Snorkel on the P512 needs a fix

And this is why weighted average is a thing. When given the choice, I would pick the P16 almost every time, mainly for its mud performance. But in the competition, with everything weighted evenly, it appears to suck. It is clearly the slowest, but how did it tie for 1st in the A/T Race? *Practical* speed. Nothing slows it down. That's what I like about it. Nice work, though, BabooWik.

@ImolaM5

Жыл бұрын

Practical speed, good way to put it

Imagine having AWD and not winning

@macncheeze8941

3 жыл бұрын

Hey it shines in other places 😭

@itzmrman3574

3 жыл бұрын

@@macncheeze8941 yea like it can actually get up a hill without winching

@macncheeze8941

3 жыл бұрын

@@itzmrman3574 it's a decent crane truck...

@hivewasp

3 жыл бұрын

depends how you see winning; this is a test where all conditions have equal value; deep water can probably be avoided most of the time; I don't remember ever needing to cross a river because I had no other option - on the other hand; ice climbing ... it's rather tough on the ice maps without chains; now if you'd apply a percentage of actual gameplay to each surface and modify the scores by those percentages; you might see a different winner come out... and it would be slightly more realistic for every day usage of the truck.

@zanderraylan8518

2 жыл бұрын

instablaster...

If the p16 had awd imagine how much more of a fucking tank it would be

@andyrbpandy2893

3 жыл бұрын

There's a few P16 mods on console and p12-p510 also

@VAMPIR2015

2 жыл бұрын

Или хотя бы двигло помощнее. Очень не хватает ему мощности зачастую.

For me, the dually ohd 1 settup is better that the single mud tire settup

@tumate45

3 жыл бұрын

Tried it out today and to my suprise the P12 didnt dig itself in the mud, it was incredible

@richardchiomba1947

Жыл бұрын

OHD 1 does better indeed

Anybody else think he should take the winning truck from all his truck battles and do like a "top snowrunner truck" sort of thing?

@youknowthefunnythingis6869

3 жыл бұрын

Now that you mention it, yes, yes he should

@codyg9979

3 жыл бұрын

Everytime I try to decide on a truck I come here and do some research. With everything from road to ice driving its nice to know how other trucks compare. It's nice to have a channel that puts this much effort in. One of the only channels I look forward to new videos from

@Dirkietje8

3 жыл бұрын

@BabooWik seriously consider this as a video idea, pls thank you very much. I also love your videos for how extensive they are!

i use my p12 more than any other truck in my fleet. it was also my recovery truck until the mastodon came out. the capacity to carry medium logs on frame while towing a medium logs trailer is so practical

@collinkaufman2316

23 күн бұрын

Thats where it shines, with medium logs

From reviews I've seen the P512 being the best allrounder, but I'ts not in my fleet as it lacks the P12 too. I only have experience with the P16 and it's a beast even without AWD. A nice truck for carrying heavy loads offroad and through mud. Not a very good alrounder and unfortunatly lacking chained tyres, but a beast for heavy stuff!

When customizing you should equip the bumper with the highest ground clearance

@jafyfaen

3 жыл бұрын

No you looser balance

@bread-gz3rl

3 жыл бұрын

Pfft wtf does balance have to do with ground clearance in a comparison for the *best* truck

@ParimalTube

2 жыл бұрын

@@bread-gz3rl , for example, is the azov 10 wheel drive that good, it's good but suffers due low gc

@ParimalTube

2 жыл бұрын

The p512 is much better with a different bumper due to no ladders, same with Kolob euro style , ladders used to get caught

Thorough. enjoyable, and varied. Nice.

Ay great editing on this. Props and a like

I fitted the 512 with a cargo bed, small crane and a freeway transmission as a fast delivery truck for easy terrain. At least better as as Western 49X at that. Otherwise P16 is great for everything except ice :-)

@1973honza

3 жыл бұрын

Or except deep mud or hevy terrain or steep hills or heavy cargo.

This is some good video editing compared to your subscriber count. Keep up the good work, this is much appreciated!

I cant really look down the P16, it's free, has unique high traction tires, slow but delivers in mud. On the other hand I'm harsh on the others because for that much cash I want more performance. P12 isnt bad from the look of it, but as I saw, AWD only helped it with steep roads.

@paavopesusieni259

2 жыл бұрын

p512 has same tires but smaller

@KurNorock

Жыл бұрын

The single rear mud tires aren't the best tires for the P12. It performs much better with dual rear off-road tires.

I’m surprised KZread doesn’t demonetize every video with the p16 horn in it. That thing is too dirty

@mikoajkisiel7896

3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: theres porn i P16 hORN

@zon432

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikoajkisiel7896 ⁷⁷⁶ul

Try by the P512 the HRG Box and go in the H gear after reaching the 2nd gear there u learn a magic word for this Truck "Torque"

I've gotten alot of good use out of the P12. Mainly as a crane/recovery truck

Great video. Good tests. However I will always Favor the P16.

GG, very close game

Honestly I have each one of them serving different purposes. P16: my logging truck P12: P512: My service vehicle for truck repairs

From personal usage the p12 is the most capable of the 3 as the AWD really helps when you get into problems

@TheMcDonaldsMaster2420

3 жыл бұрын

Do the others not have an awd option?

@CumminsShakesIt

3 жыл бұрын

@ Fin sure the P12 has AWD but it is still MASSIVELY underpowered

@itzmrman3574

3 жыл бұрын

@@CumminsShakesIt so is the p16. It cant even go up a hill with a load

@fin57

3 жыл бұрын

@@CumminsShakesIt ye but it's the best of the 3 from my personal use. There all terrible and I dont use them

@cbuck7571

3 жыл бұрын

@@fin57 I love the p16 it is extremely good

I use my 512 mostly like a rescue/support truck, its perfect for that (for me)

All of them are good 👍

I think p12 is the best it has the most fuel and the most tires and best of all awd P16 horn has the best horn

P512 in actual use has no range with its high fuel consumption and small fuel tank, despite being the best performer. Lack of addons and generally being unstable and rwd only makes it less useful than the others. Its the only one of the three that feels like it has no real purpose beyond being a speedy heavy, and is generally only vaguely useful in Michigan or other maps with little mud. It makes an okay heavy hauler in a pinch. P16 is a consistent heavy hauler and super stable, if a bit slow. Its tires have the highest mud stat in the game, and it has good range even when you're just flooring it while delivering long logs. It may be RWD only, and completely lack addons, but its ability to pull the heaviest loads places it above the P512. The P12 isnt a heavy truck like the other two, and is more of an explorer/recovery truck. Its a bit unstable with single tires, and a bit underpowered even with the top engine, but its the only one of the three with AWD and capable of using a maintenance frame addon AND pulling a maintenance trailer, on top of having a very large fuel tank, its probably the most useful of the three even if its not all that capable of hauling heavy loads.

@ImolaM5

Жыл бұрын

I agree the P12 is the most useful objectively and its highest handicap is its wheelbase, its really easy to get it high centered

@Aiden-tt2fm

Жыл бұрын

The apc tire’s actually have a better mud grip value

Pacific p12 is the only pacific truck has chained tires and only vehicle that can cross frozen and slippery roads in Alaska, Kola Permiscula and Amur

3:55 oh great now we have problems like the royal snorkel again

@ussindianapolis9137

3 жыл бұрын

One snorkel was completely underwater. Wdym problem?

@bread-gz3rl

3 жыл бұрын

@@ussindianapolis9137 i was talking about the 512

5:34 I love how the P16 is bouncing like a dolphin

Tbh i like the p512 the most cuz it is versatile and a pretty good offroader

@itzmrman3574

3 жыл бұрын

Yea its ok, not the best

P512 would be a beast with AWD. Also, when could we see some Off Road trucks battles?

@penttitukki2102

3 жыл бұрын

p16 too

@jameshaynes9631

3 жыл бұрын

@@penttitukki2102 the p16 awd wouldn't make a difference its to heavy

@penttitukki2102

3 жыл бұрын

@@jameshaynes9631 p12 is only about 20kg lighter than p16

@DarthCuda

3 жыл бұрын

@@jameshaynes9631 Tell that to my AWD twinsteer. It is unstoppable.

@ParimalTube

2 жыл бұрын

It would be too good, that's why developers did not add

The P16's honk sounds like the start of a derby race XD

Throw the High Range Gear Box in the P512

With the P16 it actually digs through mud etc WAY better if you don't crank the wheel back and forth like a madman. Just let it track straight and it'll bite eventually.

I used the P512 in Amur, still kicked ass.

you shouldnt wiggle the steering with a rwd, it will only cause the wheels to plow. Best performance is achieved just by keeping them straight for lower resistance

P512 and p16 are amazing except ice but snow is an option p12 however is getting worse by each major update

@huskofdadbod

3 жыл бұрын

@SteelSh0t 317 I feel like the p12 needs an a power to weight ratio

@huskofdadbod

3 жыл бұрын

@SteelSh0t 317 I used to take that truck and the large maintenance frame add on everywhere when the game was first released

Just because you have all the upgrades dosnt mean it's the best or "fully upgraded" for said trucks

Did they buff the P16 since the making of this video?

Still like the p16 it looks so good

Cool video, but not as conclusive as I'd hoped. The P16 has crushed nearly everything I've thrown at it in Michigan. On paper, the P12 is clearly better, but this video shows that it's not as dominant as one might expect. Wish I could see this test again with offroad tires on the P12. It might have won, or at least won more events than it did. As much as I love my P16, I think I'm going to trade it in for the P12 and see how I like that with a set of OHD I tires.

The onw with speed advantage is (almost) always going to win!

P12 for me.

Looked like the p12 was gonna win that last race but you bumped the trailer on the mobile home/office as you turned

For me it's still the P16 :)

That grainy quality

Honestly I don't get the point of Pacific trucks in Snowrunner. At least now they can tow wood but before that? P16 gets stuck everywhere because only RWD. P12 gets stuck in mud because idk. Where i just need to get stuff through heavy terrain I choose Kolob 74760 anytime.

I think the p12 should be the best since it got up the hill the fastest

@Txtzraven

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn’t matter how fast, matters how well the driver gets the job done.

@TheBroughamGamer

2 жыл бұрын

Speed means nothing when the goal is delivering. P16 in my game has always been better then the rest when it comes to that. Getting weight on those back tires makes it an absolute beast

i just love the detroit diesel whine the game has. p16 by far is the best!

P12 is my favourite truck in the game. I use it all the time unless I'm going down small trails

Whats the name of map that you were using?

Why is dnf -3 and not -1

512 is the best lo0oking for sure. But i dont like it in mud or water if it has a trailer loaded.

Yah did the P12 dirty. Give it the good offroad tires the other 2 have. P12 had single tires in this.

the p12 had better suspension so why did it get second?

Pacific p16 can drive though muddy roads without AWD

I disagree with your call on the deep water crossing. The P16 didnt make it out but it went just as deep as the other 2 but sustained 0 engine damage from the water. The "winner" did experiance engine damage as well.

I dont like the p12 because i used it as a logging truck but it's engine is to weak. The tires didnt spin but I pressed full gas. But I love the p16 because it is wide so it is hard for it to fall over. And it's offroad capabilities is great and it has everything I need.

@cedriclasry9151

Жыл бұрын

upgrade the engine and transmission, you can carry two loads of medium logs anywhere no problem

@albertfingernoodle6416

Жыл бұрын

@@cedriclasry9151 i have fully upgraded the transmission and engine but in the hills it doesnt work as well.

This game is so inconsistent when comparing trucks 6x6 looses to 4x6 in a game where its all about mud/snow Sometimes off road tires beat mud tires in mud for reasons understood only by devs

The p12 really needs a snorkel then it will be the best

what is the best truck for transporting logs?😁

@fin57

3 жыл бұрын

Azov 73210/new paystar as they can hold the crane and logging front, I personally have been using the 73210 with no problems

@mathieuedde1465

3 жыл бұрын

@@fin57 the P12 can also have that setup

@fin57

3 жыл бұрын

@@mathieuedde1465 its is a far less capable truck however

@mathieuedde1465

3 жыл бұрын

@@fin57 that’s a bit of a stretch, the P12 does have its advantages over those trucks with its high ground clearance and bigger tires, it’s barely noticeable that it’s slightly less powerful than the both of them as well

@fin57

3 жыл бұрын

@@mathieuedde1465 I started out with the p12 in phase 3 and found myslef in trouble a lot more than in the azov

Yes the p512 is best all rounder but isn’t it a dlc truck?

I like p512

Смешной у тебя ник Бабувик :D

If it only had bigger fuel tank

P16 👍👍👍👍😁

P16 needs AWD To be the beast of best

@ArmpitStudios

3 жыл бұрын

That's not how Pacific built them. But you can get a mod if you really want to rip up the countryside.

@jonchristner7384

2 жыл бұрын

Not really. It’s not very versatile

P12 is best iny opinion

The most annoying thing is the mud, and p16 does well there.

Why does the P12 seem to have no balls at times?

The pacifc looks so cool but isnt that useful in my opinion

I mean the the p512 is a logging truck

@mrsausageroll7344

3 жыл бұрын

And you find it in a lot of water

Why is the P12 given the most points for consuming more fuel? That's completely backward

@cameronpearce4472

3 жыл бұрын

It lasts the longest between fill ups. That’s why

@DecPlays_

3 жыл бұрын

@@cameronpearce4472 the results are displayed poorly. In the table the truck with the highest fuel consumption per minute is awarded the most points under the title fuel efficiency. Just seeing that without anything else makes it look like you're awarded more points for burning more fuel at a higher rate. That's my point. Also I don't think the fuel test represents accurate conditions when you're never sitting still in Snowrunner, you're always on the move and the consumption is variable. My tests have the trucks go from A to B with a % of fuel consumption taken then compared against competition. I know from experience that the P16 has excellent fuel efficiency.

@gasolinediesel972

3 жыл бұрын

Because the truck has the largest fuel tank. Even with the worse fuel economy, it will still last longer on a full tank.

I tried this new Pacific P512 yesterday and like the other 2 once you go into deep mud and water with a few rocks it dies. This whole argument about diff lock and no AWD because it doesn't need is bullshit,all people have to do is to test them in Wisconsin,British Columbia and i don't even talk about Kola or Amur. They can't do it because the back tires spin and the front tires loose power,P12 with AWD can actually try. You can't use trucks like Pacific P16 and P512 in hard maps because the lack of AWD limits them in most bad terrain. Pacific P16 is not good enough Pacific P12 is weak Pacific P512 is more of the same🤦‍♂️ Kenworth 963 has it's problems but even carrying logs destroys all these 3.

'Best' truck: Can't climb ice, worst at crossing rivers, least fuel efficient, and only middle of the range at mud pulling. Are we even playing the same game? Seems like the p512 is best at racing only. Season 7 would love you.

P16 is better with the horn

I don't have patince for these trucks

Pacific p12 always got damaged in crossing rivers

@youcefdzayri

Жыл бұрын

Because lack of the snorkel

We all know p16 is the best logging truck

P16 it is more stable with lower chances of overturning

Dont care p16 still my main

Doesn't matter which one wins these setups. The P16 will always rule.

Why is no one talking about p512

@ParimalTube

2 жыл бұрын

Like, it's excellent and free

Nah bro p16 is always king👑

He was making everything easier for p12, he should turn awd off

@hivewasp

3 жыл бұрын

or turn on AWD for the other two... but they don't have it; which is the whole point; he's comparing truck performance which means each truck in its best setup possible.

@Overlord1706

2 жыл бұрын

P12 still heavily lost though so...

I don't understand why the P12 just feels so off. It's like it doesn't get traction at all. It was struggling in Michigan in areas where the P16 couldn't give two shits.

шляпные тачки конечно

I dunno why you guys are always hyping the p16. I have it max. It's still lame in my opinion. Put AWD in it, then it's a different conversation. Actually all these pacifics are lame. Choose Voron 😂

@deathx0r

3 жыл бұрын

They are all incredibly atrocious in this game. These people that keep using them and claiming they rock (specially the p16 and p12) all refuse objective reality. Sure you may like the things and winch your way to doing stuff with them. It doesn't mean they're good.

@cjeam9199

2 жыл бұрын

The P16 is free and appears early on. It’s stable, excellent through mud, and has quite a bit of power. The P12 disappointed me by being unable to climb some hills. I wish the P16 had the medium log frame back.

@TheBroughamGamer

2 жыл бұрын

@@deathx0r it's to each their own. Some play styles vary and lead to people liking something other the the rest even if it might be objectively worse. Personal experience of my own leads my go too trucks as the p16, 512pf, f 750, and the longhorn. However for more solid roads I go with the ws 4964 and the hx 520. Highway I use 512pf with high box and two cats. No real reason for a few choices but that's just what I like for doing it. I'm more comfortable with them in those tasks then with other trucks.

@TheBroughamGamer

2 жыл бұрын

I have only had to winch my p16 about 1 out of every 20 trips I make with it. Might just be my driving with it idk but which is required more for the 512 if you take it through terrain it is less comfortable with. I route courses through better roads even if it might take longer to minimize chances of something going awry. P16 goes through everything I've sent it though without much question. Biggest problem for it is when there are high bumps that cause the trailer to center. Without the awd it's the only time 9utisde help is usually needed for it

The pacific p12 has got to be the most useless heavy truck on snowrunner

All this trucks are sucks. Especially for logging.

@CeoOfTheBOIS

3 жыл бұрын

P512 is pretty good for logging

@InterceptorKZ

3 жыл бұрын

@@CeoOfTheBOIS Only if you tweak to 4 weel drive. Because without all-wheel drive, this truck is useless.

@CeoOfTheBOIS

3 жыл бұрын

@@InterceptorKZ bruh have you even used the p512?

@InterceptorKZ

3 жыл бұрын

@@CeoOfTheBOIS I tried. Elementary - I could not climb the hill behind the first garage in Wisconsin. And this is without the logs. Why do you need a log-truck without all-wheel drive? But in mod with a four-wheel drive, the truck goes quite well.

@CeoOfTheBOIS

3 жыл бұрын

@@InterceptorKZ so you just got out drove up a hill and then left it? Bruh you need to do more than just drive up a hill. Actually drive a log carrier and crane and go around doing tasks. I actually was able to get the P512 up the hill behind the garage so SUCK IT!!!!