I find it very frustrating that zero mention that the Z16 is a touchscreen. Nothing also about refresh rate

@yourtubisfilled7164

Жыл бұрын

Yea, very disappointing. Unsubbed.

@alejandrojmontillam3135

Жыл бұрын

Exactly 💆🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

@roseraised7235

5 ай бұрын

it's looks like he is working for Apple

A bit of an apple fanboy i see. In europe the price for a macbook pro m1 is 2700€ while the msi sells for 1700€...

Why do you put the mic at different places when you're testing the keyboard mouse sound and speaker

Have a Z16 and using Adobe, DaVinci, SketchUp with no hiccups or issues. Games, too (but only occasionally). Love this device.

@CrewElite

2 жыл бұрын

I'm considering buying this laptop

@c11p

2 жыл бұрын

@@CrewElite If you have any questions, let me know.

@themovingmachine7321

2 жыл бұрын

@@c11p hi! May i ask you that the z16 has any problem after long term used?

@CrewElite

2 жыл бұрын

@@c11p I really appreciate it!

@zaka2630

2 жыл бұрын

@@themovingmachine7321 long term? Dude, the laptop is barely out for sale a couple months ago.

I have MBP 16 pre M1 chip. The best thing about this unit is the trackpad. However when doing rendering with resolve or even just a simple iMovie conversion the fans would kick in and it would sound like a hair dryer. Maybe they fixed that with the M1 chip. Aside from soldering of parts aesthetic beauty along with trackpad. Don't see much advantage in value since the units are not upgradable or repairable by the end user.

I’m sorry, are you using different mics and using different distances to compare 2 products? How does that work?

Thank you homie. There truly is a video for everything.

Has anyone use Z16 for music production or recording? with ableton and cubase? I saw a review on notebookcheck about DPC latency is high on this laptop. Anyone experience this ?

I would like to have HDMI to do Premiere Pro work for KZread videos, but I cannot remember the last time I've been in a "meeting", especially one that needs a presentation. Finding a Laptop has been ridiculously difficult.

Decent review but it's not fair to compare apples best cpu when not using the best available for the msi. There is also an i9 version. i7 against m1 max isn't fair tho the i7 did very well beating it in a number of scenarios

@TheVikingquest

2 жыл бұрын

Same price. Thats why.

@kenduejones

2 жыл бұрын

They cost the same that's why he said it in the beginning of the video

@davereinhardt3862

2 жыл бұрын

They are not the same price though

@kenduejones

2 жыл бұрын

@@davereinhardt3862 yes they are 🤪😋

@davereinhardt3862

2 жыл бұрын

@@kenduejones then I got a great deal on the z16 with the i9 under $3000

The MSI creators laptop which is around 2k USD is i9 with 8 gig Ram. Does it make sense?

I have a Macbook Pro and would like to update to MacBook Pro Max... unfortunately 3D applications that would benefit from the upgrade are only available or optimized for Intel processors / NVidia graphics cards, resulting in a very few options... MSI Creator Z16 being one of them.

@rifkiiqbal1164

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, if only they offer intel/nvidia version. it would be nice. i think waiting for razer blade 16 is more worth than waiting for Apple silicon gen 2.

@TheDeeStain

2 жыл бұрын

yeah I'm in the same boat as software developer. There are work arounds but the last thing I want to be doing is working around for everything install or need. Awesome performance but limited in use.

@jarekjaro7325

2 жыл бұрын

3d apps and 3ds max availability only on Windows is the main reason why I'm gonna choose MSI, also I can play most of the games in free time.

I really do not like the huge MBP trackpad. I've used them several times at work and its fine, but I feel like the trackpad gets in my way. My 2015 trackpad never felt small. It does the job. But its not under my palms either.

thank you for that review Ben. You promised me this comparison so thanks a lot :) Bought my m1 max after this video.

this is an amazing video, great work!

Hey Ben, Did you have the opportunity to try the new 2022 MSI Creator Z16p ? Which has a better and touchscreen and numpad. thanks

@BenGKaiser

2 жыл бұрын

I just received word that I should have one for review by April.

@FabriceNatario

2 жыл бұрын

@@BenGKaiser nice to hear :)

Thanks for another awesome video. Would you recommend the MSI Z16 or the Asus M16 with the RTX 3070 if price is not the biggest factor?

@MrGuardianX

2 жыл бұрын

There is no point in high end mobile GPUs.

@virgilethevoz

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrGuardianX There is for 3D rendering…

nice review

What about Asus Zephyrus M16 vs MSI Creator Z16?

Just ordered my MSI z16 with inel i9,32gb ram, 2TB SSD, Windows 11 pro and can’t wait to use it

@josez8500

2 жыл бұрын

Minecraft is gonna be lit af

finally you're using the same song for the speaker test on both laptops. 😅

I got the z16 with i9 for £1100 on prime day. Can't wait for it to arrive 😍

'I love the engraving on the bottom of the Macbook Pro'. I nearly pissed myself laughing.

Nice. Compared well, but the whole point of being a pro or not depends on the user. At the end of the day, it's the end results that would ultimately be competing (which will depend on the person using it), not the specs of this device. Sure, a better-performing machine will churn out something more quickly, but if the output/content is bad, then the performance isn't going to cover up for it. So someone with an "I want to be a pro" laptop can/might very well make the other with an "I am a pro" laptop bite dust.

M1 are overrated, I dont care about the energy efficiency, I'm always plugged in

I think these are not comparable. At the price of MBP 16, I can get a Ryzen 9 5900HX + RTX 3080 16GB Scar model. Atleast compare it with WE76 with RTX A5000 or something.

Z16 is a great laptop, but MSI Center Pro keeps asking for backup! It's super annoying! :/

Battery Life is really a very big factor. Macbook is preferred.

Lol title is already so biased.. Just reading 3 comments and already mentionning he did not talk about the touchscreen or refresh rate. I guess he did not talk about the crazy SteelSeries customization capability ?

Huawei Matebook 16 crushes both for $1000 dlls less, but they don't sell'em at the US anymore.

This guy's channel is so underrated. Literally the only channel I come to before buying a laptop.

Lenovo slim 7 trackpad was as tight and quiet as the MacBook pro

Не объективный обзор! MSI Creator Z16/Z17 имеет сенсорный экран, разблокировку по лицу, возможность установки второго SSD любого объема, возможность увеличения оперативной памяти, имеет USB A, экран 17.3 дюймов и 165Гц, имеет дополнительно дискретную видеокарту RTX. И это я ещё не говорю о ремонтопригодности и ценах на запчасти в случае поломки случайной.. По совокупности всех факторов MSI однозначный лидер!

Слушаю автора ролика и не пойму.. Говорит склоняется к MacBook потому что сборка и красиво.. Вы работать на нем собираетесь или любоваться? MSI Creator Z17 с RTX 3080TI и i9 12900H будет просто в пух рвать любой мак даже с М3 в любом тяжелом 3D и рендере. Дискретная RTX это не просто лишняя железка.. мак красивый и приятный, но если нужно для дизайна интерьера например, какой может быть mac если даже с накопителем в 1TB этого катастрофически мало? Или будете покупать кастом мака с 4TB памяти который стоит как автомобиль))?

I mean I just bought a Z16 Creator with an i9 processer, RTX4070 and 64GB RAM for the same price as a base spec MacBook Pro..

Ok now compare in Cinebench MSI Creator 17 with i9, 32 GB RAM and GTX 3080 16GB with MacBook Pro 16 M1 Max, I'm sure the MSI gonna win. The MSI Creator Z16 is not that strong

Can you give me your advice? I'm between the Z16(2300€) and the HP Envy 15(1700) and the Asus M16(2499)? I need a nice looking laptop to edit videos on?

@jonathanessien4360

2 жыл бұрын

Z16 certainly. Better performance, screen (120hz) and more

@ruslanyunusov1389

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanessien4360 what about the trackpad? Is it THAT bad? I'm really hesitant because of it, otherwise I just love it!

@c11p

2 жыл бұрын

Of those three, the Z16 should have enough to handle your needs.

@c11p

2 жыл бұрын

@@ruslanyunusov1389 I use a mouse 99% of the time, but when I've used the trackpad I've had no issues. You can always accelerate the cursor speed to accommodate for the smaller dimensions, although I didn't need to.

@ruslanyunusov1389

2 жыл бұрын

@@c11p oh OK, thanks man!

Damn that Apple webcam make you look like a CGI character!

This Z16 (A11UET-013) is too pricey for the hardware you get. The Creator 15 OLED with the RTX 3080 is around the same price and has a 4K OLED screen, 100% AdobeRGB on top of the 100% DCI-P3, and 100wh battery. The performance is about 60% more faster with CPU and GPU combined than this Z16.

32dB M1Max 56C vs 50dB Z16 81C ... Pretty much sums up Windows Laptops.

@BenGKaiser

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Mac is crushing it for efficiency, performance, battery life, and thermals.

MSI Z16 32gb and 2 tb SSD with an I9 almost $500 cheaper than the MBP. I can deal with the noise and lack of HDMI

@onezweithree

2 жыл бұрын

That's cool and all, but the MBP has definitely more going for it than just the efficiency and hdmi: - Better display - Better Speakers - Better build-quality - Better Trackpad and keyboard - Better camera - Better CPU - Faster storage - Better battery - Full power on battery and probably much more.

@kenduejones

2 жыл бұрын

@@onezweithree 🎯

@davereinhardt3862

2 жыл бұрын

@@onezweithree I can’t pin point accurate animations using a track pad so that don’t matter, use studio quality headsets so speakers don’t matter, export times are faster so storage speed not a concern…. Use to be an Apple fan boy, but I like the fact that I can add that extra 32gb of ram and change out a ssd if I need to

@auomi8762

2 жыл бұрын

@@davereinhardt3862 Also, isn't the creator z16 screen 120hz? I agree with you on your points. When video editing, i don't think i've ever relied solely on my laptops speakers. I always use speakers or headsets. I really can care less about how the speakers sound.

@davereinhardt3862

2 жыл бұрын

@@auomi8762 yes it is and the Golden Ratio as well.

you used two different mics for speaker sampling.... we get it that you're a mac fanboy but do a fair comparison if you "wanna be pro"

Quite the apple fanboy trying to be non-bias but failing. There are merits to both. I own both for that very reason.

I want to see a comparison with the 12th gen i7/i9. It's supposed to be better than the M1.. No point in this comparison anymore because it's outdated.. Is there a new video coming soon on 12th gen laptops vs mac?

@BenGKaiser

2 жыл бұрын

Coming soon! Just got word that my i9-12900H is on its way.

@precursor4263

2 жыл бұрын

@@BenGKaiser That's awesome! I'm pretty much convinced Iwant the Z16 as my new laptop with the 12th gen intel cores (i7 should be fine). I'm using it for music production and live audio shows, so it has to be stable.. Unfortunately almost none of the laptop compare channels take into account DAW benchmark tests. Is that something you would consider in the future? I always see games, photoshop, sometimes video software or even microsoft, but never audio software like Ableton or Pro Tools or any DAW. Would be very appreciated!

You forgot that macbooks use temporial dithering and PWM which cause eye strain and headaches in 60% of people so the MSI instantly wins.

I like the MSI creator but the MacBook's efficiency makes me go for the Mac since they don't have much of a price difference. The MacBook is more reliable in certain situations I work in places where there is no power but at the end of the day it's about personal preference.

@joraphpictures

2 жыл бұрын

Thinking same

@promisemasimba376

2 жыл бұрын

@YT-Watcher true but the pros of owning a mac out weigh the cons. The mac is more perfect if you are using it for work purposes most of the times and I think in terms of gaming the msi creator z16 has an upper hand.(don't get me wrong "the msi creater z16 is a perfect laptop in many aspects")

@amrokas

2 жыл бұрын

well you'll see that price difference when time for repair comes.

I bought my first Mac ever recently. The most important strength of the Mac that reviewers do not stress enough is the fact that it is a truly portable machine! Windows machines are like fish out of water as soon as you remove their life line, which is that power cord and massive brick that they rely on so much in order to push those high performance numbers. M1 Macs are the only true portable machines that will give excellent performance with or without a power cord, and last a full work day. In my book, this is the most powerful and compelling feature of the new M1 Macs, and the reason why I made the choice to buy one after being such an avid advocate against MacBooks for years.

@alberthofmann487

2 жыл бұрын

Simply untrue

@jay-by1se

2 жыл бұрын

Apple makes some great products, I was all in for decades with apple. But when they start going black and to fix them costs almost as much as a new computer I started looking at pc.

@amrokas

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, fanboy... What if we compared competitive CPUS? Like i9-12900HK which is crushing M1 in most benchmarks and workloads. "remove their life line" are you seriously comparing M1 integrated GPU to High end laptom gpu?

dislike for clickbaiting reaview.

Ah the 2 most over rated laptop on the whole planet😀

@beyondbased

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure you meant highest rated? At least objectively...every review from every corner of the planet for the MacBooks have been positive.

Macbook fanboy

@yennefer440

Жыл бұрын

🧂

are you compare the low quality MSI vs high MACBOOK? you dont know the most awesome quality over MSI laptops. macbook is for posers not for PRO.

A fairer comparison would be between the Apple MacBook Pro and the MSI CreatorPro Z16P B12UMST. 📀