I was going to do a mouse pad with a cool graphic on it, but turns out printing on pads changes the surface. Obviously aim is the priority, so I said we should just go with a black pad for now. Can't tell much just by the look of it, I know, kind of going by what I say ... but maybe we can get a few sent out to reviewers so they can try to explain it in their words. And with all our opinions combined, maybe it'll make sense! Either way, I love this pad.

@Antokn

2 жыл бұрын

Are you gonna release a wireless mz1?

@felicosantosa8400

2 жыл бұрын

this is an unrelated question but does my motherboard bios version affect the mz1's performance because my mz1 stopped randomly disconnecting after I updated my bios.

@cellarena

2 жыл бұрын

Grats! Of course i'm gonna haveto try this pad with the MZ1!! Even though i just got a skypad ;D

@RocketJumpNinja

2 жыл бұрын

Felico, are you using AMD?

@felicosantosa8400

2 жыл бұрын

@@RocketJumpNinja yes. Is that a common issue?

I thought it was going to be named Zy's Arena, because the mousepad seems like an arena for the mouse to move around.

@RocketJumpNinja

2 жыл бұрын

Clever, I like it.

@7sukuyomi

2 жыл бұрын

Zy's Rail wouldve been a more fitting name for the mousepad imo. Since the train isn't the rail, rather, it rides on the rail. But what would the name be for the mouse?

@JonLaRue

2 жыл бұрын

@@7sukuyomi rail is reference to quake. To me its more a reference to male genitals.

@iitsMikeB

2 жыл бұрын

@@7sukuyomi The word rail is most likely a reference to the rail gun from quake. Not a metaphor regarding a train.

@lukaneusprime

2 жыл бұрын

Zy's Arena would fit to future keyboard as well :-)

What I've found through my experimentation with different mice and mousepads I also came to the conclusion that the idea combination is a light mouse and control mousepad. I agree that when it comes to the weight of the mouse the laws of physics explain why having a lighter mouse is beneficial, but when it comes to the mousepad it's more complicated. I tried to switch to ftip grip and speed pads with light mice and there was no avenue for me to control the mouse, it just slid everywhere out of control, but when I started using a more control oriented pad I started regaining control over large flicks, where before I would have a large amount of wiggle in my crosshair when in tense moments in game (something that didn't happen in aim trainers). Even while using the control pad I had some wiggle, so I tried using slightly heavier mice (around 70g instead of 60g) and this also helped which made me come up with this idea. Friction is defined by F=uN, where F is the amount of friction force, u is the coefficient of friction (mouse feet on mousepad) and N is the normal force acting on the object that is trying to move (the force that counteracts the weight of the mouse and any other force pushing down on it). As the force from gravity on the mass of the mouse increased, friction smoothed out some of the excess movement that was generated in high pressure situations, and made it easier for me to hit my target without having to wait for these excess movements to dissipate. Furthermore, I saw in a RRK video that almost all csgo pros (I play csgo as my main game) have some amount of palm on their mouse ranging from full claw to full palm, and that fingertip players where very rare. The only example that comes to mind when thinking about cs pros that have a true fingertip grip is Scream. After seeing this I tried out a claw grip on my gpro superlight and zowie gsr (boring 'meta' csgo gear picks) and I found that I could swipe large movements easily due to the light weight of the mouse saving my arm and shoulder, but when I needed to make fine adjustments I could increase the amount of friction between the mouse and pad through the part of my palm that was in contact with the top of the mouse, effectively allowing me to have a super light mouse for large 180 flicks but have the extra control when I needed it through the ability to add more normal force to the friction equation, helping stop any excess aim movements in tense spots that would normally cause me to miss a few kills in an average match. My aim in trainers was best with light mouse, medium speed pad, and ftip grip, but everything changes when the pressure is on like you said in the video. Trying to figure all of this out over about a year has been tough, but your videos have been a massive help to me in my hunt to become the best player I can be. I just wanted to tell a little story with some thoughts I've had because this video really lined up with what I have been noticing in my aim journey, and I thought other people could benefit from the time I've put into trying to have the best aim possible. Nice videos!

@RocketJumpNinja

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the story/thoughts! Glad my vids are helping too. Yeah so part of the stuff I haven't fully researched with this is what is needed in different games, and is it actually different, or can we go for a universal rule on this? Looks like you've found there are differences. I'm going to test out a heap of stuff at some point and I'll have to learn to play a different game or two so I can actually figure it out. But, every bit helps, so just gotta keep on trying stuff and hopefully we'll get an answer. Thanks!

@prismguitar8936

2 жыл бұрын

@@RocketJumpNinja No problem, and I know which mousepad I'm buying next!

@Gaptiste

2 жыл бұрын

@@RocketJumpNinja I use control for valorant/cs but when it comes to call of duty, apex legends, battlefield, Overwatch, and Quake I need I use a faster pad like the Aqua Control + or the Razer Strider, only using the strider for Apex. I find the reason for this is because it's easier to make micro adjustments on pads with less friction so my tracking is much better and this is key in games where you need to shoot fast strafing, jumping, flying, targets all over the place. But click timing suffers on these pads. For example the fast pad gives me really good LG accuracy in Quake but the RG accuracy suffers and vise versa for control Pads. I'm really excited to try out this pad and can't wait for it to get here as it seems it will give me the perfect balance I need that I have never been able to find. Excellent Trackng and Click timing without either suffering by the speed of the pad i'm using.

@prismguitar8936

2 жыл бұрын

@@RocketJumpNinja Also if you wanted to ask any other questions about my situation and mouse/aim journey I would be more than happy to help. All this aim performance and how to get the most out of yourself is super interesting to me, because I have seen gains from implementing things discussed in this community.

@fallen3424

2 жыл бұрын

I do think that controlpads are generally easier to play with, but when you have very good control over your mouse, and played with a faster pad for some time, there's something to it that makes it just a little better.

Would you say it's overall faster or slower than the gp4? Especially when starting your movements

thanks for the video, i thought about this topic a lot and this gives me a new path to explore on

I've been using the Zowie GSR pad for years. Used many mice during it. I've used the EC2 for most of it. I don't know if it was just because I was playing more but I've always felt I aim the best with this combo. That said I used the FK2 and found I still aimed very well even with larger hand size (19.5x10). For now though I'm still using the Zowie GSR. Found It a good material for control and been using the G Pro superlight. Never felt right with the regular GPRO but I dunno I feel comfortable with the superlight. Although I had to put the grippy tape they provided with it to get a good grip with it. I've just felt control pads are good for me. Even with a low sens and mouse that's considered heavy these days (90g) I've still managed to flick from one side to another and hit shots just fine so even with a heavier mouse or a lighter mouse I go for a control pad.

My favorite combo right now is definitely the MZ1 and the Artisan Hien, I aim the best with the MZ1 because i have medium-sized hands and i like to fingertip grip, so it forms to my hands extremely well. The Artisan Hien gives good control with the texture as well as good speed for smooth tracking and flicks.

@128px

2 жыл бұрын

@@this_katharsis2227 hard disagree I've tried every mousepad you could imagine, (AC+, skypad, shidenkai, artisan zero, gsr-se, glorious 3xl, you name it, I've tried it) it may be expensive but it's the mousepad I've aimed the best with

@octs609

2 жыл бұрын

@@128px I swear everyone who says the hien is overrated has never tried one.

Mz1 with the GSR has been a dream. The light weight of the mz1 allows me to be mobile while the gsr allows me to obtain the control of the mouse. Definitely ordering 2 of the Zys dmg pads.

@RocketJumpNinja

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, thanks for the support!

I found once I got used to a hardpad, I couldnt go back to cloth. For me cloth is more difficult to make intricate mouse movements compared to hardpads where I have more feel for what im doing with my aim at a given moment. As always, great content.

@bm2618

2 жыл бұрын

Do you use ceramic mouse feet with your hard mouse pad?

@klkgamingcoach1610

2 жыл бұрын

@@bm2618 I did works nicely with it

@kovaaksenjoyer13

11 ай бұрын

“Once I realized the weakness of my cloth , I was disgusted by it , I craved the strength and certainty of hard pads”

literally been looking at mouse pads for the past 2 days and now this comes up, its like god is looking and feeding me this juicer of a content

Zy keyboard when? 👀 congrats on the release Zy!

@Definitely_Melnyx

2 жыл бұрын

Coming from the custom scene I don’t think he can make a unique one. Probably at best a rebranding, but im sure that this would be far harder to produce in a unique way.

@ol1mar

2 жыл бұрын

@@Definitely_Melnyx Looking at the higround boards I have exactly the same opinion, the gaming keyboard scene is already oversaturated with the same boards and custom keyboards occupy the perfect niche. There's just no reason to try and break into the keyboard market

@anuragvardhan1556

2 жыл бұрын

@@Definitely_Melnyx I honestly think that we are at *peak* keyboard. And, there is't much *unique* we can do. Like, if you look at the Steelseries Apex pro TKL. That keyboard has pre tty much everything done right. Y'know, dampening foam here, shrinking to 75% there, and Voilà! You just created the best keyboard on planet earth! No much uniqueness there. :D

@brzt4256

2 жыл бұрын

@@anuragvardhan1556 I actually think at least 60-40% or split keyboards would be best, for more mouse freedom and less room between both hands. Preferably ortholinear for more natural finger movements as well.

@anuragvardhan1556

2 жыл бұрын

@@brzt4256 Yeah, if you only play competitive games like fortnite, cods or games like that, sure a 65% (cuz I can't live without a delete key and arrows) would be great, but when you also have dedicated F-keys. Story games also become easier to play. That's why I said that :D

I'm actually using the MZ1 white rail as my main now. Still not sure if is "the best" I can aim with but definitely my top 3. Still getting used to weight and shape, my grip is like a relaxed claw, would say is fingertip but I do support the back of the mice in my mid palm, pretty good and consistent. Found out the Gamesense Rush is a great combo for this mice and my play style. Oredered this Zy Damage to give it a shot. Thanks for the products Zy

My combo is a speed pad with a light-ish mouse. I've always been using a crazy high sensitivity, it was just a freak thing I've learned as a kid and never dropped. I've reduced my sens multiple times over the years but it's still well over average. Because of this I rely on fine movements more than others, and any resistance coming from the mousepad affects my aim more than it would affect a low-sens user as I have less time and space to compensate for it during a flick. My hands are a little bit jittery so the speed pad + high sens combo makes my tracking notoriously unreliable but on a good day my flicks can look like aimbot. Also I seem to have a thing for discontinued products so I use the SteelSeries 9HD mousepad with the Logitech G302.

This sounds pretty cool! Ill have to try it at some point

I use the MZ1 Zy's Rail with the Zowie G-SR. Gives me a good bit of control in CSGO. It seems like the GPZ1 could also work for me. Im happy, that you found a good Partner in Xtrfy, looking forward to your new innovative (mouse shape wise) products. We've all seen enough FK and EC clones.

I'm currently using Cooler Master's MP510. I remember you've used MP510 for all mouse reviews for consistency, so how does your pad compare to it?

Would absolutely love a look on the new g303 "shroud edition" when it comes out, perhaps put it up against the superlight? Been watching your vids since the original g303 and you got me hooked, but for some odd reason went with the g502 instead back then. Thanks for all the help throughout the years!

I bought an Artisan Kou on a whim, 3rd party and have been loving it. Holding no bias to Artisan (over)hype, I paired it with an UL2, a mouse I've despised in the past. And lately the combo has been treating me well on both the UL2 and the OG GPro wireless. It's hard to explain, the X axis is significantly slower, the slowest control pad I've had in a while, while the Y axis is rather fast, making vert tracking a dream, alongside a lighter mouse it's been a blast!

Out of context but I can’t believe I’ve been watching this channel for 5 years. Thank you for making these videos

Is this pad affected by humidity? Is it coming in the same tight packaging other Xtrfy pads come in? I hope not because those pads never straightened for me.

@helloyu6270

2 жыл бұрын

He appears to show the packaging at 2:35, hope this helps answer your question!

@hankstorm3135

2 жыл бұрын

put the pad a few weeks under a floor rug. if you have any. or under the couch big main pillow. hope it helps ;)

I have not tested many mice with different surfaces, but what I can tell you is that the coefficient of static friction is higher than the coefficient of kinetic friction. In other words, friction is much higher when you start moving your mouse. That is, when compared to the friction of maintaining that movement. Maybe that pad that you liked captures this effect the best.

great video! helped me make my decision finally

I’m thinking a fast mousepad would work best for me. My range of motion feels inhibited on slower mousepads and makes it harder to do micro adjustments when needed and I feel like I need to use more force to move the mouse.

@pocketsage25

Жыл бұрын

can i get an update? cuz its the same for me

It probably also comes down to games. I personally use a heavy mouse (Zowie ec1), and a razer gigantus elite with a lot of use. It works well for me in games like valorant, because i feel like i have so much control over my aim.

Im also using a hybrid mouse pad after many mouse pad over the years. Great video as always.

The mouse you made is my main one right now, it's just amazing under every single aspect... It's only missing some glass or ceramic skates :D

I currently use a heavy mouse on a control pad (I got both without knowing about this kind of stuff yet) and it’s horrendous. Getting the Kone Pro Air and Odin Zero Gravity Pad soon. I’m excited to see the change when going to a light mouse and speed/control pad combo!

Personally I use Zy's Rail with the G440, so a light mouse with a speed pad. I definitely prefer it to the soft pad I used to use. Aiming feels very responsive thanks to the low friction and low inertia, which helps with precision and fast movements. Playing with a higher friction pad means constantly having to overcome that resistance, so I don't think it gives you more control. If you feel that you're lacking control, I'd advocate lowering your sensitivity and staying with a smoother pad. While I'd be interested to try the GPZ1, I think I'll probably still prefer a hard pad. The claim that it functions as a control pad for small movements but a speed pad for quick ones is intriguing, but with no explanation as to how that's possible I think I'll wait to see what other people think. Love my Zy's Rail, love the channel and look forwards to more!

@laeioun

2 жыл бұрын

try LGG's mercury

Would be cool to see deskmat/xl version, can't really go back to smaller pads

I have to say i really enjoy this mousepad! gj

my favorite combination currently is the gproX with a g640, I think it offers a nice amount of control and it makes the mouse seem easier to aim with (it feels impossible to aim with a hien since the mouse being so light on a mousepad that’s so fast my micro adjustments aren’t on point). got my hands on the mz1, loving the shape and I land my best shots with it but the cable makes me inconsistent since it gets it the way (either I pull on the bungee too hard or I give myself more cable to work with and land on the cable) this is a problem I’ve had with every wired mouse, the day a wireless

@Night-ys1ju

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree about you about the Hien. I'm using a Glorious 3XL desk sized mouse pad, but I ordered an Artisan Hien Soft. I play on 39ish cm/360 with the GPX and the Hien made my aim all jittery and it didn't feel good. It was like sliding on ice, so I switched back to my desk sized mouse pad.

That's what many players don't consider or just ignore: personal progress is very dependent how good your opponent is. Easier just to blame your own gear or the weather...

4:12 assuming the pad is brand new, how is it already fraying? The stitching on the pad doesn't look premium at all. Coming from an Artisan, there is no way I'm gonna waste any money on that kind of quality.

@FalseF4CZ

2 жыл бұрын

Because Artisan pads are all speed pads. Even the Zero, which is their “control” pad is too fast for most. There is yet a pad that is Artisan quality but is a control pad. I hated my Zero so much I swapped to the GSR. Once LGG pads are out, I’ll probably swap over to their pads since the stitching and rubber back is similar to Artisan.

@admixues6739

2 жыл бұрын

@@FalseF4CZ xten control? It's slower than the zero

@p0zzz

2 жыл бұрын

Why is stiching important for performace?

nice video zy, i have a question, what kind of mouse feet then? because i see that the ones that are sold like the hyperglide and the tiger ice are very fast, doesn't that make the movements more "speed"?

Just bought it, gonna give it a go with my main mouse and your MZ1. Recently modded it with a slimcord, makes noticeable difference for me since I'm not quite on the wireless is better train yet, so a slimcord is the next best thing. Right now I am using the Hayate OTSU Mid and play the best on it, we'll see how your pad compares.

@afaegfaegaeg9551

2 жыл бұрын

and the answer is?

I have tried a lot of pads and mice. The pad that I have always come back to is the Artisan Hien. I mainly play apex and I guess it's similar to quake and that it has a lot of movement. But it then is also very tracking heavy with the weapons, so it's a good mix to test out pads. The Hien seems to be a fairly fast pad but retain control when needed. I have also used faster and slower pads than this and different surfaces. I've used 15-20 mice over the last 18 months I have to say that the gpx superlight is currently the mouse that I try and beat out. Honourable mentions to ultralight 2 capetown (main for a long period) and I have a starlight 12 (scroll wheel feels a little janky in mine) orochi v2 as I kinda liked the sensor slightly forward, Zy's Rail is in my top 3 mice and when it becomes wireless it will contend for top spot. I also really like the NP-01 but wish it was lighter. I do believe that lighter is better but I also think that the shape needs to work. I don't think the gpx superlight is my favourite shape but the overall package and performance is great. I'm really hoping the phantom starlights address the couple of small issues I had with the original starlight 12 that I have. I think I also prefer smaller mouse skates to larger ones and I have swapped out the stock size gpx to the original g pro wireless style feet. I use tiger arc v1 on the hien pad but if I'm trying out slower pads, like the new Zero that I'm currently using, I will fit tiger ice feet. I think mouse feet are slightly overlooked by some people as they can definitely make a difference. I will definitely be giving your pad a try and looking forward to seeing how it performs within my ranks. Question on another note. Have you come across many other Aussies that dive into performance of all these things like you do? I haven't come across many other Aussies that really dive into things like I have and that can generally relate to what a lot of reviewers say, as I have tried lots of variables. I do it as I enjoy the journey of what works the best and testing things. Maybe I'm just a deranged enthusiast 🤣🤣🤣

I think overall sensitivity or edpi is important. As a CS player with a super low edpi (800dpi x 0.63 in game sens) I prefer light mouse with fast pad, as control isn't too big of an issue. Your sensitivity seems recently high, like the hands movements you make are quite small to make bigger in-game movements, so perhaps that's why you prefer the control pad?

@lookaquarter

Жыл бұрын

I play on a similar eDPI (800dpi x 0.55 ingame) and loved Zy's Rail (It's still my main mouse) when I found it. I've used soft control pads for the longest time until I finally started trying hybrid and speed pads and it's been a game changer. I dont really find much issue stopping on heads, but with the ultra low sensitivity, the low friction of the pad and lightness of the mouse makes it so much easier to aim with speed while maintaining accuracy.

I got your mousepad a few days ago, and I'm struggling a lot, not gonna lie. I found it really hard to do micro adjustments, as the stopping power is really high. I even had to switch from claw to fingertip to compensate for that. It feels like If I'm not 100% accurate on my flicks, I'm going to miss the target, my tracking suffers too. Probably gotta give it more time, but the pad does make my aim very steady though.

Very excited. 👍

I use Razer Goliathus Speed (the old one with the rain drops) because it looks cool and it didn't stank as much. To me it feels very good, although i don't have much experience with mousepads. People say the Artisan Hien is the best mousepad on the market, maybe you could test it?

I went with Logitech G PRO X SL and Zowie G-SR, absolutely love this combo.

@whoisthatthingwhat

2 жыл бұрын

surely you dont go with an extremely good mouse and an absolutely bogged mousepad

The artisan zero soft with the starlight 12 medium is just soooo nice, hayate otsu is also nice.

I use Hati s with an artisan hien, I guess I am more into speed than control. For me most important is low initial friction and high stopping power, for easier flicks.

Rocking the Endgame MPC1200 with the Origin One X/Aerox 3 Wireless/MZ1, love this deskmat with any mouse really.

I am very happy with a mousepad that does not have too much friction when I have to make flicks, but that helps me to stop when necessary, moreover it must allow me to make micro adjustments

When do you think we will be getting the wireless MZ1? 3 months? Half year? Year? I really love the MZ1 but wireless would be even better!

Hati S Wireless & Zowie GTF-X. Don't think I'll ever switch away from the GTF-X, the texture, glide and control just seem perfect for me.

@success9271

2 жыл бұрын

Phenomenal hybrid pad, especially for CS-and reasonably priced to boot. Not many may know this, but that pad was actually developed in collaboration with a legendary CS 1.6 player named "SpawN" well over a decade ago. We're talking circa 2009 here, it's THAT old. The fact that it's still being sold after all this time speaks to just how good this pad is. I thought I'd share what SpawN had to say about it on the original box art: "As everybody knows, I don't play with cloth mouse pads since cloth does not give me the performance I need - SPEED. By putting a coating on it, the cloth pad is no longer durable and is soon discarded and thrown away. But now with the new ZOWIE GEAR TF Series, I no longer have that problem. I get the Feel (cloth), and most importantly, Performance (Speed!) That is why I named it TF (Two Faces). I am so proud to be associated with this amazing new pad. See for yourself the SpawN Pad TF Series. Welcome to my World!"

I like low weight mice with low friction pads. Tried plastic pads which were nice but they are uncomfortable and you feel every grain of dust/etc. on it so I'm back on cloth. Just haven't figured out which gives the smoothest and fastest feeling. I can imagine that the rubber/foam base in the pad determines how much the mouse sinks in which has an effect on the felt friction and also the mouse feet shape. They also should have an impact on the felt friction, so for me bigger mouse feet should feel smoother and more consistant. PS: Have you tried the game Warfork? Would love to see you play it :3

this guy was probably the most qualified person to test these mousepads, thanks man

I love the gamesense radar “control pad with low initial friction but high on dynamic friction” with a light mouse. Tough the pad is a bit wired and behaves completely different with different mouse feet brands.

@gggabbb

2 жыл бұрын

what mouse feet would you say are the best on the radar? I’m considering picking one up. I’m using corepadz right now.

When is your Zy's pen mouse coming (2022)? I would like to test the pad with the Zy's pen mouse :)

Did you ever try one of those desk mats that come with keyboard group buys? And will this come in a huge size too?

just ordered your mouse/mousepad/bungee bundle. They better be GOOD!

@RocketJumpNinja

2 жыл бұрын

I don't have a bungee... but hope you like the mouse and pad!

I prefer a light mouse with a slow pad. Currently, I am running G Pro Superlight with Xtrfy GP4, which gives me the control in Valorant and the speed in single-player games, where I move the mouse much more often. Your pad reminds me of the GP4, maybe even more on the control side, which I love. But my question is, will you try to make them in more sizes? I really love desk mouse pads like Cooler Master MP510 XL - 900 × 400. Thank you for your response.

@iitsMikeB

2 жыл бұрын

I'm in a very similar boat. I use the G pro X superlight with the Xraypad Aqua Control+ Strata edition (Although I'm going to change to the black fly edition), and having that extra control is just something else :D

@nex3877

2 жыл бұрын

Same exact boat. Nearly been on the GP4 for a year now and have tried to swap off of it multiple times but there is something about this pad my brain really likes. Would really like a comparison between the GPZ1 and the GP4. Also deskmat would be nice but can the default size be a 500x500 square, that size is goated.

@EaZynite

2 жыл бұрын

​@@nex3877 Yes, I must agree with you. But I must say that I have two issues with GP4. First, the minor one is, that it's too small :D I constantly move it around. I have one position when I work on code and the second when I game :D. The second issue is the packing. I have had this pad for a year and a half and the pad is still not completely flat even when I did put weights on the pad. The pad is too curled up in the packaging. ​ @Rocket Jump Ninja I hope you can look into it.

@klajo22

2 жыл бұрын

im on gpx superlight and xtrfy gp4, best combo that i had so far

i been testing mice/mousepads for a long time and i am the most consistent with a heavy mouse on a hybrid surface - i particularly like the artisan zero mid, odin infinity, and the g640/gsrse(the last 2 provide a lot of speed while having more friction than my zero and odin pad, but are much more control based) i play 36cm in valorant, and 28cm in apex, ow, and cod btw, currently on a g703 and g640

I'll try this pad, although I have been performing my personal best with the SkyPad 2.0 XL in Apex Legends. I have cycled between 5 different pads and a number or mice and have found the Razer Orochi V2 with a finger/claw grip to work incredible for me, especially when it comes to tracking. It's interesting to see what works for some and not for others.

@juanrd6921

Жыл бұрын

do u use high sens?

@brianclauzel4973

Жыл бұрын

@@juanrd6921 I switch it around a lot, but I cycle between 1.5 and 1.8 sens in game @800dpi

does it glide well on your sleeve and skin? i think thats a very overlooked part of mouspads

I used the qck+ for as long as I remember, constantly switching mouse throughout the years, but I think I peaked with the g pro wireless +qck+ when I got into ow contenders. But the problem with the qck+ is that it degrades fast and builds a lot of dust, also the sides are not braided. It feels really smooth and ideal when first using a new one though

@nayuki2020

2 жыл бұрын

humidity kills that thing so fast. I switched to some coolermaster ones when Zy was listing those as his choice on his website.

The size is crazy, would be nice if there was smaller version also.

Currently the best combo I can come up with for me is the default QCK with he deathadder mini. The mini works because my aim style befits a super glidey mouse, and the QCK gives me that perfect slip to grip ratio with the harder ptfe feet on the mini.

@pseudzy

2 жыл бұрын

Is the default qck the cloth model or the fast one? I’m thinking about nabbing one

What is your sensitivity? Accel? And do you use stock mouse glides? I'm using about the same settings and playstyle as ToxjQ and Rapha when comes to sensitivity and gripstyle. Or somewhere in between. So pretty high sense. And I can't play with new mousefeet and a clean mousepad. It takes months before I stop overshooting due to a too slippery surface on my steelseries QcK+. I've used the G203 so far but thinking of trying out the razer viper mini. My friend bought it and says its too slippery on all his mousepads. Does it exist a mousepad that you can play on without relying on it only once its dirty even when playing with high sense?

I'm running Ninjutso Origin One X with CM MP510 and i'm loving it. (still waiting on OOX review 😉)

Damn zy. I have been searching for reddit for this exact question. Now i have a speed pad and an 80g mouse

Got my pad in the mail a few days ago so let me warn you guys...Its a slow ass mud pad.

Got my pad today, felt really good in valorant with my gpx that has corepads. Only negatives are the tag on the base, gonna remove it and the packaging. Its packed super tight so its taking a while to get it 100% flat

@RocketJumpNinja

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I cut the tag off. Also is it flat yet? All mine have gone flat now.

@SatyamKumar-li5yt

2 жыл бұрын

@@RocketJumpNinja Serious question, is this better than the MP510? In what way do you love it more? debating whether to import the MP510, Aquapad control+, or this. I use a MP511 rn and it doesn't feel like the MP510's surface. The control+ is well regarded, but I'm really into trying 'your' best mousepad here.

So I really like the shape of NP-01 but it is a bit heavy by today's standard, so I got a plastic pad to reduce the force needed to control the mouse, kinda of like reducing the weight of the mouse although it's still less ideal than just using the same mouse with less weight. I think light mouse + slow pad is the same as heavy mouse + fast pad. BTW unlike most old school CS players who used to have this myth, or "bro science", that mouse accel is bad for building muscle memory, a lot of Quake players prefer to play with mouse accel so I understand your design decision with this pad as Arena shooter requires more larger movements as opposed to Tactic shooter games like CS/Valorant.

What are the differences between this and the xtrfy gp4?

with np-01s and aqua control my aim has been 100% consistent! Which i like it!

I use a g403 lightspeed without the weight on a qck heavy. I prefer the control the qck heavy gives me over the thinner faster ones.

@dinklezucc5982

2 жыл бұрын

woahh my main for years was g703 on a qck heavy, also love gunship..wtf

@mikep1212

2 жыл бұрын

@@dinklezucc5982 Oh yeah, mine is the 703 lightspeed now sorry :D had 2 403's and 2 703's (the most recent I upgraded the switches so it has lasted longer :). Gunship are amazing!!!

XM1r w/ G-SR is my go-to. I went down the hybrid and speed pads route and when I came back to playing on a control pad, it's just been way too good for me. The G-SR really is just a versatile pad tbh

@FireTruck8000

Жыл бұрын

Same, been using xm1r + gsr for 2 years now, tried fast mouse pads and it just isnt for me. What pad r u using right now?

Viper Mini w/ an Artisan Raiden mid @ 6 in/360 fingertip grip, wrist hovering over the mousepad, and I use full finger extension to aim vertically. I aim best with light mouse, fast mousepad, and fast sens tried all combos even 30 in/360 when I started gaming, and 10 years later, found 6 inch to be best for me

No matter what I try I always come back to the np-01 with either an aqua control plus or hayate otsu. Once the mouse is at or below 80ish grams shape is king and the np-01 is the best shape I’ve ever used.

Currently I'm using a superlight with an xtrfy gp3, micro adjustments are just effortless. I tried going back to my old steelseries qck heavy, but it felt like I was dragging my mouse through mud to be completely honest.

I have used a control pad for a long time (Corsair MM350) but only recently switched to a light mouse (areox 3) and finger tip grip. I noticed massive improvement in my aim.

@FinalBoss429

2 жыл бұрын

I am a fingertip grip and use the finalmoise starlight 12. Control pad better than a speed pad you reckon?

@gunnarfjelstul9837

2 жыл бұрын

@@FinalBoss429 I prefer a control pad with ultralight mice

I’ve been loving the Mz1 alot I’m using the hien in mid, Iv been enjoying the combo :)

right now, the gamesense radar and aqua control + strata have the best low initial friction and high dynamic friction qualities. I wonder how this will compare

right now i use the Mz1 Mouse and the Razer Strider Mousepad and love it. I'll try your pad when it becomes available in my Country

will the GPZ1 be released in different sizes? Im after something in the ~320mm width range

I want a mousepad but I'm in doubt between Control or speed, I want one for fps games. My mouse is the redragon storm elite. Note: I don't have much space on the table. Which do you recommend?

I like the X-Raypad aqua control with the endgame gear xm1 or alternatively the x-raypad thor with the zowie s2 (i know they are opposite configurations but i like both)

Control pad preference cuz my idle aim stays very stable but last year ive been using the hien/mp450 codura and if u got a rly light mouse its honestly more satisfying to have speed pads even though my 1st shot accuracy goes down a bit it still feels better move the mouse with no force

i love the qck hard pan with g502 with full weights cuz it just feels awesome

does it have a coating that will dissapear and make the mousepad inconsistent?

Light mouse and control pad have in common that they both improve stopping power or reduce the jiggle on stopping

Hey zy! Can you tell xtrfy to put kailh 8.0 in the m42? Big fan!

What about x/y different ? Does it get slower in high humidity environment ?

Hey RJN! Any updates on a wireless MZ1 version so far? :)

I believe you have muscle memory for control pads. I wonder if light mouse /speed mat would be best (least friction combo) if you played on a speed pad for a considerable amount of time. If a user played on a “heavy” mouse for 40 years they probably wouldn’t like the Gpro wireless instantly. Assuming that the Gpro IS better than a heavy mouse I wonder if that could be what is happening to speed pads for you right now. Perhaps there is an undiscovered potential here? Maybe less friction is better?

Do you use high sens or low sens? Are you a arm aimer or wrist aimer?

As an Aussie I am just wondering when and where I can get it in Australia

I just bought the mpc450 mousepad and viper mini with tiger ice feet, paracord and BT.L grips. The mousepad is speed and it is so much better than my old steel series qck i was using. The viper mini is so much better than my g pro wired, I have hyperglides and used glorious cable on it and it’s still not great.

Will it be enought for moderately low sensitivity? can't tell from the video (

G Pro X Superlight + Tiger Ice Skatez + X-raypad Aqua Control Plus Rob Strafa works the best for me I've tried a ton of combos, this one is best for CPMA and faster gameplay.It is much more easier to aim in QL so it depends. I'll take speed + light mouse anyway btw

How is it compared to gsr? Btw totally agree: Light wireless mouse on control pad.

will you be having a deskmat size for your mouse pad ?

I did not know there were different kinds of mouse pads until I came across this video. I thought they were all generally the same. it's still cool though, I have the XXL white mouse pad from ATRIX.

Hi Zy, would you recommend this mousepad for high sens players (3.07 sens at 400 dpi for CSGO), im getting the MZ1 in few weeks and im currently in a dilemma over buying a control pad or sticking with my Hyperx Fury S mousepad. Im kinda confused on whats better for playing on higher sens in general.

@Gaptiste

2 жыл бұрын

i play high sense and I find it doesn't matter what pad you use with it. I think I play similar in fact, my source sense is 1.2 x 1000 dpi. It only matters for the game you're players at least from my own preference I like fast pads for quicker games and for valorant (similar to cs) I strictly use control pads.

This seems like the first real alternative to the Hayate Otsu. I use the Superlight with the Otsu, excited to try this one out

@Curisol

2 жыл бұрын

I would imagine this is a lot slower than the otsu, as the only artisan pad that's really a "control" pad is the zero and even that is still faster than most "control" cloth pads out there

@codexnecrogeddon

2 жыл бұрын

@@Curisol I disagree with your opinion on the artisan pads. Hopefully this is a cool pad, anyway.

Zy, is this pad different enough from artisan zero that I won't be feeling like I have 2 identical mousepads mouse glide-wise? I'll eventually get it as a collectors item anyway, but wanted to know if I need it faster or not :P

@FalseF4CZ

2 жыл бұрын

The Zero is not a “control” pad. Artisan doesn’t make any. All their pads are smooth and are on the faster side of the spectrum of pads.

Have you tried the LTT mouse pad? thoughts on there video on it?