long range for most of his attacks.
@Amatsu_storm_approach
Жыл бұрын
They actually nerfed risen val stats to make a fair match
@kittentacticalwarfare1140
Жыл бұрын
@@Amatsu_storm_approach rip thunder doggo then
Consider these tables turned, this fight definitely feels like a payback match considering the results of the first match they faced off in some months back. Apex Zinogre’s constant aggression still does him justice vs MR-level monsters, that much is certain; Seems to be a potent trait that these Risen Elder Dragons are picking up from Apex monsters, much to Risen Crimson Glow Valstrax’s benefit especially.
@echidnawitchofgreed92
Жыл бұрын
If apex zino ever had a MR ver, I want to see it duke it out with risen c val
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@•Xulxi• I'm quite liking the rivalry between these two, so I hope to do a rematch once more when Apex Zinogre get's it's master rank stats. I aggree with you though, Apex Zinogres aggression really does share similarities with Risen elders.
if apex monsters are added to MR I really hope capcom gives them some proper equipment
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Andrey Belyshev unfortunately i don't think they will as they are already available in MR anomaly investigations and no apex armor in sight
One day we will be able to hunt both of them at anomaly level 300 😬
At this moment Zinogre fr said screw your Risen state 9:58
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Godzilla 214 I love how dramatic Valstrax is, when it drops to the ground.
What mods is use?
kinda want to see what an apex Stygian Zinogre/Dragonlord Stygian Zinogre would be like lol.
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Manny MS I miss stygian zinogre, easily my favourite version of zinogre tbh. I would love to see it go up against another dragon element user like valstrax.
Original Crimson Glow Valstrax Vs Apex Zinogre anyone? kzread.info/dash/bejne/qmSFx6WJnbi_fco.html
流星群ダイブ言う最高の見せ場にCM…
Risen Valatrax: “Bring me Allmother Nowar and Seething Bazelgeuse”
@airoc8270
Жыл бұрын
Risen valstrax destroy seething bazel so hard
@meremsolomon4744
Жыл бұрын
I'm more inclined to believe that Narwa the Allmother would prevail against Risen CG Valstrax. Two reasons. First, Risen CG Valstrax is weak to Thunder element, and nearly all of Narwa's attacks are capable of inflicting Thunderblight, so expect some knock downs from Thunderblight build up on Valstrax. Second, based on her fight against Risen Teo, Narwa posses two moves that have guaranteed knock down effect to smaller monsters, which are the paw slam & tail slam attacks which she likes to spam in her last phase. So yeah, expect a lot of knock downs to Vasltrax when that fight happen.
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Alatreon honestly those are two great ideas for a fight and i'm 100% sure will give risen valstrax a proper challenge
Would *regular* Crimson Glow Valstrax be the endgame monster from base-game Rise?
@themanwiththehatren7420
Жыл бұрын
techically, it wouldn't even be normal CG Valstrax. In MR, you fight one to gain access to MR tank 70-99. It would be Scorned magnamalo that would be the endgame, but with the title updates, they introduced the Risen monsters, which are now our endgame... Holy Fatalis this sounds so nerdy-
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@LEGOMaster25 normal CG valstrax is an end game boss in base rise, but I always felt the apex were akin to arch-tempered, which were the end game of base world.
Just imagine if he had MR version... He would win this, I'm sure about that
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Tigrex Hunter thats why i kept the HP same for both monsters; may do a rematch once master rank apex zin is released
@cantaro5958
Жыл бұрын
Considering the hp difference at the end of the fight, i would say it can go either way tbh
@antwanmuura7091
Жыл бұрын
@@MonsterSlayerSquad could you also do apex diablos and Rathalos when they become MR
Epic We all knew Risen Glow Val would win tho lol Off brand Thunderlord stood no chance
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Assassin true the outcome was expected, but I think it makes sense considering Apex Zinogre hasn't recieved it's master rank stats yet.
@Assassin-ix5iv
Жыл бұрын
@@MonsterSlayerSquad i think it did Apexes can appear in anomaly investigations from what ive heard
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
only apex diablos and zinogre hasn't received master rank versions yet
Risen Valstrax: Is there none in my size class who can challenge me? Seething Bazelgeuse: Bet.
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@GunlessSnake Seething honestly has the stats and firepower to give Risen CG valstrax a good go. I'm sure it would be really close.
Boy if it was Stygian was in this battle the odds would've been different for valstrax.
@echidnawitchofgreed92
Жыл бұрын
Imagine MR dragonlord stygian zinogre
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@MICHAEL CRUTCHER I was just talking to another commentor about stygian zinogre and how awesome it would be watching it and CG valstrax face off. There would just be so much dragon element every where.
Ok like, we all knew that risen cv was going to win but, apex zinogre got really close, good for him
Hydrogen bomb vs Coughing baby
Apex zinogre vs zinogre vs black zinogre
If dragonblight could be applied to monsters, what effect would you want it to have?
@nevergonnagiveup5128
Жыл бұрын
Knocking the monsters out of their element-state, for example with Zinogre or Lunagaron, or forbidding the use of elemental attacks during the duration of the dragonblight. A Rathalos wouldn‘t be able to shoot fireballs when afflicted with it and EDs would get knocked out of their elemental form, like the Elderseal in MH World.
@cantaro5958
Жыл бұрын
@@nevergonnagiveup5128 That would make Valstrax extremely op on these fights
@thadudelydude3707
Жыл бұрын
Dragonblight seals of elemental attacks on a hunter, so I guess it would do the same to monsters that can be blighted
@starryskyhighway9628
Жыл бұрын
Elemental monster cannot inflict blight to other monster and deal slightly less dmg
@cantaro5958
Жыл бұрын
@@starryskyhighway9628 on rise and sunbreak they can, but dragon element monsters cannot
9:14 ヌシ「見えているぞ」 バルク「なに!?」
I forgot apex monsters existed.
Thunderlord moveset
I know this was going to happen at some point in time.
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Thein Moe two top tier monsters going head to head is a must on my channel and I have so many planned
Zinogre did really put a good fight
Can you please do more apex fights
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Rohan Gardiner I have done some, but they haven't been released yet. I will in due time.
@rohangardiner
Жыл бұрын
@@MonsterSlayerSquad ok thanks
Risen Crimson Glow Valstrax vs Afflicted Seething Bazelgeuse.
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@XxUriel 316xX I think normal Seething is a fair matchup from looking at their stats, Afflicted Seething has over 30K more HP than Risen Crimson Glow Valstrax; which I think is pretty unfair.
@xxuriel316xx2
Жыл бұрын
@@MonsterSlayerSquad Really I didn't know Seething Bazelgeuse had that much health.
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@@xxuriel316xx2 Normal Seething Bazelgeuse is fine. However, afflicted monsters in general have bloated HP, with Seething Bazel having amongst the highest in the game.
@xxuriel316xx2
Жыл бұрын
@@MonsterSlayerSquadok makes sense I just thought Risen CG Valstrax has A lot of health.
You sent Apex Zinogre into a suicidal mission? Not really effective against Risen Crimson Glow Valstrax to be honest.
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Bryan Cameron-Hutchings this was sort of a rematch a lot of people were asking for since high rank. But, yeah it is a mismatch for now until Apex zino returns in master rank, which should be in the next TU.
I'm impressed that so far, valstrax is the only one who hasn't lost a fight. the guy beat shagaru, rajang, chaotic
@alatreon5253
Жыл бұрын
Allmother Nowar: “U never beat me”
@jefersongabriellima6897
Жыл бұрын
@@alatreon5253 valstrax: yet!
@meremsolomon4744
Жыл бұрын
@@jefersongabriellima6897 I'm believe that Narwa the Allmother would most likely prevail against Risen CG Valstrax. Two reasons. First, Risen CG Valstrax is weak to Thunder element, and nearly all of Narwa's attacks are capable of inflicting Thunderblight, so expect some knock downs from Thunderblight build up on Valstrax. Second, based on her fight against Risen Teo, Narwa posses two moves that have guaranteed knock down effect to smaller monsters, which are the paw slam & tail slam attacks which she likes to spam in her last phase. So yeah, expect a lot of knock downs to Valstrax when that fight happen.
@magnabueno5360
Жыл бұрын
@@meremsolomon4744also apparently Narwa hardly flinches.
@echidnawitchofgreed92
Жыл бұрын
@@rexchen8891 flaming espinas lost to silver rath in the last vid
Goku vs frieza
ヌシジンオウガの可能性まだまだ十分にあると思います。
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Asktsam それがマスターランクに戻るとき、それは間違いなくより強くなり、より良くなるでしょう
I'd say valstrax he's my favourite monster
Sadly, the difference in damage they can do is simply visible. Zinogre did amazing against the (most likely) strongest in-game Monster right now. This just shows how they wasted Apex Monsters by not giving us any reason to keep fighting them, and not giving them a MR version. I don't think they changed even their damage or HP in the investigations. This was much closer than it have any right to be.
@ken2guy
Жыл бұрын
so wat ur sayiong is we need the Z monsters from frontier and their 1 hit kill gimmicks? >:D
@MegaLovat
Жыл бұрын
@@ken2guy I didn't mean it, sorry if that's what it sounds like. I just want the Apex to receive an upgraded moveset for master rank, and the lack of any armor or weapon give us very few reasons to fight them.
Like thunderlord Zinogre
Nocturnal Nonsense
Are there Apex monsters in MR ?
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@W0nder Lord02 yup, they appear in Master Rank anomaly investigations
@w0nderlord02
Жыл бұрын
@@MonsterSlayerSquad but not as a single monster fight right ?
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@@w0nderlord02 Yeah, they will only appear as secondary monsters.
@w0nderlord02
Жыл бұрын
@@MonsterSlayerSquad well that sucks
For a HR monster, he did pretty well. Of course, once Valstrax gets into his risen state, the fight was totally one sided
@echidnawitchofgreed92
Жыл бұрын
Nah, he knocked valstrax in the air and cancelled it's risen state
他の怪異古龍に比べて威力がやや低めなんだよな。 怪異テオなら難なく早くジンオウガに倒してる。
ヌシオウガの敗因は攻撃後の隙が多すぎることやね いや一々カッコつけてないで動けよ!って思いながら見てたww
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
傀異克服 バルファルクは間違いなくそれを利用した
I'm not 100% sure, but it looks like nobody can beat Rise Valstrax.
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@Прозоров Анатолий. I think it's a little too early to judge from just one fight against a scaled up High Rank opponent.
@user-ix1qx4gz3h
Жыл бұрын
@@MonsterSlayerSquad I'm judging Valstrax fights in general. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't remember him ever losing.
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
@@user-ix1qx4gz3h Valstrax did lose back in high rank: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qmSFx6WJnbi_fco.html
@user-ix1qx4gz3h
Жыл бұрын
@@MonsterSlayerSquad Hmm thanks, I missed that. Okay, anyway, Rise Valstrax seems to be the strongest monster right now. Let's see how he will cope further.
Valstrax undefeated!!!!
@MonsterSlayerSquad
Жыл бұрын
yup, his built quite the reputation; but I'm sure there are some bigger challengers still waiting to face him
@alatreon5253
Жыл бұрын
Seething Bazelgeuse: “What did u said???”
@thedrunkenqrow
Жыл бұрын
@@rexchen8891 tbf apexes are quite the beasts
@thedrunkenqrow
Жыл бұрын
@@rexchen8891 i agree gamer
F zinogre