Once AirBnBs went industrial scale and started robbing housing from the locals, they effectively jumped the shark.

@meko98743

Жыл бұрын

Just like Uber.

@ZoraTheberge

Жыл бұрын

@@meko98743 exactly. These apps were sold to us as like “rent out your spare room to interesting tourists on weekends” or “get paid to carpool” and now they’ve ruined whole economies.

@werewolfcountry

Жыл бұрын

And food delivery apps that undercut and dilute the options for small local takeaways.

I dont go on vacation to work/clean and then be billed for the same service. Its ALWAYS hotels for me

@danh5637

Жыл бұрын

Yes but they’re soulless. And most Airbnb get cleaned by the agency these days.

@k.a.2241

Жыл бұрын

@@danh5637 I don't go on vacations for the hotel, so I don't care if the hotel is "soulless". I am too busy right seeing and relaxing, and NOT cleaning someone's home

@k.a.2241

Жыл бұрын

*sight

People don’t usually think about how regulations make hotels cover the weird corner cases that just happen when people are away. The big one is: what do you do when someone dies in your airbnb, or hotel room? Like hotels have regulations and so the hotels are prepared with a policy, and process to follow in order to deal with the situation… meanwhile, with airbnb, the host is largely left to their own devices to figure it out. And if you short-term rent long/wide enough… it’s gonna happen eventually. Which is exactly why hotels are required to prepare plans and policies for it.

@user-vc1io1qt5y

6 ай бұрын

Bros shut up! You're a serious hater. Airbnb are taxed up the ass like a hotel and treated by the city like a hotel

In Canada we have an insane housing crisis, like the cheapest rent you can find will be more than many workers' whole salary. AirBNB is a big contributor to it; I hope AirBNB crashes so hard that all the leeches who planned on becoming millionnaires from it go bankrupt.

@ysucae

Жыл бұрын

yes, yes, please.

As an introvert I've learnt that I really don't want to use Airbnb anymore. Half of the time you end up having the host trying to socialize and waste your time when all you want is some rest and privacy.

I feel like AirBnBs make more sense for large groups. Last year we did a family vacation to Disneyland for about a week and had to house 11 people. Doing that in who knows how many hotel rooms would almost have surely made us crankier and have a hard time relating to each during our downtime where we aren't out and about doing things.

@meko98743

Жыл бұрын

Holiday homes were a thing long before Airbnb and they'll continue being a thing long after Airbnb's gone. If anything, Airbnb have some of the worst holiday homes, at least as far as value for money, safety and security, disrupting the housing market, and just general peace of mind go.

@sammierose1150

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. I feel like, in a way, they’re asking the wrong question. They’re comparing apples to oranges by asking which is better Hotels vs AirBnBs full stop. That’s like asking which is better, renting a car for a day or Uber/Lyft? I don’t know, depends on the person, individually. AirBnBs are cheaper by far, long term (the longer your stay is, or if you have a big group). But if you’re just in a city for a night or a couple days - oh it’s a no brainer, a nice airport hotel with shuttle service in the morning (cause it’s so close to where you’ll be departing from) is perfect! It honestly just truly depends on the situation, the person, and their preferences. 💁🏽‍♀️

@davidpachecogarcia

Жыл бұрын

Airbnbs work for me for large trips where we stay in remote regions like deserts or mountains. There is the inbetween like Sonder in large cities. Which I liked but it’s ridiculously priced.

@annemariesmith5459

10 ай бұрын

I think AirBNB is better for parking and quiet. I don't like hearing slamming doors,elevators etc. They also charge a lot of fees for pets.

Im mexican, this os true, so many people have to move because of foregeins trying to stay here, without paying taxes, and just the prices are going up to the sky. Its very sad, that we can not afford a place to live, food to eat, and things to do because of gentrificación.

@grrrimamonster7894

Жыл бұрын

Do you think there is an ethical way for a foreigner to live in mexico without contributing to the gentrification, or a way to offset their impact? I love Mexico and am considering going long term, but have concerns about this!

@MijoShrek

Жыл бұрын

​@@grrrimamonster7894 for the reasons and motivations of americans going abroad that are gentrifying locals in doing so. And do mental gymnastics that justifies their exploitive business modeling of Air Bnb. Their spending into the local economies doesnt do much for those struggling with the otrosities going on there. My fellow americans had been told we cannot guarantee your safety nor any retrieval. Couple americans who were also residents got kidnapped from their homes. Last coulle years.

I choose Marriott Residence Inns whenever I can because of the kitchen space and separate bedroom/living room spaces. Plus they usually have a great breakfast, outdoor grill for guest-use, and at some locations they used to do a mid-week cocktail hour! Since they're geared towards the traveling professional who may be staying semi-long-term they have more of these types of amenities usually. Downside, their pool is usually outdoors.

@aaronmontgomery2055

Жыл бұрын

I usually stay in these for work. Some are great but some are not as nice

@diadraper1403

Жыл бұрын

100% agree with this. Love Residence Inn. They are also pet friendly.

@ye23.

7 ай бұрын

Its expensive af in nyc tho. Youre almost forced to airbnb

Thanks for providing this perspective. It’s tough because Airbnb used to be great. It was affordable, cool because the hosts really put in effort to truly make the experience great for guests and made it feel like a real B&B. But now it’s so expensive, so much is asked of the guest (clean the entire apartment only to also have a crazy high cleaning fee, WiFi and other amenities are not consistent, etc). It sucks that it’s changed so much.

@Aelffwynn

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, we used to use airbnbs all the time. That was back when families were renting out rooms to help pay their mortgage. A lot of care went into it because they were actual homes! Now, they're basically shitty hotels that you have to clean yourself 🤮

@user-vc1io1qt5y

6 ай бұрын

It's still the same. The guest want hotel service with Walmart prices.

Airbnb's scare me. I know there's probably thousands of really great hosts who don't put cameras in their houses or demand unreasonable things but the amount of horror stories I've heard makes me completely unwilling to ever stay in an airbnb.

When I moved to SF, I did a long stay in an airbnb that was being sublet by a person who was renting the apartment. He sublet several different rooms to different people, like a dormitory. He was renting 3 or 4 such apartments and subletting them to people. He had no other job, was paying effectively no rent, and was still making money. He was basically a landlord, without needing to take on the risk of land ownership, or a mortgage. I wouldn't be surprised if this was somewhat common. I also imagine it must absolutely wreck housing prices.

@QueenSelene88

Жыл бұрын

Sadly, it is. Same issue and worse happening were I live, the locals can't buy houses because the others go and outbid them for a lot (most of the times, the property isn't even worth it, needs lots of repairs), and, worse of all, pay cash (locals can't). #abolishlaw60 #abolishlaw22

I think one major major major thing that is consistently overlooked in this convo is the gap in oversight and regulation. Airbnbs are not subject to scrutiny like hotels, and with the amount of people buying w/e property they can to leverage into an airbnb, I don't think you can actually trust that these properties are maintained properly. Structural problems, health and sanitation problems, fire hazards etc are all things hotels are accountable for and spend a lot of money controlling and the avg Airbnb owner just doesn't care about that and there's no regulatory oversight to make sure things are up to par. That exact gap is literally what made Airbnbs so cheap in the first place, they aren't paying insurance or ensuring properties are up to commercial hotel compliances

With little kids, Airbnb has been a savior. I’m not defending their exploitation of communities, I do feel bad. But damn we can make breakfast and dinner, have a separate room after toddler and big sister go to sleep, and having an actual to eat is amazing. Just to have an hour or 2 in a separate room from the kids is worth it, rather than a studio hotel room.

@YourMajesty143

Жыл бұрын

I can see your side of things, but also who goes on vacation with the intention of cooking and cleaning? Hotels have complimentary breakfast, gyms, and room service. And if you don't want to eat hotel food, there's always Doordash. It never made sense to me to visit a new location and not enjoy the local food scene there. Dining is part of the experience of getting away from home and all the chores that come with that. To each their own, I guess.

@shakenbacon-vm4eu

Жыл бұрын

@@YourMajesty143 forgot to mention: WASHER DRYER. Not sure if you have kids but they are messy. Also we usually we out during lunch, and we try to head in for dinner cuz of kid and baby bedtime. Totally agree with everything you said. But we could really only do that before kids.

@TimothyCHenderson

Жыл бұрын

@@YourMajesty143 Agreed! Food is one of the best parts of a vacation. It can be expensive but if you factor it into your budget in the first place then it's manageable.

@rrdcreates

Жыл бұрын

There are sites where you can rent a time share unit which includes wash/dryer many times. Since they are usually part of a resort or larger business, you can get a pretty nice stay.

@rrdcreates

Жыл бұрын

Don’t buy the timeshare, just rent it lol

Agree... For a short trip always hotel.

I have not stayed in Airbnb for years because of how crazy the prices have gotten. If I'm going to pay a hotel price anyway, I'd rather stay at a hotel that I know will be clean!

We have the same situation here in Spain and people are getting really pissed about it. Sure, travel, have fun, but please book a hotel room.

@annemariesmith5459

10 ай бұрын

When I visit Europe next year, I'm using a travel agency since they find all the best amenities that I desire from the hotels. I would not stay at AirBnB abroad.

There's a very simple solution. Don't rent Airbnb's in residential areas. Only rent vacation homes that have always been rentals (beach houses, mountain cabins, etc.). Also, don't rent from owners who charge exorbitant nightly rates and cleaning fees.

It's insane that they both charge you a cleaning fee, and make you clean/do laundry before you go.

@BioBioLove

Жыл бұрын

But do they do this? Cause I have never heard of this before and we do stay at Airbnbs often. Is that a USA thing?

@bract62

Жыл бұрын

​@@BioBioLove big in the US yes

@ritaagopian4150

Жыл бұрын

And they pay peanuts to actual cleaning staff

@meko98743

Жыл бұрын

@@BioBioLove yep. I know US consumer protection isn't as strong as UK/EU but I can't believe it's legal to charge for a service that not only do you not do, but that you demand the customer does for you instead.

@billh.1940

Жыл бұрын

I never had a cleaning fee in a hotel or motel. It is part of the charge. Maybe extra if I trashed the place.

I recently traveled with my family, they booked a 5 bed/ 3 bath Airbnb for a week at over $2k. I opted for a hotel. Their Airbnb was dirty when they entered and they ended up buying a bunch of cleaning supplies. The trash was still full and surfaces were sticky. The owner then sent a cleaning crew and they dropped off a vacuum for my family to use. Departing instructions had the audacity to demand the house be cleaned and laundry washed or face steep cleaning fees smh

I just don’t like Airbnb. When I’m on vacation, I don’t wanna clean someone else’s house. The whole point of traveling is to escape my daily routine 😆. and the cleaning fees just irks me so much.

Some airbnbs are really cool. I had the opportunity to stay in a treehouse once (chose an RV instead) but for major cities it’s basically the same price so it just makes sense to go with the hotel. Especially for short trips. Then you know what to expect too

@aaronmontgomery2055

Жыл бұрын

I stayed at a cabin in Colorado where half the place was glass. Honestly prefer hotels for cities but airbnb for rural zones

Pleeeeeease make a video about americans in mexico city

If you know someone who works at a hotel, they often have discount programs available for friends and family members

@erdiaz13

Жыл бұрын

My parents want me to work for Marriott again because the discount was so good! And they're retired now so the discount would be handy! 😅 Screw the degree in Chemistry, I'll go back to bartending I guess. 🤣

@YourMajesty143

Жыл бұрын

My sister uses to work full-time, but now works part-time at a hotel's restaurant. She literally only continues to work there, bc of the free food & hotel discounts she gets 😂 Plus she now has all these flight attendant friends who repeatedly stay at the hotel & dine in. My sister is our "hookup" for everything from luxury dining leftovers, hotel discounts, and flight vouchers!

I end up using AirBnBs a lot because of fragrance allergies - I can either bring detergent and wash linens or often have a conversation with the host and discover that they use fragrance-free detergents. I wish hotels in the US had better options for this. It’s also nice to be able to prepare some of my own food. I try to stay in homes where the host is living in the home or has an attached suite.

I've never seen an AirBnb cheaper than a hotel. Unless you go to a neighborhood where you want to get murdered lol

hotels with kitchenettes are a truly wonderful thing

I travel with dogs on road trips. Overnight or short stays (2 nights or less) hotel. Longer stays ; Airbnb with a yard. Some chain hotels are lovely! It sucks that what Airbnb has created but more and more cities have strict restrictions on them or outwardly ban them. Personally I appreciate Airbnb they allow me to do these long road trips and stays with my dogs.

I've only stayed in the airbnb once and it was when I did a work trip for an entire month. I researched a lot and found an amazing place with a great location. I don't even think there was a policy where I had to clean up. I could even stay a little.later since I had a late flight. I chose an airbnb over another short-term stay place because it already came with kitchen items, towels, etc. This particular situation, though, is my one time choice for an airbnb over hotel 😅

Yes! Hotels all the way...I do not go on vacation to clean. Nothing beats going shopping all day and coming back to a beautidully cleaned room. And oh yes, tip the cleaning staff!❤

For people who book airbnbs because they want to be able to cook - youth hostels aren't just for young people & they usually have basic kitchens. I've stayed at some where they had the option to book a private room (it seemed like mostly families with young kids & older couples used this option)

I love a private room Airbnb when I travel. The host keeps the common areas clean throughout my stay. The places almost always have way more character, space and amenities (kitchen, laundry, etc) than a hotel. They're much cheaper, allowing me to stay at my destination for longer. And they're often not taking a rental space off the market, because the host isn't interested in renting out their spare room permanently.

I went to the south of France a few years ago and stayed in an AirBnB. It was sooo much cheaper than a hotel and I got to actually do my laundry and cook meals which saved my broke college student ass a lot of money.

I like saving on certain meals in an Airbnb. But yea, generally when you’re traveling you’re likely going to be mostly eating out anyways. I miss the couch surfing days when that was a thing and a great way to meet people across the world!

We prefer air bnb when traveling. We travel with our larger family it just makes more sense to have more privacy fornour kids and ourselves.

We use Airbnb where ever we stay as we like to be able to cater for our own meals, like to be able to easily wash and dry our own clothes and like the independence and privacy and peace it can afford. I wish there was a more ethical option as I am very aware how it effects places we have been and I am aware of the affordable housing shortage where I live.

Air bnb can be great, you just have to find a host that doesn't tack on insane fees or ask the guest to do an unreasonable amount of tasks upon checkout. I can handle "please put all garbage in the garbage can" or "please put dishes in dishwasher" but im absolutely not going to do the laundry or clean the floors.

Airbnb CAN help locals in the sense that some people might own a small apartment that they don’t use much and rent out or they’ll rent out a room in their home for some extra income. My friends’ family and mine do these, respectively, to supplement our income since the cost of living has become higher in our city. Prioritize local airbnb hosts and try and stay with the family. You can look up the hosts to see if they are corporate airbnb hosts or not.

hotel all the way every day. i'm not paying to clean YOUR house

For short stays like a week-end away hotels seem to be the way to go. But when we go on a longer vacation we often like to have a place with a kitchen space because it means we can have some of our meals there. Having breakfast and one other meal is a budget saver and allows us to not feel bad about going out to a restaurant that has amazing reviews but is not necessarily the cheapest. But last time we did this was in Europe and the tidying before leaving was minimal.

In addition to their terrible impact on the housing market AirBnB also doesn’t care about the safety of their guests. I had to report a host for harassment earlier this year and it was a horrible experience. There was little to no transparency throughout the process and even though they assured me that my identity would be kept secret my host was able to figure out that I was the one that filed the report. It was a stressful process that took months to deal with. Clearly they make the process to opaque and tiresome to exhaust victims and avoid accountability. From now on I’m planning on staying at hotels, it’s both safer me and better for the communities I’m visiting.

I usually end up at Airbnb’s because of the kitchen. I have Crohn’s disease and restaurants are great but often I need to be able to cook as well. Makes it much my easier to travel and not trigger symptoms.

I've been lucky enough to have very good Airbnb experiences, but the price is getting comparable to a hotel for sure. I think my ideal would be to have a mini kitchen in a hotel room or something. Because I do like having a place to cook and eat!

Hotels can be held to a higher level of accountability and have a deeper infrastructure and protocol to handle situations.

i used to love airbnbs back when they were still.. i don't know, niche? it used to be such a nice experience and the homeowners would always add a nice personal touch. now, it's absolute garbage and i only stay in hotels 😅

100% hotel loyalty

For longer stays and when you would prefer a kitchen, extended-stay hotels also exist. I used one on my honeymoon to France and it worked out well. They're usually somewhat close to economic centers because they get used by business travelers during contract work and are sometimes cheaper than a hotel for the same length of stay.

I’ve used Airbnb less and less. It’s only a solution for me when it’s a big group staying at a place for like a week or longer. Plus it’s also our only options in very remote areas. As far as cities go or more dense suburbs you can def find a hotel.

Hotels have a long way to go. But I don’t trust airbnb. I’m not saying everyone’s home should be accessible to people with disabilities, but Airbnb should do a better job with their accessible feature filters. I dare anyone to try to find a place to stay in most major cities that’s accessible on Airbnb. It’s a trash experience, and the company doesn’t care to improve the granularity for people who, for example, use wheelchairs for distance but can walk up a step or 2.

Depends on the Airbnb. Some can really good experience.

Gentrification? like improving neighborhoods and making them safe?

Chain hotels are the better bet since on some level you have standards where you can expect a certain kind of stay. Airbnb you are open to whatever - they let people continue to have guests even if they are under investigation for issues with cameras, stopping in, etc. if a chain has issues, you have a better chance of resolution.

With kids, Airbnb are definitely better having a kitchen and more space to play in and not offending neighbours with the noise

Always hotel. Need to clean and put everything in place in airbnb even though I paid the cleaning fee. Also got various problems like washing machine not working, things broken etc. In hotels I don't have to worry about anything.

I booked a month long trip to Portugal and there was no way I’d find a cheaper hotel for that full month instead of an extended air bnb. Four weeks or longer is the only way I use Airbnb instead of hotels

Hotels. For sure

There needs to be a place for services like airbnb but with significant regulation!

Hotels if the trip is under a week for most places. It is nice to cook your own food. I avoid a lot of bad ingredients by cooking myself.

So true regarding cleaning fees!

An additional perspective is that Airbnbs are perfect for families. This might not be in the forefront of your minds, but if you have a kid it is pretty important. Airbnb gives you extra space to put them to sleep and then a living room to sit and enjoy your evening. Also a kitchen to cook simple meals. Btw I never had to wash linens and clean an Airbnb, you just leave it at a reasonably used condition. In the USA you have to wash the bedsheets?

there's an illegal airbnb right in front of my appartment. i can see my building in the pictures of the place on the website. it was a lower class neighborhood and then promoters and landlords started buying out and refurbishing for renting out 'condo-style appartments' and illegal airbnbs. i will be lucky if i don't get evicted for bullshit reasons in the next few years....

AirBnBs are also much harder to hold to the ADA. I have a friend that has a service dog and they had so much trouble getting an AirBnB that would allow it, which is illegal in the US, but it's easier for a hotel to get in trouble for that than an AirBnB.

So I think hotels are not only better and easier to use but are still cheaper when it comes down to it. I have plenty of comparisons between airbnb and hotels, including my experiences with vrbo. I think we've only had about 1 good experience with short term rentals ever in all the years we've tried using them. Of course, it's only gotten worse.

Airbnb is nice when you stay with a local. They became a negative nuance once entire properties were purchased for airbnb exclusively. We have a airbnb next door in a property with 4 attached condos. The air bnb has 4 bedrooms and constantly hosts huge parties which take up all the parking, create trash blowing in the wind, noise at all hours and random drunk strangers wandering the streets. It's become the party house only for strangers to abuse.

If you try to save money cooking then is better Airbnb

My son is on the autism spectrum and vacay at airbnbs are great because there are no crowds. Is there an ethical way to use airbnb or does anyone have reasonable alternatives?

It’s seldom that AirBnB is cheaper than hotels here in Canada post pandemic. I’m surprised they haven’t folded. The absolute greed I see in accommodation prices makes it sickening to plan a trip.

Hotels. Also, the longe ryoy stay at a hotel, the bigger the chances you get a great price. There are many websites for bookings that have great deals and you can find pretty cool deals. 11 nights in Singapore at a good well placed hotel you can get for under 2k, versus Cartagena, that is being gentrified, 4 nights, 800dls... Of course everything else in Cartagena is a steal, versus Singapore but still unjustified, specially if its at a old hotel in the old city, you're paying for the brand.. And you don't even spend much time there. So far, I have nothing to gain from an Airbnb, I guess that's a good option for travelling in groups but that's not my case. I need clean towels, good food, a good night sleep without worrying about cleaning, washing, nor worrying about house stuff when travelling, including intruders. You get back exhausted, you need to throw yourself in that clean fresh bed, and have someone call you up to wake you if necessary, and be near subway /train / bus stations and in a centric location, so that you can get an Uber or Grab or whatever, to get you

I’m from Texas. My husband and I took a trip to New Orleans, and got our first air B&b. To our surprise it was in a HORRIBLE neighborhood. To be honest, New Orleans was just overall rundown and definitely not as fun as it once was!! Next trip is somewhere nicer and in a hotel. No offense if you are from New Orleans…

I’ve never had to strip beds or change linens. Of course there is a cleaning fee for hotels, it’s built into the price

MOTEL deserve justice.

I say if your not staying for a long time airbnb is better

Surely Airbnb does the opposite of gentrification as people aren’t living in them anymore.

Is that style of voice real or fake?

I never even realized how the Airbnb industry causes gentrification… wow eye opening 😮

being younger than 21, I've only booked an airbnb myself. but i prefer hotels.

Isn’t like 75% of Hawaii just air bnbs/ vacation homes now? Yeah, they’re a problem :/

She said Americans have been ruining Mexico City😂😂😂😂 little lady, you have that reversed

I prefer Airbnb over hotels any time. There's so much I really hate about hotels: overheated rooms, recycled air, the inability to open windows to get fresh air, and simply the impersonal feel of transience. I travel in Europe, the Caribbean and South East Asia, usually spending at least two weeks in one place, and often 4 weeks at a time, and an apartment feels so much more comfortable and spacious than a hotel room.

ummm its about the same price now and days.

Why is this woman in the purple dress being interviewed? What terrible advice. Hotels are designed to try to get you to spend money in the hotel. Outside of the convenience of having housekeeping at your disposal in a hotel if you choose to engage it, a rented apartment during that time (which is probably similar in cost depending on our situation) includes a kitchen and usually laundry. I actually cook in my kitchen and like being able to prepare my own food sometimes on vacation and also I love the amount of room I have in an air bnb and don't worry about housekeeping walking in on me. That's my take on it.

Airbnbs are definitely majorly over rated.

Yes, you are ruining mexico city

Of course cost is not the only consideration an Airbnb also let’s you have more unplanned family time by meeting up in the kitchen and living room etc.